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09-29-2016, 03:19 PM
Did Trump’s company buy John Gotti mobster associate Robert LiButti nine luxury cars. Is this a made up story or it is real?

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09-29-2016, 03:29 PM
"The daughter of a reputed New Jersey mob figure says her late father had a longtime relationship with Donald Trump that included gambling millions of dollars at one of his casinos, flying on his helicopter and partying aboard his private yacht.

In 1991, Trump first faced questions about his dealings with Robert LiButti, a plump, balding and nationally famous horse breeder with an explosive temper who would later be banned from New Jersey casinos for his ties to Mafia boss John Gotti. At the time, New Jersey state regulators had launched an investigation into allegations by nine employees of one of Trump’s Atlantic City casinos, the Trump Plaza, that the hotel had repeatedly removed African-Americans and women from craps tables after LiButti, one of the highest-rolling gamblers in the city’s history, loudly complained about their presence when he was playing."

The probe resulted in a $200,000 fine against the Trump Plaza by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission for violating state anti-discrimination laws. Investigators found that LiButti had, on multiple occasions, berated blacks and women using what one state official described as the “The probe resulted in a $200,000 fine against the Trump Plaza by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission for violating state anti-discrimination laws. Investigators found that LiButti had, on multiple occasions, berated blacks and women using what one state official described as the “vilest” language — including racist slurs and references to women in obscene terms — and that the Trump Plaza, in order not to lose his substantial business, sought to accommodate him by keeping the employees away from his betting tables, according to commission documents recently obtained by Yahoo News under the New Jersey Open Public Records Act.

Trump challenged over ties to mob-linked gambler with ugly past [Video] (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-challenged-over-ties-to-mob-linked-gambler-100050602.html)

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:31 PM
The Truth About Trump and the Mob (http://www.newsweek.com/truth-about-trump-mob-454053)

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:50 PM
Is this made up by Hillary or is it fact , I am not sure this is real , is it on a fact check site ?

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:55 PM
"The daughter of a reputed New Jersey mob figure says her late father had a longtime relationship with Donald Trump that included gambling millions of dollars at one of his casinos, flying on his helicopter and partying aboard his private yacht.

In 1991, Trump first faced questions about his dealings with Robert LiButti, a plump, balding and nationally famous horse breeder with an explosive temper who would later be banned from New Jersey casinos for his ties to Mafia boss John Gotti. At the time, New Jersey state regulators had launched an investigation into allegations by nine employees of one of Trump’s Atlantic City casinos, the Trump Plaza, that the hotel had repeatedly removed African-Americans and women from craps tables after LiButti, one of the highest-rolling gamblers in the city’s history, loudly complained about their presence when he was playing."

The probe resulted in a $200,000 fine against the Trump Plaza by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission for violating state anti-discrimination laws. Investigators found that LiButti had, on multiple occasions, berated blacks and women using what one state official described as the “The probe resulted in a $200,000 fine against the Trump Plaza by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission for violating state anti-discrimination laws. Investigators found that LiButti had, on multiple occasions, berated blacks and women using what one state official described as the “vilest” language — including racist slurs and references to women in obscene terms — and that the Trump Plaza, in order not to lose his substantial business, sought to accommodate him by keeping the employees away from his betting tables, according to commission documents recently obtained by Yahoo News under the New Jersey Open Public Records Act.

Trump challenged over ties to mob-linked gambler with ugly past [Video] (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-challenged-over-ties-to-mob-linked-gambler-100050602.html)

That is really some stretch and reach --- and so just how does it reflect on Trump directly . Do you actually believe that he was present and making such accommodations . Just how simple minded are you ?
Oh I guess I just answered my own question . So go ahead a vote for that lying , cheating , fraud , old dried up criminal . Your girl Hillary .

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:58 PM
I think this is not true , we would have herd about it already

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:11 PM
Trump hired Monica Lewinski and used his contacts to get her hired at the White House specifically so that she could seduce Bill .

It`s about time the truth came out .

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:21 PM
You folks keep defending whatever this punk does, and he IS a punk by any definition.

