Hurricane Matthew

[graciegirl]

On the news it appears that Lake and Sumter and Marion counties are in the "cone" for Hurricane Andrew.

Will you leave for areas North or West or hunker down??

Looking for advice from long time Floridians.

We haven't ever been mentioned on the News before as an involved area.

[HoosierPa]

Hunker down here. Been through a few of them. Get out your raincoat !

[justjim]

We have been watching the path of Hurricane Matthew closely as we are currently in Pompano Beach on vacation. Currently we are planning to cut our vacation a couple of days short and leave for The Villages on Wednesday. Here in south Florida the media is tracking Matthew minute by minute. Currently still much speculation as to how close Matthew is coming to Florida.

Bottom line: We will "hunker down" in The Villages but leave the coast of south Florida. Personally I think The Villages is the place to be for Matthew.

[Madelaine Amee]

About 10 yrs ago a hurricane came through TV. We were owners, but not residents at that time and the only damage we had was a couple of pieces of siding came off our home.

Probably the most important thing to do is to take down awnings, if you can, they get ripped to shreds in the wind, and get all light weight lawn chairs into the home, things will fly around. We will be doing our inspection today.

If you need milk etc., do it now because you will not get into the stores when the storm is on top of us.

[lanabanana73]

I also just came to TOTV to ask the same question! I assume the biggest impact we are likely to have will be power outages. Have any of you here been through a days long power outage? If so, what will you do differently this time to prepare?

Thanks for any and all tips from "old timers"!

[Villager Joyce]

I was raised in Florida so spent time without power. The longest was five days.
Know what shelters accept pets. Many/most do not. Know which hotels accept pets in TV and within a couple hour drive in various directions.
Have water and nonperishable items. Have a filled tank for your grill. You can grill peppers, zucchini, squash, onions just to name a few.
Keep your laundry done. That sounds silly, but laundry mats are not fun.
Keep your car gas topped off.
I have not experienced a weather event in TV.

[Chatbrat]

Also, fill your tub with water--will need it to flush toilets

[pklein9747]

I was raised in Florida so spent time without power. The longest was five days.
Know what shelters accept pets. Many/most do not. Know which hotels accept pets in TV and within a couple hour drive in various directions.
Have water and nonperishable items. Have a filled tank for your grill. You can grill peppers, zucchini, squash, onions just to name a few.
Keep your laundry done. That sounds silly, but laundry mats are not fun.
Keep your car gas topped off.
I have not experienced a weather event in TV.


And keep your phone and/or other electronics charged. As of last night, WESH 2 was telling people who lived inland that there would be no reason to evacuate. However, have not heard a forecast this morning.

[Polar Bear]

Not to minimize the threat, but we're far enough inland that hunkering down should be sufficient. Potential for heavy rain and very strong winds...but the coast gets much, much worse.

[Madelaine Amee]

Blackouts ......... have never experienced one here in TV. The infrastructure is excellent and underground, so not much will happen to ours, but the surrounding towns will probably run into trouble. We have excellent retention ponds and ditches which can handle a great deal of water. The main problem is from the high winds blowing stuff around, plus tree branches may be brought down. If you are from the North you will be familiar with Northeasters and I would put our inland hurricanes in the same category.

We also have excellent support from Seco and Teco, and the support from the Villages (Developer) is amazing. I was here for the tornado which did a lot of damage and our support system went above and beyond, we were very impressed.

[asianthree]

No electricity.....Stock water, can goods that do not need heat. Box cereal works well with box milk. Overnight oatmeal is good source of any meal. Lose power up north way too much not to be prepared. Hard boil eggs can be room temp or days.

[Count'n the days]

Not while living in Florida but in Houston we evacuated twice. First time Rita changed directions and missed us completely. It was a horrible experience for those folks that got stuck in traffic trying to get away. If you plan to leave, go early. Second time was for Ike. The eye went directly over our house. It was devastating to the area. Storm surge was horrible for the coast. Almost every home had damage - especially roof damage. Power outages in some areas lasted for weeks. Traffic was a major problem due to missing or non working traffic lights. I don't think we would evacuate living this far inland.

[Villager Joyce]

nothing has been said about TV, and I'm not planning on leaving. I will, however, have my laundry done and I have a game plan. All people, especially pet owners, should have a game plan.
The information being provided is good solid information for people who have not been through a hurricane or other weather event. Knowledge is power.

[villagetinker]

When I checked last year, we were a 'shelter in place' location, therefore much of the info above is useful. As for power, yes the villages electrical system is underground and fairly well protected, however, ALL of the supplies to the villages are from ABOVE GROUND facilities, which will be subjected to the wind, rain, and possible debris from a storm. If you use a generator, make sure it is OUTDOORS, not in the house, not in the garage.
Be safe.

[Polar Bear]

nothing has been said about TV,...

Actually TV is now within the cone of the projected possible path. And Governor Scott has declared a state of emergency for Florida. I think that is saying plenty to take the storm very seriously in TV.

[Nucky]

Is it the same 'shelter in place' for the Historical Side?

[Chatbrat]

If you are in a manufactured home especially ones built before hurricane Andrew --get out of Dodge real fast, your tie downs are probable worthless

[Bogie Shooter]

Hurricane Preparedness - Be Ready (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/prepare/ready.php)
Emergency Management | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (http://sumtercountyfl.gov/718/Emergency-Management)
Lake County Hurricane Preparedness Web Guide (http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/hurricane_guide/)

[2newyorkers]

Advice from a Long Islander who has been thru many a hurricane and have been without electric for a week:

Make sure all your electronics are charged, do laundry and top off your gas tank.

Your water should not be a problem and if you have a gas stove you should be able to continue to cook. If you have a gas grill make sure you have a full tank.

Bring in all things that can blow down or around outside.

If you loose electric try to open the freezer and refrigerator as little as possible. Do not stock your freezer. Depending how long your electric is out, be prepared to cook or throw away the food in your freezer.

