As a Catholic can you voteto Hillary

[villagerjack]

Hillarys gang calls it a Backward Badrptardized religion. Cardinal Dolan asked for an apology but Hillary refused.

The thought of murdering a baby brought to full term by sticking a scissors in her neck and then selling the body parts abhors me. Yet Hillary support Partial Birth Abortion. How did we as intelligent human beings ever get to this point?

[MDLNB]

Hillarys gang calls it a Backward Badrptardized religion. Cardinal Dolan asked for an apology but Hillary refused.

The thought of murdering a baby brought to full term by sticking a scissors in her neck and then selling the body parts abhors me. Yet Hillary support Partial Birth Abortion. How did we as intelligent human beings ever get to this point?

Naive liberals that are too egotistical to believe in a higher power. They have no morals and attempt to use Christianity as a weapon against decent people. Even though they do not understand what Christianity is, they think it is conservative krytonite.

Liberals believe that it is terrible to execute murders but have no scruples when it comes to killing babies. They think it is the woman's right to kill her baby.

[villagerjack]

Disgusting to murder a baby

[joec3]

And you have the right to tell the mother she has to kill herself. To save her baby. Only the mother should have the right to make that choice. Not you or anyone else.

[cologal]

Hillarys gang calls it a Backward Badrptardized religion. Cardinal Dolan asked for an apology but Hillary refused.

The thought of murdering a baby brought to full term by sticking a scissors in her neck and then selling the body parts abhors me. Yet Hillary support Partial Birth Abortion. How did we as intelligent human beings ever get to this point?

To coin a phrase......

YOU LIE!!!

Late term abortions are already regulated.....

A Look at Late-Term Abortion Restrictions, State by State - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/01/a-look-at-late-term-abortion-restrictions-state-by-state/448098/)

Some times for the health of the mother late term abortions are necessary....so you feel the life of the baby out ways the life of the mother?

I am prochoice and I have never had an abortion but I don't think I have the right to make that choice for others.

[MDLNB]

And you have the right to tell the mother she has to kill herself. To save her baby. Only the mother should have the right to make that choice. Not you or anyone else.

Surgeons have been interviewed on more than one occasion that say they have NEVER had to make the choice. Not to say it hasn't happened but an incident such as you say is so rare that it would be not even calculable.

You liberals are so childish.

[billethkid]

anybody with a pulse knows killing babies is wrong.......yes, there are even democrats who believe that as well.

Last time I checked there were catholic democrats.

Unfortunately we only hear from the media and the fanatical party first no matter what or who folks.

[MDLNB]

To coin a phrase......

YOU LIE!!!

Late term abortions are already regulated.....

A Look at Late-Term Abortion Restrictions, State by State - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/01/a-look-at-late-term-abortion-restrictions-state-by-state/448098/)

Some times for the health of the mother late term abortions are necessary....so you feel the life of the baby out ways the life of the mother?

I am prochoice and I have never had an abortion but I don't think I have the right to make that choice for others.

It doesn't happen. Over 95% of abortions are for convenience(birth control). Less than 1 % are due to rape or incest and about 2-3% are deemed related to any health concerns.

Abortion is legal, so the diversion to it as an argument is moot. The use of it to prove to Catholics that Hillary is a liar and will say anything for the vote is a different matter. She says she is pro-abortion and even late term abortion.

Like someone suggested above, I wonder how a decent Catholic could vote for her. But, then again how could any decent person vote for her?

No one that believes in:

The 1st or 2nd Amendment
Sanctity of life and the Constitutional rights of a baby
Borders on our country
Law enforcement
Less gov control
better economy
More jobs
National Security

Could vote for Hillary

[villagerjack]

To coin a phrase......

YOU LIE!!!

Late term abortions are already regulated.....

A Look at Late-Term Abortion Restrictions, State by State - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/01/a-look-at-late-term-abortion-restrictions-state-by-state/448098/)

Some times for the health of the mother late term abortions are necessary....so you feel the life of the baby out ways the life of the mother?



I am prochoice and I have never had an abortion but I don't think I have the right to make that choice for others.


Would you stick the scissors in the baby's neck to kill her? Very rarely if appt all does it come down to the life of the mother after a baby is carried 9 Months.

[billethkid]

Why is the question being limited to catholics when it should be to all Americans who care about their America?

[jimbo2012]

As a Catholic, No!

As a human being no one should.

[maureenod]

Would you stick the scissors in the baby's neck to kill her? Very rarely if appt all does it come down to the life of the mother after a baby is carried 9 Months.

Maybe you should read about planned parenthood before you put your foot in your mouth. Is is called birth at 9 months, the baby is severely handicapped, unable to survive on its own. It is held by parents and grandparents until it e expires. So shut your filthy mouth you are nothing but a trump pig.

[MDLNB]

Maybe you should read about planned parenthood before you put your foot in your mouth. Is is called birth at 9 months, the baby is severely handicapped, unable to survive on its own. It is held by parents and grandparents until it e expires. So shut your filthy mouth you are nothing but a trump pig.

Planned Parenthood should not be funded by the American taxpayer, if they participate in abortions...period. Planned Parenthood can survive without funding from those of us that do not believe in baby killing.

[Hancle704]

The reality is that majority of abortions are not to save the mother's life. They are more usually a matter of it's not a good time because of education or career. Oh yes wealthy women also have abortions so it is not always an economic justification

There is an outcry about black lives matter when a police officer shots a black youth but never a word about 50 million children murdered. All lives matter to God just not to the pro-choice faction.

[villagerjack]

Maybe you should read about planned parenthood before you put your foot in your mouth. Is is called birth at 9 months, the baby is severely handicapped, unable to survive on its own. It is held by parents and grandparents until it e expires. So shut your filthy mouth you are nothing but a trump pig.

Wrong...it is called murder.

[Columbo]

:agree:::clap2:It doesn't happen. Over 95% of abortions are for convenience(birth control). Less than 1 % are due to rape or incest and about 2-3% are deemed related to any health concerns.

Abortion is legal, so the diversion to it as an argument is moot. The use of it to prove to Catholics that Hillary is a liar and will say anything for the vote is a different matter. She says she is pro-abortion and even late term abortion.

Like someone suggested above, I wonder how a decent Catholic could vote for her. But, then again how could any decent person vote for her?

No one that believes in:

The 1st or 2nd Amendment
Sanctity of life and the Constitutional rights of a baby
Borders on our country
Law enforcement
Less gov control
better economy
More jobs
National Security

Could vote for Hillary

[rubicon]

The question is asked"As a Catholic can you vote for Hillary? As a backward Catholic deplorable redneck no. Even as an atheist no.

to vote for Hillary, given her dossier is in my view is unethical and immoral as it relates to human kind.

As to the abortion issue, aside of the moral issue, one ought to consider what affect abortion has on our nations demographics and our gene pool. How many inventors, engineers ,doctors, etc have we killed who might have gotten us to Mars faster, or cured cancer once and for all.....................................

Progressive go against nature with their call for abortion and feigned a woman has a right to .........nature provided for the miracle of birth and birth is a gift

Personal Best Regards:

[Greg Nelson]

Women rule the world..let them decide

[billethkid]

Women rule the world..let them decide

Yeah without the bias of the media, politicians, special interest, minority groups that all have an interest and oh by the way it is not the welfare of the woman! That is the cover used.

Positioing to effect only one outcome. Getting the uninformed's votes.

NOTHING MORE!

[cologal]

Would you stick the scissors in the baby's neck to kill her? Very rarely if appt all does it come down to the life of the mother after a baby is carried 9 Months.

Could you just stand there and let one or both of them die?

When I was a young Medical Technologist I worked in a Catholic hospital that did not do any abortions. Later I worked at a Jewish hospital that did and I had to interact with the women who had an abortion as a good Catholic I went to the priest to discuss what I should do. I follow his advice to this day.... if you are not actively involved in the procedure then you have nothing to worry about.

I have NEVER had an abortion nor have I ever had anything to do with an abortion. But I don't judge anyone who does! It's NOT my business!

[maureenod]

It is a decision between the woman and her doctor, not the government or church. In 2014, Galway Ireland, at a unwed mother home, run by the Cathlolic Church and nuns, nearly 800 infant remains were found in a septic system. The home operated from 1925 to 1960. How's that for the Catholic church.

[Rockyrd]

A tweet from Trump this morning at 6:05 AM

"Why has nobody asked Kaine about the horrible views emanated on WikiLeaks about Catholics? Media in the tank for Clinton but Trump will win!"

Exerpt from MTP yesterday morning

"Todd had asked about an email released by WikiLeaks in which campaign spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said, "I imagine they think it is the most socially-acceptable, politically-conservative religion, their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals."
Kaine said he couldn't vouch for the email's authenticity but would address Catholics who were offended.

"Hillary Clinton's feeling about faith and about Catholicism in particular is most demonstrated by the fact that she asked me to be a running mate," Kaine said. "That is the most direct evidence about what Hillary thinks about Catholics."


Kaine: Picking me as VP shows Clinton's views on Catholics - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/tim-kaine-hillary-clinton-catholics-230204)

[Hancle704]

Could you just stand there and let one or both of them die?

When I was a young Medical Technologist I worked in a Catholic hospital that did not do any abortions. Later I worked at a Jewish hospital that did and I had to interact with the women who had an abortion as a good Catholic I went to the priest to discuss what I should do. I follow his advice to this day.... if you are not actively involved in the procedure then you have nothing to worry about.

I have NEVER had an abortion nor have I ever had anything to do with an abortion. But I don't judge anyone who does! It's NOT my business!

So if you are not a member of ISIS you should be okay watching their murders of innocents because its none of your business and you are not actively involved. Or, if you were not yet born when Hitler murdered millions of Jews and others, it should not be any of your business. As a Catholic you have nothing to worry about if not involved, but maybe you should be involved to see that the murder of more than 50 million innocents does not continue.

[Hancle704]

A tweet from Trump this morning at 6:05 AM

"Why has nobody asked Kaine about the horrible views emanated on WikiLeaks about Catholics? Media in the tank for Clinton but Trump will win!"

Exerpt from MTP yesterday morning

"Todd had asked about an email released by WikiLeaks in which campaign spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said, "I imagine they think it is the most socially-acceptable, politically-conservative religion, their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals."
Kaine said he couldn't vouch for the email's authenticity but would address Catholics who were offended.

"Hillary Clinton's feeling about faith and about Catholicism in particular is most demonstrated by the fact that she asked me to be a running mate," Kaine said. "That is the most direct evidence about what Hillary thinks about Catholics."


Kaine: Picking me as VP shows Clinton's views on Catholics - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/tim-kaine-hillary-clinton-catholics-230204)

Hillary picked Kaine for many reasons but not because he is Catholic, because like Biden, Pelosi and Kerry he won't stand up and protect the lives of the most vulnerable innocents who have been murdered at a rate greater than Hitler, Assad and ISIS combined while saying it is a matter of women's health.

[Rockyrd]

Hillary picked Kaine for many reasons but not because he is Catholic, because like Biden, Pelosi and Kerry he won't stand up and protect the lives of the most vulnerable innocents who have been murdered at a rate greater than Hitler, Assad and ISIS combined while saying it is a matter of women's health.

And you have this information from WHERE ?

A link or something or did she call you and tell you that ?

Amazing...posters do not even say...in my opinion.

[Whooter]

Total B S.

[jimbo2012]

there's intelligent feedback

[Whooter]

Fear mongering. Conservatives seem to care more about fetuses than they do about kids after they are born.

[Whooter]

Opinions are not facts, but facts should be opinions.

[jimbo2012]

Fear mongering. Conservatives seem to care more about fetuses than they do about kids after they are born.

So that's you best argument?

[Hancle704]

Fear mongering. Conservatives seem to care more about fetuses than they do about kids after they are born.

Not so, don't know about conservatives but Catholics should care as much about unborn children as they do about children.

From conception to natural death, that's the real Catholic belief.

[Hancle704]

It is a decision between the woman and her doctor, not the government or church. In 2014, Galway Ireland, at a unwed mother home, run by the Cathlolic Church and nuns, nearly 800 infant remains were found in a septic system. The home operated from 1925 to 1960. How's that for the Catholic church.

That is not THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

In the US 50 million abortions, so far. How many were to save the life of the mother? How many were for a variety of other reasons?

[Bavarian]

Pope Benedict wrote a letter that no Catholic can vote for someone who supports Abortion, that is aiding and abetting.

Pope Francis recently said the same.

Cardinal Chaput of Philadelphia echoed these statements.

Don't call Kaine, Kerry. Biden, and Pelosi Catholics, they are CINOs. Catholics In Name Only, they have excommunicated themselves.

These statements can be found on Facebook, along with Sermons from Priests stating the same.

[MDLNB]

Fear mongering. Conservatives seem to care more about fetuses than they do about kids after they are born.

Quite the opposite. We do care about our children, and other children. Children that will suffer from frivolous and careless gov spending that will leave this country bankrupt for them. Obviously, liberals do not.

Since almost ALL abortions are due to convenience, it is obvious that many abortions are just a form of birth control. Catholics are generally against birth control, but are more concerned about innocent baby lives. Statistics do not support the abortion argument/movement of pro-choice and certainly does not warrant gov subsidy.

On the other hand, putting abortion aside it is interesting how the released emails show how Hillary's campaign really thinks of Catholics. I guess you could say that they put them in the Deplorables basket.

[maureenod]

That is not THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

In the US 50 million abortions, so far. How many were to save the life of the mother? How many were for a variety of other reasons?

Excuse me, it is the Catholic Church that threw the dead babies in the sewer. How could 800 babies die naturally?

They were neglected and abused they "had to pay for the sins of their mothers" How about pedophile priests that they kept moving around to continuously abuse children.

[MDLNB]

Excuse me, it is the Catholic Church that threw the dead babies in the sewer. How could 800 babies die naturally?

They were neglected and abused they "had to pay for the sins of their mothers" How about pedophile priests that they kept moving around to continuously abuse children.

Are you really attempting to tell the Catholics that child abuse by priests is a common factor in their religion?

I guess you will also agree that voter fraud is running rampant in election years? I mean, if it happens once or twice, then it must be rampant, right?

The sewer tale has been debunked. It was mass graves and the children were buried over a long period of time. They were not aborted babies, but babies that died of diseases or malnutrition. This was a home for poor pregnant women. The story is so old, I find it incredulous that you would bring it up. Saying these children were thrown in the sewer shows that you did not research your information and just parrot liberal talking points. I can see why you wish for a socialist gov to lead you by the nose. It must be hard for you to make your own decisions in life.

[maureenod]

Are you really attempting to tell the Catholics that child abuse by priests is a common factor in their religion?

I guess you will also agree that voter fraud is running rampant in election years? I mean, if it happens once or twice, then it must be rampant, right?

I am telling you that 800 babies were dumped in the sewer by the nuns and the Catholic Church. They are now digging other mother baby homes throughout Ireland.

[maureenod]

Are you really attempting to tell the Catholics that child abuse by priests is a common factor in their religion?

I guess you will also agree that voter fraud is running rampant in election years? I mean, if it happens once or twice, then it must be rampant, right?

The sewer tale has been debunked. It was mass graves and the children were buried over a long period of time. They were not aborted babies, but babies that died of diseases or malnutrition. This was a home for poor pregnant women. The story is so old, I find it incredulous that you would bring it up. Saying these children were thrown in the sewer shows that you did not research your information and just parrot liberal talking points. I can see why you wish for a socialist gov to lead you by the nose. It must be hard for you to make your own decisions in life.

I was born and raised in Ireland, not far from this home. My family still lives on the original farm and I return home often so don't tell me I am uninformed. My sister's best friend was raped at 14, the parish priest talked her parents into putting her in this prison. She gave birth to a healthy daughter but had a club foot, unacceptable for adoption. They told her a week later the baby died in her sleep and wouldn't let her even see the baby. God only knows what happened to her. No death cert.

She had to stay in this prison for three more years, doing hard labor in the laundry, to pay for her sins. Never was allowed to leave. I remember well, there was a very high wall, with broken glass imbedded in cement on the top so no one could climb it.

The Catholic church was in the adoption, baby selling, business and if babies aren't perfect they aren't adoptable. There were no background checks. No accountability what so ever. The government is also to blame for giving the church so much power, nobody would speak out against them.

My uncle lived 2 doors down from this home, prison, and walked by nearly every day. I clearly remember him telling my mom that the children in the yard were eating scraps of food, thrown out for the hens, off the ground.

Yes, these "homes" were houses of horror. There are many, many horrors stories. Some mentally challenged women spent their lives there, slaving in the laundered until the government finally closed them.

Yes, infants were thrown in the sewer pit. Didn't deserve a decent burial, after all they had original sin.

[MDLNB]

I am telling you that 800 babies were dumped in the sewer by the nuns and the Catholic Church. They are now digging other mother baby homes throughout Ireland.

Well, you are wrong. Examine that OLD story a bit more and you will see your folly. Yes, there were bodies, but not in the sewer and not from abortion. These are babies that died and were buried in mass grave vaults or graves. But, if it makes your liberal mind feel more justified when you kill another baby, then by all means rationalize that IF someone else does it, it must be OK.

[maureenod]

Well, you are wrong. Examine that OLD story a bit more and you will see your folly. Yes, there were bodies, but not in the sewer and not from abortion. These are babies that died and were buried in mass grave vaults or graves. But, if it makes your liberal mind feel more justified when you kill another baby, then by all means rationalize that IF someone else does it, it must be OK.

Just where did I say they were abortions. I guess if they neglect and starve babies until the die, it's okay. No it is not an old story, pit ward discovered 2 years ago.

[Hancle704]

As a Catholic can you vote to Hillary? This was the actual question from the original post. So how did this get turned into what has now been posted?

[MDLNB]

Just where did I say they were abortions. I guess if they neglect and starve babies until the die, it's okay. No it is not an old story, pit ward discovered 2 years ago.

If you would do your research before going off on a tangent, you would realize that all that happened decades ago(about 1925). Not recently. And you do NOT know the circumstances. Get over it. The Crusades were fought by Christians also. If not for those guys, you would be facing East and praying on a rug several times a day, and women and gays would really have something to complain about. Only they wouldn't because sharia law would have your heads.

[MDLNB]

As a Catholic can you vote to Hillary? This was the actual question from the original post. So how did this get turned into what has now been posted?

Liberal diversion tactic used when they are stuck with a question that requires an answer that would not be flattering to their liberal talking points.

[maureenod]

If you would do your research before going off on a tangent, you would realize that all that happened decades ago(about 1925). Not recently. And you do NOT know the circumstances. Get over it. The Crusades were fought by Christians also. If not for those guys, you would be facing East and praying on a rug several times a day, and women and gays would really have something to complain about. Only they wouldn't because sharia law would have your heads.

No, they happened in our lifetime. Bones have been dated and women have told their personal horror stories. So get your head out of the sand. All your posts are twisted, skewed and untrue.

If you don't believe in abortion you must also believe no wall and we should also accept refugees, that's what the Pope has told us to do.

[MDLNB]

No, they happened in our lifetime. Bones have been dated and women have told their personal horror stories. So get your head out of the sand. All your posts are twisted, skewed and untrue.

If you don't believe in abortion you must also believe no wall and we should also accept refugees, that's what the Pope has told us to do.

Nope, you are wrong. First off, I am NOT Catholic and not subject to a Pope. Second, the baby deaths were not related to abortions so you have no correlation between those deaths that happened in 1925 and today's abortions. I will give those stories as much credence as I do the sudden complaints of illegal kissing perpetrated by Trump a couple decades ago.

So, you can attack Catholics all you wish but if you think that attacks on Catholics is going to further your weird liberal agenda some how, you are confused.

The question the OP had was "how can a Catholic vote for Hillary." And it was based on the emails from Hillary's campaign, bad mouthing them AND the idea that Hillary is for late term abortions or any abortions for that matter. I am not a Catholic but I believe that their belief is that they are against abortion and any form of birth control. The second has been relaxed somewhat, I think.

You liberals have a tendency to push absolutes, but only when it suits you. If someone is pro-life, you believe that they hate women and are against their civil rights. If we are for the death penalty, you are suddenly pro-life. If a person makes more money than you, you believe it is not fair and they should share it. But, if you are wealthy, you do not wish to share it.

The question is how can a Catholic vote for Hillary. The answer is that they have to disregard their personal religious beliefs and vote for her for superficial reasons, such as Hillary is a female and a Dem and would be the first female president. Even though she would be a flawed, and corrupt president, with a history of criminal lawlessness, liberals will vote for her regardless.

[maureenod]

Nope, you are wrong. First off, I am NOT Catholic and not subject to a Pope. Second, the baby deaths were not related to abortions so you have no correlation between those deaths that happened in 1925 and today's abortions. I will give those stories as much credence as I do the sudden complaints of illegal kissing perpetrated by Trump a couple decades ago.

So, you can attack Catholics all you wish but if you think that attacks on Catholics is going to further your weird liberal agenda some how, you are confused.

The question the OP had was "how can a Catholic vote for Hillary." And it was based on the emails from Hillary's campaign, bad mouthing them AND the idea that Hillary is for late term abortions or any abortions for that matter. I am not a Catholic but I believe that their belief is that they are against abortion and any form of birth control. The second has been relaxed somewhat, I think.

You liberals have a tendency to push absolutes, but only when it suits you. If someone is pro-life, you believe that they hate women and are against their civil rights. If we are for the death penalty, you are suddenly pro-life. If a person makes more money than you, you believe it is not fair and they should share it. But, if you are wealthy, you do not wish to share it.

The question is how can a Catholic vote for Hillary. The answer is that they have to disregard their personal religious beliefs and vote for her for superficial reasons, such as Hillary is a female and a Dem and would be the first female president. Even though she would be a flawed, and corrupt president, with a history of criminal lawlessness, liberals will vote for her regardless.


Keep on twisting....no wonder your wife is gone every day... can't wait to get away from you
MDLNB

[MDLNB]

Keep on twisting....no wonder your wife is gone every day... can't wait to get away from you
MDLNB

Well MDLNB, my wife is not gone every day so I wonder where you came up with that. We have been married for almost half a century so that kind of destroys that your theory, doesn't it?

[maureenod]

Well MDLNB, my wife is not gone every day so I wonder where you came up with that. We have been married for almost half a century so that kind of destroys that your theory, doesn't it?

Now that is the ultimate twist....you are MDLNB. IT WAS STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH....CHECK YOUR OWN POSTS

[Don Baldwin]

Keep on twisting....no wonder your wife is gone every day... can't wait to get away from you
MDLNB

Well MDLNB, my wife is not gone every day so I wonder where you came up with that. We have been married for almost half a century so that kind of destroys that your theory, doesn't it?

Since when is allowing a woman to freeload off you in exchange for sex a sign of success? Most me consider the "eligible bachelor" to be the ultimate success. A different woman every hour fawning over you.

WOMEN want a marriage until they don't anymore.

[MDLNB]

Now that is the ultimate twist....you are MDLNB. IT WAS STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH....CHECK YOUR OWN POSTS

I only see "guest" on here. You must be confused.

[maureenod]

I only see "guest" on here. You must be confused.

Call it a fluke, my kindle shows the user name. Be a man, not a mouse.