He can do business with terrorists, do deals with folks he does not want you to know about (Iran, Turkey, Libya, Russia), be in debt to our non allies and you just do not care.

Old saying...be careful you might get what you wish for.

He aint gonna build those steel mills, and he aint gonna repopen the coal mines.

I actuslly like some of his trade remarks....he never gives policy or anything..he never says how.he just is correct on some of the NAFTA points etc.

HOWEVER, please be aware that all the candidates agreed on trade agreements but had exacting policies for us to see.

Anyway, you can defend his character all you want..,,...believe me, he has no character.

"Trump’s mentor on issues of politics and business was Roy Cohn, a lawyer whose other clients included a passel of mobsters, among them the bosses of the Genovese and Gambino crime families.

Cohn, who served as Senator Joseph McCarthy's chief witch hunter before going into private practice, operated out of a townhouse on East 68th Street where clients Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno and Paul "Big Paul" Castellano were regular visitors.

Besides getting advice on their legal problems, as a former secretary later recalled to Wayne Barrett in his 1992 book, Trump: The Deals and the Downfall, the visits by the mob titans to their lawyer's office allowed them to talk shop without having to worry about FBI bugs.

Cohn told a reporter that Trump called him “15 to 20 times a day, asking what’s the status of this, what’s the status of that,” according to Barrett’s book.

The Truth About Trump and the Mob (http://www.newsweek.com/truth-about-trump-mob-454053)

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:26 PM
Is this made up by Hillary or is it fact , I am not sure this is real , is it on a fact check site ?

The story you ask about was written by Michael Isikoff.

If you read just a smidgen about him, you will find he is no friend of Hillary Clinton by any stretch and has a distinguished career in investigative journalism...

"Michael Isikoff (pronounced Issickoff, born 1952) is an American investigative journalist, formerly with the United States magazine Newsweek. He joined Newsweek as an investigative correspondent in June 1994, and has written extensively on the U.S. government's War on Terrorism, the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse, campaign finance and congressional ethics abuses, presidential politics and other national issues.

On July 1, 2010, Isikoff became the national investigative correspondent for NBC News,[3] a position which he resigned in April, 2014, citing the network's move in a direction that left him with "fewer opportunities" for his work.[4]

Isikoff had been prepared to break the Monica Lewinsky scandal, but several hours before going to print, the article was killed by top Newsweek executives. As a result, the story broke first on Matt Drudge's Drudge Report the following morning. His book on the subject, Uncovering Clinton: A Reporter's Story, was named Best Non-Fiction Book of 1999 by the Book of the Month Club."


Michael Isikoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Isikoff)

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:31 PM
thanks for this . I had no idea about this .Being in law enforcement ( or used to be) this will effect my vote. I have not been keeping up with the election until the debate.

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:43 PM
The story you ask about was written by Michael Isikoff.

If you read just a smidgen about him, you will find he is no friend of Hillary Clinton by any stretch and has a distinguished career in investigative journalism...

"Michael Isikoff (pronounced Issickoff, born 1952) is an American investigative journalist, formerly with the United States magazine Newsweek. He joined Newsweek as an investigative correspondent in June 1994, and has written extensively on the U.S. government's War on Terrorism, the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse, campaign finance and congressional ethics abuses, presidential politics and other national issues.

On July 1, 2010, Isikoff became the national investigative correspondent for NBC News,[3] a position which he resigned in April, 2014, citing the network's move in a direction that left him with "fewer opportunities" for his work.[4]

Isikoff had been prepared to break the Monica Lewinsky scandal, but several hours before going to print, the article was killed by top Newsweek executives. As a result, the story broke first on Matt Drudge's Drudge Report the following morning. His book on the subject, Uncovering Clinton: A Reporter's Story, was named Best Non-Fiction Book of 1999 by the Book of the Month Club."


Michael Isikoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Isikoff)

I find it interesting that Newsweek killed the story on Bill Clinton and Lewinski but had no problem publishing the mob hit piece on Trump. Journalist bias?