Put your car in the garage.

One of the biggest damages is from fallen trees.

Make sure you have a couple of flashlights ad be careful if you use candles.

After you have been without electricity for a few days the biggest problem is boredom. Board games and the company of your neighbors will help distract you.

Stay safe.

[KathieI]

I haven't been through a hurricane in probably 50+ years but have been through earthquakes, big and small. I was thinking this morning, how helpful it is to have a warning before the event happens. I can at least be ready and make a plan. Earthquakes are immediate, no time for planning, you have to do that in advance.

I plan to stay right here and hug my puppies so they won't be scared.

[Taltarzac725]

I haven't been through a hurricane in probably 50+ years but have been through earthquakes, big and small. I was thinking this morning, how helpful it is to have a warning before the event happens. I can at least be ready and make a plan. Earthquakes are immediate, no time for planning, you have to do that in advance.

I plan to stay right here and hug my puppies so they won't be scared.



Good plan KathieI.

I had a few near misses with hurricanes in Palm Harbor in 2004. Just stayed put in four of these threats -- all missed us-- as we were in a higher part of Palm Harbor. Some of Palm Harbor is quite low in elevation. It is the storm surge that is a big worry in hurricanes. That and tornadoes that are spawned.

Went through the Memorial Day 1983 mudslide at Davis Creek Park. This is in Washoe Valley between Reno and Carson City. My last day of work before heading to get a MA in Librarianship and the University of Denver. (Class of May, 1984)

The mudslide came from an avalanche hitting a mountain lake and the water from the lake coming down the mountain along with the mud and trees that were gathered while it rolled down the mountain. A mountain snowpack broke loose in the foothills of... - UPI Archives (http://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/05/30/A-mountain-snowpack-broke-loose-in-the-foothills-of/1215423115200/)

Quite a sight. I was about a mile south of the mudslide working at Bower's Mansion at the concession they had near the swimming pool where I got to watch life guards every day of a few summers. What a fun job that was. Except for the mudslide.

[tuccillo]

There continues to be some variability in the numerical model simulations from cycle to cycle - this is not at all unusual. The later cycles show a bit of a trend westward to the coastal regions but the forecasters have taken a more easterly path with the official forecast. Clearly the prudent thing to do. There is a pretty strong short wave coming from the Great Plains and the exact timing will impact the storm track. Pragmatically, we will need to wait until the 12Z run tomorrow to have a better feel for whether it will be off the coast or not. Regardless, the coastal regions of FL, GA, SC, and NC will be impacted. Landfall in SC is a real possibility. How the northeast will do is still too far out in time to have a good handle on. The latest spectral model simulation has a jog to the northeast, away from land, once it gets to the latitude of the Outer Banks (if it hangs off the coast).

I doubt there will be serious impact to The Villages. We may very well see a couple of inches of precip and 30 MPH winds out of the north are likely. Friday will not be a good golf day ;-). Kinetic energy goes as the square of the velocity so there is a big difference between 30 MPH winds and 60 MPH winds.

[Steve9930]

Been through a few of these. You could be without power for days so make sure you have a way to cook without power, Water to drink, Canned Food, plenty of ice because it sucks not being able to have a cold drink, Fill the bath tub with water so you have water to flush the toilet, batteries, weather radio, something to read to pass the time, a small generator is nice but not necessary, make sure the car has a full tank of gas, you can use the solar yard lights for light at night, I do not recommend candles, your medications, cash as credit cards are useless with no power in the area, be prepared to be on your own for a few days. If you cannot take the heat then it might be best to get out of the way of the storm. If your leaving then leave early as the roads could be jammed up. Since this area is full of seniors we are on the priority list to get power restored. Good luck and enjoy mother nature. It will actually be raining sideways.

[Taltarzac725]

Been through a few of these. You could be without power for days so make sure you have a way to cook without power, Water to drink, Canned Food, plenty of ice because it sucks not being able to have a cold drink, Fill the bath tub with water so you have water to flush the toilet, batteries, weather radio, something to read to pass the time, a small generator is nice but not necessary, make sure the car has a full tank of gas, you can use the solar yard lights for light at night, I do not recommend candles, your medications, cash as credit cards are useless with no power in the area, be prepared to be on your own for a few days. If you cannot take the heat then it might be best to get out of the way of the storm. If your leaving then leave early as the roads could be jammed up. Since this area is full of seniors we are on the priority list to get power restored. Good luck and enjoy mother nature. It will actually be raining sideways.

Did see some of that sideways rain in Palm Harbor, FL in 2004. Very noisy too.

[PennBF]

We lived on the beach for many years and went through 3 pretty serious Hurricanes. The Villages are so much better with the power buried under ground. BUT a major problem may be with all of the homeowners with pots of flowers outside, big umbrella's in stands outside.These can be real missles in big winds. We are making sure anything that can be a flying item is put in the garage or in the house. If you get flood water in the house "Serv-Pro" are good at handling that problem. Where we are I think flying objects are the most threat. :mornincoffee:

[Harry Gilbert]

It would not be a bad idea to pick up a portable battery charger for your cell phone. They can be bought at walmart's best buy and other places. If fully charged you can charge a cell phone or tablet 3 or more times depending on what size charger you get. Just make sure to charge the charger before the power goes out.

For informational purposes:
30 Best Portable Battery Chargers | Android, iPhone, or iPad | Digital Trends (http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/best-portable-battery-chargers/)

[mark47]

I've been in Florida 22 years and have always been advised to run. A friend of mine is an ex Navy Seal who rode out Charlie. He said he was never so afraid in his life. This guy did some tough duty in Viet Nam. Also I go into areas hit and you can't believe the damages.

If you stay have at least 3 days of food and water and be prepared for days or weeks of no power. You will also need cash because no power means no credit cards or gas pumps. Best of luck!

[twoplanekid]

I may delay my flight a day or two from Ohio to Florida as my J-3 Piper Cub would never make it to the center of Matthew to enjoy the calmer winds. :smiley:

[graciegirl]

Is it the same 'shelter in place' for the Historical Side?

Our house is always available for you two and Barney.

[njbchbum]

For the refrigerator - freeze some small bottles of water or other containers to be used to cool the frige compartment despite not opening it often.

For those with a gas grill - plan a cook-out with neighbors if food starts to turn.

For the laptop/cell phone - get a car adapter that can be used for charging devices where an on-board port is available in the car or golf cart.

For those who suffer from lack of air-conditioning - freeze a few bandanas or handkerchiefs so they can be placed on the back of the neck for a cool down. The car can also be used for a short-term break from the heat.

And despite any shelters that may open [or not], facilities such as the hospital or police station will be operating on emergency back-up power and I have never know anyone suffering from lack of air conditioning to be denied a respite there if they have it.

Above all - if you have to drive during a power outage - PLEASE be especially careful when approaching traffic lights and signs - just in case the other drivers are not!

[Arctic Fox]

I've been in Florida 22 years and have always been advised to run.

There is a huge difference between being on the coast and being as far inland as is TV.

Chances are, there would be far more injuries from 50,000 people fleeing TV than from them all staying put, having taken the precautions advised in the posts above.

[Nucky]

Our house is always available for you two and Barney.

Thanks Mrs. Gracie a friend in need is a friend indeed. What a beautiful offer. We will talk to you on Wednesday morning. I was thinking about Margaritaville Resort Casino in Louisiana for a couple of days but have to run that past the high command. Bless You.

[2newyorkers]

I forgot to say make/have ice.

[PennBF]

After being through some serious hurricanes I don't think the villages is exposed to anything near the beaches or some places US1. The basics make sense, (e,g, some food, water, batteries,) but not necessary to panic. The main problem would be wind and therefore maybe some tree damage? It took us more than 2 years to recover from the hurricanes we had on the coast, wind blowing sand was a serious problem and wind on the upper floors. Completely blew away the club house, flooded the pool with sand, there were 2 9 story buildings and all first floors had sand to the ceiling. First floors had "flood insurance" while the 2nd to 9th floor had wind Ins and damages. I was President of the Condo Association and had the responsibility to see the damage repaired and to restore the Club House and parking lot and lights. Also replenish the sand that was lost on the beach. I don't see this damage in the Villages but could see some heavy wind damage if it comes too close. In the end it cost almost $3M to get all back to good condition. This hurricane looks like it could bring some serious damage to where we use to live and hopefully I am wrong. :cold:

[CFrance]

For the refrigerator - freeze some small bottles of water or other containers to be used to cool the frige compartment despite not opening it often.

For those with a gas grill - plan a cook-out with neighbors if food starts to turn.

For the laptop/cell phone - get a car adapter that can be used for charging devices where an on-board port is available in the car or golf cart.

For those who suffer from lack of air-conditioning - freeze a few bandanas or handkerchiefs so they can be placed on the back of the neck for a cool down. The car can also be used for a short-term break from the heat.

And despite any shelters that may open [or not], facilities such as the hospital or police station will be operating on emergency back-up power and I have never know anyone suffering from lack of air conditioning to be denied a respite there if they have it.

Above all - if you have to drive during a power outage - PLEASE be especially careful when approaching traffic lights and signs - just in case the other drivers are not!
Using the car to charge things is an especially good idea. Which leads to the suggestion... fill all cars up with gas.

[tuccillo]

Today's 12Z spectral model run shows Matthew hugging the coast from West Palm to the Outer Banks and then moving out into the Atlantic to eventually pass just east of Nova Scotia. The total simulated precip for our area remains relatively light. There will be considerable northerly winds on friday - I would still estimate around 30 MPH sustained. I suspect the real storm track may be further east than the model is simulating.

[graciegirl]

Today's 12Z spectral model run shows Matthew hugging the coast from West Palm to the Outer Banks and then moving out into the Atlantic to eventually pass just east of Nova Scotia. The total simulated precip for our area remains relatively light. There will be considerable northerly winds on friday - I would still estimate around 30 MPH sustained. I suspect the real storm track may be further east than the model is simulating.

From your lips to God's ears.

All of these posts have been very helpful. I hope that all of Florida escapes without too much damage and no deaths. As the Governor says "Homes and businesses can be rebuilt" but the loss of life is not fixable.

[Daddymac]

Storm

[Daddymac]

"Storm

[obxgal]

Having lived in the Outer Banks for for 15 years before moving down here we'll hunker down. Been through a few of them.
Already have full tank of gas in car and golf cart plus cash on hand. Just have to bring in patio furniture.
Daughter and grand kids still in the Outer Banks and we're planning on moving back up there.

[ttown]

Curious. Since our water comes gravity fed from water towers,why stock up?

[ColdNoMore]

Curious. Since our water comes gravity fed from water towers,why stock up?
In case the juice goes out.

Pumps use electricity and are needed to maintain line pressure, as just gravity can't do it.




(You were just kidding...right?)

[ttown]

Thanks. Makes sense.

[Matzy]

We (my wife and me) survived 6 times hurricanes in Southern Florida without any problems. The worst thing happens to us was when we were out of power for 7 days. No way to save frozen stuff or keep the fridge cool. National Guard delivered ice and water to certain points for pick up, but to get there you have to have a full tank of gas. No gas station was working without power, no water because the pumps had no power.

I don't think that we'll have such problems in TV, but just get prepared (well, just in case). What you should have and do, there is a list online available or you can get it at all government places, Pinellas Place (library) should have it, too.

[tuccillo]

The Villages will most likely be fine. The coastal regions of FL, GA, SC, NC, and southeastern VA, not so much. With a little good fortune, the actual track will be east of the numerical models. We will have a much better handle on things around 1 PM tomorrow.

From your lips to God's ears.

All of these posts have been very helpful. I hope that all of Florida escapes without too much damage and no deaths. As the Governor says "Homes and businesses can be rebuilt" but the loss of life is not fixable.

[golf2140]

we were here for 2004 / 2005 hurricanes and we never lost power. Let's hope it turn to the east.

[Junebugs]

We are trying to decide whether it would be better to drive to TV or stay here in South Florida. We are near Ft. Lauderdale about 7 miles from the ocean. The latest maps from National Hurricane Center (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov) shows the hurricane is about the same distance from both locations. Ten years ago, when Wilma hit, we were without power for two weeks. I am wondering which location is most likely to have power and suffer less damage.

[Junebugs]

What are the local news stations saying about the storm?

[njbchbum]

What are the local news stations saying about the storm?

Perhaps you can follow local information here:
Emergency Management | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (http://sumtercountyfl.gov/718/Emergency-Management)
or here:
Sumter County Sheriff's Office-Florida | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/scsoflorida/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf)

Lake County:
facebook Sheriff's Office: Sumter County Sheriff's Office-Florida | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/scsoflorida/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf#!/LakeCountySO/)

facebook Emergency Management: Sumter County Sheriff's Office-Florida | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/scsoflorida/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf#!/LakeCountyFLEmergencyManagement/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf)

Marion County:
facebook Sheriff's Office: Sumter County Sheriff's Office-Florida | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/scsoflorida/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf#!/mcsoflorida/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf)

facebook Emergency Management: https://www.facebook.com/scsoflorida/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf#!/search/top/?q=marion%20County%20Florida%20Emergency%20Managem ent

[Daddymac]

Fill your bathtub with water, you can bucket it for the toilet. And wash up,!!!

[Junebugs]

Thank you for the websites that you posted!

[Madelaine Amee]

Filling a tub with water is simple. Making ice is simple. Charging your devices? simple. Buying gas? It will be used.

I don't see drama, I see common sense preparation.:wave:

Yes, believe in being prepared, after all easy to just empty the water out of the tub after the storm has gone through. But, I believe much of this mentality has been caused in the past by the media who get hyped up, frightening people, then the thing blows away.

On the other hand, remember Katrina, nobody took any notice of that and the result was disastrous.

[PennBF]

Stay off the roads as much as possible so the ones leaving the beach are not blocked (been there and had that happen when getting off barrier island home). Batteries, water, everything inside, a little extra food and radio. It warns we may get 50+ mile an hour winds which would be annoying but not a big problem. Because of the extraordinary drainage in The Villages we should be fine. Also the great underground wires are terrific. Lucky the Developer was smart enough to make these a part of our life. If you want "drama" go to the shore and watch the real problems arise.:cold:

[Taltarzac725]

Stay off the roads as much as possible so the ones leaving the beach are not blocked (been there and had that happen when getting off barrier island home). Batteries, water, everything inside, a little extra food and radio. It warns we may get 50+ mile an hour winds which would be annoying but not a big problem. Because of the extraordinary drainage in The Villages we should be fine. Also the great underground wires are terrific. Lucky the Developer was smart enough to make these a part of our life. If you want "drama" go to the shore and watch the real problems arise.:cold:

Cliche time-- hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Water bottles or jugs, gas in cars and carts, non-perishable food stocked up, important papers put in safe spot like bank, debris on lawn removed, candles and flashlights + extra batteries, etc.

[kstew43]

make sure you have green paper money for if the power goes out...


another south FLA trick.....keep all your important things in your dishwasher.

[tuccillo]

Last night's 6Z spectral model run suggested a slightly more westward track but other models suggested otherwise. The latest wind estimates have us at about a 50% chance of seeing sustained winds over 39 MPH. There is a 15% chance of seeing sustained winds over 58 MPH. The latest runs suggests 2-3 inches of rain. The latest forecast from the Hurricane Center has it tracking northwest off the FL coast and then tracking nearly straight east away from land once it reaches the latitude of SC. Todays 12Z runs, which put us within a 48 hour window, should help to solidify what will happen.

[Yung Dum]

Does anybody know of an animal shelter that will take in small goats? I have a friend on Merritt Island who has to evacuate and needs a place for her 2 pet goats. Please PM me if anyone knows of such a place. Thank you.

[njbchbum]

FWIW.....Read this morning that WDW is relocating guests from Ft WIlderness area to other campus hotels!

[Chatbrat]

Just passed a house that has to be owned by one of the most oblivious residents in the villages- with a storm looming, why would anyone install a massive hollowed display on their lawn-ropes & decorations strung from the roof, tombstones on the lawn

hope some of their stuff doesn't become a missile

[RickeyD]

Just passed a house that has to be owned by one of the most oblivious residents in the villages- with a storm looming, why would anyone install a massive hollowed display on their lawn-ropes & decorations strung from the roof, tombstones on the lawn

hope some of their stuff doesn't become a missile



Knock on his door and show him your wisdom.

[Villageswimmer]

Is there danger in taking a propane tank from the grill into the hot garage?

[golfing eagles]

Is there danger in taking a propane tank from the grill into the hot garage?

see attachment. Storage in an area of over 120 F is NOT recommended

[Henryk]

Is there danger in taking a propane tank from the grill into the hot garage?

I would never advise bringing a propane tank ANYWHERE indoors.

[Villageswimmer]

I would never advise bringing a propane tank ANYWHERE indoors.


Ok, but what alternatives are there to avoid it becoming a missile? What are y'all doing with yours? Thanks.

[RickeyD]

Is there danger in taking a propane tank from the grill into the hot garage?



Never ever put a charged propane tank anywhere within a structure.

[photo1902]

Ok, but what alternatives are there to avoid it becoming a missile? What are y'all doing with yours? Thanks.

Ive kept mine in the garage for many years. Never had a problem. For the 120 plus rule, what do you think the temp is in the compartment where the storage tank is located on the grill, considering the metal and in most cases a black cover. I'd be willing to bet its much higher than that.

[RickeyD]

Ok, but what alternatives are there to avoid it becoming a missile? What are y'all doing with yours? Thanks.



Bury it.

[Susi1356]

What's the best up-to-the-minute source of information regarding cancellation of TV scheduled activities, rec center closures, etc., in advance of and during a major storm? I'm sure the Daily Sun will publish whatever they have as of publication for tomorrow, but the developer's web site doesn't seem to have an intuitive space for this type of information. I have the Villages app, but that doesn't even include all recreation activities yet so am not sure how situation-responsive it can be.

Is there another web site for cancellations? Thanks.

[Ecuadog]

I would never advise bringing a propane tank ANYWHERE indoors.Ok, but what alternatives are there to avoid it becoming a missile? What are y'all doing with yours? Thanks.Bury it.

Yeah, but I can never remember where I buried them.

[Bjeanj]

What's the best up-to-the-minute source of information regarding cancellation of TV scheduled activities, rec center closures, etc., in advance of and during a major storm? I'm sure the Daily Sun will publish whatever they have as of publication for tomorrow, but the developer's web site doesn't seem to have an intuitive space for this type of information. I have the Villages app, but that doesn't even include all recreation activities yet so am not sure how situation-responsive it can be.

Is there another web site for cancellations? Thanks.

The online Daily Sun is publishing the cancellations.

[Villageswimmer]

Bury it.


Very funny.

I asked because our son, an engineer, told us not to put it inside. Air circulation as well as temperature CAN lead to explosion.

[Villageswimmer]

BTW, ever notice Home Depot doesn't store theirs outside?

[villagetinker]

I will move our grill to an inside sheltered corner of the lanai, and make sure all valves are in the off position. All furniture in the birdcage will be moved inside. And I will add 1 or 2 try down straps to the cover of the hot tub just to make sure the cover does not take off.

[RickeyD]

Very funny.



I asked because our son, an engineer, told us not to put it inside. Air circulation as well as temperature CAN lead to explosion.



I was being serious. 4 to 5 shovelfuls should be enough to shelter it. Think "foxhole"

[Chatbrat]

Back in Nj in Chatham Twp, a car caught on fire in a garage & 2 -propane tanks exploded & leveled the house. Never put any 20 lb tank inside any occupied dwelling.

[golfing eagles]

Yeah, but I can never remember where I buried them.

Have your dog bury it---they always remember:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[justjim]

We are trying to decide whether it would be better to drive to TV or stay here in South Florida. We are near Ft. Lauderdale about 7 miles from the ocean. The latest maps from National Hurricane Center (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov) shows the hurricane is about the same distance from both locations. Ten years ago, when Wilma hit, we were without power for two weeks. I am wondering which location is most likely to have power and suffer less damage.

We drove from Pompano Beach, via the Turnpike this morning, arriving in TV about noon. No problems and "average" traffic. If you haven't left yet, I would consider leaving for TV ASAP. It will be safer in TV than the east coast of Florida IMHO.

[dirtbanker]

The online Daily Sun is publishing the cancellations.

Has happy hour been cancelled?

[Carl in Tampa]

First, to Gracie. Barbara decided, and I agreed, that she will be fine remaining in The Villages through the hurricane. She has a friend who lives closer to the Atlantic coast who is going to relocate to be with her. I am confident that she will be safe. That should indicate my confidence in the concept of "hunkering down" in The Villages.

Next, to the inquiry about remaining in Ft. Lauderdale or coming to The Villages. I would come to The Villages.

Regarding the Old Section. I would not sit out the hurricane in a manufactured (or mobile) home.

Regarding propane tanks. I have kept filled propane tanks in my garage, year around, since 1974, but advise other people to do whatever they are comfortable with.

Regarding flying a J-3 in a hurricane. It might be interesting. You could fly backwards with reference to the ground. Careful about Vo. :wave:

This thread is filled with good advice. I don't think I have anything significant to add.

Everyone stay safe.

[billethkid]

Keep your phones and other communicating devices fully charged.

A side effect of the hurricanes proximity is the potential for severe weather and tornadoes.

KNOW where you will go if ever needed. (at home)

[Bogie Shooter]

What's the best up-to-the-minute source of information regarding cancellation of TV scheduled activities, rec center closures, etc., in advance of and during a major storm? I'm sure the Daily Sun will publish whatever they have as of publication for tomorrow, but the developer's web site doesn't seem to have an intuitive space for this type of information. I have the Villages app, but that doesn't even include all recreation activities yet so am not sure how situation-responsive it can be.

Is there another web site for cancellations? Thanks.

e-Notification
Subject: Administrative Message - Special Notification to All Newsletter Subscribers
Date: 10/5/2016
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Severe Weather Closures and Information
For the safety, health and welfare of District staff and residents of The Villages, there will be several closures on Friday, October 7, 2016 due to the anticipated severe weather caused by Hurricane Matthew.* Please note that all of these closures are subject to change based on updated weather reports.
�******** The District Customer Service Center and all District Administrative offices will be closed on Friday.* This closure impacts Customer Service, Administration, Recreation, Community Watch Administration, Finance, Community Standards, Human Resources and all other District departments.
�******** All outdoor Recreation Facilities, including swimming pools, will close by 6:00pm on Thursday and will remain closed all day Friday.* They will not re-open until it has been determined that the area and facility is safe for operation by The Villages Public Safety Department or other appropriate agencies.*
�******** All Recreation Centers will close at 10:00pm on Thursday and will remain closed through Friday.
�******** All Executive Golf Courses will be closed on Friday.
�******** Due to the prediction of strong winds, all gate arms in the community will be removed by 6:00pm on Thursday.* While the gate arms are removed, please use extreme caution when traveling through or around the gates.* When conditions improve, the gate arms will be replaced to normal operations.
Please continue to visit Village Community Development Districts (http://www.DistrictGov.org) for additional updates.* We will continue to post additional updates and send E-Notifications as information becomes available.*
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[Yung Dum]

I just did my hurricane supply shopping at Publix. I picked up a jar of maraschino cherries, some birdseed, a package of hearing aid batteries, a Shamwow, a happy birthday balloon, and a pack of gum. That was about all they had left. Maybe I waited too long. Gotta go now. I’m going to fill up the gas tank.

