Pirates

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OK, let me see if I have this right... 4 "pirates" are floating in a little boat holding a US citizen hostage, demanding a ransom. The US has the dingy surrounded by Navy vessels. Where are the sharpshooters? We should be able to pick these guys off like fish in a barrel. I must be missing some vita info.

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Thats what i thought until i saw a picture of the enclosed life boat there in

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Thats what i thought until i saw a picture of the enclosed life boat there inEnclosed.... well, that explains that.

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When the captain escaped why was he recaptured? Where was the seal team that was (or should have been) under the life boat. Where were the snipers? Have our seal teams gone soft? Has the navy gone stupid? Were the forced to stand down? If so, why?

Has the greatest navy in the world been turned to mush by punks? What the hell is going on?

Yoda

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It was after midnight when the guy jumped overboard. Seals and snipers are sleeping.

I would imagine that a sniper on a rolling ship is next to useless - especially in the dark.

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Here in Fl. if someone breaks into our house we have the right (by law) to shoot them (self defense) BUT the owners of the commercial ships don't????? What's with that??!! Is there a law that restricts someone from protecting themselves on international waters? Does that mean now we all should be afraid to go on a cruise?!!!!!!

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Here in Fl. if someone breaks into our house we have the right (by law) to shoot them (self defense) BUT the owners of the commercial ships don't????? What's with that??!! Is there a law that restricts someone from protecting themselves on international waters? Does that mean now we all should be afraid to go on a cruise?!!!!!!

Unless you are crusing around Somalia and some other regions in the world, this does not seem to be a major worry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate

60 Minutes last week also showed Merchant Marine academies training cadets in firearm and hand-to-hand fighting techniques.

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I watched a program that said if the ship was bearing arms they had to port and be searched etc in several ports and it held up the ship. I also heard if they captured the pirates they had to be turned over to the nearest country (govt) which is Somalia who treats these pirates like Robin Hood. I think the situation is complicated by hostages (from the Phillipines) in a close by ship. It is a situation where you wish they could just go take our guy back somehow.

[Guest]

Here in Fl. if someone breaks into our house we have the right (by law) to shoot them (self defense) BUT the owners of the commercial ships don't????? What's with that??!! Is there a law that restricts someone from protecting themselves on international waters? Does that mean now we all should be afraid to go on a cruise?!!!!!!


If you shoot them outside your house, drag them inside!

I had a friend who shot someone banging down his front door, but he shot and killed him thru the door and was charged with manslaughter.

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If you shoot them outside your house, drag them inside!

I had a friend who shot someone banging down his front door, but he shot and killed him thru the door and was charged with manslaughter.

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MSM news outlets report Captain is safe aboard a Navy vessel...

GREAT NEWS!!!!:pepper2:

[Guest]

woo hoo!

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Snipers 3 - Pirates 0

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Yep... after 5 days, the POTUS finally gave the authorization to take action... final result, 3 out or the 4 bad guys - dead; US captain - safe!

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Yep... after 5 days, the POTUS finally gave the authorization to take action... final result, 3 out or the 4 bad guys - dead; US captain - safe!

Read the timeline.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/12/somalia.pirates/index.html#cnnSTCOther2

The President authorized appropriate force on the 10th, 2 (two) days after the hostage taking.

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Read the timeline.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/12/somalia.pirates/index.html#cnnSTCOther2

The President authorized appropriate force on the 10th, 2 (two) days after the hostage taking.

OK... so who do you believe... MSNBC reported he gave permission twice, on the 3rd and then again on the 4th day ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30182256/ ) So what.. it was the 5th day the plan was implemented and succeeded.

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It was after midnight when the guy jumped overboard. Seals and snipers are sleeping.

I would imagine that a sniper on a rolling ship is next to useless - especially in the dark.Looks like sniperson a rolling ship are far from useless... at least in daylight. These seals train for years for that one shot. They don't miss...

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have to have a POTUS OK to to do the right thing.
What should not be comforting to anybody is the prospect the government does not consider the involved/threatened individual as the priority.

The process of evaluating who we going to upset, who will like it, who won't like it, are we sure we can't talk 'em out of it, etc, etc.

When a country is doing the right thing to protect it's people from harm there should not have to be any concern for who reacts how to it. As a matter of fact, it is a proven behavior form that when one knows the response for a violation is imminent, there are fewer violations.

And in the State of Florida one does not have to drag the body inside if you shoot a person for just cause on your property....or in public for that matter.

BTK

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God bless the navy seals,the United States Armed forces,and the President of the United States for making the right decision.Its about time we come out on top,and as usual all by ourselves what a great day for America.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

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The Navy has an SOP regarding action if a hostage is endangered. The presidents permission was not required, unless of course he ordered the Navy to stand down. Then, they would need permission.

Just dotting all the Is'

Yoda

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Looks like sniperson a rolling ship are far from useless... at least in daylight. These seals train for years for that one shot. They don't miss...


They were towing the lift boat and pulled it within 40 yards, just about any basic trainee after 8 weeks with an M14 could pop someone at 40 yards.
Reported that the snipers had some sort of auto gryo device on their weapon's support that canceled out the wave action.

Still, Good shootin!

(my son in law, on the Denver PD, was a Murine sniper in the 1st Gulf War and underwent much the same training as the seals - like staying in the water for 24 hrs, or so).

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