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:51 PM
The chartged made above about Trump and Cohn are highly false : Roy Cohn the infamous lawyer died over 30 years ago ! He was a flamboyant gay man who is rumored to have died from HIV/ AIDS .
Mc Carthy was believed to have been a closeted Gay who had a long time physical relationship with Cohn .
Also Cohn has been linked to closeted Gay Man long time FBI Head J Edgar Hoover .
Cohn traded in " much and dirt " more than his actual legal skills . Robert F Kennedy at one time was an intern working for Cohn .
Newsweek magazine went totally bankrupt and was purchased out of bankruptcy for the grand cost of $1 . It had become a 3rd class rag and lost all of ti`s major advertisers as it lost its subscribers . It exists today in name only as an internet site and generate no real revenue .

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:09 PM
The chartged made above about Trump and Cohn are highly false : Roy Cohn the infamous lawyer died over 30 years ago ! He was a flamboyant gay man who is rumored to have died from HIV/ AIDS .
Mc Carthy was believed to have been a closeted Gay who had a long time physical relationship with Cohn .
Also Cohn has been linked to closeted Gay Man long time FBI Head J Edgar Hoover .
Cohn traded in " much and dirt " more than his actual legal skills . Robert F Kennedy at one time was an intern working for Cohn .
Newsweek magazine went totally bankrupt and was purchased out of bankruptcy for the grand cost of $1 . It had become a 3rd class rag and lost all of ti`s major advertisers as it lost its subscribers . It exists today in name only as an internet site and generate no real revenue .

Mr Isikoff, who wrote this piece for Newsweek FIVE MONTHS AGO, will be so sad.

And Trump who often speaks of Roy Cohen will need to Gertrude out his eraser...

'Village Voice' Reporter Recalls Roy Cohn's Early Influence On Trump : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2016/08/04/488722392/village-voice-reporter-recalls-roy-cohns-early-influence-on-trump)

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"Donald Trump uses the law very strategically and aggressively. According to Roy Cohn, the lurking legal hit man for red-baiting Sen. Joe McCarthy, whose reign of televised intimidation in the 1950s has become synonymous with demagoguery, fear-mongering and character assassination. In the formative years of Donald Trump’s career, when he went from a rich kid working for his real estate-developing father to a top-line dealmaker in his own right, Cohn was one of the most powerful influences and helpful contacts in Trump’s life.

Read more: ‘He Brutalized For You’ - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-roy-cohn-mentor-joseph-mccarthy-213799#ixzz4LgmLd6ae)
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook king of intimidation," Roy Cohn."

Roy Cohn's influence on Donald Trump - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/roy-cohns-influence-on-donald-trump-king-of-intimidation-2015-10)

This particular article has pics of them

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"It was the fall of 1984, Trump Tower was new, and this was unusual territory for the 38-year-old real estate developer. He was three years away from his first semi-serious dalliance with presidential politics, more than 30 years before the beginning of his current campaign—but he had gotten the idea to bring this up, he said, from his attorney, his good friend and his closest adviser, Roy Cohn."

"Roy Cohn, the lurking legal hit man for red-baiting Sen. Joe McCarthy, whose reign of televised intimidation in the 1950s has become synonymous with demagoguery, fear-mongering and character assassination. In the formative years of Donald Trump’s career, when he went from a rich kid working for his real estate-developing father to a top-line dealmaker in his own right, Cohn was one of the most powerful influences and helpful contacts in Trump’s life."

Read more: ‘He Brutalized For You’ - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-roy-cohn-mentor-joseph-mccarthy-213799#ixzz4LgmLd6ae)
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:17 PM
Mr Isikoff, who wrote this piece for Newsweek FIVE MONTHS AGO, will be so sad.

And Trump who often speaks of Roy Cohen will need to Gertrude out his eraser...