[Villager Joyce]

I just did my hurricane supply shopping at Publix. I picked up a jar of maraschino cherries, some birdseed, a package of hearing aid batteries, a Shamwow, a happy birthday balloon, and a pack of gum. That was about all they had left. Maybe I waited too long. Gotta go now. I�m going to fill up the gas tank.

Best post, maybe ever.

[Junebugs]

We shuttered up the house in Ft. Lauderdale and drove up here tonight. We left at 8:15pm and arrived here at 12:15am. The traffic was steady but not too heavy. We noticed over 100 utility trucks heading south on the Turnpike tonight. We hope that everyone in South Florida and throughout the state are safe from this storm.

[Junebugs]

Has happy hour been cancelled?

Happy Hour is NEVER canceled!!! :MOJE_whot:

[DougB]

I drove my wife to our home in The Villages tonight then turned around and drove myself back to Brevard. I will be riding Matthew out in Melbourne.

[Taltarzac725]

I drove my wife to our home in The Villages tonight then turned around and drove myself back to Brevard. I will be riding Matthew out in Melbourne.

Good luck down there.

[Fraugoofy]

I drove my wife to our home in The Villages tonight then turned around and drove myself back to Brevard. I will be riding Matthew out in Melbourne.
Please be safe, dougb!

Sent from my SM-N910R4 using Tapatalk

[Chatbrat]

Please do not ride out any storm--if you do- remember -emergency services will not be available until the storm goes away--people who rode out Andrew-gave lots of evidence why you should never ride out any storm.

The officers club @ Patrick AFB was blown into the Atlantic--Melbourne is way to close to be near a Cat 4 hurricane.

Do NOT MESS WITH A HURRICANE--if your house was built prior to 95'--it may not be standing

[Taltarzac725]

I just did my hurricane supply shopping at Publix. I picked up a jar of maraschino cherries, some birdseed, a package of hearing aid batteries, a Shamwow, a happy birthday balloon, and a pack of gum. That was about all they had left. Maybe I waited too long. Gotta go now. I�m going to fill up the gas tank.

That is a great post. Thanks for the smile I got from that.

[RickeyD]

Please do not ride out any storm--if you do- remember -emergency services will not be available until the storm goes away--people who rode out Andrew-gave lots of evidence why you should never ride out any storm.

The officers club @ Patrick AFB was blown into the Atlantic--Melbourne is way to close to be near a Cat 4 hurricane.

Do NOT MESS WITH A HURRICANE--if your house was built prior to 95'--it may not be standing



Men do what men do and they always will.

[Chatbrat]

Just check the winds for Melbourne-estimate to have 120mph--tie a tag on your foot and write on your body with a marker how to contact next of kin--remember Harry Truman who rode out MT. St.Helens--Get out of Dodge a pound of water weights close to 8 lbs imagine a ton of water flying @120 mph--no house will survive that kind of hammer

Men care about their loved ones more than property & toys

There are old sailors, there are bold sailors--there are very few old bold sailors--the crew of the El Faro, are proof of this

We were stuck in Nassau for 30 days because there was no weather window for a safe return to Fl., when we lived on our boat.

[golfing eagles]

I drove my wife to our home in The Villages tonight then turned around and drove myself back to Brevard. I will be riding Matthew out in Melbourne.

None of my business, but WHY?????
The coastal and low lying areas are under a mandatory evacuation, you might be confronted with all lanes one way headed inland.
Even if you have a collection of Picassos there, you won't be able to save them
Regardless, be safe and good luck

[Greg Nelson]

My brother lives in Melbourne but is in Switzerland right now..I'm sure his native wife is worried..

[mark47]

Keeping phones charged is very good advise. My experience is that they won't work anyway if the towers are blown down

[jimbo2012]

Going to startup and check our motor home, it has generator, propane water etc.

I can park in front of my house, hot wire the house off the genny if needed.

Most of the wind should come from the north here in TV so think about that, expect gusts to 60, you really can't stand up in winds over 70, ask why I know.

All in all we should all be fine unless the eye drifts west

[Allegiance]

Going to startup and check our motor home, it has generator, propane water etc.

I can park in front of my house, hot wire the house off the genny if needed.

Most of the wind should come from the north here in TV so think about that, expect gusts to 60, you really can't stand up in winds over 70, ask why I know.

All in all we should all be fine unless the eye drifts west
How do you know? ;)

[PennBF]

I read of those who are planning to "ride it out". We lived on a barrier island through 3 hurricanes and is why we now live in the Villages. Friends of ours decided to ride out their condo on the 11th floor of a 17 floor condo. At the height they hid in the closet and the clothes moved from one side to the other in their 11th floor. When the eye hit they ran as fast as they could to get away. In our condo which was 9 floors one unit owner tried to ride one out and he said how scared he was and again ran as fast as he could when the eye of the hurricane arrived. What they think is "Macho" now will come to reality when they get in the line of the hurricane. When windows start to blow out, the building starts to rock, water starts to come in, etc. it is no longer a "fun ride". Oh well, there is one born everyday. :ho:

[golfing eagles]

I read of those who are planning to "ride it out". We lived on a barrier island through 3 hurricanes and is why we now live in the Villages. Friends of ours decided to ride out their condo on the 11th floor of a 17 floor condo. At the height they hid in the closet and the clothes moved from one side to the other in their 11th floor. When the eye hit they ran as fast as they could to get away. In our condo which was 9 floors one unit owner tried to ride one out and he said how scared he was and again ran as fast as he could when the eye of the hurricane arrived. What they think is "Macho" now will come to reality when they get in the line of the hurricane. When windows start to blow out, the building starts to rock, water starts to come in, etc. it is no longer a "fun ride". Oh well, there is one born everyday. :ho:


The Weather channel interviewed 3 people who live on the ocean in Cocoa Beach and plan to "ride it out".
The first said all her neighbors always ride it out and have a big party, so she plans on drinking all day
The second said he saw a bunch of utility trucks on the road, so he knows it will be OK because the state is "prepared"
The third rocket scientist said the gulf stream is offshore and he knows that it will pull Matthew out to sea! (must have majored in meteorology)

Momma always said, "Stupid is as stupid does"

[PammyJ]

I evacuated from Melbourne to TV with my mother. My hubby, DougB is in our Melbourne home to help minimize damage as it happens. Last set of hurricanes our roof caved on one side of the house. If we hadn't been there to have something catch the water coming in, we would have had greater damage. I don't like being away from him during this time. I have never seen a hurricane over Cat 2, and that is devastating. I'm praying for my Brevard family, my children and grandchildren are all there. The worst is the aftermath. I think we will be OK here.

[Chatbrat]

Remember the picture of a couple walking down the street in New Orleans, they were carrying a carton with liquor ,chips, etc--they were on their way to a Katrina party--wonder if they enjoyed their stay in the super dome

[ajbrown]

My wife just went to deposit a check into BOA on 466. She could not, bank is closed someone working there said they were out of money. Good grief people... :shocked:

[ColdNoMore]

I just did my hurricane supply shopping at Publix. I picked up a jar of maraschino cherries, some birdseed, a package of hearing aid batteries, a Shamwow, a happy birthday balloon, and a pack of gum. That was about all they had left. Maybe I waited too long. Gotta go now. I�m going to fill up the gas tank.

EPIC! :1rotfl:

[NYGUY]

....If we hadn't been there to have something catch the water coming in, we would have had greater damage....

That is what insurance is for, not husbands!!

[justjim]

That is what insurance is for, not husbands!!

A good comment.

[graciegirl]

Henry is right now on the roof attaching a one iron to the top elevation.

And you all know why.

[golfing eagles]

A good comment.

Agree. I think if I owned a house that already had a roof collapse in a storm, I wouldn't stay there in the most powerful hurricane to EVER hit above Palm Beach, lest I was standing under the next collapse.

[Polar Bear]

henry is right now on the roof attaching a one iron to the top elevation.



And you all know why.

lol!!! :) :)

[Bjeanj]

Drove by Publix in Southern Trace about 9:30 this morning. I have NEVER seen all the parking spaces taken until today! Also went by Shell station there and it was packed. The Shell station a few blocks west of there had almost no one there; don't know if they were out of gas.

Reminds me of the blizzards we had up north. Made me (sort of) nostalgic.

[Taltarzac725]

Drove by Publix in Southern Trace about 9:30 this morning. I have NEVER seen all the parking spaces taken until today! Also went by Shell station there and it was packed. The Shell station a few blocks west of there had almost no one there; don't know if they were out of gas.

Reminds me of the blizzards we had up north. Made me (sort of) nostalgic.

Do not miss the blizzards in Colorado or Minnesota or even Nevada.

We moved from the Gold Coast Area of FL partly because of all the hurricane threats in 2004 in Palm Harbor, FL.

[buzzy]

Going to startup and check our motor home, it has generator, propane water etc.

I can park in front of my house, hot wire the house off the genny if needed.



Just returned from a trip. All systems operational. Hope the tin roof at Cover-All Storage holds.

[Jazzcat]

Henry is right now on the roof attaching a one iron to the top elevation.

And you all know why.

OMG! We are moving to TV next month. Hoping that you all come through without any serious or long term damage. You are in our thoughts and prayers!

[socrafty]

I drove my wife to our home in The Villages tonight then turned around and drove myself back to Brevard. I will be riding Matthew out in Melbourne.

Good luck to you! Both my brothers are in Palm Bay and on call, will be praying for all of you!

[Carl in Tampa]

I drove my wife to our home in The Villages tonight then turned around and drove myself back to Brevard. I will be riding Matthew out in Melbourne.

You will probably be safe from the storm surge. After all, Melbourne is at 19 feet above sea level and the storm surge is only predicted to be about 10 feet above normal high tide. Depends on how close your house is to the shore.

On the other hand, it is supposed to still be a Category 4 storm when it hits Melbourne. That means winds as high as 155 MPH. Right now they are seeing gusts up to 165 MPH. It is almost certain that your house was not built to withstand such winds. Even the houses in The Villages are only built to handle Category 2 storms.

And you are going down there to "protect" your house from damage?

I can't imagine the level of apprehension you are subjecting your wife to, and the personal risk you are taking to place yourself somewhere where your presence will be ineffectual at best.

But, it's none of my business. :sigh:

[jimbo2012]

to place yourself somewhere where your presence will be ineffectual at best.



well said

[Shimpy]

Also, fill your tub with water--will need it to flush toilets

Or take a bucket or two down to a nearby pond and fill it and bring it home for flushes.

[Yung Dum]

I just heard that thunder is very rare in a hurricane and if you hear it, there's a good chance it's a tornado. Be safe.

[DougB]

OK, now it's a cat 4. Gonna get out of Dodge and head back to TV!

[Villageswimmer]

OK, now it's a cat 4. Gonna get out of Dodge and head back to TV!


Smart move. God bless you.

[DonH57]

OK, now it's a cat 4. Gonna get out of Dodge and head back to TV!

