What would you do?

[Chatbrat]

Yesterday my wife was @ the St. James gate , the car in front of her waved 10 golf carts thru the gate, there was a back up of almost 15 cars thanx to this drivers actions. she honked her horn in frustration & he pulled over and gave her a nasty stare. The golf carts have a full stop sign @ that crossing.

[jimnc]

Yesterday my wife was @ the St. James gate , the car in front of her waved 10 golf carts thru the gate, there was a back up of almost 15 cars thanx to this drivers actions. she honked her horn in frustration & he pulled over and gave her a nasty stare. The golf carts have a full stop sign @ that crossing.

Your wife is right. She deserves an award.
This practice is so dangerous. It's time for people to learn how to navigate through these gates. The golf cart driver should not proceed. He should insist the car go through the gate correctly. Come on people. PAY ATTENTION.

[ColdNoMore]

All too many times (in automobiles and carts) people have tried to wave me through (opposing traffic stopping to let me make a left hand turn being a prime example), when they clearly had the right-of-way...and thought they were being nice.

All they were really doing was creating a major hazard.

Not to mention, if something were to happen...I would have been at fault.

In my example above, I don't think they understand that if they just went ahead and drove past...I could then easily make that left hand turn.

I like to be nice myself when the conditions warrant, but will refuse to stop and let cars by/through/in/turn...if I have the ROW and I will be creating a hazard.

It really comes down to knowing the laws and creating the least amount of potential problems/conflicts. :shrug:

[cms36]

I was one of those carts. We had the same conversation about the driver raising lots of bp's

[baustgen]

I always refuse the offer to "go ahead and cross". The reason is that if anything happens, it is the golf cart drivers fault for not stopping. They have the stop sign. The best thing you can do is get through the gate as fast as possible, to open up the crossing.

Not a place for Florida's Friendliest to be friendly.

[Villager Joyce]

One thing I have learned in my 60 plus years is people rarely appreciate a horn honk, even people who have bumper stickers that say to honk if you love Jesus.

[bbbbbb]

[QUOTE=jimnc;1308740]Your wife is right. She deserves an award.
This practice is so dangerous. It's time for people to learn how to navigate through these gates. The golf cart driver should not proceed. He should insist the car go through the gate correctly. Come on people. PAY ATTENTION.
Good item.
OK now suppose you are on a bicycle, at any crossing at any street some drivers are trying to be courteous and they may stop, when they are not supposed to. I will not go out in front of a stopped car, before they stop I vigorously wave them on. If they are stopped at a spot they are not required to stop, then, when I am crossing in front of them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wow. They can get rear ended, there can be a fire, the car can then be pushed into me walking across. I hope this makes sense, again, if the car coming is not required to stop, then they should not stop, this causes a major hazard. Out riding my bike, I do not want to see a major accident due to this. I hope this makes sense, safety first. At any such point, I vigorously wave people to go on without stopping,,,,,,,,,,, always. Safety first folks.
bbbbbb :kiss:

[Mrs. Robinson]

One thing I have learned in my 60 plus years is people rarely appreciate a horn honk, even people who have bumper stickers that say to honk if you love Jesus.

You are so right, Joyce.
That same goes for the bumper sticker that says
"How's my driving? Call 1-800 EAT S***!"

:censored:

[JoelJohnson]

I often say "Don't be a jerk, just do what you're suppose to do."

Being a "nice guy" often confuses the other driver because they did not expect you're actions.

They expect that if you have the right of way, you'll take it and get out of the way.

[graciegirl]

One thing I have learned in my 60 plus years is people rarely appreciate a horn honk, even people who have bumper stickers that say to honk if you love Jesus.

I passionately agree with this. If you were born and raised in certain parts of the country, almost NOTHING warrants a horn honk, but a car horn is engaged just like the mouth in other areas.

Incoming............

[Madelaine Amee]

I would have ground my teeth down to the gums and just sat there waiting for the idiot to go, not much else you can do in the circumstances. I use the Polo Ridge Gate and sometimes we get someone entering the gate who will stop for the carts and we get backed up onto BV - now that is scary.

[RickeyD]

I often say "Don't be a jerk, just do what you're suppose to do."

Being a "nice guy" often confuses the other driver because they did not expect you're actions.

They expect that if you have the right of way, you'll take it and get out of the way.



Tell that to my wife, she refuses to believe me [emoji53]

[NYGUY]

I will only wave a golf cart through if the gate is backed up so much that I can not get through it. Otherwise the golf cart must wait.

[Topspinmo]

The gates are there for reason. the gate drops stopping traffic golf cart goes, gate opens, car goes, gate drops golf cart goes.... IMO the real problem is where cars exit from roundabout with golf cart path like Glenview.

