Overseeding?

[er9027]

I see on the Golfthevillages.com it has the overseeding schedule. It also says they will only be overseeding tees and greens. My understanding in the past is, the fairways on the Championship courses have been overseeded with rye. Is that different this year?

[kcrazorbackfan]

Yes. Remember how the overseeding didn't take last year? We just haven't had the sufficient rainfall this year to allow this; rest easy, the golfing world is not going to end because of this; all the 20+ handicappers will now have an excuse to blame their sucky games on. On the flip side, it will give the courses time to do some extensive weed control on the fairways.

[Bogie Shooter]

What will the low handicappers use for an excuse? The same thing?

[ajbrown]

What will the low handicappers use for an excuse?

Greens are slow and bumpy? I have a dozen of them ready :D

[ajbrown]

Greens are slow and bumpy? I have a dozen of them ready :D

What will the low handicappers use for an excuse? The same thing?

That may be a bit presumptuous of me, I am not sure what a low handicap's index would be, to know if I could be one... :D

[er9027]

Well, rainfall this summer isn't as important as after over-seeding rye. I spoke with one of the superintendants last year and the reason I was given was that December had gotten quite warm. That caused the bermuda to come out of dormancy. Consequentially , it choked out the overseeded rye. It seems to me that this is strictly a cost measure. Starts with golf course due to the high cost but then will spread to other amenities. Almost every aspect of TV's is first class. I have played courses in the south that haven't over-seeded but they will not be as nice as what TV's have done in past. Not trying to panic or anything, but just concerned. Time will tell.

[kcrazorbackfan]

What will the low handicappers use for an excuse? The same thing?

We don't have to make excuses, we overcome.....

[Bogie Shooter]

Well, rainfall this summer isn't as important as after over-seeding rye. I spoke with one of the superintendants last year and the reason I was given was that December had gotten quite warm. That caused the bermuda to come out of dormancy. Consequentially , it choked out the overseeded rye. It seems to me that this is strictly a cost measure. Starts with golf course due to the high cost but then will spread to other amenities. Almost every aspect of TV's is first class. I have played courses in the south that haven't over-seeded but they will not be as nice as what TV's have done in past. Not trying to panic or anything, but just concerned. Time will tell.

What other amenities are you referring to?

[er9027]

Just saying, I'm concerned about cost cutting. Golf if the number one reason TV's has been so popular. At least to start with. :-)

[Mikeod]

Well, rainfall this summer isn't as important as after over-seeding rye. I spoke with one of the superintendants last year and the reason I was given was that December had gotten quite warm. That caused the bermuda to come out of dormancy. Consequentially , it choked out the overseeded rye. It seems to me that this is strictly a cost measure. Starts with golf course due to the high cost but then will spread to other amenities. Almost every aspect of TV's is first class. I have played courses in the south that haven't over-seeded but they will not be as nice as what TV's have done in past. Not trying to panic or anything, but just concerned. Time will tell.
You are correct that water is critical to the overseed process, but understand that the summer rains fill the retention ponds which provide the vast majority of the water used on the golf courses along with the recycled water. There is a limit to the amount of water TV can draw from the aquifer, so a reduction in summer rains directly affects the ability to overseed. In the past, they have not overseeded the fairways on par 4 holes on the executive courses for this very reason, even though they overseeded everything on the championship courses. When summer rains were more normal, they resumed overseeding the par 4 fairways. I don't see this as a cost cutting move, but rather recognizing the reality of reduced water availability.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

The only real reason for over seeding is to make the course look green. The fairways are fine just the way they are and the greens will putt fine with dormant Bermuda.

If anything needs to be over seeded, it's the rough. When the Bermuda goes dormant, there basically is no more rough. Golf courses become much wider and there is less chance of a stray ball being held up from getting into trouble.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

What will the low handicappers use for an excuse? The same thing?

I don't too many low handicappers who complain about not being able to get "under" the ball.

By the way, you picked your head up.

[er9027]

ahhh,,,very good point. Thanks