Glad to hear that. Drive safe my friend!:MOJE_whot:

[PammyJ]

That is what insurance is for, not husbands!!

I agree, he came back to TV... Yay!

[PammyJ]

Please do not ride out any storm--if you do- remember -emergency services will not be available until the storm goes away--people who rode out Andrew-gave lots of evidence why you should never ride out any storm.

The officers club @ Patrick AFB was blown into the Atlantic--Melbourne is way to close to be near a Cat 4 hurricane.

Do NOT MESS WITH A HURRICANE--if your house was built prior to 95'--it may not be standing

My recollection of The Officers Club was that a fire burned it to the ground many years ago.

[DonH57]

I just heard that thunder is very rare in a hurricane and if you hear it, there's a good chance it's a tornado. Be safe.

I thought I heard thunder too but it was plane. Maybe one of the last flights coming into orlando before it closes.

[CFrance]

OK, now it's a cat 4. Gonna get out of Dodge and head back to TV!

Yay! Safe travels.

[village dreamer]

how many of you know how to get your car out of your garage w//out power??? you have to pull the rope and lift the garage door by hand. some may not be able to do this ??

[jimbo2012]

how many of you know how to get your car out of your garage w//out power??? you have to pull the rope and lift the garage door by hand. some may not be able to do this ??

Putting a car in garage is not exactly emergency ready to leave.

Do you think your car can't take 75-125 mile an hour wind?

it can go that fast on road?

My cars are in the driveway backed in ready to go.


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[DougB]

I agree, he came back to TV... Yay!

At least our son was there to help board all the windows. Tried to get him to com to TV but he headed to Tampa.

[NoMoSno]

My cars are in the driveway backed in ready to go.



Where ya gonna go?....

[patfla06]

the weather channel interviewed 3 people who live on the ocean in cocoa beach and plan to "ride it out".
The first said all her neighbors always ride it out and have a big party, so she plans on drinking all day
the second said he saw a bunch of utility trucks on the road, so he knows it will be ok because the state is "prepared"
the third rocket scientist said the gulf stream is offshore and he knows that it will pull matthew out to sea! (must have majored in meteorology)

momma always said, "stupid is as stupid does"

Hilarious!

[capecoralbill]

Don't forget to turn your sprinklers off.

[ColdNoMore]

Putting a car in garage is not exactly emergency ready to leave.

Do you think your car can't take 75-125 mile an hour wind?

it can go that fast on road?

My cars are in the driveway backed in ready to go.


I personally prefer to keep my auto in the garage and then lift the door manually if necessary, rather than take a chance of it getting beat by flying shingles, palm branches and/or other projectiles. :shrug:

As of right now, I'm only seeing a forecast of winds up to 45 mph here in TV...so debris would be the issue more than a structure failure to me.

[Chatbrat]

Good move Doug, but you missed your chance for the Darwin award--don't worry someone else will grab it before Matthew is gone

[Matzy]

I think we'll not have a huge problem in TV with this hurricane except a possible huge rain and outage of power by broken transmission lines. But that can impact almost all things, light, A/C, water, gas, internet, cellphone, banks, etc. We'll know more in the next 6-8 hours. Stay safe!!

[NYGUY]

I agree, he came back to TV... Yay!

A good move..:coolsmiley:

[Junebugs]

OK, now it's a cat 4. Gonna get out of Dodge and head back to TV!

Glad to hear you are coming home!!! Stay safe!

[Carl in Tampa]

OK, now it's a cat 4. Gonna get out of Dodge and head back to TV!

:coolsmiley:............:beer3:

[tomwed]

I personally prefer to keep my auto in the garage and then lift the door manually if necessary, rather than take a chance of it getting beat by flying shingles, palm branches and/or other projectiles. :shrug:

As of right now, I'm only seeing a forecast of winds up to 45 mph here in TV...so debris would be the issue more than a structure failure to me.I have not opened my garage without the electric garage door opener. Do I just pull the orange handle attached to a rope and pull back? Or does that disengage the opener and after pulling the orange handle I lift the door.

[kittygilchrist]

Matthew is shifting east!

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

Just pull the cord which will disengage the the opener. Then just lift up the door. If the spring tension is proper, they open very easily.

[tomwed]

Just pull the cord which will disengage the the opener. Then just lift up the door. If the spring tension is proper, they open very easily.
thank-you---

[ColdNoMore]

I have not opened my garage without the electric garage door opener. Do I just pull the orange handle attached to a rope and pull back? Or does that disengage the opener and after pulling the orange handle I lift the door.

Just pull the cord which will disengage the the opener. Then just lift up the door. If the spring tension is proper, they open very easily.


What he said. :agree:

Just make sure when you pull the orange handle, pull back on it a little so it stays in the disengaged position and doesn't drop back in 'the slot.'



Another word of caution is that when you're letting it down manually, make sure you lower it slowly.

If not and you just let it drop from waist height or higher, it can slam down and bend some of the panels...and will then look like you drove into it. :oops:

I learned this the hard way about 20 years ago. :(

[graciegirl]

So far. So good here off 466. Grateful.

[rjm1cc]

On the news it appears that Lake and Sumter and Marion counties are in the "cone" for Hurricane Andrew.

Will you leave for areas North or West or hunker down??

Looking for advice from long time Floridians.

We haven't ever been mentioned on the News before as an involved area.

Living in a well constructed home that is not prone to flooding and being able to survive without electric for a few days means you can stay put since you life in the central part of the state.

[ColdNoMore]

Living in a well constructed home that is not prone to flooding and being able to survive without electric for a few days means you can stay put since you life in the central part of the state.

Exactly. :thumbup:

Taking a quick drive around a little while ago, I didn't even see a house that lost any shingles.

The biggest issue/problem that I noticed, is that there will be a lot of picking up of Spanish Moss and palm fronds off of the roadways. :shrug: