SEX offender moves into Pine Ridge!!!

[kstew43]

Convicted sex offender moves into home in Village of Pine Ridge

A 55-year-old convicted sex offender has moved into the Village of Pine Ridge.

Michael XXXXXX XXXXXX has moved into a home at 3214 Kranz Ave., according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. (other news online)

he was arrested in Volusia County on a charge of traveling to meet a minor to commit an unlawful sexual offense.

In October 2012 He was sentenced to one year and eight months in the Florida Department of Corrections.

I realize he served his time.....but can people with this issue really be repaired?

I know we need to know this but......Still Scary..... mug shot sort of intimidating looking as well....

[redwitch]

Better here than next door to a high school. Hopefully, all of his neighbors will be made aware of the charges and keep an eye all young women visiting in the neighborhood.

[jswintberg]

This post really struck a nerve. The facts are not always what they seem to be, and he is being judged by his looks?? The guy has done some time and probably has a lifetime Megan Law sentence. He has moved to an age restricted community where minors are not in residence. Is fair to shun and judge a new resident who may otherwise be an upstanding guy who is looking for a new start?

[manaboutown]

This post really struck a nerve. The facts are not always what they seem to be, and he is being judged by his looks?? The guy has done some time and probably has a lifetime Megan Law sentence. He has moved to an age restricted community where minors are not in residence. Is fair to shun and judge a new resident who may otherwise be an upstanding guy who is looking for a new start?

Actually pedophilia is not curable. The Villages does have a high school and grandchildren visit residents so minors are available for him to prey upon.

[kstew43]

This post really struck a nerve. The facts are not always what they seem to be, and he is being judged by his looks?? The guy has done some time and probably has a lifetime Megan Law sentence. He has moved to an age restricted community where minors are not in residence. Is fair to shun and judge a new resident who may otherwise be an upstanding guy who is looking for a new start?

being a child who was molested by a close family member in my childhood ages 9-14.. and living with the trama of those 5 years of terror and memories that affected my relationships and my marriage to this day..... I say......

He lost his rights the same day she lost her childhood....

[graciegirl]

being a child who was molested by a close family member in my childhood ages 9-14.. and living with the trama of those 5 years of terror and memories that affected my relationships and my marriage to this day..... I say......

He lost his rights the same day she lost her childhood....

That is very scary and sad for any child and the harm continues forever. I am sorry this happened to you. We know now that pedophiles never change as was mentioned. I wish he didn't live here.

Many women would be far more harsh with punishment to people who sexually molest children. I think they should be neutered.

[goodtimesintv]

This post really struck a nerve. The facts are not always what they seem to be, and he is being judged by his looks?? The guy has done some time and probably has a lifetime Megan Law sentence. He has moved to an age restricted community where minors are not in residence. Is fair to shun and judge a new resident who may otherwise be an upstanding guy who is looking for a new start?

Pedophilia isn't curable. Too bad the courts don't release them to live next door to parole board members and psychiatrists/psychologists.

[rubicon]

He is not the first sex offender to move to The Villages. This same news has been reported and repeated for the 10 years that I lived here.

Most of us suffer cognitive dissonance when it comes to criminal activity. We want to be Christian enough to forgive but yet not naive' enough to be taken for fools. So most of us take a trust but verify approach daily.

My folks made me aware that living is risk and that the best we can do is use our skills to eliminate it where we can, transfer it where we can ( protection of police for example) or deal directly with it when we must . but it is naive to believe that we can live in a risk free world

I opine you may decide

[Kup Kake]

Surprise, surprise. He is not the only sex offender who lives here.
No matter where you may live, you will find them in practically every community.
Wake up folks. It's part of life in today's world.

[Villager Joyce]

He is not the first sex offender to move to The Villages. This same news has been reported and repeated for the 10 years that I lived here.

Most of us suffer cognitive dissonance when it comes to criminal activity. We want to be Christian enough to forgive but yet not naive' enough to be taken for fools. So most of us take a trust but verify approach daily.

My folks made me aware that living is risk and that the best we can do is use our skills to eliminate it where we can, transfer it where we can ( protection of police for example) or deal directly with it when we must . but it is naive to believe that we can live in a risk free world

I opine you may decide

Beautifully written, from the heart.

[Taltarzac725]

Just keep your loved ones informed about being careful and the like. And many sexual perverts have not been caught yet for whatever reason. Think about the man at the Villages' radio station and his penchant for child porn.

Everyone that knows my handle remembers that I have been fighting for survivors/victims rights since January 1991 through advocating improved materials for prevention of crimes accessible through or in libraries of all kinds. What is most important about this is education about how to improve safety of loved ones.

[ColdNoMore]

Surprise, surprise. He is not the only sex offender who lives here.
No matter where you may live, you will find them in practically every community.
Wake up folks. It's part of life in today's world.

Yep.

I was a bit shocked when I saw how many actually live here in TV.

The only good thing is that because of Megan's Law...we can now see those who live around us.

Megan's Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan%27s_Law)



Here is the site where you can search for them.

FDLE Florida Sexual Offenders and Predators (http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/Search.jsp)

[Taltarzac725]

Yep.

I was a bit shocked when I saw how many actually live here in TV.

The only good thing is that because of Megan's Law...we can now see those who live around us.

Megan's Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan%27s_Law)



Here is the site where you can search for them.

FDLE Florida Sexual Offenders and Predators (http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/Search.jsp)

There are problems with this law. Sometimes it casts too wide a net and gets kids who were in love but were underage.

And people should always be on their guard about the perverts who have not been caught.

[justjim]

Without knowing the details of this case, maybe we shouldn't rush to judgement. I don't know but it sounds like he may have been caught up in some type of "sting operation". Not everyone on the offender list are necessarily incurable pedifiles. Just saying.

[RickeyD]

Convicted sex offender moves into home in Village of Pine Ridge

A 55-year-old convicted sex offender has moved into the Village of Pine Ridge.

Michael XXXXXX XXXXXX has moved into a home at 3214 Kranz Ave., according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. (other news online)

he was arrested in Volusia County on a charge of traveling to meet a minor to commit an unlawful sexual offense.

In October 2012 He was sentenced to one year and eight months in the Florida Department of Corrections.

I realize he served his time.....but can people with this issue really be repaired?

I know we need to know this but......Still Scary..... mug shot sort of intimidating looking as well....

I don't think any neighborhood anywhere at any point in time has been perfect. Registered and unregistered sex offenders live everywhere. If he were my neighbor I wouldn't treat him any different although I would keep his history in the back of my mind. It wasn't so long ago that sodomy was illegal in many southern states. Remember when Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old ?

