Water purification system

[Opmoochler]

TOTV is an invaluable source of useful information and helpful (or not) opinions. I just sat through a very high pressure sales pitch for a Clear Choice Water Purification system and couldn't help but think back many years to a Kirby vacuum presentation I suffered through. Because I'm not wild about the taste of chlorinated water, I have a Brita-type pitcher we fill from the kitchen sink, and we have the GE fridge filter for icecubes. If I am to believe the hocus pocus presentation, our current methods are wothless. For 30 years in Annapolis, we were on fabulous tasting, but very hard, well water, which we had to soften in order to preserve the plumbing/appliances. Since we moved here, I've followed with interest the comments about the NOVA system. At this point, I'm curious about the pros and cons of either. There are apparently 4000+ happy Clear Choice customers in TV (not an overwhelming number, considering the total population). Why should I buy either system, or shouldn't I bother to buy either?

[Mikeod]

We were unhappy with the taste of the water when we got here. We got tired of changing the fridge filter every couple months, and they're not cheap. We saw the info on the Nova system and decided to try that. We've had it for over two years and replaced the filters twice, at a cost less than we would have spent on fridge filters alone. Now we have great tasting water from all our faucets, not just the fridge. I think one of the factors that caused us to change fridge filters so frequently was that we used fridge water whenever and wherever we could. A side benefit is that, if you look at pictures posted of the filters when they are removed, you can see the orange stuff collected. We had to replace all the tile in our master shower before we got the Nova filter because the grout was stained orange and none of the tile cleaning companies could get it clean again. Now we don't have to worry about the guest shower doing the same.

We had a water softener prior to the Nova system and we were a little concerned about removing the softener which had died and going with just the Nova system. But we have no problems with bathing, washing clothes or dishes. Nice lather. But no slippery feeling when showering.

I can't comment on the other company, but it seems we got what we were looking for at a much lower cost with Nova.

[dewilson58]

Take a look at Pelican Water equipment.

Not cheap, just the best.

Good Luck.
dew

[NYGUY]

Regarding the Nova System, you might want to check out this recent thread: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/nova-filtration-water-filters-209096/?highlight=nova+water

[Opmoochler]

Thanks, I did, and I've written down their phone #. We have no sediment in the toilet tanks, no discoloration of tile or grout, and not much calcification of the shower head or other fixtures. I was more concerned about excessive chlorine and any other toxic pollutants that might be in the water.

[junction29]

Thanks, I did, and I've written down their phone #. We have no sediment in the toilet tanks, no discoloration of tile or grout, and not much calcification of the shower head or other fixtures. I was more concerned about excessive chlorine and any other toxic pollutants that might be in the water.

I am a real fan of Bob & his NOVA system, which we have had now for just over three years.

We had the usual high pressure sales talks from a couple of companies when we moved to TV.

Then we met our neighbour Bob at a 'gathering', he and his son Brad are real experts in water quality as they have a chain of Pet Stores somewhere in Long Island, specialising in selling exotic fish so not only are they experts on water quality, they have extensive knowledge of water filter systems too.

You will not get high pressure selling of them, just the truth about their product.

[Nova Filtration]

Take a look at Pelican Water equipment.

Not cheap, just the best.

At least compare ours to theirs, an educated home owner about water chemistry is our best customer.

We have more capacity/specs and lower prices.

I recently had a homeowner unsatisfied with the taste of the Pelican and added our whole house filter to it.

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[Nova Filtration]

I was more concerned about excessive chlorine and any other toxic pollutants that might be in the water.

Our Whole house filter removes 99.9% of the chlorine and pollutants, I have an independent lab test to substantiate that.

One point on chlorine removal, it is not just chlorine you need removed. If you look at you annual report from the water company there are two by products listed there as well.

Haloacetic acid & TTHM, both are by-products of disinfection process equally as carcinogenic as the chlorine.:shrug:

We don't use the standard charcoal based carbon our removes those by-products as well.

Most softeners just softeners just soften they don't filter.

Our company is not simply equipment installers like our competitors, I have been doing water chemistry for for over 40 years, with delicate marine aquaria.
I live here and know what you need for great healthy and good tasting water.

Please call us 352.566.2649. we can speak on the phone (no high pressure sales) for straight forward recommendations.

Bob & Brad

[KathieI]

I have the Nova treatment system as well. Love it. I would highly recommend it. My neighbor now wants it as well.

[Iaudit2000]

Our Whole house filter removes 99.9% of the chlorine and pollutants, I have an independent lab test to substantiate that.