'Village Voice' Reporter Recalls Roy Cohn's Early Influence On Trump : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2016/08/04/488722392/village-voice-reporter-recalls-roy-cohns-early-influence-on-trump)

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"Donald Trump uses the law very strategically and aggressively. According to Roy Cohn, the lurking legal hit man for red-baiting Sen. Joe McCarthy, whose reign of televised intimidation in the 1950s has become synonymous with demagoguery, fear-mongering and character assassination. In the formative years of Donald Trump’s career, when he went from a rich kid working for his real estate-developing father to a top-line dealmaker in his own right, Cohn was one of the most powerful influences and helpful contacts in Trump’s life.

Read more: ‘He Brutalized For You’ - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-roy-cohn-mentor-joseph-mccarthy-213799#ixzz4LgmLd6ae)
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook king of intimidation," Roy Cohn."

Roy Cohn's influence on Donald Trump - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/roy-cohns-influence-on-donald-trump-king-of-intimidation-2015-10)

This particular article has pics of them

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"It was the fall of 1984, Trump Tower was new, and this was unusual territory for the 38-year-old real estate developer. He was three years away from his first semi-serious dalliance with presidential politics, more than 30 years before the beginning of his current campaign—but he had gotten the idea to bring this up, he said, from his attorney, his good friend and his closest adviser, Roy Cohn."

"Roy Cohn, the lurking legal hit man for red-baiting Sen. Joe McCarthy, whose reign of televised intimidation in the 1950s has become synonymous with demagoguery, fear-mongering and character assassination. In the formative years of Donald Trump’s career, when he went from a rich kid working for his real estate-developing father to a top-line dealmaker in his own right, Cohn was one of the most powerful influences and helpful contacts in Trump’s life."

Read more: ‘He Brutalized For You’ - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-roy-cohn-mentor-joseph-mccarthy-213799#ixzz4LgmLd6ae)
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Tough to be able to fact check with a man who has been dead since 1986 which is when the old Jew Queen succumbed to his life of debauchery .

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:19 PM
Again Newsweek is no longer a published in print magazine . It is an online " zine " which is barely alive .

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:23 PM
thanks for this . I had no idea about this .Being in law enforcement ( or used to be) this will effect my vote. I have not been keeping up with the election until the debate.

And even more BS!

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:25 PM
"The daughter of a reputed New Jersey mob figure says her late father had a longtime relationship with Donald Trump that included gambling millions of dollars at one of his casinos, flying on his helicopter and partying aboard his private yacht.

In 1991, Trump first faced questions about his dealings with Robert LiButti, a plump, balding and nationally famous horse breeder with an explosive temper who would later be banned from New Jersey casinos for his ties to Mafia boss John Gotti. At the time, New Jersey state regulators had launched an investigation into allegations by nine employees of one of Trump’s Atlantic City casinos, the Trump Plaza, that the hotel had repeatedly removed African-Americans and women from craps tables after LiButti, one of the highest-rolling gamblers in the city’s history, loudly complained about their presence when he was playing."

The probe resulted in a $200,000 fine against the Trump Plaza by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission for violating state anti-discrimination laws. Investigators found that LiButti had, on multiple occasions, berated blacks and women using what one state official described as the “The probe resulted in a $200,000 fine against the Trump Plaza by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission for violating state anti-discrimination laws. Investigators found that LiButti had, on multiple occasions, berated blacks and women using what one state official described as the “vilest” language — including racist slurs and references to women in obscene terms — and that the Trump Plaza, in order not to lose his substantial business, sought to accommodate him by keeping the employees away from his betting tables, according to commission documents recently obtained by Yahoo News under the New Jersey Open Public Records Act.

Trump challenged over ties to mob-linked gambler with ugly past [Video] (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-challenged-over-ties-to-mob-linked-gambler-100050602.html)

If BS was music this would be a :censored: brass band!!!

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:27 PM
Again Newsweek is no longer a published in print magazine . It is an online " zine " which is barely alive .

And BUSINESS INSIDER
POLITICO

AND here are some others...

From Roy Cohen Wiki page...

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"In 1971, businessman Donald Trump moved to Manhattan, where he became involved in large construction projects, and used tacky and ugly architectural design to win public recognition.[18] Trump came to public attention in 1973 when he was accused by the Justice Department of violations of the Fair Housing Act in the operation of 39 buildings.[19] The government alleged that Trump's corporation quoted different rental terms and conditions to blacks and made false "no vacancy" statements to blacks for apartments they managed in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island.[20]

Representing Trump, Cohn filed a countersuit against the government for $100 million, asserting that the charges were irresponsible and baseless.[19][21] The countersuit was unsuccessful.[22] Trump settled the charges out of court in 1975 without admitting guilt, saying he was satisfied that the agreement did not "compel the Trump organization to accept persons on welfare as tenants unless as qualified as any other tenant."[23] The corporation was required to send a bi-weekly list of vacancies to the New York Urban League, a civil rights group, and give them priority for certain locations.[24] Several years later (in 1978) the Trump Organization was again in court for violating terms of the 1975 settlement; Cohn called the new charges "nothing more than a rehash of complaints by a couple of planted malcontents", Trump denied the charges, and there is no indication that he was found guilty.[19][22][25]"

Roy Cohn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn)

WHY DO YOU KEEP DENYING SOMETHING HE ADMITS TO OPENLY .

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:27 PM
Isikof and his fellow Newsweek writers were the primary reason that the print version of Newsweek lost its subscriber base and tanked .

He and a couple of his like minded Tribal friends raised the single $1 and purchased the Newsweek name from the Bankruptcy Court .

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:29 PM
And BUSINESS INSIDER
POLITICO

AND here are some others...

From Roy Cohen Wiki page...

"

"In 1971, businessman Donald Trump moved to Manhattan, where he became involved in large construction projects, and used tacky and ugly architectural design to win public recognition.[18] Trump came to public attention in 1973 when he was accused by the Justice Department of violations of the Fair Housing Act in the operation of 39 buildings.[19] The government alleged that Trump's corporation quoted different rental terms and conditions to blacks and made false "no vacancy" statements to blacks for apartments they managed in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island.[20]

Representing Trump, Cohn filed a countersuit against the government for $100 million, asserting that the charges were irresponsible and baseless.[19][21] The countersuit was unsuccessful.[22] Trump settled the charges out of court in 1975 without admitting guilt, saying he was satisfied that the agreement did not "compel the Trump organization to accept persons on welfare as tenants unless as qualified as any other tenant."[23] The corporation was required to send a bi-weekly list of vacancies to the New York Urban League, a civil rights group, and give them priority for certain locations.[24] Several years later (in 1978) the Trump Organization was again in court for violating terms of the 1975 settlement; Cohn called the new charges "nothing more than a rehash of complaints by a couple of planted malcontents", Trump denied the charges, and there is no indication that he was found guilty.[19][22][25]"

Roy Cohn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn)

WHY DO YOU KEEP DENYING SOMETHING HE ADMITS TO OPENLY .

Then young Donald Trump`s real estate rental company was sued by the uS Gvt along with about 150 similar companies . Ever hear of ACORN and it`s local Community Activists ?
Do you recall that ACORN finally got " outed " as a pure scam .

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:32 PM
The major issue with anything from Wikipedia is that ANYONE can write ANYTHING they want on the site . There is ZERO editorial screening or control

When you log onto any page of Wikipedia it gives you a huge disclosure of such right at the top of the page .

Got anymore HUGH LIES for us this evening ?

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:32 PM
I can find a Wkipedia page which states that the Clintons did in Vince Carter !

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:33 PM
Then young Donald Trump`s real estate rental company was sued by the uS Gvt along with about 150 similar companies . Ever hear of ACORN and it`s local Community Activists ?
Do you recall that ACORN finally got " outed " as a pure scam .

Is this what is called diversion.

The thread is about Donald Trumps ties to the mob. And some simpleton even denying he was not tutored by Roy Cohen, which he does not deny

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:49 PM
Is this what is called diversion.

The thread is about Donald Trumps ties to the mob. And some simpleton even denying he was not tutored by Roy Cohen, which he does not deny


You are apparently easily confused so I will just quietly move on .
Hopeless ---- just vote for Clinton --OK .