[Villager Joyce]

Without knowing the details of this case, maybe we shouldn't rush to judgement. I don't know but it sounds like he may have been caught up in some type of "sting operation". Not everyone on the offender list are necessarily incurable pedifiles. Just saying.

So it's okay that he was going to meet a minor because it was a sting operation? Please explain that to me.

[manaboutown]

There are more than a few in 32162. Florida Sex Offenders and Predators In Zip Code 32162 (http://www.floridapredators.com/floridapredatorsbyzip.aspx?zipcode=32162)

[goodtimesintv]

At this point, with the perp under watch, it is more a matter of

"There goes the neighborhood."

Glad I don't live next to that guy that shot into the neighbor lady's front door area 33 times.

[kstew43]

I don't think any neighborhood anywhere at any point in time has been perfect. Registered and unregistered sex offenders live everywhere. If he were my neighbor I wouldn't treat him any different although I would keep his history in the back of my mind. It wasn't so long ago that sodomy was illegal in many southern states. Remember when Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old ?

thats all well and good....for you.......


know someone who has been a victim? ..... then things maybe will look a little different to you..... history changes everything....

sodomy to a unwilling participant is illegal......its called rape.... and

Jerry Lee Lewis distroyed his career with that 13 year old marriage move....so that point is moot....

i am open minded, usually....but this topic changed my life....and many others....needless acts done by deviants

Took a look at the sexual deviants list on the computer......wow.....this information, I never knew.....how many and how close....
Florida Sex Offenders and Predators In Zip Code 32162

[charmed59]

The Florida site from above was enlightening. In a three miles radius from my home, there are 16 registered sex offenders with permanent villages addresses. Ten of them are under 55. Another 3 are under 57. Not your average mix of villagers.

I suspect that many originally moved here because they were limited to abodes without children nearby, and this is where any relatives without children in their home or in their neighborhood lived. This may be the safest place to put folks that did their time but should not be regularly near children.

That said, the 5 younger offenders living off of Belvedere Blvd near the charter high school is worrisome.

[Dennis and Rose]

I consider myself a forgiving Christian person. EXCEPT when it comes to my children, and grandchildren. In those cases going back to jail, would be the least of his concerns. I am not saying I am right, just being honest.

[kstew43]

high school kids typically travel in groups or have boyfriends....support systems sometimes... cell phones...ect they may do stupid things but their more worldly...

its the GRAMMER and MIDDLE SCHOOL kids....I worry most about..... the ones that still have the "respect for adults".....

[kstew43]

I consider myself a forgiving Christian person. EXCEPT when it comes to my children, and grandchildren. In those cases going back to jail, would be the least of his concerns. I am not saying I am right, just being honest.

I say allieviate the problem...."off with there heads".....the little one.....

[theorem painter]

Without knowing the details of this case, maybe we shouldn't rush to judgement. I don't know but it sounds like he may have been caught up in some type of "sting operation". Not everyone on the offender list are necessarily incurable pedifiles. Just saying.

Whether it was a sting operation or not they still committed and were convicted of a crime. Yes, not everyone of the sexual offender registry is a pedophile, many are rapists. Having worked with sexual deviants for 35 years I can tell you that pedophiles are incurable.

[kstew43]

myself, I never told at age 9 because it was my stepfather, we had money and a big home and other than this a good life and for some strange reason, thought I causes this and didn't want to mess this up for my mother. They divorced when I was 14. thankgod.....and he moved far away...

When I did finally tell at age 20 when he was attempting to take custody of my 9 year old stepsister, I told my mom, who didn't believe me till my grandmother told my mom that my stepdad had attempted to molest her.

Incest was not spoken of back in the 70's. My moms lawyers told his lawyers and he backed off my sisters custody battle but the Statue of limitations had lapsed so he got away with it... but he will rot in hell one day, I am sure of that...Hopefully die slowly and painfully

[Gpsma]

But surely you realize that pedophilia has many faces. We all think of the pedophile who molests very young children but some are more attracted to late teens. The US has very high age of consent laws compared to many countries. I have seen many convicted pedophiles on the web who simply were nailed because the young lady was just below the age of consent.

Reminds me of the time an employee of mine who was 22 and in the process of applying for the NYPD. He met a young lady and they were going to hook up, she appeared and told him she was 19. He was bright enough to ask her for proof of age.....she wasnt even 17. Had he gone ahead and hooked up with her he might now be a convicted pedophile.

[RickeyD]

thats all well and good....for you.......


know someone who has been a victim? ..... then things maybe will look a little different to you..... history changes everything....

sodomy to a unwilling participant is illegal......its called rape.... and

Jerry Lee Lewis distroyed his career with that 13 year old marriage move....so that point is moot....

i am open minded, usually....but this topic changed my life....and many others....needless acts done by deviants

Took a look at the sexual deviants list on the computer......wow.....this information, I never knew.....how many and how close....
Florida Sex Offenders and Predators In Zip Code 32162

Funny you should ask. My life was charted from infancy as a result of "deviant" sexual behavior. My grandfather, uncle's, mother, father all involved in one way or another with this type of behavior and resulting life changing events. It does not disgust or shock me in any way at all. Perhaps I'm desensitized to things like this but I realize that throughout human history and throughout the entire spectrum of human sexuality what was and is considered immoral in one society is normal and accepted in another. What is considered normal in one family may be considered not normal in another. We must all obey the law of the land and if disobeyed, pay the price and when the price is paid be left alone.

[SisalPhil]

I worked juvenile sex crimes as a detective and as a detective sergeant. There is no cure just incarceration or death. Those that think a person has been tricked by authorities I consider part of the problem.

[graciegirl]

Funny you should ask. My life was charted from infancy as a result of "deviant" sexual behavior. My grandfather, uncle's, mother, father all involved in one way or another with this type of behavior and resulting life changing events. It does not disgust or shock me in any way at all. Perhaps I'm desensitized to things like this but I realize that throughout human history and throughout the entire spectrum of human sexuality what was and is considered immoral in one society is normal and accepted in another. What is considered normal in one family may be considered not normal in another. We must all obey the law of the land and if disobeyed, pay the price and when the price is paid be left alone.



I too have been taught that a person's sexual preference for children cannot be changed. So even if arrested and jailed, they will still have a sexual preference for children. FOREVER. Even if they are shocked with electricity each time they feel the urge toward children, even if they are beaten and........carefully watched.


I think I don't understand what you are saying. I understand about the age of consent being a societal norm.....but the rest I don't understand. Children are little and adults are bigger and stronger and smarter. It isn't right to gratify someone's sexual desires with children. It isn't fair. It is wrong. I know this not because of laws, but I KNOW this because mothers protect instinctively.

[RickeyD]

You were abused?

I too have been taught that a person's sexual preference for children cannot be changed. So even if arrested and jailed, they will still have a sexual preference for children.

I think I don't understand what you are saying. I understand about the age of consent being a societal norm.....but the rest I don't understand. I am sorry if you were abused by people you loved and trusted.

I was not abused. My mother was by her father and siblings. My life was redirected as a result.

[graciegirl]

I was not abused. My mother was by her father and siblings. My life was redirected as a result.

I am relieved. for you.

[outlaw]

So it's okay that he was going to meet a minor because it was a sting operation? Please explain that to me.

I think he was going to meet a 14 year old. It's legal to marry a 14 yo with a parent's permission. Many, many military men brought back teenage wives from their Vietnam tours. Some are still married.

[Jima64]

I think he was going to meet a 14 year old. It's legal to marry a 14 yo with a parent's permission. Many, many military men brought back teenage wives from their Vietnam tours. Some are still married.

Would be interesting to see stats on the Nam wives. What would "many" equate to?

[Villager Joyce]

I think he was going to meet a 14 year old. It's legal to marry a 14 yo with a parent's permission. Many, many military men brought back teenage wives from their Vietnam tours. Some are still married.

Please tell me you aren't condoning this behavior? I would like to hear what the many teenage girls brought back as wives think. Do you think they had a choice? Some think of this as legali. I think it is legalized rape. Rape is rape.

[Jima64]

I think he was going to meet a 14 year old. It's legal to marry a 14 yo with a parent's permission. Many, many military men brought back teenage wives from their Vietnam tours. Some are still married.

Would be interesting to see stats on the Nam wives. What would "many" equate to?

[Jima64]

This post really struck a nerve. The facts are not always what they seem to be, and he is being judged by his looks?? The guy has done some time and probably has a lifetime Megan Law sentence. He has moved to an age restricted community where minors are not in residence. Is fair to shun and judge a new resident who may otherwise be an upstanding guy who is looking for a new start?

He is a registered sex offender and needs to be kept track of. He didn't get a dui or steal beer from the local store. I personally would not socialize with him or encourage his coming into my home or anywhere near me. He was going to meet a minor for sex so tell me how he is being judged on his looks.

[Cathy H]

forgive him and extend a hand of friendship.

[graciegirl]

He is a registered sex offender and needs to be kept track of. He didn't get a dui or steal beer from the local store. I personally would not socialize with him or encourage his coming into my home or anywhere near me. He was going to meet a minor for sex so tell me how he is being judged on his looks.

I agree.

[nnurse]

Thank-you for this info...he is my neighbor. I live 2 doors from him. I don't know what to say...

[graciegirl]

Thank-you for this info...he is my neighbor. I live 2 doors from him. I don't know what to say...

I am so sorry.

[nnurse]

Thanks for this news. I live 2 doors down from him...don't know what to say. :cryin2:

[ronsroni]

Oh, my dear. Please just continue to be vigilant and use the senses you were born with. Hopefully, this man will be looking to live his life in a low key manner away from kids. Not knowing the first-hand story, I find it a dicey situation and I am saying that I am not quick to judge him without merit. I suppose I would need to know the entire story before I formed an opinion of any sort. Right now, though, I would suggest that YOU go with your heart and if you have developed a 'hi and bye' relationship, so be it. if you have a 'come on in for coffee' relationship, you might let him know that YOU are aware of his record. It may be awkward to suddenly shut him down if you have him as your neighbor and you are friendly. Use your heart and don't fall victim to the emotions of others. Use YOUR best judgement.
Tough position to be in. As Gracie said, I am sorry.
All the best.....

[manaboutown]

Thank-you for this info...he is my neighbor. I live 2 doors from him. I don't know what to say...

Oh my. Proceed with extreme caution!

[Chi-Town]

Checking out some of the addresses on the list was an eye opener. What a cross section geographically.

[Taltarzac725]

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
:

Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0775/Sections/0775.21.html)

I thought this might be a good link to have in this discussion.

[outlaw]

Would be interesting to see stats on the Nam wives. What would "many" equate to?

Thousands. Most of these women I have met are happy to be in the US. This was their ticket out of extreme poverty. They are considered wealthy when they visit family in Vietnam.
US culture is different than many places such as Vietnam, where it is not unusual to marry at a very young age.

[outlaw]

Please tell me you aren't condoning this behavior? I would like to hear what the many teenage girls brought back as wives think. Do you think they had a choice? Some think of this as legali. I think it is legalized rape. Rape is rape.

I don't think this guy was convicted as a pedophile. That is a desire for prepubescent girls/boys, usually up to age 12.
Many/most of these teenage girls are happy that they were able to escape their extreme poverty, and are living a dream life compared to what their other family members are living. Most that I have met are totally assimilated Americans and love our way of life.

[outlaw]

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12.

This case involved a "14 yo". Very common in many countries, even legal marriage in some states.

[Villager Joyce]

There are so many things I would like to say in response, but I think the readers of your post get it. I don't need to point out anything.

[outlaw]

There are so many things I would like to say in response, but I think tbe readers if your posy get it. I don't need to point out anything.

Please come on and repost your thoughts when your daughter/grand daughter is legally raped or prostitutes herself to get out of poverty.

Look. I get it. Many people are repulsed by something like this. But you were raised in a different culture. To many people, drastic age differences between a man and a girl is not offensive, and not abnormal. It is a fact. I know people in these relationships, and no matter how you want to think these young girls were "raped" or abused, you are shoving your culture on them. They are truly happy families with healthy happy children living the American dream. I'm not saying this particular guy is a saint. He may very well be a sleazeball. But he could also be a very lonely guy that was just looking for a relationship and got sucked into a sting operation. Would you feel this way if the situation involved a 15 yo girl that looked like a 20 yo dating a 40 yo man? How about a 17 yo girl dating a 25 yo man?

[graciegirl]

Look. I get it. Many people are repulsed by something like this. But you were raised in a different culture. To many people, drastic age differences between a man and a girl is not offensive, and not abnormal. It is a fact. I know people in these relationships, and no matter how you want to think these young girls were "raped" or abused, you are shoving your culture on them. They are truly happy families with healthy happy children living the American dream. I'm not saying this particular guy is a saint. He may very well be a sleazeball. But he could also be a very lonely guy that was just looking for a relationship and got sucked into a sting operation. Would you feel this way if the situation involved a 15 yo girl that looked like a 20 yo dating a 40 yo man? How about a 17 yo girl dating a 25 yo man?