Now, where there are stop lights like Saddlebrook intersection the gate delayed and will stay open to allow Green light traffic to proceed through. So, you are stuck till traffic cleans and right hand turner turns fast with no blinker light on, then it Holly S***.
I'll waste my breath some more. Please use blinker lights if you not doing so already!

The some cars (majority IMO from my observation) won't us blinker light and or come off Blvd so fast that carts don't have time to get out of the way. Especially being they have the little dips (drainage ditch) you have to slowly go over or get bounced out of the cart.

Then, once you get to the center on the right the big sign that blocks exiting traffic to the Blvd. Really have to be on your toes and not hesitate or poke along in the intersection. That's all I got to say about that!

[OCsun]

The gates are there for reason. the gate drops stopping traffic golf cart goes, gate opens, car goes, gate drops golf cart goes....

This theory would work even better if the cars would wait until the gate dropped, before they used their card to open it up. Many car drivers swipe their card while the gate is still up, making it almost impossible for a golf cart to dash in front of them. This is especially true when a golf cart is sitting in the middle of the two lanes (exit and entrance).

When the gate is broken off and a stop sign is placed at an entrance. . . STOP PEOPLE! There is no way a golf cart can take their turn if you don't stop!.

You heard me guy who made a rolling stop while entering the St. Charles gate. You did not want to take the time to stop at the stop sign, but you slowed down enough to give me the finger and yell that you had the right away.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest! I'm better now.

[Bryant]

I would have ground my teeth down to the gums and just sat there waiting for the idiot to go, not much else you can do in the circumstances. I use the Polo Ridge Gate and sometimes we get someone entering the gate who will stop for the carts and we get backed up onto BV - now that is scary.

That's exactly what happened to me at the Polo Ridge Gate. Gave him the horn (I'm from The Bronx, what do you expect) and got the finger from the driver and his wife. Wonder where they were from? LOL !

[RickeyD]

That's exactly what happened to me at the Polo Ridge Gate. Gave him the horn (I'm from The Bronx, what do you expect) and got the finger from the driver and his wife. Wonder where they were from? LOL !



Like this ? [emoji1589]

[Challenger]

Your wife is right. She deserves an award.
This practice is so dangerous. It's time for people to learn how to navigate through these gates. The golf cart driver should not proceed. He should insist the car go through the gate correctly. Come on people. PAY ATTENTION.

When the "right of way" is yours, take it. Other methods cause confusion.

If there are many cars and carts in opposing lines, the usual custom is for each line to allow one from the other line to pass.

[kansasr]

I'm sorry, but I'm a firm believe in "the horn". It's the only way to communicate a warning, and in this situation, that's exactly what is needed - a warning. This is a dangerous practice and as many have pointed out, it something goes wrong, the golf cart driver will be at fault for not obeying the stop sign.

When I'm in this position as golf cart driver, I just sit there and refuse the offer to proceed. At many places, you really don't have a clear idea of what's coming the other way. And I'm certain the driver "waving you on" hasn't looked themselves to see what the oncoming traffic is like.

A finally, the person doing the waving is placing themselves at risk for a rear end collision. Not everyone is as aware as we are that people do this and may be suddenly surprised to see a car stop right in front of them for no apparent reason.

I say waiting a couple of minutes to make a safe crossing is well worth it.

[jjdees]

Not to change the subject but someone mentioned left turns. There's a monkey see, monkey do situation that's developed over the last year or two where many drivers now think the approaching driver making a left turn at an intersection has the right a way over a driver approaching from the opposite direction making a right turn. I've experienced this at intersections crossing four lane divided roads, the light turns green and the driver in front of me just stands still awaiting left turn drivers making left turns even if the standing driver is going straight or making a right turn. Drives me crazy.......... This happens in many areas of the country, not just The Villages. It's as though the someone put their hand into the world and turned it inside out. There are other examples of this as..ss backwards behavior.

[graciegirl]

That's exactly what happened to me at the Polo Ridge Gate. Gave him the horn (I'm from The Bronx, what do you expect) and got the finger from the driver and his wife. Wonder where they were from? LOL !



Queens?

[Sandtrap328]

Yeah, there is the safety issue here and the horn honking and even a middle finger once in a great while.

However, isn't it pretty great that is about the extent of the problems here in The Villages?

Basically a city of 100,000 pretty happy people getting along mighty good with each other.

I love it here!

[Bogie Shooter]

I will only wave a golf cart through if the gate is backed up so much that I can not get through it. Otherwise the golf cart must wait.

Why should you ever wave a cart thru when they have the stop sign and you do not?? You become the problem!

[Bogie Shooter]

This theory would work even better if the cars would wait until the gate dropped, before they used their card to open it up. Many car drivers swipe their card while the gate is still up, making it almost impossible for a golf cart to dash in front of them. This is especially true when a golf cart is sitting in the middle of the two lanes (exit and entrance).

When the gate is broken off and a stop sign is placed at an entrance. . . STOP PEOPLE! There is no way a golf cart can take their turn if you don't stop!.

You heard me guy who made a rolling stop while entering the St. Charles gate. You did not want to take the time to stop at the stop sign, but you slowed down enough to give me the finger and yell that you had the right away.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest! I'm better now.

How did the cart get in the middle??

[ColdNoMore]

How did the car get in the middle??Simple.

No cars were coming in the lane(s) they just crossed, they went to the middle and they're now waiting for the other lane(s) to clear.


What happens all too often though, is when someone follows them to that center lane queuing area and thinks there's room for more than one cart to queue... while waiting for the other lane to clear.

Now they have at least one lane blocked, because their cart is hanging out into the auto lane that they just came across. :oops:

[Challenger]

I'm sorry, but I'm a firm believe in "the horn". It's the only way to communicate a warning, and in this situation, that's exactly what is needed - a warning. This is a dangerous practice and as many have pointed out, it something goes wrong, the golf cart driver will be at fault for not obeying the stop sign.

When I'm in this position as golf cart driver, I just sit there and refuse the offer to proceed. At many places, you really don't have a clear idea of what's coming the other way. And I'm certain the driver "waving you on" hasn't looked themselves to see what the oncoming traffic is like.

A finally, the person doing the waving is placing themselves at risk for a rear end collision. Not everyone is as aware as we are that people do this and may be suddenly surprised to see a car stop right in front of them for no apparent reason.

I say waiting a couple of minutes to make a safe crossing is well worth it.

The correct approach!!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I can't believe how many people don't know the rules of the road.

At an intersection the person that gets there first has the right of way. When two cars get there at the same time, the one on the right has the right of way. I can't tell you how many times I've arrived at an intersection and the car to my right got there slightly before me and waits for me to go.

Someone doing this kind of think thinks that they are being considerate but they don't think about the people behind them.

I would have beep the horn after three golf carts.

[buckscounty]

Yesterday my wife was @ the St. James gate , the car in front of her waved 10 golf carts thru the gate, there was a back up of almost 15 cars thanx to this drivers actions. she honked her horn in frustration & he pulled over and gave her a nasty stare. The golf carts have a full stop sign @ that crossing.

Cars have the right of way, I don't like when cars stop for me when I am in the cart, I just turn my head like I don't see them,and they go thru. Cars please stop just go thru you have the right of way.

[buckscounty]

Why should you ever wave a cart thru when they have the stop sign and you do not?? You become the problem!

So true.

[Bogie Shooter]

Simple.

No cars were coming in the lane(s) they just crossed, they went to the middle and they're now waiting for the other lane(s) to clear.


What happens all too often though, is when someone follows them to that center lane queuing area and thinks there's room for more than one cart to queue... while waiting for the other lane to clear.

Now they have at least one lane blocked, because their cart is hanging out into the auto lane that they just came across. :oops:
And should have never moved to the middle........

[ColdNoMore]

And should have never moved to the middle........

Baloney.

By getting across one lane and being able to safely wait for the other lane to clear, you have less of a backup...than you would waiting for both lanes to clear.

Or haven't you ever seen a pedestrian median, whereby you get across one side and then wait in the middle on the median...for a different walk light to get across the other lanes?

It's the exact same principle.

Just out of curiosity, do you drive a golf cart much?

[Mikeod]

Baloney.

By getting across one lane and being able to safely wait for the other lane to clear, you have less of a backup...than you would waiting for both lanes to clear.

Or haven't you ever seen a pedestrian median, whereby you get across one side and then wait in the middle on the median...for a different walk light to get across the other lanes?

It's the exact same principle.

Just out of curiosity, do you drive a golf cart much?
Problem is that when a cart moves to the middle, some car drivers feel more obligated to stop so the cart can proceed. It's sort of a damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[ColdNoMore]

Problem is that when a cart moves to the middle, some car drivers feel more obligated to stop so the cart can proceed. It's sort of a damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I understand what you're saying, but it goes right back to auto drivers knowing what to do.

While I have had drivers stop while I was in the island, a much higher % keeps moving and then I can cross when only one lane is clear...instead of waiting for both lanes to clear.

In fact, I'll bet those islands were engineered specifically to queue a golf cart (one at a time)...so as to minimize cart backups on the MMP's.

