Dog Park Poll

[Responsible Dog Owners]

Thanks for all your help in my plea for a vote for the dog park issue. I wasn't aware I could create a "poll". I hope I'm doing this right.

The question is: Do you want a minimum of three community dog parks in TV? Two more parks would be constructed in like to Paradise Dog Park. One would be located in Marion County and one in Sumter County.

[John]

Still not sure how I feel about dog parks. I tend to side with Ceasar on this issue. I love the dogs, but many times the owners border on neurotic. It's not easy to allow the dogs to get to know each other, the way that dogs would in real life. The slightest snap, or gruff between two dogs, and the owners go ballistic, swoop up their precious little angels, and usually go into a rant, upsetting not just the immediate two in the encounter, but the entire population. So......, if it costs one dime, then no. Not interested.

[rozlee]

Yes from a two dog household. Two dog parks on site would be great.

[Responsible Dog Owners]

Thanks for your question. At this point there have been no discussions regarding cost to use the dog parks. There is no fee to use Paradise and it seems reasonable that there will be no fee for additional parks in Marion and Sumter County.

[nitehawk]

Maybe we could set-up some kind of a reservations system, that could be accessed from the Internet. Owners could see what dogs will be there at what time. They will be able to meet there favorite friends (both owners and dogs). This could be possible at a low price of maybe $8 per month - maybe combined with the golf tee time system at a reduced rate.

[784caroline]

Can someone elabrate more on the Training facility...what would this be comprised of and/or its purpose?? HOw would it function?

[Barefoot]

Still not sure how I feel about dog parks. The slightest snap, or gruff between two dogs, and the owners go ballistic, swoop up their precious little angels, and usually go into a rant, upsetting not just the immediate two in the encounter, but the entire population.

John, if a dog snaps or bites, in my experience it is a warning that the dog hasn't been socialized and doesn't want to play with other dogs.

At Doggie Doo Run Run, aggressive dogs that cause fights are banned. In twelve months at DDRR, I have only seen one aggressive dog. I assume most dog owners know very well if their dog is socialized and enjoys playing with other dogs.

Most dogs at DDRR play together without any problems. Sometimes there are 30 or more dogs there at one time. There are two separate areas at DDRR and at Paradise Park. One for dogs under 30 lbs and large dogs aren't allowed there. And one for dogs over 30 lbs. My 10 lb dog prefers to play with large dogs in "over 30 lb area" and that is allowed.

There is chasing and play growling and wrestling. All part of normal dog play. Very different from a dog that snaps or bites.

[Responsible Dog Owners]

Hi 784 Caroline,

Unfortunately I cannot give you specifics on what such a facility looks like. I do know it involves a covered, protected area with a hard flooring. You may want to call Sharon Starke: 259-8021. Sharon is the President of Dynamic Dog Club of The Villages and is proposing such a facility.

Karen

[billyb]

Good one. That's funny. You had me going there for a moment or two!

[billyb]

Maybe we could set-up some kind of a reservations system, that could be accessed from the Internet. Owners could see what dogs will be there at what time. They will be able to meet there favorite friends (both owners and dogs). This could be possible at a low price of maybe $8 per month - maybe combined with the golf tee time system at a reduced rate.

Good one. You had me going there for a few moments. :jester:

[ptsnyd]

I would love a dog park in Sumter near 466A
We go to the Lady Lake Dog Park on the corner of Rolling Acres and 466
and live in the Village of Hadley. We love the Lady Lake Park however
With 2 Dogs it's a long way to go on a golf cart

[Campbell soup]

Hello Barefoot. I have a question for you. I have a beautiful German Shephard who has not been socialized due to the fact ....that we do not have any dog runs in my neighborhood up here in Michigan.
We have bought a home in Duval...and will be moving down to TV in July. How do I go about get her socialized. She is a great dog and very nice around humans. However, I don't know if I can trust her around other dogs. Need some advice....Thanks Bob
:shrug:
John, if a dog snaps or bites, in my experience it is a warning that the dog hasn't been socialized and doesn't want to play with other dogs.

At Doggie Doo Run Run, aggressive dogs that cause fights are banned. In twelve months at DDRR, I have only seen one aggressive dog. I assume most dog owners know very well if their dog is socialized and enjoys playing with other dogs.

Most dogs at DDRR play together without any problems. Sometimes there are 30 or more dogs there at one time. There are two separate areas at DDRR and at Paradise Park. One for dogs under 30 lbs and large dogs aren't allowed there. And one for dogs over 30 lbs. My 10 lb dog prefers to play with large dogs in "over 30 lb area" and that is allowed.

There is chasing and play growling and wrestling. All part of normal dog play. Very different from a dog that snaps or bites.

[SUNNYMARYANN]

:oops: I have the same question. Although Cavaliers are very friendly and gentle dogs :jester:dont know how he would be with a real live dog other than his brother.

[KathieI]

I'll tell you from personal experience. The youngest schnauzer didn't do well. He was in all the big dogs faces not understanding how to be social and stop acting like a puppy. This frustrated me so much that I put him on a leash, kinda opposite of what was supposed to happen. So that's the last time he's going to DDRR. I could use some advice about how to socialize him.

[nONIE]

Oh that adorable Sammy! How can you get upset with a face like his?????

I have the same problem Kath. My 2 dogs want nothing to do with the others in the dog park. I see the others playing and having a grand ol time and my two are totally unsocial.

Are there any dog socialization experts out there that have some advice? I cant even get my 2 to move unless I walk with them!

[MGoeden]

Actually John, it is a two sided problem.......not only the owner with the dog who is being "attacked" but what about the owner of the dog who is doing the attacking. My recent experience at the dog park on CR103 was several dogs came after my 6 month old and scared him.......now he is very skittish when approached by any dog that is in the least aggressive.......both parties need to take responsibility. Mary

[MGoeden]

Thank you Barefoot......I definitely concur!

[Barefoot]

Hello Barefoot. I have a question for you. I have a beautiful German Shephard who has not been socialized due to the fact ....that we do not have any dog runs in my neighborhood up here in Michigan. We have bought a home in Duval...and will be moving down to TV in July. How do I go about get her socialized. She is a great dog and very nice around humans. However, I don't know if I can trust her around other dogs. Need some advice....Thanks Bob :shrug:

Hey Bob, congratulations on your new home in Duval.

Dogs need to be socialized gradually. I always start my dogs off in Obedience classes when they are young. This gets them used to being around other animals. I also have a lot of friends with dogs, so they are around dogs a lot when they're growing up.

When you are walking your dog in your neighbourhood in Michigan, is she friendly with other dogs? Wagging tails and sniffing each other? If so, she probably would be fine at the dog park.

Actually dogs are usually more aggressive when they're on a leash because they feel trapped. That is why leashes are prohibited within the DDRR dog park.

If your dog is growling and lunging at other dogs when she is on a leash, she needs socialization. I have some ideas for you to try if this is the case. Just let me know what kind of behavior she exhibits when she sees other dogs. I watch a lot of dog training programs on TV. "End of the Leash" is one I watch, "Me or the Dog" is another. The Dog Whisperer is excellent. I'm attending a one day seminar tomorrow on dog training .. it is one of my favourite things.

Nonie, you don't have a problem with Clara and Georgie not being socialized! They behave very well around other animals. Your dogs simply prefer humans to dogs. You might trying rewarding them with a small treat every 10 minutes when you're at DDRR, thereby creating pleasant associations for them.

Think of it like this. You don't care if you ever learn to play mahjongg. I am bored silly by sewing. And your dogs don't care if they ever play with other dogs. Just personal preference.

[JeanneBeannie]

You sure do know your stuff Barefoot!! :eclipsee_gold_cup:.

If Lolli every has babies please let me know...she is beautiful!!

I have the opposite problem, which is why I was looking for a house with a fence lol. All my dogs want to do is play lol!! (Golden Retrievers). When they see another dog, they get so excited...or too excited lol which is why I need a fence lol. They love romping around with other doggies! :pepper2:.

[KathieI]

You sure do know your stuff Barefoot!! :eclipsee_gold_cup:.

If Lolli every has babies please let me know...she is beautiful!!

I have the opposite problem, which is why I was looking for a house with a fence lol. All my dogs want to do is play lol!! (Golden Retrievers). When they see another dog, they get so excited...or too excited lol which is why I need a fence lol. They love romping around with other doggies! :pepper2:.

Me too Jeanne, I think the next house will definitely be one with a fence. They love to romp around with each other but with strange dogs they just misbehave.

Bare, I didn't know leashes were prohibited at DDRR?

[Barefoot]

Bare, I didn't know leashes were prohibited at DDRR?


Dogs should be leashed until they enter the actual DDRR fenced park. Then, no leashes. I'm pretty sure there is a sign. The theory being that leashed dogs are more aggressive. Other dogs will come bounding up to a leashed dog and he will feel threatened because he can't get away. So instead he will show aggression. And that sets a negative pattern.

I've rarely seen dogs fight at the Dog Park but there is lots of play growling and wrestling and chasing. Luckily owners can choose to segregate the large dogs from the small dogs. But in the back five acres they all mix and get along.

It is a fun place, very clean and well run. I go there every day when I'm in Florida.

[Taltarzac]

Dogs should be leashed until they enter the actual DDRR fenced park. Then, no leashes. I'm pretty sure there is a sign. The theory being that leashed dogs are more aggressive. Other dogs will come bounding up to a leashed dog and he will feel threatened because he can't get away. So instead he will show aggression. And that sets a negative pattern.

I've rarely seen dogs fight at the Dog Park but there is lots of play growling and wrestling and chasing. Luckily owners can choose to segregate the large dogs from the small dogs. But in the back five acres they all mix and get along.

It is a fun place, very clean and well run. I go there every day when I'm in Florida.


....at Doggie Doo Run Run about no leashes within the dog park. The rule sign does mention that dogs are to be leashed when entering and exiting the dog park.

Many people who are regulars at the DDRR though will go up to newbies who leash their dogs the first couple of times they are at DDRR. Barefoot is right that the leashed dogs often feel trapped and can get aggressive. They are also much more prone to be protective of their owners. Dogs being protective of their owners has been a major problem with the behavior of some individual dogs at DDRR. This is their behavior with other dogs and even people.

There are a lot of responsible dog owners at DDRR who look out for one another.

[chelsea24]

We need a DDRR on the south side! Absolutely! And rumor has it there are two more beautiful dogs moving into Hadley shortly! Teddy and Patience. All of the wonderful furry friends deserve a park in their area!

[nONIE]

:agree: We definitely do need more Dog parks to accomodate so many dogs that are in The Villages and more moving in all the time.

Just hoping that grass is planted in them to keep the dirt, dust and sometimes mud levels down.:yuck: It makes a huge difference.

[pccolhoun]

As a resident of The Bonita Villages area we need a dog park in the southern part of The Villages. A number of us used to get our dogs together and now there are houses in "our fields". The 2 footed and 4 footed members of the community need a large place for the interactions, socializations, etc. The owners must take the responsibility for their animals.

[katezbox]

Dear Tal and Bare...

We have been in TV for 2 1/2 days and Finley has has the time of his life at DDRR twice already. Thanks to both of you (and GMoney who is not on this thread) for all your recommendations on DDRR.

PC - we also live in Bonita and it is a bit of a ride but well worth it.

DDRR is clean, well run and the best dog park we have been to. We met wonderful people and doggies on bith days.

We also began to socialize Finley when he was very young - after he had all his initial shots. He was a bit of a whimpery baby and our vet thought this would be an issue as he got older. We made sure it didn't and he loves to play with doggies of all sizes. He loves cats too - but they don't always return the favor.

Kate

PS _ I would like a dog park further south, but it will be hard to compare with DDRR.

[Barefoot]

Dear Tal and Bare...

We have been in TV for 2 1/2 days and Finley has has the time of his life at DDRR twice already. Thanks to both of you (and GMoney who is not on this thread) for all your recommendations on DDRR. DDRR is clean, well run and the best dog park we have been to. We met wonderful people and doggies on bith days. PS _ I would like a dog park further south, but it will be hard to compare with DDRR.

Kate, I'm so pleased that you and Findlay are enjoying Doggie Doo Run Run. Have you found the hanging swings in the back lot? (Three times around the back lot is a mile, just in case you're wondering!)

We have a dog park here in Canada but it pales in comparison to DDRR. I love that place! Biggins, Lolli Pup and myself can hardly wait to get back to The Bubble and the Dog Park!

[Taltarzac]

Dear Tal and Bare...

We have been in TV for 2 1/2 days and Finley has has the time of his life at DDRR twice already. Thanks to both of you (and GMoney who is not on this thread) for all your recommendations on DDRR.

PC - we also live in Bonita and it is a bit of a ride but well worth it.

DDRR is clean, well run and the best dog park we have been to. We met wonderful people and doggies on bith days.

We also began to socialize Finley when he was very young - after he had all his initial shots. He was a bit of a whimpery baby and our vet thought this would be an issue as he got older. We made sure it didn't and he loves to play with doggies of all sizes. He loves cats too - but they don't always return the favor.

Kate

PS _ I would like a dog park further south, but it will be hard to compare with DDRR.


DDRR is the best dog park in the area IMHO. I have not been to the ones in Inverness nor Ocala but that's pretty far to go when the DDRR is almost always available.

[dillywho]

of more dog parks since that will be a good place for people to take their dogs instead of the town squares. This is also being addressed in another thread. I love animals and they need their own place to be with other dogs and not lots of people, traffic and noise. My dog is too old to enjoy the company of other dogs or we would go to a park in a heartbeat.

[Barefoot]

My dog is too old to enjoy the company of other dogs or we would go to a park in a heartbeat.

Dilly, perhaps you should give it a try .. you might be surprised.

My big dog, twelve years old, (who recently had to be euthanized) really enjoyed the dog park. He didn't play much with other dogs, he had operations on both his back knees. But he really got excited and brightened up when we went to DDRR.

[dillywho]

Dilly, perhaps you should give it a try .. you might be surprised.

My big dog, twelve years old, (who recently had to be euthanized) really enjoyed the dog park. He didn't play much with other dogs, he had operations on both his back knees. But he really got excited and brightened up when we went to DDRR.

Thanks for the suggestion, but it just doesn't work for him. Our neighbors have dogs and we have tried to socialize him with them, but he wants no part of it. He's just about to turn 17 and is pretty much blind and deaf. He used to really enjoy people and other animals but not anymore. He is not in pain yet, but when he gets to that point, we will have him put down. Right now, he just enjoys his naps next to my husband and/or the cat or the safety of his crate. From what I know of DDRR it would be the ideal place for us were things different.

[Barefoot]

Thanks for the suggestion, but it just doesn't work for him. Our neighbors have dogs and we have tried to socialize him with them, but he wants no part of it. He's just about to turn 17 and is pretty much blind and deaf. He used to really enjoy people and other animals but not anymore. He is not in pain yet, but when he gets to that point, we will have him put down. Right now, he just enjoys his naps next to my husband and/or the cat or the safety of his crate. From what I know of DDRR it would be the ideal place for us were things different.

Dilly, I didn't realize your dog is almost 17. Of course DDRR wouldn't be of interest to him. He absolutely deserves his quiet time with the people he loves.

[Ray G. Rinard]

Good one. You had me going there for a few moments. :jester:

My experience is that if dogs get togeather, they are generally good and mannerly. I think it is a great idea to have a dog park in Marion county for those living there, such as myself and I feel several would participate. Ray Rinard

[Ray G. Rinard]

Thanks for all your help in my plea for a vote for the dog park issue. I wasn't aware I could create a "poll". I hope I'm doing this right.

The question is: Do you want a minimum of three community dog parks in TV? Two more parks would be constructed in like to Paradise Dog Park. One would be located in Marion County and one in Sumter County.

I believe the Poll is closed, but I say it is a great idea. Thanks, Ray Rinard

[The Great Fumar]

I have to admit that although I don't have a dog, I do think that Marion county should have a doggie park.....
I would like to suggest that one be built near ORLANDO ,,,,I would even make a donation ......

fumar the contributor . ..:a040:

[withease23]

Yes, the poll has closed and the results are as indicated above.

:chilout: Fumar, this is the second time you've taken your obviously unimportant time to send a rather discourteous note regarding dog parks. :ohdear: I truly am sorry you feel so negative about dogs and dog owners. :blahblahblah: Oh and by the way when you've lived here as long as most of us you'll realize Orlando is not in Marion County. Why not try your distorted humor on another forum?:wave:

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes, the poll has closed and the results are as indicated above.

:chilout: Fumar, this is the second time you've taken your obviously unimportant time to send a rather discourteous note regarding dog parks. :ohdear: I truly am sorry you feel so negative about dogs and dog owners. :blahblahblah: Oh and by the way when you've lived here as long as most of us you'll realize Orlando is not in Marion County. Why not try your distorted humor on another forum?:wave:
Was that humor? And I thought he was serious.

[Barefoot]

Yes, the poll has closed and the results are as indicated above.

:chilout: Fumar, this is the second time you've taken your obviously unimportant time to send a rather discourteous note regarding dog parks. :ohdear: I truly am sorry you feel so negative about dogs and dog owners. :blahblahblah: Oh and by the way when you've lived here as long as most of us you'll realize Orlando is not in Marion County. Why not try your distorted humor on another forum?:wave:

Oh, don't worry about Fumar, we usually just ignore him on dog issues. His bark is worse than his bite. :laugh:

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes, the poll has closed and the results are as indicated above.

:
Great poll. 62 out of 70,000.

[Responsible Dog Owners]

:pepper2: I am delighted to report that following yesterday's AAC meeting, "members agreed to explore the possibility of placing a dog park near the Village of Springdale swimming pool. The Board however rejected a request by the Dynamic Dog Club to consider adding a training facility on the grounds." As reported in the Daily Sun today.

The Responsible Dog Owners Group in conjunction with the Dog Park Resident Board will prepare a presentation to the Sumter Landing Community District to discuss exploring possible sites on the south side of 466. Any residents interested in joining this group may contact Karen Tynes: 750-1627 or responsibledogownersgroup@embarqmail.com. :crap2:

Our sincere thanks to the administrators of TOTV for the guidance and assistance in getting the word out to dog owners and non-dog owners alike. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

[zcaveman]

Yes, the poll has closed and the results are as indicated above.

:chilout: Fumar, this is the second time you've taken your obviously unimportant time to send a rather discourteous note regarding dog parks. :ohdear: I truly am sorry you feel so negative about dogs and dog owners. :blahblahblah: Oh and by the way when you've lived here as long as most of us you'll realize Orlando is not in Marion County. Why not try your distorted humor on another forum?:wave:

The Great Fumar probably meant Ocala which is in Marion county.

[The Great Fumar]

Yes, the poll has closed and the results are as indicated above.

:chilout: Fumar, this is the second time you've taken your obviously unimportant time to send a rather discourteous note regarding dog parks. :ohdear: I truly am sorry you feel so negative about dogs and dog owners. :blahblahblah: Oh and by the way when you've lived here as long as most of us you'll realize Orlando is not in Marion County. Why not try your distorted humor on another forum?:wave:

I'm shocked , For the last six years I have been under the supposition that Ocala was in fact Orlando...Now thats really embarrassing when I think of all my northern friends that I have directed to Disneyworld in Ocala...
Although some of my friends are dog owners , I still am trying to show them the error of their ways.....Also if you think the ACC is going to spend money on a dog park ...........Then your much funnier than I ...

ps You might want to change DOG PARK POLL to DOG PARK TOLL ,, just a thought !!!

2nd banana Fumar

[chuckster]

Sorry, but no way do I desire a dog park and all the noise that goes with it (check out the houses for sale bordering DDR along #4 Fox Run-Glenview) supported by my amenity fees any where near me south of 466. The mail facilities vegetations are already ruined by "doggy" urine allowed by uncaring owners. This is from a pet owner. And I agree with the "great Fumar".:bowdown:

[jmckean144]

I believe we have the best dog park -- Lady Lake Dog Park. The people are very friendly.

[Karen Buchholzer]

Can someone please tell me where the dog runs are???
thank you, karen

[Taltarzac]

Can someone please tell me where the dog runs are???
thank you, karen



"Doggie Doo Run Run. Private Dog Park - Day care. Four fenced, all grass areas. 1.5 acre for small dogs, 2.5 for large/general population, 1 acre w/agility equipment and 3 acres "out back" (still fenced) for the real runners/wanders or just some quiet time with their owner. Covered seating, coffee/tea for owners, water and wading pools and lots of toys. Not many shade trees. Always staffed and THEY clean up the poop! Just leave a flag marker, and walk away. Fee is $3 a day or $20 a month. Staff and Owner are awesome and dog lovers and it shows. They also offer day care and "non-kennel" boarding. Location: 12971 CR101 at CR104. Directions: This is just outside of The Villages and Lady Lake, one mile east of CR301. Easiest access is to go one mile north on CR101 from CR466. On east (right) at intersection with CR104. (Thank you Tristan Gutknecht)"
http://www.ecoanimal.com/dogfun/florida.html

This looks current for Doggie Doo Run Run.

The Paradise Lake Dog Park is on the south end of Paradise Drive off of Lake Wales Plaza. It is at the east end of the golf cart bridge over US 27/441.

The Mulberry Dog Park is just east of the Nancy Lopez Country Club and just east of the Springdale Fitness Trail.

The Lady Lake Dog Park is near the intersection (northeast section) of CR 466 and Rolling Acres Road near the driving
range and softball diamonds.

[Barefoot]

"Doggie Doo Run Run. Private Dog Park - Day care. Four fenced, all grass areas. 1.5 acre for small dogs, 2.5 for large/general population, 1 acre w/agility equipment and 3 acres "out back" (still fenced) for the real runners/wanders or just some quiet time with their owner. Covered seating, coffee/tea for owners, water and wading pools and lots of toys. Not many shade trees. Always staffed and THEY clean up the poop! Just leave a flag marker, and walk away. Fee is $3 a day or $20 a month. Staff and Owner are awesome and dog lovers and it shows. They also offer day care and "non-kennel" boarding. Location: 12971 CR101 at CR104. Directions: This is just outside of The Villages and Lady Lake, one mile east of CR301. Easiest access is to go one mile north on CR101 from CR466. On east (right) at intersection with CR104. (Thank you Tristan Gutknecht)"
http://www.ecoanimal.com/dogfun/florida.html

This looks current for Doggie Doo Run Run.

The Paradise Lake Dog Park is on the south end of Paradise Drive off of Lake Wales Plaza. It is at the east end of the golf cart bridge over US 27/441.

The Mulberry Dog Park is just east of the Nancy Lopez Country Club and just east of the Springdale Fitness Trail.

The Lady Lake Dog Park is near the intersection (northeast section) of CR 466 and Rolling Acres Road near the driving
range and softball diamonds.

I pay $25 per month for Dog #1 (Biggins) and $5 per month for Dog #2 (Lolli Pup/aka Twisted Sister). A dollar a day to take two dogs to Doggie Doo Run Run. What a great bargain!!

I love that place. So clean and well mantained. In the large fenced back area you can sit on a hanging swing and watch horses on the neighbouring farms. Priceless. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

[schotzyb]

Love it!! Well worth the price. Ringo don't want to go anywhere else.

[Taltarzac]

Love it!! Well worth the price. Ringo don't want to go anywhere else.

This blurb I quoted does look a little out of date for prices and coffee and tea.

"Doggie Doo Run Run. Private Dog Park - Day care. Four fenced, all grass areas. 1.5 acre for small dogs, 2.5 for large/general population, 1 acre w/agility equipment and 3 acres "out back" (still fenced) for the real runners/wanders or just some quiet time with their owner. Covered seating, coffee/tea for owners, water and wading pools and lots of toys. Not many shade trees. Always staffed and THEY clean up the poop! Just leave a flag marker, and walk away. Fee is $3 a day or $20 a month. Staff and Owner are awesome and dog lovers and it shows. They also offer day care and "non-kennel" boarding. Location: 12971 CR101 at CR104. Directions: This is just outside of The Villages and Lady Lake, one mile east of CR301. Easiest access is to go one mile north on CR101 from CR466. On east (right) at intersection with CR104. (Thank you Tristan Gutknecht)"


I also pay $25 per month for one dog per month or $3 per day. It is well worth the price.

The two Villages dog parks (Mulberry and Paradise Lake) are free for residents of the Villages with i.d.s but you have to clean up after the dogs.

I believe Lady Lake Dog Park is $40 per year but it is only open from 9 to 12 noon.