There are reasons that young people under 18 are under the "control" of their parents. There are reasons there are laws to protect them from stuff like this. Laws like statutory rape, the Mann Act, laws against sex trafficking. You can argue culture and I say Common Sense is the issue here.

"A very lonely guy that got sucked into a sting operation" is a reach. With available opportunities among consenting adults, I say horsesh*t.

[Taltarzac725]

There are reasons that young people under 18 are under the "control" of their parents. There are reasons there are laws to protect them from stuff like this. Laws like statutory rape, the Mann Act, laws against sex trafficking. You can argue culture and I say Common Sense is the issue here.

"A very lonely guy that got sucked into a sting operation" is a reach. With available opportunities among consenting adults, I say horsesh*t.

It would be nice to know more about the sting operation. If it were some ad for sex with a minor that is one thing. If it is just someone who mistook the age of a picture on the Internet of some detective in drag, then that is another.

[zonerboy]

I would think that the majority of "child molestors" do not grab kids off the street so that they can molest them. Rather, most of them know their victims and carefully "groom" them so that they can be molested repeatedly and without violence. This being the case I would not be overly concerned if a one time convicted offender lived in my neighborhood. With a minimum of caution and awareness there should be no problems.
Just my opinion.....it's the offenders we don't know about who represent the danger.

[Taltarzac725]

I would think that the majority of "child molestors" do not grab kids off the street so that they can molest them. Rather, most of them know their victims and carefully "groom" them so that they can be molested repeatedly and without violence. This being the case I would not be overly concerned if a one time convicted offender lived in my neighborhood. With a minimum of caution and awareness there should be no problems.
Just my opinion.....it's the offenders we don't know about who represent the danger.

That's very true. Or naive kids who are not taught by their parents about what to look out for from even known sexual offenders.

[outlaw]

There are reasons that young people under 18 are under the "control" of their parents. There are reasons there are laws to protect them from stuff like this. Laws like statutory rape, the Mann Act, laws against sex trafficking. You can argue culture and I say Common Sense is the issue here.

"A very lonely guy that got sucked into a sting operation" is a reach. With available opportunities among consenting adults, I say horsesh*t.

If it were not for laws, this behavior would be a lot more common than you could imagine. There is a reason Thailand, Vietnam, etc., are a hot spot for older single American men. One does not need laws for things that would otherwise not happen. Drunk driving laws are a good example. Drug laws. Speeding laws. Many states allow marriage of very young people; 14, 15, 16, yo. A 30 yo man can legally marry a 14 yo girl, publicly celebrate the marriage, post the wedding in the local paper, etc., yet a 30 yo man becomes a pariah if he has sex with a 14 yo girl? Seems a little hypocritical.

[graciegirl]

If it were not for laws, this behavior would be a lot more common than you could imagine. There is a reason Thailand, Vietnam, etc., are a hot spot for older single American men. One does not need laws for things that would otherwise not happen. Drunk driving laws are a good example. Drug laws. Speeding laws. Many states allow marriage of very young people; 14, 15, 16, yo. A 30 yo man can legally marry a 14 yo girl, publicly celebrate the marriage, post the wedding in the local paper, etc., yet a 30 yo man becomes a pariah if he has sex with a 14 yo girl? Seems a little hypocritical.

This all seems very..........Freudian.

[RickeyD]

This all seems very..........Freudian.



"Sigmund Freud emphasized the importance of the unconscious mind, and a primary assumption of Freudian theory is that the unconscious mind governs behavior to a greater degree than people suspect. Indeed, the goal of psychoanalysis is to make the unconscious conscious."

[RickeyD]

If it were not for laws, this behavior would be a lot more common than you could imagine. There is a reason Thailand, Vietnam, etc., are a hot spot for older single American men. One does not need laws for things that would otherwise not happen. Drunk driving laws are a good example. Drug laws. Speeding laws. Many states allow marriage of very young people; 14, 15, 16, yo. A 30 yo man can legally marry a 14 yo girl, publicly celebrate the marriage, post the wedding in the local paper, etc., yet a 30 yo man becomes a pariah if he has sex with a 14 yo girl? Seems a little hypocritical.



New Hampshire allows a 13 year old female under "special causes" YIKES !!!

[Villager Joyce]

Look. I get it. Many people are repulsed by something like this. But you were raised in a different culture. To many people, drastic age differences between a man and a girl is not offensive, and not abnormal. It is a fact. I know people in these relationships, and no matter how you want to think these young girls were "raped" or abused, you are shoving your culture on them. They are truly happy families with healthy happy children living the American dream. I'm not saying this particular guy is a saint. He may very well be a sleazeball. But he could also be a very lonely guy that was just looking for a relationship and got sucked into a sting operation. Would you feel this way if the situation involved a 15 yo girl that looked like a 20 yo dating a 40 yo man? How about a 17 yo girl dating a 25 yo man?

We are not discussing other cultures. We are discussing people who live in the United States. Your forgiveness for the sting operation is what really puzzles me. He wanted to have sexual relations with a minor. Period. If he wasn't trying to have sex with a minor, he could not have gotten sucked into a sting operation.
Your reference to looking older is just as puzzling. Jon benet Ramsey looked older. Was she fair game?
Were you a criminal defense attirney?

[RickeyD]

Age of marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States)

Seems very hypocritical. It's ok to have sex with a minor as long as its her husband? What if she's married at 16 and has sex with a 30 year old who's not her husband, is this illegal ? Or ok because she's married. Very confusing...

[RickeyD]

This all seems very..........Freudian.



More like very......Puritan.

[kstew43]

That kind of thinking does not belong in todays society.

[Retiring]

Is there anything special about this particular registered sex offender? There are tons of registered sex offenders living in the villages. The majority listed as “Offense Against Child.” We all need to keep our head on a swivel. See something, say something.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/showmap.asp

[graciegirl]

More like very......Puritan.

Bull****! Most of us have enjoyed very healthy sexual activity for many years and are not afraid to discuss sex and healthy sexual choices.

A child molester is taking advantage of another human being for their own gratification.

At our nice lower middle class elementary school, the principal impregnated a 12 year old. That was a LONG time ago. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. Maybe she was a consenting 12 year old, starved for affection and enjoying attention from a person who was respected.

I don't understand your use of the word puritan. People railing against those that society has found guilty of breaking their rules aren't puritanical. My kids grew tired of me bringing up sex, reproduction, relationships, responsibility, getting pregnant, carrying condoms, making the right choices, masturbation, disease, public decency, how to act and still be a healthy sexual person.

I know that stadiums full of cheering fans filling the seats because every one of them was produced through sexual activity.

[golfing eagles]

The last thing I want to do is make any statement in defense of sex offenders, but I think we have to be careful here. I don't think the law makes enough of a distinction between various categories of offenders. There is a huge difference between an 18 year old man dating a 15 year old for a year and then having consensual sexual relations, and a 60 year old man luring a 6 year old girl into his van with a puppy. But both could be branded a sex offender for life.
For example, my son had a friend when he lived in Colorado who had a 18 year old son that was just a bit "slow". As a result, he was frequently harassed by some "bullies" in his senior class. One afternoon he was cutting across the athletic fields of the high school that was a complex shared by a middle school and elementary school. He was attacked by 6 or 7 "bullies" who stripped him of all his clothing and took his cell phone, leaving him in the middle of the field naked. There wasn't even a fig tree to grab a leaf from, so he ran towards the school looking for help. He was seen by a group of 4th grade girls who started screaming, which gained the attention of school administration and the police were called. He was arrested, convicted of a sexual offense, and sentenced to 6 months in jail and 5 years probation, as well as being listed for life as a "sex offender". This highlights one of the problems with "zero tolerance" policies. I just don't see this as a sex offense, and since "intent" seems to be a new yardstick applied to the law, I don't see intent either. If anything the true offenders were the group of boys that stripped him. BTW, he named them, but no one was interested. The police "had their man", case closed. The DA had his conviction. Case closed.

Now the true sex offenders are pedophiles who prey on pre-teen children and those who commit non-consensual assault. I don't think two teenagers with poor judgement , and certainly not the boy described above should be branded for life

That being said, probably 90+% of those labeled as sex offenders truly deserve it, so be careful.

[kstew43]

Is there anything special about this particular registered sex offender? There are tons of registered sex offenders living in the villages. The majority listed as “Offense Against Child.” We all need to keep our head on a swivel. See something, say something.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/showmap.asp

since I was the OP, i will let you know why I chose to put this out.

I was actually interested in a home that backed to Krantz, but decided, thank goodness, that the taxes were too high and I would wait for something in sumter.

when I read this article on Facebook, I was devastated because of my childhood history and the thought that I could have lived next door to something that would bring back memories of what I went thru every day, for the rest of my life.


this just adds one more thing to my list to check before buying a home.

I realize there are predators , 26 in that one Villages zip code.....but they didn't hit as close to home as this one did.

[RickeyD]

Bull****! Most of us have enjoyed very healthy sexual activity for many years and are not afraid to discuss sex and healthy sexual choices.



A child molester is taking advantage of another human being for their own gratification.



At our nice lower middle class elementary school, the principal impregnated a 12 year old. That was a LONG time ago. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. Maybe she was a consenting 12 year old, starved for affection and enjoying attention from a person who was respected.



What are you trying to say, Rickey D? That all sexual urges have the right to be gratified? My kids grew tired of me bringing up sex, reproduction, relationships, responsibility, getting pregnant, carrying condoms, making the right choices, masturbation, disease, public decency, how to act and still be a healthy sexual person.



I know that stadiums full of cheering fans filling the seats because every one of them was produced through sexual activity.



Please don't project onto me. My point is this. The state can sanction a marriage between a minor and an adult and its legal. Unmarried consensual sex between these two people is illegal. So, what are we talking about here. Morality or illegality ?

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[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=RickeyD;1300221]Please don't project onto me.
I was responding to the use of your word...puritan.

[RickeyD]

Puritan not applied to you but to the law and moray's.

[CFrance]

since I was the OP, i will let you know why I chose to put this out.

I was actually interested in a home that backed to Krantz, but decided, thank goodness, that the taxes were too high and I would wait for something in sumter.

when I read this article on Facebook, I was devastated because of my childhood history and the thought that I could have lived next door to something that would bring back memories of what I went thru every day, for the rest of my life.


this just adds one more thing to my list to check before buying a home.

I realize there are predators , 26 in that one Villages zip code.....but they didn't hit as close to home as this one did.
You should be looking VERY carefully at the sexual predator statistics before thinking about where you will live. Don't wait for Facebook to tell you what's what. You have a very real concern. I would even go to the police department if I were you and looking for a move. I'm astounded you would leave this to chance, given your circumstances. I'm sorry for what has happened to you and wish you the best, safest move possible.

[Retiring]

since I was the OP, i will let you know why I chose to put this out.

I was actually interested in a home that backed to Krantz, but decided, thank goodness, that the taxes were too high and I would wait for something in sumter.

when I read this article on Facebook, I was devastated because of my childhood history and the thought that I could have lived next door to something that would bring back memories of what I went thru every day, for the rest of my life.


this just adds one more thing to my list to check before buying a home.

I realize there are predators , 26 in that one Villages zip code.....but they didn't hit as close to home as this one did.

I am so sorry you had to deal with such evil as a child. Something no one should ever experience. I will pray that you find some level of peace over time.

I consider myself a Christian, which means I’m supposed to forgive. But when it comes to those that hurt children, I can’t. Yes TV has many RSOs. Just on one website it shows << 59 Mapped Offenders, 11 Un-Mapped Offenders>> and that’s only the people that actually have “The Villages” in their address. If you extend out to 32159-32163 you see far more listed, numbers rise into the hundreds.

You are smart for checking the database pre-purchase. I do the same. However, I don’t know where I would draw the line. Next door, no way. One block away, probably not. Two blocks away, I don’t know.

As a civilized society we don’t seek retribution but me MUST be vigilant.

[graciegirl]

The last thing I want to do is make any statement in defense of sex offenders, but I think we have to be careful here. I don't think the law makes enough of a distinction between various categories of offenders. There is a huge difference between an 18 year old man dating a 15 year old for a year and then having consensual sexual relations, and a 60 year old man luring a 6 year old girl into his van with a puppy. But both could be branded a sex offender for life.
For example, my son had a friend when he lived in Colorado who had a 18 year old son that was just a bit "slow". As a result, he was frequently harassed by some "bullies" in his senior class. One afternoon he was cutting across the athletic fields of the high school that was a complex shared by a middle school and elementary school. He was attacked by 6 or 7 "bullies" who stripped him of all his clothing and took his cell phone, leaving him in the middle of the field naked. There wasn't even a fig tree to grab a leaf from, so he ran towards the school looking for help. He was seen by a group of 4th grade girls who started screaming, which gained the attention of school administration and the police were called. He was arrested, convicted of a sexual offense, and sentenced to 6 months in jail and 5 years probation, as well as being listed for life as a "sex offender". This highlights one of the problems with "zero tolerance" policies. I just don't see this as a sex offense, and since "intent" seems to be a new yardstick applied to the law, I don't see intent either. If anything the true offenders were the group of boys that stripped him. BTW, he named them, but no one was interested. The police "had their man", case closed. The DA had his conviction. Case closed.

Now the true sex offenders are pedophiles who prey on pre-teen children and those who commit non-consensual assault. I don't think two teenagers with poor judgement , and certainly not the boy described above should be branded for life

That being said, probably 90+% of those labeled as sex offenders truly deserve it, so be careful.

I agree with you as usual. People with cognitive handicaps are often the target of people with perversion. Anyone using another body without their consent is a loser. And that includes young and naïve teens.

[graciegirl]

Puritan not applied to you but to the law and moray's.

I apologize for thinking so. This whole thing is upsetting because the problem itself, can't be solved. Society has to live with people who would harm children because society hasn't been able to find a program to make them "normal". I am not talking about people marrying young. Many of the "greatest generation, my parents generation, married younger than 18 and things worked out very well. People could generate a living without college then. It was accepted.

I think that people will be aware that the man lives there and keep in mind his past. Dr. Phil says that "the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior".

Sorry I jumped on you Ricky.

[RickeyD]

I apologize for thinking so. This whole thing is upsetting because the problem itself, can't be solved. Society has to live with people who would harm children because society hasn't been able to find a program to make them "normal". I am not talking about people marrying young. Many of the "greatest generation, my parents generation, married younger than 18 and things worked out very well. People could generate a living without college then. It was accepted.



I think that people will be aware that the man lives there and keep in mind his past. Dr. Phil says that "the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior".



Sorry I jumped on you Ricky.



My wife jumps on me all the time, I'm use to it.

[outlaw]

We are not discussing other cultures. We are discussing people who live in the United States. Your forgiveness for the sting operation is what really puzzles me. He wanted to have sexual relations with a minor. Period. If he wasn't trying to have sex with a minor, he could not have gotten sucked into a sting operation.
Your reference to looking older is just as puzzling. Jon benet Ramsey looked older. Was she fair game?
Were you a criminal defense attirney?

Jon Benet Ramsey was a 7 yo that looked maybe 7 and 1/2. I would say she was not fair game. I don't mean to sound like I am forgiving this guy. I'm just saying I don't know the specifics of the case.

[Taltarzac725]

The last thing I want to do is make any statement in defense of sex offenders, but I think we have to be careful here. I don't think the law makes enough of a distinction between various categories of offenders. There is a huge difference between an 18 year old man dating a 15 year old for a year and then having consensual sexual relations, and a 60 year old man luring a 6 year old girl into his van with a puppy. But both could be branded a sex offender for life.
For example, my son had a friend when he lived in Colorado who had a 18 year old son that was just a bit "slow". As a result, he was frequently harassed by some "bullies" in his senior class. One afternoon he was cutting across the athletic fields of the high school that was a complex shared by a middle school and elementary school. He was attacked by 6 or 7 "bullies" who stripped him of all his clothing and took his cell phone, leaving him in the middle of the field naked. There wasn't even a fig tree to grab a leaf from, so he ran towards the school looking for help. He was seen by a group of 4th grade girls who started screaming, which gained the attention of school administration and the police were called. He was arrested, convicted of a sexual offense, and sentenced to 6 months in jail and 5 years probation, as well as being listed for life as a "sex offender". This highlights one of the problems with "zero tolerance" policies. I just don't see this as a sex offense, and since "intent" seems to be a new yardstick applied to the law, I don't see intent either. If anything the true offenders were the group of boys that stripped him. BTW, he named them, but no one was interested. The police "had their man", case closed. The DA had his conviction. Case closed.

Now the true sex offenders are pedophiles who prey on pre-teen children and those who commit non-consensual assault. I don't think two teenagers with poor judgement , and certainly not the boy described above should be branded for life

That being said, probably 90+% of those labeled as sex offenders truly deserve it, so be careful.

Thanks for adding that GE. I have often found the law not only blind but also deaf and dumb in certain cases.

Context is crucial in getting fairness and that is often only allowed to the cases that have a rich defendant or some crusading lawyer involved.

Remember that I have been involved with victims' rights concerns since going into a public library in Reno, Nevada to help find something to assist my fellow Earl Wooster High School students deal with the 2-24-1976 murder of Michelle Mitchell. The daughter of our then remedial English teacher Barbara Mitchell. 2-24 is also my birthday.

Then I was a Student and then Student Attorney for Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners and worked on pieces of maybe forty prisoners' cases mainly at Minnesota Correctional Facility--Stillwater. I did make sure that I really looked into their cases as carefully as I could. Had a know-it-all prison inmate who thought he was a lawyer on occasion. Someone who had a great deal of time on their hands and access to law books. The prison lawyer though often missed the context and just went for fancy tricks pulled by previous lawyers in their law cases.

Recall has much context the lawyer in the Casey Anthony case threw at us viewers! Probably even more at the jury that we were not allowed to see for some reason or another.

[outlaw]

New Hampshire allows a 13 year old female under "special causes" YIKES !!!

We have a lot villagers from New Hampshire. YIKES!

[outlaw]

My wife jumps on me all the time, I'm use to it.

Ok, ok. TMI. Quit bragging.

[outlaw]

That kind of thinking does not belong in todays society.

Actually, we are moving toward that kind of thinking. Society is changing. And not necessarily for the better. We now have men in ladies clothes legally using the women's restroom. We now have openly active organizations that promote man/boy love (NAMBLA). Society tolerated pedophilia, or at least very young teen sexual exploitation by adults, is not far away.

[CFrance]

[QUOTE=outlaw;1300350]Actually, we are moving toward that kind of thinking. society is changing. And not necessarily for the better. We now have men in ladies clothes legally using the women's restroom. We now have openly active organizations that promote man/boy love (NAMBLA). Sociaty tolerated pedophilia, or at least very young teen sexual exploitation by adults, is not fa
We have the kkk and Nazi groups too, but that doesn't mean we're moving toward that kind of thinking. I think you are taking an extreme example and trying to make it seem normal.

[outlaw]

[QUOTE=outlaw;1300350]Actually, we are moving toward that kind of thinking. society is changing. And not necessarily for the better. We now have men in ladies clothes legally using the women's restroom. We now have openly active organizations that promote man/boy love (NAMBLA). Sociaty tolerated pedophilia, or at least very young teen sexual exploitation by adults, is not fa
We have the kkk and Nazi groups too, but that doesn't mean we're moving toward that kind of thinking. I think you are taking an extreme example and trying to make it seem normal.

I absolutely don't think NAMBLA is normal, nor transgenders. I honestly believe this is the way society is going. Not happy about it, but that's the way I see it.

[golfing eagles]

[QUOTE=CFrance;1300353]

I absolutely don't think NAMBLA is normal, nor transgenders. I honestly believe this is the way society is going. Not happy about it, but that's the way I see it.

I don't think there has been much change in these 0.02% of the population ABNORMAL groups. Unfortunately, there has been a dramatic change, mostly media driven, in how the other 99.98% of us perceived them, or even how we are PERMITTED to perceive them. I thank "ze" for your comment and now will decide how to self identify my gender today so I can pick a restroom, trashing the rights of those correctly using it

[Topspinmo]

Thousands. Most of these women I have met are happy to be in the US. This was their ticket out of extreme poverty. They are considered wealthy when they visit family in Vietnam.
US culture is different than many places such as Vietnam, where it is not unusual to marry at a very young age.

I was in military long time seen this lots of times at different bases I was stationed at. You can also add Thailand, Philippines, England, Spain, turkey, panama. I sure other branches of service can add some more.

[D Lynne]

Neuter commuter, do it one time and watch people change.

[Taltarzac725]

I don't think there has been much change in these 0.02% of the population ABNORMAL groups. Unfortunately, there has been a dramatic change, mostly media driven, in how the other 99.98% of us perceived them, or even how we are PERMITTED to perceive them. I thank "ze" for your comment and now will decide how to self identify my gender today so I can pick a restroom, trashing the rights of those correctly using it

Nice post as usual.

As far as trans-genders are concerned I doubt if many of us would even know that some person had an operation of some kind done especially if these people are now seniors. They would have had quite a number of hormone and other therapies done.

I have met some people that I am never really sure what sex they even are and sometimes their names are Ryan, Randy, Pat, Charlie, Sam, Jan, Mel, etc.

[CFrance]

Neuter commuter, do it one time and watch people change.
I seriously doubt that. Look how well the death penalty has worked

[Taltarzac725]

I seriously doubt that. Look how well the death penalty has worked

Not particularly well. Hard to deter psychopaths and paranoid schizophrenics and terrorists. If they are locked up they can only do violence to other inmates. That is also a problem but is the prison management's ordeal.

About my own obsession with the legal system there are lessons to be learned with the 2-24-1976 murder investigation in the death of Michelle Mitchell. They really messed up with this one. I am so glad that the death penalty had not been involved. Cops Framed Schizophrenic Woman as Killer Lesbian, Sending Her to Prison for 35 Years - The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/23/cops-framed-schizophrenic-woman-as-killer-lesbian-sending-her-to-prison-for-35-years.html)

[outlaw]

[QUOTE=outlaw;1300362]

I don't think there has been much change in these 0.02% of the population ABNORMAL groups. Unfortunately, there has been a dramatic change, mostly media driven, in how the other 99.98% of us perceived them, or even how we are PERMITTED to perceive them. I thank "ze" for your comment and now will decide how to self identify my gender today so I can pick a restroom, trashing the rights of those correctly using it

I agree regarding the % of pop hasn't changed. It's just now tolerated for these types to be public, and even accepted as a valid lifestyle by some.

[outlaw]

I seriously doubt that. Look how well the death penalty has worked

Pretty well. Zero recidivism rate as far as I know.

[CFrance]

Pretty well. Zero recidivism rate as far as I know.
Yet hardly preventative.

[Taltarzac725]

Pretty well. Zero recidivism rate as far as I know.

Unless you count stabbings in prison which may involve guards or even others. Often the real ugly prisoners in terms of their crimes are killed by other inmates though and it is not the death penalty people murdering again.

And then there are the innocent in prison. Does happen once in a while.

[Barefoot]

Actually, we are moving Society tolerated pedophilia, or at least very young teen sexual exploitation by adults, is not far away. I disagree with your negative outlook.
"Society tolerated pedophilia" will never happen. Sexual exploitation of young teens by adults will never be tolerated. :ohdear:

[outlaw]

I disagree with your negative outlook.
"Society tolerated pedophilia" will never happen. Sexual exploitation of young teens by adults will never be tolerated. :ohdear:

Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.

[outlaw]

Unless you count stabbings in prison which may involve guards or even others. Often the real ugly prisoners in terms of their crimes are killed by other inmates though and it is not the death penalty people murdering again.

And then there are the innocent in prison. Does happen once in a while.

I think you missed my point.

[Barefoot]

Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.

Sorry, I don't accept your theories.
Suggesting that we look up NAMBLA is like saying the KKK is openly tolerated.
There will always be scum in this world, but I do not personally believe that society will ever tolerate pedophilia.

[ColdNoMore]

Sorry, I don't accept your theories.
Suggesting that we look up NAMBLA is like saying the KKK is openly tolerated.
There will always be scum in this world, but I do not personally believe that society will ever tolerate pedophilia.

:BigApplause:...:BigApplause:

[ColdNoMore]

Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.

There is a huge difference between an organization like NAMBLA...and gays having a parade.

[RickeyD]

There is a huge difference between an organization like NAMBLA...and gays having a parade.


You sure about that ??

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[ColdNoMore]

You sure about that ??

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I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural. barf

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation (http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites//rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html)

Some conservative groups have argued that scientific research strongly supports their claims that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked. The Family Research Council has produced what is perhaps the most extensive attempt to document this claim. It is an article by Timothy J. Dailey titled Homosexuality and Child Abuse.

With 76 footnotes, many of them referring to papers in scientific journals, it appears at first glance to be a thorough and scholarly discussion of the issue. On further examination, however, its central argument – that "the evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls" – doesn't hold up.

Reflecting the results of these and other studies, as well as clinical experience, the mainstream view among researchers and professionals who work in the area of child sexual abuse is that homosexual and bisexual men do not pose any special threat to children. For example, in one review of the scientific literature, noted authority Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote:

Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so.

The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual (Groth & Gary, 1982, p. 147).


If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.


I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed. :shrug:

[graciegirl]

I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural. barf

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation (http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites//rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html)



If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.




I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed. :shrug:

Excellent post.

[Taltarzac725]

Excellent post.

I agree. ColdNoMore. Keep on posting links to credible informational resources. You may be able to change people's hearts and minds somewhat.

As long as they are consenting human adults what they do in their romantic lives should only be their own business. And you always do not chose whom you love. Often our personal history and biology and other factors come into play.

Many of the gays I met in the Twin Cities and the SF Bay area had long term and very loving personal relationships. Some did not. But the same can be said of straights that some are quite promiscuous. And some of the swinging straights do things just as strange as their gay counterparts. Think about Fifty Shades of Gray and its popularity.

[RickeyD]

I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural. barf

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation (http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites//rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html)



If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.




I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed. :shrug:



I agree with you.

[Wandatime]

I'm pretty sure a pedophile isn't just interested in the little kids one house over. He is also interested in the ones at the grocery store, pharmacy, waiting for a school bus, etc. He may not live "right next door," but he is still a danger to every little one in the entire community. I am glad we are able to pinpoint where known pedophiles live, but it might be a better course of action to keep an eagle eye on the grandchildren.

[manaboutown]

A 39 year old man,a convicted sex offender and armed robber, Jonathan David Pence, has moved in with a couple having the same last name (his parents?) in Winifred according to the online paper whose name cannot be used here.

[outlaw]

Homosexual men have a much higher rate of sexual encounters with underage boys than heterosexual men. The Catholic church is a prime example.

[CFrance]

Homosexual men have a much higher rate of sexual encounters with underage boys than heterosexual men. The Catholic church is a prime example.
Huh?

[ednetdl]

Double huh?

[graciegirl]

Homosexual men have a much higher rate of sexual encounters with underage boys than heterosexual men. The Catholic church is a prime example.

Could you explain please? Homosexual men are attracted to other men. The Catholic Church seems to be just a pot shot here.

What consenting adults do is their own business. I don't like to have pedophiles around us, because they are not capable of change. There are heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles I am sure. The Catholic Church probably has a lot of priests who are gay. I suppose there are a lot of Baptists and Lutherans that are gay too. They are born with that sexual orientation. I was born attracted to males, which is the predominant sexual inclination.

Next lesson will be on Menstruation. Good grief, don't mix biology and morals if people's behavior is not harming anyone.

[Bay Kid]

A 39 year old man,a convicted sex offender and armed robber, Jonathan David Pence, has moved in with a couple having the same last name (his parents?) in Winifred according to the online paper whose name cannot be used here.

Shame

[graciegirl]

There go the visits from the grandchildren. :sad:

The newest one was also convicted of armed robbery.

[manaboutown]

The newest one was also convicted of armed robbery.

Multiple armed robberies of gas stations and a Radio Shack.

His arrests go back at least to 2000.

[Jamespdunn45]

I know that having a predator in the neighborhood is scary. But I am also aware that prosecutors frequently unfairly prosecute cases overzealously. I know of a case when a 20 year old male was jailed for two years for having sex with a 17 year old girl. He spent 18 months in jail. Afterwards he married the girl and they have three kids 10 years later. He is still labeled a sexual predator.

Don't know anything about this individual. But labels can be misleading.

[OhioBuckeye]

REDWITCH, your comment would only be true if it isn't your daughter, granddaughter or wife that he has raped or even has communicated with. Then maybe where he's at isn't good enough! I'm just saying you my be having family visit if you lived next door to him.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Sometime I find the talk on this site disgusting.

[SALYBOW]

As I see it the only thing we have control over is allowing our grandkids near them. They can live where ever they want.

[MollyJo]

Sexual deviants/sociopath behavior generally commit crimes by 'the perfect opportunity' presenting itself. Just because a person was arrested for trying to hook up with a minor, doesn't mean he would stalk only minors... Always be aware of your surroundings, lock your doors 24/7, regularly check the offender list for your neighborhood.

[graciegirl]

Sometime I find the talk on this site disgusting.

Which argument do you object to? The ones saying they are upset he lives here, or the ones saying he needs our understanding and another chance?

[redwitch]

REDWITCH, your comment would only be true if it isn't your daughter, granddaughter or wife that he has raped or even has communicated with. Then maybe where he's at isn't good enough! I'm just saying you my be having family visit if you lived next door to him.

We don't have enough facts to call it a rape. They could have been dating and the parent pressed charges. If it was statutory rape and the girl was almost 16 rather than barely 12, I'm inclined to Not call him a sex offender or a predator and he definitely does not qualify as a predator. As I said, I'm much more concerned with the armed robberies.

As I said, I hope he has come here to turn his life around. If he hasn't, I'm sure he will break parole quickly and be right back behind bars. We can hope.

[Moonstar]

Adult communities are where sex offender can live because children do not live here. I have one that lives 5 houses from me. We have many that live here. The rec paper reminds grandparents to do a search in your area and be aware so you can set boundaries for your grandchildren.

[ColdNoMore]

Adult communities are where sex offender can live because children do not live here. I have one that lives 5 houses from me. We have many that live here. The rec paper reminds grandparents to do a search in your area and be aware so you can set boundaries for your grandchildren.

Not to mention the multitudes of those who have committed date rape (because they don't really believe 'NO MEANS NO,' regardless of when it's said )...but their victims chose not to report it to the authorities.

THOSE are the ones who don't make the list...and that we will never know about. :(

[graciegirl]

Not to mention the multitudes of those who have committed date rape (because they don't really believe 'NO MEANS NO,' regardless of when it's said )...but their victims chose not to report it to the authorities.

THOSE are the ones who don't make the list...and that we will never know about. :(

Considering that it is possible that this person could harm someone we love, it is wise to be aware and keep young people out of harms way. I personally wouldn't be interested in knowing him better.

This is kind of like the argument to allow refugees from Syria. I am on the side of being extremely cautious until more is known. We can always find reasons to be kind. That is how we were raised, most of us, as Christians and Jews, but we cannot allow our kindness to mask being cautious of someone that could harm us. We are at war with Syria. If this guy had sex with a consenting adult then he probably wouldn't be in this mess.

[SALYBOW]

being a child who was molested by a close family member in my childhood ages 9-14.. and living with the trama of those 5 years of terror and memories that affected my relationships and my marriage to this day..... I say......

He lost his rights the same day she lost her childhood....

I was in the same position and agree with you completely.

[Stdole]

I hope these individuals keep their sanity.... as all the bad things that have been said here... might just become part of their long term
notes... You had better be a believer in the 2nd Amendment and understand concealed carry, should that time ever present itself.