[Yung Dum]

Yesterday my wife was @ the St. James gate , the car in front of her waved 10 golf carts thru the gate, there was a back up of almost 15 cars thanx to this drivers actions. she honked her horn in frustration & he pulled over and gave her a nasty stare. The golf carts have a full stop sign @ that crossing.
I've always noticed that golf cart drivers seem to think they can go through intersections 2 at a time. Why? Maybe they think because they're smaller, they can double up. That's bad enough, but 10 is grounds for irate-ness from people who actually know how to drive as opposed to the idiot who apparently loves to watch a golf cart parade.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Cars have the right of way, I don't like when cars stop for me when I am in the cart, I just turn my head like I don't see them,and they go thru. Cars please stop just go thru you have the right of way.

This is simply not true. A golf cart on the road has the same status as a car. If a golf cart and a car come to an intersection the one that gets their first has the right of way. If they both arrive at the same time, the one on the right has the right of way.

Cars only have the right of way if the golf cart has a stop sign and the car does not.

[DonH57]

I've always noticed that golf cart drivers seem to think they can go through intersections 2 at a time. Why? Maybe they think because they're smaller, they can double up. That's bad enough, but 10 is grounds for irate-ness from people who actually know how to drive as opposed to the idiot who apparently loves to watch a golf cart parade.

I know I've had them tailgate behind my cart when I'm trying to cross behind the gates and island and get ticked off because I slowed for the uneven pavement." No bonehead, I'm not speeding across the bump because you're to impatient". :ohdear:

[Mikeod]

This is simply not true. A golf cart on the road has the same status as a car. If a golf cart and a car come to an intersection the one that gets their first has the right of way. If they both arrive at the same time, the one on the right has the right of way.

Cars only have the right of way if the golf cart has a stop sign and the car does not.
We need to differentiate between the roadway and the MMPs. The OP referred to car drivers stopping to let carts on the MMP cross the roadway. Carts do not have the same rights as autos in that situation. I've had carts pull out from the MMP in front of my car and stick their arm out telling me to stop! Now, when both are on the roadway, they have the same rights, and responsibilities, and must follow traffic laws.

[golfing eagles]

Not to change the subject but someone mentioned left turns. There's a monkey see, monkey do situation that's developed over the last year or two where many drivers now think the approaching driver making a left turn at an intersection has the right a way over a driver approaching from the opposite direction making a right turn. I've experienced this at intersections crossing four lane divided roads, the light turns green and the driver in front of me just stands still awaiting left turn drivers making left turns even if the standing driver is going straight or making a right turn. Drives me crazy.......... This happens in many areas of the country, not just The Villages. It's as though the someone put their hand into the world and turned it inside out. There are other examples of this as..ss backwards behavior.

You are sooooo correct!
More and more, it seems that the driver making a left feels he has the right to race or compete to make his turn first. WRONG! I also don't care for those who make their left at the same time I'm making a right because there are 2 lanes. In NY, that is illegal, I don't know about Florida. In either case it is unsafe, since there are a lot of drivers here who can't manage to keep their cars in their own lane on a straightaway, much less a turn, and neither driver is sure of the other's intention. This is also true of those who make a right on red or turn out of a parking lot---you don't get to race, and the same is true even if there are 2 or more lanes. I've seen a lot of near misses on 466, 466A, 44, and 441 when someone pulls out of a street or parking lot because the oncoming traffic is in the left lane, only to find that oncoming car was in the process of changing lanes.

[golfing eagles]

We need to differentiate between the roadway and the MMPs. The OP referred to car drivers stopping to let carts on the MMP cross the roadway. Carts do not have the same rights as autos in that situation. I've had carts pull out from the MMP in front of my car and stick their arm out telling me to stop! Now, when both are on the roadway, they have the same rights, and responsibilities, and must follow traffic laws.

I think most of them are sticking their arm out as a hand signal indicating a left turn, not as a demand to "stop"

[Mikeod]

I think most of them are sticking their arm out as a hand signal indicating a left turn, not as a demand to "stop"

Could be, but in the instances I have encountered it was the full wrist bent, palm facing me like a traffic cop. Unmistakeable. I think some feel the cart crossing lanes are like a pedestrian crosswalk and carts are treated like pedestrians within that lane. Not many, but some.

[golfing eagles]

Could be, but in the instances I have encountered it was the full wrist bent, palm facing me like a traffic cop. Unmistakeable. I think some feel the cart crossing lanes are like a pedestrian crosswalk and carts are treated like pedestrians within that lane. Not many, but some.

I've seen that one too. In the absence of being able to read their minds, and given the way they drive in general, I attributed it to wrist spasms:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[ColdNoMore]

I've seen that one too. In the absence of being able to read their minds, and given the way they drive in general, I attributed it to wrist spasms:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Carpal Tunnel relief...from previous life.



:D

[tomwed]

Carpal Tunnel relief...from previous life.



:D

You're right! I can zero in and spot that inflammation immediately. I was gifted with Carpal Tunnel Vision.