time for repubs to practice saying, Madam president

[jebartle]

Can't wait till nov. 8th.

[Fredster]

If that happens, it will truly be a very sad day for America!

[MDLNB]

CNN had a focus group for the last debate. The focus group consisted of undecideds. Wow, were they surprised when they asked them who won the debate. TRUMP won according to the undecideds from the Clinton Network (CNN).

[Whooter]

That is delusional

[ColdNoMore]

Can't wait till nov. 8th.

Yep. :thumbup:

[MDLNB]

That is delusional

I know. Isn't it funny that CNN heard the truth for a change? I have no idea where you get "delusional" but I am sure you have a reason. CNN has been a major Hillary donor and thought that they would give the appearance that someone supported her. The joke was on them when everyone said Trump won the debate.

[billethkid]

If that happens, it will truly be a very sad day for America!

The most frightening of all truths.

I have spent 8 years not viewing Obama as "my" president.
I would not follow him to a free lunch across the street.
When ever he comes on the television I automatically switch channels.

So having been trained for 8 years with a phony president, GOD forbid the shrieker should win, I certainly will continue my practice of not watching her. If it is possible I detest and dislike and disrespect her more than Obama.....if that is possible. You will be able to spot my house as it will be the flag pole with the black ribbons streaming from it.

I refuse to respect a known criminal that the media and the establishment has rigged into office.

But that is all negative thinking. I much more prefer someone who is not the establishment. I fully accept what folks don't like that hes says. He is far better than what Clinton has done and said.

[graciegirl]

I strongly suspect I know just who started this thread. The same old same old pot stirrer.








I have to be myself. Everyone else is taken.

[John_W]

Can't wait till nov. 8th.


Is that because you can't wait for 65,000 plus Syrians moving to the USA? That's right, you don't have to worry, you live in The Villages! Just dump on the rest of the country, you should be proud.

[dirtbanker]

If we have to say it the good news is it wont be for long...

Hillary Clinton’s Blackberry Blues Place National Security at Risk?

There is no longer any question that Hillary Clinton’s email scheme jeopardized our national security. Look no further than what we revealed this week.

We released new documents containing email correspondence between former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Gen. David Petraeus, in which she had what she termed “blackberry blues” over her inability to use her BlackBerry inside her secure office. The FBI recovered these new emails from those not turned over by Hillary Clinton.

These emails are government documents and not personal emails, as Clinton claims in defending her decision to not turn over 30,000 emails sent or received by her as secretary of state. The emails also show she knew about the security issues of her BlackBerry use (and yet denied recalling anything about it or refused to answer our questions).

In the newly obtained email exchanges, Clinton also told Petraeus, “If there is ever anything you need or want me to know, pls use this personal email address” – hr15@att.blackberry.net – when corresponding with her. Petraeus, at the time of the email from Clinton, was the Commander of the United States Central Command, overseeing U.S. military efforts in critical areas, stretching from Northeast Africa across the Middle East to Central and South Asia, and including Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Egypt.

The new documents were among the nearly 15,000 Clinton emails discovered by the FBI, and obtained in response to a court order in a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit for State Department records about Clinton’s separate email system (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:15-cv-00689)).

On January 28, 2008, only one week after becoming secretary of state, Clinton sent an email to Petraeus from her non-state.gov email account apologizing for her “tardy” response to his earlier email and blaming it on what she termed “blackberry blues”:

From: H [mailto:hdr22@clintonmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:33 PM
To: Petraeus, David H. GEN USA
Subject: Re: Follow up

David – Sorry to be so tardy in responding. I’ve had blackberry blues. I can’t use mine all day long since my whole office is a SCIF [Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility]. I don’t yet have a computer and I had to change my address and lost some of my traffic.

(The State Department represented to a federal court that Hillary Clinton did not have a State Department computer.)

Shortly before taking office, Clinton emailed Petraeus asking that he use only her personal email account when contacting her. At the time, Petraeus was the Commander of the United States Central Command:

From: hr15@att.blackberry.net
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:57 PM
To: Petraeus, David H. GEN USA
Subject: Follow up

Dear Dave,

Thanks for giving me so much of your time the last two nights. I appreciated our conversations and enjoyed the chance to see you and Richard becoming acquainted. I’m looking forward to working w you both. If there is ever anything you need or want me to know, pls use this personal email address. All the best, Hillary.

Also included in the new emails is a response from Colin Powell to a January 23, 2009, message from Clinton detailing Powell’s warning to keep her BlackBerry use secret to circumvent federal records laws:

However there is real danger. If it is public that you have a BlackBerry and … you are using it, government or not to do business, it may become an official record and subject to the law….Be very careful. I got around it all by not saying much …

(The Powell email had previously been released.)

Our lawyers specifically asked about Clinton’s BlackBerry use as part of the twenty-five questions submitted on August 30 to Clinton as ordered by U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan (see especially her answers to questions 14, 15, and 16).

In December 2015, thanks to a federal court order, we released documents containing more than 50 State Department internal emails from 2009 and 2011 warning of serious security concerns involving the use by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her staff of “highly vulnerable” BlackBerrys in the executive offices of the Foggy Bottom headquarters.

The discussion included a March 2, 2009, internal memorandum from Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security Eric Boswell in which he advised Clinton and her Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills of “the vulnerabilities and risks associated with the use of BlackBerrys in Mahogany Row [seventh floor executive offices] considerably outweigh their convenience.” Testimony by Cheryl Mills in separate Judicial Watch litigation suggests Clinton used her BlackBerry in her office’s Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF), despite security rules prohibiting the use of such devices in secure areas.

These new emails show the truth that the separate email system was never a matter of “convenience” for Mrs. Clinton. She wanted to hide her emails from the American people.

And her request to Petraeus while he was the Commander of the United States Central Command to communicate with her solely at her unsecure email address shows Hillary Clinton’s willful negligence in handling national defense information.

It’s now clear why she deleted or withheld so many and why Mrs. Clinton didn’t recall or declined to answer our questions about her email security.



New Emails Raise Questions about Hillary Clinton’s Sworn Testimony

Many Americans may be despairing as news comes out week after week of the FBI and Justice Department’s corrupted investigation of the Clinton email matter. But you can rest assured that your JW is on the case. Indeed, the latest from our own independent investigation might warrant the attention of honest law enforcement.

In her sworn responses to the questions in our written deposition, Hillary Clinton said she “did not recall” communicating with her IT specialist about her clintonemail.com account. Inconveniently for her, we now have emails making that excuse look rather flimsy.

We just released another batch of State Department documents uncovered by the FBI. The emails included reveal direct communications between Clinton and her top IT specialist, Bryan Pagliano, about clintonemail.com management problems.

Clinton claimed under oath that she “does not recall having communications” with Pagliano relating to the email system. Clinton’s emails to Pagliano, who installed and maintained the clintonemail.com computer system in the Clinton’s New York home, relate to email management problems with Clinton’s BlackBerry.

The FBI recovered these emails from those not turned over by Hillary Clinton. These new emails are government documents and not personal emails as Hillary Clinton claimed in defending her decision to not turn over 30,000 emails sent or received by her as Secretary of State.

The new documents were among the nearly 15,000 Clinton emails discovered by the FBI and obtained in response to an April 8, 2016, federal court order directing the Department of State to begin producing materials for Judicial Watch in response to a September 3, 2015, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:15-cv-01441)). The lawsuit was filed after State failed to comply with an August 5, 2015 FOIA request seeking information about Bryan Pagliano’s involvement with Clinton’s email system.

Several “Test” messages were sent between Pagliano, Clinton, and her then-Deputy Chief of Staff Jon Davidson on September 2, 2011. And on March 2012 Clinton writes to Pagliano, “Once again, I’m having BB [BlackBerry] trouble”:

From: H

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:45 AM

To: Justin Cooper, Bryan Pagliano [Cooper was a senior advisor to Bill Clinton]

Cc: Oscar Floras [manager of Clinton’s New York home]

Subject: Help!

Once again, I’m having BB trouble. I am not receiving emails although people are getting ones I send but I get their replies on my IP. I’ve taken out the battery and done what I know to do but with no luck yet any ideas?

***

From: H

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:54 AM

To: Justin Cooper

Cc: Bryan M. Pagliano, Oscar Flores

Subject: Re: Help!

Thanks, Justin. How does that happen. do I need to do anything?

***

From: Bryan Pagliano

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:32 AM

To: H

Cc: Justin Cooper, Oscar Flores

Subject: Re: Help!

Let me take a look at the server to see if it offers any insight. iPhone is not much different from iPad, however in both cases the security landscape is different from the blackberry.

-Bryan

***

From: H hdr22@clintonemail.com

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:44 AM

To: Justin Cooper

Cc: Bryan M. Pagliano, Oscar Flores

Subject: Re:

Thanks again. I’m back in business.

On October 13, 2016, we released Clinton’s responses given under oath to 25 questions we posed as ordered by U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in separate litigation. The final question reads:

Identify all communications between you and Brian Pagliano concerning or relating to the management, preservation, deletion, or destruction of any emails in your clintonemail.com email account, including any instruction or direction to Mr. Pagliano about the management, preservation, deletion, or destruction of emails in your account when transferring the clintonemail.com email system to any alternate or replacement server. For each communication, identify the time, date, place, manner (e.g., in person, in (e.g., in person, in writing, by telephone, or by electronic or other means), persons present or participating, and content of the communication.

Clinton’s response:

Secretary Clinton objects to Interrogatory No. 25 on the ground that it requests information that is outside the scope of permitted discovery for the reasons set forth in General Objection No. 5. Secretary Clinton further objects to Interrogatory No. 25 on the ground that the word “management” is vague. Secretary Clinton further objects to Interrogatory No. 25 insofar as it requests information related to alternate or replacement servers used after Secretary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State. Subject to and without waiving the foregoing objections, Secretary Clinton states that she does not recall having communications with Bryan Pagliano concerning or relating to the management, preservation, deletion, or destruction of any e-mails in her clintonemail.com email account. [Emphasis added]

Clinton also claimed she “does not recall” 20 times in her responses given under oath.

In addition, Judicial Watch deposed Bryan Pagliano in June. He invoked his Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate himself more than 125 times, including:

Q. During your tenure at the State Department, did you communicate with Secretary Clinton by e-mail?

A. On the advice of counsel, I will decline to answer your question in reliance on my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

These newly exposed emails leave little doubt that Hillary Clinton was less than forthright and misled the public when she wrote, under oath, that she ‘does not recall’ communicating with Bryan Pagliano about her email scheme. Again, no wonder Clinton and her agents deleted these emails time and time again. And remember: these smoking gun emails would never have seen the light of day but for Judicial Watch’s federal lawsuits.

[ColdNoMore]

I strongly suspect I know just who started this thread. The same old same old pot stirrer.



I have to be myself. Everyone else is taken.

I strongly suspect I know who posted this post. :1rotfl:

Especially since the names are showing when the post is quoted. :oops:

OH NO, better go run and hide....until they fix it for good. :ohdear:

[mickey100]

The most frightening of all truths.

I have spent 8 years not viewing Obama as "my" president.
I would not follow him to a free lunch across the street.
When ever he comes on the television I automatically switch channels.

So having been trained for 8 years with a phony president, GOD forbid the shrieker should win, I certainly will continue my practice of not watching her. If it is possible I detest and dislike and disrespect her more than Obama.....if that is possible. You will be able to spot my house as it will be the flag pole with the black ribbons streaming from it.

I refuse to respect a known criminal that the media and the establishment has rigged into office.

But that is all negative thinking. I much more prefer someone who is not the establishment. I fully accept what folks don't like that hes says. He is far better than what Clinton has done and said.

Of course, Billethkid - you can't stand having a black man as President, therefore a woman would be unacceptable as well. Flag pole with black ribbons??? What are you like in 8th grade? Such hatred. what a waste. And you'd like a man in office that brags about assaulting women. Nice.

[mickey100]

Can't wait till nov. 8th.

Me too! :bigbow:

[dirtbanker]

Blah, Blah, blah...racist, meanie, womanizer...blah, blah, blah...And you'd like a man in office that brags about assaulting women. Nice.

And you would rather have a Crooked politician over that???

[dirtbanker]

Of course, Billethkid - you can't stand having a black man as President

What? Who is the black man that is president??

[billethkid]

Of course, Billethkid - you can't stand having a black man as President, therefore a woman would be unacceptable as well. Flag pole with black ribbons??? What are you like in 8th grade? Such hatred. what a waste. And you'd like a man in office that brags about assaulting women. Nice.

Such childish conclusion. I guess they fit your agenda and commentary.

However. You are very mistakenly wrong.

I don't need you or anybody with a political agenda attempt to pin a racial designation to my post. Anybody who knows me or ever worked for me knows I am color and gender blind.

For me it is all about competency. Performance....promises made VS promises kept. And no excuses or alibis or blaming the prior management. They own it from day one.
This criteria, would rule out most politicians.

Obama as far as I am concerned was easily identified, in executive capabilitlity, unable to handle the task. I determined that after waiting until his first state of the union ....over a year. In my corporate American company he would have been out the door before the year was up.

The same goes for women. Show me a person who is competent and performs to expectation. Clinton's resume' would not have made the first cut of candidates.

So take you political, racist, feminist incorrect accusations to somebody you know.

PS...hatred has nothing what so ever to do with it.....as disappointing as that may be for you.

[Rockyrd]

Such childish conclusion. I guess they fit your agenda and commentary.

However. You are very mistakenly wrong.

I don't need you or anybody with a political agenda attempt to pin a racial designation to my post. Anybody who knows me or ever worked for me knows I am color and gender blind.

For me it is all about competency. Performance....promises made VS promises kept. And no excuses or alibis or blaming the prior management. They own it from day one.
This criteria, would rule out most politicians.

Obama as far as I am concerned was easily identified, in executive capabilitlity, unable to handle the task. I determined that after waiting until his first state of the union ....over a year. In my corporate American company he would have been out the door before the year was up.

The same goes for women. Show me a person who is competent and performs to expectation. Clinton's resume' would not have made the first cut of candidates.

So take you political, racist, feminist incorrect accusations to somebody you know.

PS...hatred has nothing what so ever to do with it.....as disappointing as that may be for you.

Speaking of resumes...this, and so many others that for some reason Trump supporters do not read or ignore, but this is akin to many other stories on this insane man...

"Billionaire and Virgin Group founder Richard Branson published a blog post on Friday recalling his first interaction with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, in which Trump reportedly vowed to spend the rest of his life seeking revenge on five people who had refused to help him

Branson said their encounter took place years ago, when Trump had invited him to a one-on-one lunch in his Manhattan apartment.

"Even before the starters arrived he began telling me about how he had asked a number of people for help after his latest bankruptcy and how five of them were unwilling to help," Branson wrote, although he didn't identify the five people.

"He told me he was going to spend the rest of his life destroying these five people."

Branson called the encounter "bizarre" and expressed concerns about Trump's "vindictive streak," which he said wouldn't bode well for a president who should be more concerned with global affairs than personal vendettas."

Richard Branson: Trump said he'd spend his life 'destroying' 5 people - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/richard-branson-on-meeting-donald-trump-2016-10)

You can find this real true stories about this terribly immoral man who will eventually line his pockets even more off those folks who hate Clinton so very much, they grabbed onto an anchor who frankly has absolutely no redeeming qualities.

Again, not a Clinton supporter by any stretch of any imagination, but a blustery liar void of ANY moral compass who has told you so very many lies does not deserve to be in this limelight.

Not only is he instilling a hatred in our country, he is dragging the GOP to a depth it has not been in.

Do you supporters ever read about his promises he makes..do you ever even read about how impossible what he promises is...do you know about the Breitbart team, and their goals ?

He uses the old "everyone is against me" line, but people are against him because he is talking nothing but stupidity and because you hate Clinton so much, you simply refuse to realize what is happening.

Any of you who are Republicans and fear a liberal takeover, YOU are giving that to the Democrats. That part cannot be stopped..it's already too late.

[tomwed]

Helpful hints:
No one reads long posts.
Provide a link to make your point and some will follow.
Good Luck

[graciegirl]

I strongly suspect I know who posted this post. :1rotfl:

Especially since the names are showing when the post is quoted. :oops:

OH NO, better go run and hide....until they fix it for good. :ohdear:

That is the reason I put my saying at the bottom, Peaches. I am not afraid to have people know who typed this.

This is amazing...and kind of wonderful to see some folks outed. Tee hee.

[graciegirl]

Of course, Billethkid - you can't stand having a black man as President, therefore a woman would be unacceptable as well. Flag pole with black ribbons??? What are you like in 8th grade? Such hatred. what a waste. And you'd like a man in office that brags about assaulting women. Nice.

I don't think Bille sounds hateful. He is a person who has been successful in business and in life and lives comfortably with an intelligent, strong woman. He has never shown to me any bias of the kind suggested. Never, in nine years.

G.G.

[Polar Bear]

I strongly suspect I know who posted this post. :1rotfl:

Especially since the names are showing when the post is quoted...
And the poster included her signature in the post.

Man, you're right on top of things as usual.

[ColdNoMore]

And the poster included her signature in the post.

Man, you're right on top of things as usual.

Not in the post I quoted...it only did it AFTER I quoted the post. ;)

Besides, if she was even half bright she wouldn't have needed to say... "I strongly suspect I know just who started this thread. The same old same old pot stirrer."

She could have just quoted the post...to see who started it. :oops:


But hey, maybe you should change your name to 'Posse Bear'...so it would be much more accurate. :D

[graciegirl]

Not in the post I quoted...it only did it AFTER I quoted the post. ;)

Besides, if she was even half bright she wouldn't have needed to say... "I strongly suspect I know just who started this thread. The same old same old pot stirrer."

She could have just quoted the post...to see who started it. :oops:


But hey, maybe you should change your name to 'Posse Bear'...so it would be much more accurate. :D

Just curious.

[Chi-Town]

The most frightening of all truths.

I have spent 8 years not viewing Obama as "my" president.
I would not follow him to a free lunch across the street.
When ever he comes on the television I automatically switch channels.

So having been trained for 8 years with a phony president, GOD forbid the shrieker should win, I certainly will continue my practice of not watching her. If it is possible I detest and dislike and disrespect her more than Obama.....if that is possible. You will be able to spot my house as it will be the flag pole with the black ribbons streaming from it.

I refuse to respect a known criminal that the media and the establishment has rigged into office.

But that is all negative thinking. I much more prefer someone who is not the establishment. I fully accept what folks don't like that hes says. He is far better than what Clinton has done and said.

Billy, I know what you've been through having years of frustration and angst caused by circumstances you can't change. And many times I have switched the channel to prevent any more pain. But I'm still going to watch the Cubs game tomorrow night. Go Cubs!





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[MDLNB]

Not in the post I quoted...it only did it AFTER I quoted the post. ;)

Besides, if she was even half bright she wouldn't have needed to say... "I strongly suspect I know just who started this thread. The same old same old pot stirrer."

She could have just quoted the post...to see who started it. :oops:


But hey, maybe you should change your name to 'Posse Bear'...so it would be much more accurate. :D

Have you ever thought of just addressing the thread and not attack everyone that does not agree with you?

Why don't you practice saying "Madam" while the rest of us practice saying "Mr."???? I'm sure that regardless of which one wins, "Mr." will work just as well.

[ColdNoMore]

Have you ever thought of just addressing the thread and not attack everyone that does not agree with you? I simply give what I get. ;)



Why don't you practice saying "Madam" while the rest of us practice saying "Mr."???? I'm sure that regardless of which one wins, "Mr." will work just as well.

Your fear and loathing of strong, accomplished and intelligent women...is noted. :thumbup:

Makes sense that you would be for Trump...since you share the same characteristics. :ohdear:

[billethkid]

Billy, I know what you've been through having years of frustration and angst caused by circumstances you can't change. And many times I have switched the channel to prevent any more pain. But I'm still going to watch the Cubs game tomorrow night. Go Cubs!





Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

Another incorrect assessment.
I have what I know and what I believe and am comfortable with both.

I am however annoyed by those who have the knack for taking another's words or intents and restating them to suit their agenda/position/belief.

The quality of the site is unfortunately degraded by those who seem unable to participate in a discussion without incorrect restating of anothers words/intents, name calling or demeaning those who are not in synch with their specific beliefs/opinions.

Most of us learned a long time ago to not spend time on those things that cannot be changed or influnced (wasting time).

[MDLNB]

I simply give what I get. ;)





Your fear and loathing of strong, accomplished and intelligent women...is noted. :thumbup:

Makes sense that you would be for Trump...since you share the same characteristics. :ohdear:

You just proved my point.

[jimbo2012]

get used to saying Inmate #12345, clinton

[ColdNoMore]

You just proved my point.

Wrong!



:1rotfl:

[Whooter]

Delusional- Having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinons

[MDLNB]

Make sure that you address her as "Madam." After all, she very well could be pimping for Bill.

[billethkid]

Make sure that you address her as "Madam." After all, she very well could be pimping for Bill.

For herself!!! As usual.

[jimbo2012]

she may be the Madame of cell block #9

[dirtbanker]

Wrong!



:1rotfl:

Someone has a chip on her shoulder...

[Nucky]

It ain't over yet. I don't hear nobody chubby singing!

[MDLNB]

It ain't over yet. I don't hear nobody chubby singing!

Tell me truthfully, do we REALLY want to hear Hillary sing? :1rotfl:..:1rotfl:..:1rotfl:

[billethkid]

Tell me truthfully, do we REALLY want to hear Hillary sing? :1rotfl:..:1rotfl:..:1rotfl:

if you heard her cackle you heard her sing!

[Polar Bear]

Have you ever thought of just addressing the thread and not attack everyone that does not agree with you?...
Radical concept.

You just proved my point.
Right!

:1rotfl:

[dave harris]

If that happens, it will truly be a very sad day for America!

It will be the end of the world little man.

[bbbbbb]

[QUOTE=Guest;1308987]The most frightening of all truths.

I have spent 8 years not viewing Obama as "my" president.
I would not follow him to a free lunch across the street.
When ever he comes on the television I automatically switch channels.

So having been trained for 8 years with a phony president, GOD forbid the shrieker should win, I certainly will continue my practice of not watching her. If it is possible I detest and dislike and disrespect her more than Obama.....if that is possible. You will be able to spot my house as it will be the flag pole with the black ribbons streaming from it.

I refuse to respect a known criminal that the media and the establishment has rigged into office.

THANK YOU FOR THIS POST, VERY GOOD.
Well this is bbbbbb with a question:::::::: Due to Biden's recent mouthing off, do you think if Trump wins, that Biden can convince the SS to allow Biden to lure Trump behind the Gym as he as stated lately? I wonder, and if that does come to fruition, hope I can get to see that and I also want to be able to get admission to see Big Mouth Useless Joe recovering in a hospital bed with his stupid face beat to a pulp and his smile gone and having no teeth. What a disgusting team this jerk has put together for the American people to be exposed to!!
bbbbbb :MOJE_whot:

[John_W]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/16/ba/86/16ba868ae149d35a88634346cbdcfa87.jpg

[Rockyrd]

Hmm....interesting then....perception versus facts are always interesting.

"Jeff Hancock is a professor at Stanford University, where he studies deception and technology. The views expressed here are his own (and contain some graphic language).
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are seen as equally trustworthy by the public, and yet Trump makes false statements almost four times as often than Clinton.
How is this possible?
I study deception and trust and am frequently asked this question, given that fact checkers rate Trump's statements as entirely false 52% of the time compared to Clinton's 12%.
There are several possible explanations. One is that we like and trust people who look like we do, an effect known as homophily. This also allows us to discount or ignore things that we might otherwise not. That could explain why so many white men support Trump despite his persistent falsehoods."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/17/technology/donald-trump-deception/


"But Trump is another story — or rather, tells other stories. “He is unapologetic about saying things that are completely and verifiably untrue,” DePaulo said. Experts find Clinton’s lying habits to be more “normal” among politicians in this respect."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/27/why-clinton-is-less-trusted-when-trump-lies-much-more/

[Rockyrd]

His lies always seem to "put down" his followers.

Example....he always has said..paraphrase.."this movement is not about me"

Yet...

In Virginia yesterday, I think..he said. "If I lose the movement is over"

You just wonder when people wake up to the con.

I totally get the frustration with Clinton...really do, but this man actually reminds me of Jim Jones and Jamestown. He applied rules to everyone but him. He scolded them for what he was doing at the same time.

Election is rigged while he counts on hacked emails by Russia who is trying to rig the election. Amazing stuff

[ColdNoMore]

His lies always seem to "put down" his followers.

Example....he always has said..paraphrase.."this movement is not about me"

Yet...

In Virginia yesterday, I think..he said. "If I lose the movement is over"

You just wonder when people wake up to the con.

I totally get the frustration with Clinton...really do, but this man actually reminds me of Jim Jones and Jamestown. He applied rules to everyone but him. He scolded them for what he was doing at the same time.

Election is rigged while he counts on hacked emails by Russia who is trying to rig the election. Amazing stuff

You nailed it...again! :bigbow:

[fred53]

Can't wait till nov. 8th.


Yup. what a way to start off a presidency....ceding the whole country to Islam. Yup. That's what we need.

[MDLNB]

Yup. what a way to start off a presidency....ceding the whole country to Islam. Yup. That's what we need.

Hey, they bought the country fair and square from Hillary. I wonder how they will divide it up, since they all seem to have paid her different amounts. How much of America does Morocco get for their 12 million, they "donated" to Hillary?

[Allegiance]

Hey, they bought the country fair and square from Hillary. I wonder how they will divide it up, since they all seem to have paid her different amounts. How much of America does Morocco get for their 12 million, they "donated" to Hillary?
Don't worry it's a global economy and we all benefit from open borders.

[rubicon]

Of course, Billethkid - you can't stand having a black man as President, therefore a woman would be unacceptable as well. Flag pole with black ribbons??? What are you like in 8th grade? Such hatred. what a waste. And you'd like a man in office that brags about assaulting women. Nice.

Dear Guest: I am new to this thread. I happen to share BTK views and quite honestly never called Obama my president nor will I acknowledge Clinton as my president.

Comments making accusations of racist, homophobic or misogynist is a progressive mantra because it is their argument, one I might add that is shallow and it reeks of hypocrisy.

I don't know if you will continue to read this post but there are many reasons why I dislike both Obama and Clinton such as their radical agenda, an ability to lie with a straight and convincing face, for their dishonesty, .......................................

I would vote and support the likes of a Thomas Sowell and I would vote and support the likes of a Peggy Noonan

Finally I find it ironic that progressives actually make an issue of calling Obama detractors racist when his entire campaign and political agenda revolved around his race which he chose to be black. And isn't it amazing that given his race he has ended up contributing to a wider divide between the races and leaving those blacks needing his help to lift them up worse off than before he became president .

Personal Best Regards:

[MDLNB]

Dear Guest: I am new to this thread. I happen to share BTK views and quite honestly never called Obama my president nor will I acknowledge Clinton as my president.

Comments making accusations of racist, homophobic or misogynist is a progressive mantra because it is their argument, one I might add that is shallow and it reeks of hypocrisy.

I don't know if you will continue to read this post but there are many reasons why I dislike both Obama and Clinton such as their radical agenda, an ability to lie with a straight and convincing face, for their dishonesty, .......................................

I would vote and support the likes of a Thomas Sowell and I would vote and support the likes of a Peggy Noonan

Finally I find it ironic that progressives actually make an issue of calling Obama detractors racist when his entire campaign and political agenda revolved around his race which he chose to be black. And isn't it amazing that given his race he has ended up contributing to a wider divide between the races and leaving those blacks needing his help to lift them up worse off than before he became president .

Personal Best Regards:

Good post

[jimbo2012]

given his race he has ended up contributing to a wider divide between the races and leaving those blacks needing his help to lift them up worse off than before he became president .




How is it his own inner city, Chicago had over 3,000 killings and he ignores that during his 8 years, as he has in all other inner cities.

HRC will continue

How many more on food stamps

[Taltarzac725]

How is it his own inner city, Chicago had over 3,000 killings and he ignores that during his 8 years, as he has in all other inner cities.

HRC will continue

How many more on food stamps

What has President Obama done for black America?

Is Trump Right? A Look at What Obama'''s Done for Black Community - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/donald-trump-right-what-obamas-done-black-america-n403881)

[jimbo2012]

NBC news bias BS

[Henryk]

Dear Guest: I am new to this thread. I happen to share BTK views and quite honestly never called Obama my president nor will I acknowledge Clinton as my president.

Comments making accusations of racist, homophobic or misogynist is a progressive mantra because it is their argument, one I might add that is shallow and it reeks of hypocrisy.

I don't know if you will continue to read this post but there are many reasons why I dislike both Obama and Clinton such as their radical agenda, an ability to lie with a straight and convincing face, for their dishonesty, .......................................

I would vote and support the likes of a Thomas Sowell and I would vote and support the likes of a Peggy Noonan

Finally I find it ironic that progressives actually make an issue of calling Obama detractors racist when his entire campaign and political agenda revolved around his race which he chose to be black. And isn't it amazing that given his race he has ended up contributing to a wider divide between the races and leaving those blacks needing his help to lift them up worse off than before he became president .

Personal Best Regards:

Finally, I find it ironic you would claim to be "new to this thread." You're well aware of this board as a whole, Ruby.

[jimbo2012]

Hmm....interesting then....perception versus facts are always interesting.

"Jeff Hancock is a professor at Stanford University, where he studies deception and technology. The views expressed here are his own (and contain some graphic language).
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are seen as equally trustworthy by the public, and yet Trump makes false statements almost four times as often than Clinton.
How is this possible?
I study deception and trust and am frequently asked this question, given that fact checkers rate Trump's statements as entirely false 52% of the time compared to Clinton's 12%.
There are several possible explanations. One is that we like and trust people who look like we do, an effect known as homophily. This also allows us to discount or ignore things that we might otherwise not. That could explain why so many white men support Trump despite his persistent falsehoods."

Trump's bullsh*t: Why his supporters don't care that he's lying - Oct. 17, 2016 (http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/17/technology/donald-trump-deception/)


"But Trump is another story — or rather, tells other stories. “He is unapologetic about saying things that are completely and verifiably untrue,” DePaulo said. Experts find Clinton’s lying habits to be more “normal” among politicians in this respect."




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[Chi-Town]

Finally, I find it ironic you would claim to be "new to this thread." You're well aware of this board as a whole, Ruby.
There is no thread PBR is new to. This is his raison d'être. So I have to call bull**** Rubi.


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[autumnspring]

The most frightening of all truths.

I have spent 8 years not viewing Obama as "my" president.
I would not follow him to a free lunch across the street.
When ever he comes on the television I automatically switch channels.

So having been trained for 8 years with a phony president, GOD forbid the shrieker should win, I certainly will continue my practice of not watching her. If it is possible I detest and dislike and disrespect her more than Obama.....if that is possible. You will be able to spot my house as it will be the flag pole with the black ribbons streaming from it.

I refuse to respect a known criminal that the media and the establishment has rigged into office.

But that is all negative thinking. I much more prefer someone who is not the establishment. I fully accept what folks don't like that hes says. He is far better than what Clinton has done and said.

As to changing the station when Obama speaks; I expect that is the way you feel not the way you actually act.

I did not vote for OBAMA so I can honestly say DON'T BLAME ME. Obama is clearly a SOCIALIST. Obama wanted to STEAL the hard work, the savings, the duty to provide for YOURSELF and your family and replace that with the U O MEEEEEEE, GIVMEEEEEEEE view of a SOCIALIST. In the next election we will have no other choice then to vote for a CAPITALIST or to elect the candidate that is not only a socialist BUT IT IS FAR LEFT OF EVEN OBAMA.

We are at an important time in AMERICAN HISTORY where we must choose a turn to the FAR LEFT or a turn to the FAR RIGHT.

I WILL BE VOTING FOR TRUMP but the FACT IS that I am a centrist. My views do not align with either Hillary or TRUMP. I EARNED what I have by working 50-60 hours a week. Obama and Hillary see the pile of nuts I HAVE SAVED over 45 years OF WORK and they want to STEAL SOME TO BUY VOTES OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WORK AND WILL VOTE FOR WHICHEVER POLITICIAN WILL TAKE MORE OF MY NUTS AND GIVE IT TO THEM TO BUY VOTES.

LIKE A CORNERED SQUIRREL-BE AWARE, I WILL PROTECT MY NUTS.

[ColdNoMore]

There is no thread PBR is new to. This is his raison d'être. So I have to call bull**** Rubi.


Exactly. :ohdear:

[graciegirl]

Exactly. :ohdear:

I wonder WHY So MANY older Americans gradually change to more conservative ideas and take issue with many liberal views. I might add, older, highly successful, and not in debt older Americans.......who do not have any mugshots in their past and many meritorious endeavors in their knapsack???

Is it because they are stupid? Set in their ways? or is it because life and weathering awful storms of illness and adversity and sadness has taught them valuable lessons and changed them gradually from being always unrealistically altruistic to becoming reasonable and full of common sense, even if it doesn't seem lovely at times...????

I wonder.................

G.G.

[Rockyrd]

I wonder WHY So MANY older Americans gradually change to more conservative ideas and take issue with many liberal views. I might add, older, highly successful, and not in debt older Americans.......who do not have any mugshots in their past and many meritorious endeavors in their knapsack???

Is it because they are stupid? Set in their ways? or is it because life and weathering awful storms of illness and adversity and sadness has taught them valuable lessons and changed them gradually from being always unrealistically altruistic to becoming reasonable and full of common sense, even if it doesn't seem lovely at times...????

I wonder.................

G.G.

I think all young people are idealist to start, and the progression is natural.

At this point in time however, we are faced with EXTREMES of both, and the technology of today, which should make us more informed, has sadly made us more UNINFORMED.

We have access to so many lies and untruths, conspiracy theories, etc. that simply lack facts which feeds that extreme.

[graciegirl]

I think all young people are idealist to start, and the progression is natural.

At this point in time however, we are faced with EXTREMES of both, and the technology of today, which should make us more informed, has sadly made us more UNINFORMED.

We have access to so many lies and untruths, conspiracy theories, etc. that simply lack facts which feeds that extreme.

I agree.

[Chi-Town]

As to changing the station when Obama speaks; I expect that is the way you feel not the way you actually act.

I did not vote for OBAMA so I can honestly say DON'T BLAME ME. Obama is clearly a SOCIALIST. Obama wanted to STEAL the hard work, the savings, the duty to provide for YOURSELF and your family and replace that with the U O MEEEEEEE, GIVMEEEEEEEE view of a SOCIALIST. In the next election we will have no other choice then to vote for a CAPITALIST or to elect the candidate that is not only a socialist BUT IT IS FAR LEFT OF EVEN OBAMA.

We are at an important time in AMERICAN HISTORY where we must choose a turn to the FAR LEFT or a turn to the FAR RIGHT.

I WILL BE VOTING FOR TRUMP but the FACT IS that I am a centrist. My views do not align with either Hillary or TRUMP. I EARNED what I have by working 50-60 hours a week. Obama and Hillary see the pile of nuts I HAVE SAVED over 45 years OF WORK and they want to STEAL SOME TO BUY VOTES OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WORK AND WILL VOTE FOR WHICHEVER POLITICIAN WILL TAKE MORE OF MY NUTS AND GIVE IT TO THEM TO BUY VOTES.

LIKE A CORNERED SQUIRREL-BE AWARE, I WILL PROTECT MY NUTS.

You make me want to shout. Or

Shout
Shout
Let it all out



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[Buffalo Jim]

Can't wait till nov. 8th.


How are you feeling about now ?

Still feeling good about your " Madam President " ?

Still want to taunt us to get accustomed to saying it ?

Even if she wins she loses because she is being positioned for years of legal problems , millions in legal fees and a much " soiled " presidency .