One point on chlorine removal, it is not just chlorine you need removed. If you look at you annual report from the water company there are two by products listed there as well.

Haloacetic acid & TTHM, both are by-products of disinfection process equally as carcinogenic as the chlorine.:shrug:

We don't use the standard charcoal based carbon our removes those by-products as well.

Most softeners just softeners just soften they don't filter.

Our company is not simply equipment installers like our competitors, I have been doing water chemistry for for over 40 years, with delicate marine aquaria.
I live here and know what you need for great healthy and good tasting water.

Please call us 352.566.2649. we can speak on the phone (no high pressure sales) for straight forward recommendations.

Bob & Brad

Please clarify the carbon filter sentence.

[2BNTV]

We were unhappy with the taste of the water when we got here. We got tired of changing the fridge filter every couple months, and they're not cheap. We saw the info on the Nova system and decided to try that. We've had it for over two years and replaced the filters twice, at a cost less than we would have spent on fridge filters alone. Now we have great tasting water from all our faucets, not just the fridge. I think one of the factors that caused us to change fridge filters so frequently was that we used fridge water whenever and wherever we could. A side benefit is that, if you look at pictures posted of the filters when they are removed, you can see the orange stuff collected. We had to replace all the tile in our master shower before we got the Nova filter because the grout was stained orange and none of the tile cleaning companies could get it clean again. Now we don't have to worry about the guest shower doing the same.

We had a water softener prior to the Nova system and we were a little concerned about removing the softener which had died and going with just the Nova system. But we have no problems with bathing, washing clothes or dishes. Nice lather. But no slippery feeling when showering.

I can't comment on the other company, but it seems we got what we were looking for at a much lower cost with Nova.

Another vote for Nova.

I drink a lot of water and I love the Nova system!!!

[BK001]

You can add me to the list of happy/satisfied Nova customers. When we moved in, as soon as I opened the tap, I was overwhelmed (perhaps a slight exaggeration but not by much) with the odor of chlorine. We had Nova come in and install their system. I no longer smell the chlorine and an added benefit is that since it is a "whole house" system, it is removing the chlorine from the showers. After swimming in chlorine, I don't need more chlorine on my body when I shower after a day in the pool.

Very satisfied with Nova and highly recommend.

[Nova Filtration]

Thank you all for the testimonials, much appreciated.

Just so you know when you recommend us to a friend we offer a $10 coupon discount on your next filter change as our way of saying thank you.





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[Nova Filtration]

Please clarify the carbon filter sentence.

Everyone else uses charcoal or activated charcoal, some use KVH inside a softener.

In the case of KVH those are about the size of a can of soda and are placed inside some brands of softeners. It is hard to tell when they need replacing ans because the water isn't pre-filtered before reaching that type of filter they clog up with particulate matter fast so they are not very effective. When they do need changing it requires a service call + a new KVH it gets expensive.

charcoal type carbon has been used for years but because the carbon chips are lose packed into some type of container water can bypass the carbon contact, due to this channeling of the water taking the path of least resistance. you wind up with perhaps 85-90% filtered water.

I have been using coconut shell carbon impregnated with special inhibitors. this carbon is compressed into block, so water can not bypass it. (almost like brick) the other advantage is it is natural, and has smaller pores to trap more contaminants.

Some the most delicate marine creatures thrive with this type of media in their aquarium filtration system.

It is about 3x the cost of other carbon.


Last point about my design, the carbon in the pic below is on the left you can see it's large, about 5" x 24"

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Because of it's size the water within the chamber has more "dwell" time, a very important issue. The longer the water stays in the chamber the more contaminants it can remove.

That is the reason the small 2"X10" you may see at home depot etc are really ineffective.

Please call for more info.

Thanks
Bob

[Kahuna32162]

We no longer buy bottled water, we just refill the empties from the tap after having Bob & Brad install the Nova system. IMHO this system should be standard equipment on all Villages homes.

[baustgen]

Why not wait and see if you adapt to the unfiltered water? Lots of pressure to buy early in your first days here. The Villages water is probably purer than 99% of the world's supply. We are in our 16th year of drinking straight from the tap. Not a problem.

[marennorge]

Nova Filtration!!!!!

[Opmoochler]

Why not wait and see if you adapt to the unfiltered water? Lots of pressure to buy early in your first days here. The Villages water is probably purer than 99% of the world's supply. We are in our 16th year of drinking straight from the tap. Not a problem.

We've been here over a year, and there is no "adapting" to the smell/taste of chlorine. We currently rely on a Brita-type pitcher for water and have a number of filters left to use. We also have fridge filters for our ice cubes. Expensive booze doesn't taste good with chlorine-laced cubes!

I am more interested to learn of the by-products of chlorination being carcinogenic. I'd had a hunch that was the case. I will be contacting NOVA shortly.

Thanks to everyone for your helpful responses to my initial inquiry.

[rlcooper70]

We had a plumber install a whole house Whirlpool filter that cost less than $500 all in .... cleans up everything and back washes itself every few days. It sits in the garage and is amazing. What a relief.

[birdiebill]

We had the Nova system installed two weeks ago. We were accustomed to using a water softener in Indiana due to the hardness of the well water. Here our only complaint was the chemical taste of the water. Since the Nova system was installed, the water and ice cubes have no taste whatsoever.

[photo1902]

Why not wait and see if you adapt to the unfiltered water? Lots of pressure to buy early in your first days here. The Villages water is probably purer than 99% of the world's supply. We are in our 16th year of drinking straight from the tap. Not a problem.

Im with you. I guess if you moved from a house which had well water, you might notice a difference. As far as chlorine taste/smell, I sure as heck don't notice it.

[Chatbrat]

I have a GE whole house filter and an electronic descaler--works great -have never had to change the water filter in our refrigerator--no smell, water tastes great- no discoloring in any appliances-change the filter every 6 months--had it installed by CPM 4 years ago

[jimbo2012]

Im with you. I guess if you moved from a house which had well water, you might notice a difference. As far as chlorine taste/smell, I sure as heck don't notice it.

Different people have different sensitivity to to taste & odor, just look at your annual report.

have never had to change the water filter in our refrigerator--

All carbon starts to grow bacteria in about 18 months that is not safe.

cleans up everything and back washes itself every few days.

Carbon cannot be back washed the things it traps are microscopic inside the pores of the carbon.

THat's why they are replaced


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[OhioBuckeye]

TOTV is an invaluable source of useful information and helpful (or not) opinions. I just sat through a very high pressure sales pitch for a Clear Choice Water Purification system and couldn't help but think back many years to a Kirby vacuum presentation I suffered through. Because I'm not wild about the taste of chlorinated water, I have a Brita-type pitcher we fill from the kitchen sink, and we have the GE fridge filter for icecubes. If I am to believe the hocus pocus presentation, our current methods are wothless. For 30 years in Annapolis, we were on fabulous tasting, but very hard, well water, which we had to soften in order to preserve the plumbing/appliances. Since we moved here, I've followed with interest the comments about the NOVA system. At this point, I'm curious about the pros and cons of either. There are apparently 4000+ happy Clear Choice customers in TV (not an overwhelming number, considering the total population). Why should I buy either system, or shouldn't I bother to buy either?

We have a PUR Filter Pitcher that I use to filter the Chlorine out of the Villages water. Personally I can't stand the smell of the strong Chlorine. We came from Ohio & about all the dentist that I've ever gone to out of state will say to me, "You must be from the mid west" because my teeth & everyone else's he saw had good teeth. Just my opinion, & I know a lot of people will think they have the best water where they come from, but I think the Villages water is terrible & all of the chlorine in the water can't be to healthy for you over time. But I guess I never heard of anybody dying from drinking it. Yes, you need some kind of filtering system. Good article!

[HoosierPa]

Another vote for Nova. We love our whole house filtration system

[Nova Filtration]

Descaler, I've seen mentioned here their use so a bit of background.

I've worked on homes here 20+ years of age, never saw any scale (calcium) build up at all.

A descaler works on the principle of magnets suspended the calcium so it doesn't adhere to walls of pipes, even if working correctly and there's no real way to know that.
The calcium is free floating so you still have it in the water, it doesn't remove it.

In the water filtration industry it is controversial.

If you want it removed the softener is the solution, but there is no heath risks of calcium and or hard water.

We do install a high capacity water softeners for those that want them at at only $995.

Ps: there are heath risks of chlorine and the byproducts of it's use in water disinfection.


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[champion6]

I opted for Nova's deluxe model. It costs a little for, but it's well worth it! <wink> <wink>

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[Debfrommaine]

Nova installed our system Saturday and we have noticed such a difference all already - love it! Professional, great customer service and on time. Highly recommend Nova.

[DangeloInspections]

I opted for Nova's deluxe model. It costs a little for, but it's well worth it! <wink> <wink>

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/champion6-12087/albums/forum-posts/7736-a.jpg

That is very funny.....! And here I did not think that bob's Nova System could ever be improved....silly me!

Frank