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Guest
09-29-2016, 03:27 PM
I am seeing all these so called “fact check” sites , I know that some must be a Clinton shill and are BS , but some of the stuff seems like it has some merit. I don’t know what to believe, HELP!

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:54 PM
Vote for crooked Hillary, even an idiot would know what he is getting with her.

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:59 PM
I am seeing all these so called “fact check” sites , I know that some must be a Clinton shill and are BS , but some of the stuff seems like it has some merit. I don’t know what to believe, HELP!

Yes , Yes . Go ahead and vote for Crooked , Lying , pocketbook filling Hillary .

If you are that weak-kneed then go with the act you know the Clinton Crime Family .

The very fact that you find yourself looking that way says that you are at heart a Clinton Mafia Voter . So rest your worried head and just go for it .
and then when all of the scandals start to come out just put your hands over your ears . You will then have the government that you deserve.

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:07 PM
I am trying to have a convo with my Dem friends here , they keep hitting me with Trump is this and that . I need ammo to hit them back . any good sites ?

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:23 PM
I am trying to have a convo with my Dem friends here , they keep hitting me with Trump is this and that . I need ammo to hit them back . any good sites ?

You don`t need any ammo . Just tell them to go with Hillary .
And you vote for Hillary also and all will be well in your world .

Just don`t bother reading or following the news once they are back in office and you will have a peaceful comfortable existence .

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:29 PM
You don`t need any ammo . Just tell them to go with Hillary .
And you vote for Hillary also and all will be well in your world .

Just don`t bother reading or following the news once they are back in office and you will have a peaceful comfortable existence .

BINGO! As they say, "Ignorance is bliss" Just remember, "If you like your health care you can keep it."

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:49 PM
BINGO! As they say, "Ignorance is bliss" Just remember, "If you like your health care you can keep it."

" and if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor " .

" and the average household is going to save over $2,400 per year in health care premium costs ".

And wow ! Isn`t it working just Ducky !!

Thank you Dear Leader Obama and Future Dear Leader Clinton !!

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:24 PM
I am seeing all these so called “fact check” sites , I know that some must be a Clinton shill and are BS , but some of the stuff seems like it has some merit. I don’t know what to believe, HELP!

Don't agonize over your choice between Trump and Clinton. Neither if elected will have much, if any, impact on your day-to-day life.

As terrible a president as Obama has been, how much did his incompetent administration (aside from ObamaCare) really impact most people's lives?

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:34 PM
I am leaning Clinton after the debate and fact checking this guy. To bad I agree about alot of what he says but ....dam he seem incompetent in the debate . I dont get on the web very much , but If I can believe what I see....Trump is kinda a con-man , sorry to say

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:34 PM
Don't agonize over your choice between Trump and Clinton. Neither if elected will have much, if any, impact on your day-to-day life.

As terrible a president as Obama has been, how much did his incompetent administration (aside from ObamaCare) really impact most people's lives?

On the other hand.....think of Trump and if he has any credence at all what will happen...

ALL economists predict massive unemployment and a depression type atmospher

We will have add so much to the national debt it is staggering.



Here is a totally unbiased review of his plans in detail......THIS IS THE LAST SENTENCE AND SUMMARY.

"CONCLUSIONSMr. Trump’s tax reform planwould boost incentives to work, save, and invest, and has the potential to simplify the tax code. By lowering marginal tax rates and further limiting or repealingmany tax expenditures, it would reduce the incentivesand opportunitiesto engage in some forms of wasteful tax avoidance. However, the plancould increase incentives for workers to characterize themselves asindependent contractors, to take advantage of the lower tax rate on business income, unless new rules were introduced to prevent this. The proposal would cut taxes on households at every income level, but much more as a share of income at the top.The fundamental concern the plan poses is that, barring extraordinarily large cuts in government spendingor future tax increases, it would yield persistently large, and likely unsustainable, budget deficits."



Analysis of Donald Trump's Tax Plan | Full Report | Tax Policy Center (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan/full)

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:37 PM
thanks for that . I am still looking at this seems liget

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:42 PM
I am leaning Clinton after the debate and fact checking this guy. To bad I agree about alot of what he says but ....dam he seem incompetent in the debate . I dont get on the web very much , but If I can believe what I see....Trump is kinda a con-man , sorry to say

You are not just electing a specific person you are electing a new government --- thousands of senior management jobs and an overall guiding philosophy . Also the future construct of the Supreme Court .

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:52 PM
You are not just electing a specific person you are electing a new government --- thousands of senior management jobs and an overall guiding philosophy . Also the future construct of the Supreme Court .

You make a valid point for consideration on the court.

My oroblem is simply put...we are electing someone who will represent our country throughout the world.

This is a man, no matter how many in a new govt, is responsible for..

Foreign policy....his reactions to almost anything that does not resolve around him is scary. Today we hear, he is spending his time chastising them for allowing the media to say he did not win the debate. He is spending time charting ghosts with Clinton. He is wasting time instead of laying out any plans.
In addition, until he releases taxes, he is just not to be trusted. If you want your President who is responsible for foreign policy to be PERSONALLY INDEBTED to countries in the billions, who has violated our own countries laws on trade, etc, well you are just foolish.

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:54 PM
He is also the person to bring forward policy and work with congress on that. He has offended most of those members, and based on polling may single handily lose both the house and senate for his party.

No need to mention how he labels Americans and then has fun making fun of them.

Guest
09-29-2016, 05:56 PM
He frankly seems hell bent on giving up all three houses of government to the Democrats.

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:02 PM
On the other hand.....think of Trump and if he has any credence at all what will happen...

ALL economists predict massive unemployment and a depression type atmospher

We will have add so much to the national debt it is staggering.



Here is a totally unbiased review of his plans in detail......THIS IS THE LAST SENTENCE AND SUMMARY.

"CONCLUSIONSMr. Trump’s tax reform planwould boost incentives to work, save, and invest, and has the potential to simplify the tax code. By lowering marginal tax rates and further limiting or repealingmany tax expenditures, it would reduce the incentivesand opportunitiesto engage in some forms of wasteful tax avoidance. However, the plancould increase incentives for workers to characterize themselves asindependent contractors, to take advantage of the lower tax rate on business income, unless new rules were introduced to prevent this. The proposal would cut taxes on households at every income level, but much more as a share of income at the top.The fundamental concern the plan poses is that, barring extraordinarily large cuts in government spendingor future tax increases, it would yield persistently large, and likely unsustainable, budget deficits."



Analysis of Donald Trump's Tax Plan | Full Report | Tax Policy Center (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan/full)

The people that wrote this are the same fine folks who advised the Federal Government on the benefits of what is now Obama-Care . So if you think Obama Care is a great program and created by very smart people then by all means listen to what they are saying here .
By the way if you have ever taken any college courses then you know that professors are more likely than not full of crap ! And these are the folks who write such articles and studies to enhance their professorial income .

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:04 PM
He frankly seems hell bent on giving up all three houses of government to the Democrats.

It really doesn't matter does it? If Hillary is elected, how will Trump's defeat help the Republicans maintain control of the House and Senate.

Republican control of the House and Senate may very well be lost regardless who is elected president.

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:12 PM
thanks It is nice to hear logic and facts . I am still making my decision but leaning Clinton for now .

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:16 PM
It really doesn't matter does it? If Hillary is elected, how will Trump's defeat help the Republicans maintain control of the House and Senate.

Republican control of the House and Senate may very well be lost regardless who is elected president.

I suggest you do some reading.

Voters are fleeing the party because of Trump. He will tell you he is adding but all he did was add to the open voting states in the primary.

Most downticket candidates are insuring voters do not tie themselves to Trump.

Yes..party would have problems without Trump but now they are huge. The party is fractured just simply because of Trump. You have to read more about the real world.

And imagine a Trump presidency with Dems in charge. Is he the great communicator to bring people together. He has repeatly insulted his own party members.

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:33 PM
I am seeing all these so called “fact check” sites , I know that some must be a Clinton shill and are BS , but some of the stuff seems like it has some merit. I don’t know what to believe, HELP!

Another BS bait post.

The pattern of these oh dear what shall I do posts is sorta lame.

Guest
09-29-2016, 07:09 PM
I suggest you do some reading.

Voters are fleeing the party because of Trump. He will tell you he is adding but all he did was add to the open voting states in the primary.

Most downticket candidates are insuring voters do not tie themselves to Trump.

Yes..party would have problems without Trump but now they are huge. The party is fractured just simply because of Trump. You have to read more about the real world.

And imagine a Trump presidency with Dems in charge. Is he the great communicator to bring people together. He has repeatly insulted his own party members.

I find your comment insulting. In my post, if you bothered to read it, merely points out that it doesn't matter whether or not Trump is elected or defeated, the damage, if any, to the Republican party has ALREADY been done.

Guest
09-29-2016, 07:26 PM
I find your comment insulting. In my post, if you bothered to read it, merely points out that it doesn't matter whether or not Trump is elected or defeated, the damage, if any, to the Republican party has ALREADY been done.

I apologize.

I misread and am sorry.

I thought it was another of those posts saying how Trump will change and surround himself with real sane people.

I do apologize to you, and agree with your premise.

He has permanently damaged the GOP and has given life to the Democrats for years to come

aGAIN.....SORRY

Guest
09-29-2016, 07:34 PM
Trump can not do any more damage to the GOP than the GOP and the media has already done to itself .
We are sadly a Nation determined to live under the Rule not Governance but Rule of a single political party .
This is what the majority seems to want so it is exactly what the majority is going to get .
By the time the majority comes to understand what they have done to their country and their freedoms it will be too late .

To see the many benefits of decades of single party rule you just need to check out Chicago , Detroit , Cleveland , Buffalo , St Louis , Baltimore , Washington DC , and many many more .

Guest
09-29-2016, 08:20 PM
Trump can not do any more damage to the GOP than the GOP and the media has already done to itself .
We are sadly a Nation determined to live under the Rule not Governance but Rule of a single political party .
This is what the majority seems to want so it is exactly what the majority is going to get .
By the time the majority comes to understand what they have done to their country and their freedoms it will be too late .

To see the many benefits of decades of single party rule you just need to check out Chicago , Detroit , Cleveland , Buffalo , St Louis , Baltimore , Washington DC , and many many more .

Sadly, I agree.