New villages south of Rt. 44 able to vote on issues within the villages?

[Rickg]

I read the following article in the online news and realized that the new villages south of the FL Turnpike would be voting on issues affecting all of us in the "core" Villages. I'm not so sure that's a good idea.

"CDD 4 supervisors were perplexed as to why pools in their district would be voted on by all residents. Staff explained that pools are open to all residents of The Villages so all residents will have the opportunity to take part in the survey. Do you agree with the decision?"

[pauld315]

I read the following article in the online news and realized that the new villages south of the FL Turnpike would be voting on issues affecting all of us in the "core" Villages. I'm not so sure that's a good idea.

"CDD 4 supervisors were perplexed as to why pools in their district would be voted on by all residents. Staff explained that pools are open to all residents of The Villages so all residents will have the opportunity to take part in the survey. Do you agree with the decision?"

And why wouldn't they be able to ? Just like the people who live south of 466A being able to vote on the "inner core Villages" ? They will be paying the same fees as everyone else and will have access to all of the same amenities of The Villages...just like you.They will just be a Villager, entitled to everything other Villagers are entitled to...just like you are.

[graciegirl]

We don't vote. It is a CDD. It is a benevolent dictatorship and I love it. When the residents start running the asylum is when I put my house up for sale. It is ALL GOOD the way it is.

[Polar Bear]

One of the great appeals of TV for me is that all facilities are equally accessible to all residents. So even though there isn't voting by residents, all residents' opinions are equally important.

[graciegirl]

One of the great appeals of TV for me is that all facilities are equally accessible to all residents. So even though there isn't voting by residents, all residents' opinions are equally important.

That is what I was tryin' to say. I have been part of places where the HOA was run by people who had difficulty balancing their check book and making a grocery list. People who had never held a position of authority before. It is AWFUL.

[golf2140]

That is what I was tryin' to say. I have been part of places where the HOA was run by people who had difficulty balancing their check book and making a grocery list. People who had never held a position of authority before. It is AWFUL.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Gracie for Mayor

[NYGUY]

We don't vote. It is a CDD. It is a benevolent dictatorship and I love it. When the residents start running the asylum is when I put my house up for sale. It is ALL GOOD the way it is.

Absolutely correct!!

[RickeyD]

So, potentially 6,000 additional souls will have full access within the core and we within the core all 100,000 of us will have full access within Finney. Guess which way this transvillage amenity migration will flow. All below 466A will be affected since ALL shopping exists within the core and this migration will be by automobile only.

[rubicon]

Big isn't always better, is it

[MikeV]

Big isn't always better, is it

No it is not always better. :bigbow:

[dewilson58]

We get to vote?? Cool.

[Polar Bear]

Big isn't always better, is it
Doesn't mean it can't be.

[Barefoot]

We get to vote?? Cool.

We bought in 2007 and I'm still looking for the Villages Voting Booth. :)

[billethkid]

Core? Really???

A resident of TV is a resident of TV? As simple as that!

[JoMar]

But the good news is we all have choices to accept the bigger or not. Also, I don't think the issue for the pools was a vote, it was a non-binding survery.

[SALYBOW]

So, potentially 6,000 additional souls will have full access within the core and we within the core all 100,000 of us will have full access within Finney. Guess which way this transvillage amenity migration will flow. All below 466A will be affected since ALL shopping exists within the core and this migration will be by automobile only.

By auto up the already bust Buena Vista and Morse. You think the hospital is bad now?

[RickeyD]

By auto up the already bust Buena Vista and Morse. You think the hospital is bad now?



Actually the hospital in Leesburg is closer to Fenny.

[justjim]

The next generation of Villagers will live south of 44 just like the generation of current Villagers live southwest and northwest of US 441/27. The Villages is made up of many villages but one community. We can't imagine what shopping could be built south of Rt 44 and off the exit of the Turnpike and Morse Blvd. Construction has already started on the next generation of The Villages---sit back Frogs, watch and enjoy until you croak.

[circletrack]

So, potentially 6,000 additional souls will have full access within the core and we within the core all 100,000 of us will have full access within Finney. Guess which way this transvillage amenity migration will flow. All below 466A will be affected since ALL shopping exists within the core and this migration will be by automobile only.

You have to remember that at some point, unless you are an original owner in Orange Blossom, folks were probably saying the same thing about you, or the previous owners of your home when it was built.

No matter how big it grows, this is all one community and everyone has access to everything. That's the model.

[golfing eagles]

We don't vote. It is a CDD. It is a benevolent dictatorship and I love it. When the residents start running the asylum is when I put my house up for sale. It is ALL GOOD the way it is.

You should stay and become the new benevolent dictator:pray::pray::pray:

[RickeyD]

You have to remember that at some point, unless you are an original owner in Orange Blossom, folks were probably saying the same thing about you, or the previous owners of your home when it was built.



No matter how big it grows, this is all one community and everyone has access to everything. That's the model.



As long as a proportional number of amenities and shopping are built to absorb the newcomers.

[Arlington2]

We don't vote. It is a CDD. It is a benevolent dictatorship and I love it. When the residents start running the asylum is when I put my house up for sale. It is ALL GOOD the way it is.

I second the statement. We lived in a similar development for 12 years. While the developer maintained control the landscaping and other common property maintenance was immaculate. When the developer pulled out a management clique formed and priorities changed. Landscaping was pared back and road preservation actions got leaner. Recreational emphasis became what those on the board were involved in and others were scaled back. A lot of fuss, but because most residents were part time and didn't get involved it was very difficult to vote out incumbents. Even though I don't always agree with the developer's actions, my vote is for benevolent dictatorship.

[PennBF]

How many are familiar with the "Company Towns" that were a big part of Western Pennsylvania coal towns? If you are then you know The Villages is the "Up Scale" Company Town. They were run by the Mine Owners and a lot of times when they were to get paid they received a small paycheck as they had to buy everything from the Company Stores, and their children went to Company Schools. As the Owner/Developer of The Villages this is just another Company Town and the big difference is over time the Owner/Developer has become much more educated as to how to set up a Company Town and where they can control the residents lives. We love The Villages and enjoy the life style but do not lose tract that we are in an upscale Company Town. In the old Company Towns the Mine Owners also controlled the politics and were able to control the politicians through "money". Does anyone doubt the Developer/Owner can and has applied financial leverages to get when he wants? There was a small town in Pennsylvania that was like a Company town. On the internet you can look up "Star Junction" in PA and if they still exist look at the old "Tract Houses" that were the homes of the Company Town Residents.
:mornincoffee:

[Lovey2]

:shrug:I'm still stuck on "inner core". Where is that exactly??

[dewilson58]

How many are familiar with the "Company Towns" that were a big part of Western Pennsylvania coal towns? If you are then you know The Villages is the "Up Scale" Company Town. They were run by the Mine Owners and a lot of times when they were to get paid they received a small paycheck as they had to buy everything from the Company Stores, and their children went to Company Schools. As the Owner/Developer of The Villages this is just another Company Town and the big difference is over time the Owner/Developer has become much more educated as to how to set up a Company Town and where they can control the residents lives. We love The Villages and enjoy the life style but do not lose tract that we are in an upscale Company Town. In the old Company Towns the Mine Owners also controlled the politics and were able to control the politicians through "money". Does anyone doubt the Developer/Owner can and has applied financial leverages to get when he wants? There was a small town in Pennsylvania that was like a Company town. On the internet you can look up "Star Junction" in PA and if they still exist look at the old "Tract Houses" that were the homes of the Company Town Residents.
:mornincoffee:

Another big difference...............the Developer does not control our wages and we don't have to buy at the company store. Company towns were difficult to leave, TV is easy and probably leave with a profit on your home. And we don't have snow. Other than that..........

:pepper2:

[Polar Bear]

How many are familiar with the "Company Towns" that were a big part of Western Pennsylvania coal towns? If you are then you know The Villages is the "Up Scale" Company Town...
What a joke.

[biker1]

You do realize that you actually live in a "Company Country"?

How many are familiar with the "Company Towns" that were a big part of Western Pennsylvania coal towns? If you are then you know The Villages is the "Up Scale" Company Town. They were run by the Mine Owners and a lot of times when they were to get paid they received a small paycheck as they had to buy everything from the Company Stores, and their children went to Company Schools. As the Owner/Developer of The Villages this is just another Company Town and the big difference is over time the Owner/Developer has become much more educated as to how to set up a Company Town and where they can control the residents lives. We love The Villages and enjoy the life style but do not lose tract that we are in an upscale Company Town. In the old Company Towns the Mine Owners also controlled the politics and were able to control the politicians through "money". Does anyone doubt the Developer/Owner can and has applied financial leverages to get when he wants? There was a small town in Pennsylvania that was like a Company town. On the internet you can look up "Star Junction" in PA and if they still exist look at the old "Tract Houses" that were the homes of the Company Town Residents.
:mornincoffee:

[PennBF]

The Developer does not control a large number of residents but does have an impact as to how much he pays his many Village employees, he impacts the Amenity Fees, his actions have a strong influence on some prices, (e.g. allegedly he get a cut from the restaurants revenue/profit which is above rentals?), Most residents don't know what goes to the Developer/Owner, how some charges are allocated, etc.I Admit that I only know of some of the fees the Developer/Owner collect. I don't deny them one cent as they deserve it. They took or take the risk and therefore they should have the reward. But having said that I also understand the Developer/Owner has an impact on a number of the expenses I have to pay and that to some degree makes this a Company Town. If a person wants to deny this and hide reality that is their option but I have no problem in recognizing reality.:shrug:

[ColdNoMore]

It might be a good time for this reminder from management.


"Reminder do not direct comments toward other users." "Your post will be removed."


:ho:

[Polar Bear]

You do realize that you actually live in a "Company Country"?

Good one. :)

[circletrack]

As long as a proportional number of amenities and shopping are built to absorb the newcomers.

I absolutely agree, but as they've continued to expand, shopping centers and recreation facilities continue to expand in each area. I have no reason to believe so far that that will change.

[justjim]

You may not be able to drive your golf cart but there are many places outside the bubble where you can shop. The Squares are open to the public and you don't have to shop there.

I am familiar with company stores and so called company towns. My father and grandfather were coalminers in Kentucky and southern Illinois. I can see where you might draw some similarities to The Villages but in my opinion this place is far from being a company town and far from having so called company stores. Miners in the 1920's thru the early 1950's suffered from poor working conditions affecting their health and welfare plus wages that were so bad that they were unable to provide adequately for their families. The Villages is the economic engine for this area and is far from being the company town or company store of the past IMHO.

The income of the "inmates" choosing to live here in The Villages is well above the average for adults age 55 and above. Many worked hard and bypassed instant gratification to obtain the village lifestyle. Indeed, we are a fortunate group but it was well earned. Fore!

[PennBF]

I also understand "Company Towns" as I also lived in one and was raised for a part of my life in Western Pennsylvania and went to college in the Steel Plants areas. As I had said The Villages is the modern day upscale like Company Town. The houses are much better but in some area all look alike, allegedly the Owner/Developer gets a portion of the Businesses who want to do business in the town, the political structure is a creation that supports the Owner/Developer, the residents have only partial say in their ability to control the actions in The Villages, etc etc. As I have said, we really like the Villages and will be "Frogs" however that does not detract from what it is.There are big differences. In the old PA Company Town the residents were very poor and were able to survive through the Mine Owner. That of course is not the case in The Villages but the Owner/Developer still has a major say in your on going economics and to deny that is kind of like being an Ostrich. :ho: