Is " IT " Still The Russians Fault ?

[Buffalo Jim]

Until last Friday afternoon every single spokesperson , candidate and left leaning " news " outlet kept telling us that the emails in question had been hacked and edited by the Russians in an effort to influence our presidential election .

So what has happened with that very important " Fact " why has this important " news fact " suddenly gone away ?

I just don`t understand . The Russian interference in our election surely wasn`t a lie was it ?

Shouldn`t we still be concerned about the Russians influence on our politics ?

Why isn`t our president actively doing something about this matter ? Why has the media decided to bury this critical news ?

Hello ? Hello ? :loco::loco:

[Buffalo Jim]

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[Rockyrd]

Until last Friday afternoon every single spokesperson , candidate and left leaning " news " outlet kept telling us that the emails in question had been hacked and edited by the Russians in an effort to influence our presidential election .

So what has happened with that very important " Fact " why has this important " news fact " suddenly gone away ?

I just don`t understand . The Russian interference in our election surely wasn`t a lie was it ?

Shouldn`t we still be concerned about the Russians influence on our politics ?

Why isn`t our president actively doing something about this matter ? Why has the media decided to bury this critical news ?

Hello ? Hello ? :loco::loco:

Hello back at you.

It, and Trump campaign involvement if any, is presently under Justice Dept investigation.

[MDLNB]

Hello back at you.

It, and Trump campaign involvement if any, is presently under Justice Dept investigation.

Oh, Trump is under investigation related to the Russians? Prove it. You are lying to get attention.

I bet you will even suggest that Trump told the Russian hackers to insert 650,000 of Hillary's destroyed emails onto Huma's laptop.

Wow, you liberals are so desperate. Why don't you liberals do like rats usually do when a ship is sinking and abandon the ship?

[Rockyrd]

As of Sept 30

"Suspicion is mounting about Donald Trump’s ties to Russian officials and business interests, as well as possible links between his campaign and the Russian hacking of U.S. political organizations. But GOP leaders have refused to support efforts by Democrats to investigate any possible Trump-Russia connections, which have been raised in news reports and closed-door intelligence briefings. And without their support, Democrats, as the minority in both chambers of Congress, cannot issue subpoenas to potential witnesses and have less leverage to probe Trump."

GOP Blocks Probes Into Trump-Russia Ties - The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/30/gop-blocks-probes-into-trump-russia-ties.html)

I might add that the pressure is growing because of.....

"Washington (CNN)FBI and Justice Department prosecutors are conducting an investigation into possible US ties to alleged corruption of the former pro-Russian president of Ukraine, including the work of Paul Manafort's firm, according to multiple US law enforcement officials."

"The investigation is broad and is looking into whether US companies and the financial system were used to aid alleged corruption by the party of former president Viktor Yanukovych.
Manafort, who resigned as chairman of Donald Trump's campaign Friday, has not been the focus of the probe, according to the law enforcement officials. The investigation is ongoing and prosecutors haven't ruled anything out, the officials said."

First on CNN: Feds investigate Manafort firm as part of Ukraine probe - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/politics/paul-manafort-donald-trump-ukraine/)


As if two weeks ago.
"Top Democrats on four House committees that oversee national security on Friday called on the FBI to investigate Donald Trump's purported ties to the Russian government and its alleged hacking of Democratic groups and operatives.

"Troubling new evidence appears to show that the Trump campaign not only was aware of cyber attacks against Secretary Clinton's campaign chairman, but was openly bragging about it as far back as August," read a joint statement from Reps. Elijah Cummings, John Conyers, Elliot Engel and Bennie Thompson, who are respectively the ranking members of the House Committees on Oversight and Government Reform, Judiciary, Foreign Affairs, and Homeland Security.

Top Democrats Call on FBI to Investigate Trump Ties to Russia Over Hacking - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/top-democrats-call-fbi-investigate-trump-ties-russia-over-hacking-n666696)

And, although I do not trust Reid, he referenced in his letter to FBI on why the information they had on Trump was not shared.

We will see.

And by the way, I am not in anyway a "liberal rat"as you called me. Just someone who thinks Trump is totally insane and without his tax returns, I believe he is up to his ears in debt to Russian folks.

Do not assume that those of us who think Trump is nuts, are supporters of Clinton. Could not be further from the truth. Just someone who has taken the time to investigate what I can about this man as you should do.

Not hearing ANY Trump supporters dis cuss his proposals and the negative reactions to them, nor the plus side of them to Russia.

You are all so hung up in Clinton, he is conning you.

Trump destroyed the GOP and if necessary to protect his own personal interests abroad, he will not hesitate. His tax returns will show where he is making money and where he is losing

[billethkid]

We don need no stinkin' wiki leaks...

we got the weiner abadin computer.

Still no word from Obama. When was the last time he passed up being in front of the camera to promote his agenda?

Since he got caught in a lie about his use of the Clinton email system he is laying low. He ain't got nobodies back but his own.

[Rockyrd]

"Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is alleging that the FBI has “explosive information” about a connection between Donald Trump and the Russian government, suggesting that federal investigators have unveiled damning new information about the Republican presidential nominee."




Reid: FBI has ‘explosive information’ about Trump, Russia | TheHill (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/303547-reid-fbi-has-explosive-information-about-trump-russia)

[Rockyrd]

"“For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia,” he wrote on Twitter in July.

He later told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “Will I sell condos to Russians on occasion? Probably. I mean I do that. I have a lot of condos. I do that. But I have no relationship to Russia whatsoever."

But an ABC News investigation found he has numerous connections to Russian interests both in the U.S. and abroad.

“The level of business amounts to hundreds of millions of dollars -- what he received as a result of interaction with Russian businessmen,” said Sergei Millian, who heads a U.S.-Russia business group and who says he once helped market Trump’s U.S. condos in Russia and the former Soviet states. “They were happy to invest with him, and they were happy to work with Donald Trump. And they were happy to associate—[and] be associated with Donald Trump.”

From Russia With Trump: A Political Conflict Zone - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russia-trump-political-conflict-zone/story?id=42263092)

[jimbo2012]

Ok Rocky try and wrap up your thoughts in one post please.

It is true Trump had dinner in the Russian Tea room and started the whole thing.

http://www.1000thingsnyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/russian-tea-house-exterior-500x300.jpg

[jimbo2012]

We don need no stinkin' wiki leaks...

we got the weiner abadin computer.

Still no word from Obama. When was the last time he passed up being in front of the camera to promote his agenda?

Since he got caught in a lie about his use of the Clinton email system he is laying low. He ain't got nobodies back but his own.

your post was a bit to early, he has no issue with Comey, green lite

First reported on the Clinton News Network

[Buffalo Jim]

WOW ! Thanks Dems for sharing all of this very insightful and critical information . So we seem to have two major issues involving the Russians and Russia as I now understand it :

1] The Russians have acted thru " hacking " to steal , rewrite / edit and then release false Emails concerning matters related to our upcoming National Election .

2] Donald Trump is up to his neck in business deals with Russia and Russian interests .

With respect to Number 1 above , The Russians have somehow seeded the computers of important Democrat Campaign operatives and related parties such as Anthony Weiner`s computer with up to 650,000 so called " emails " none of which can or should be trusted or believed .

Further , the Russian interests are using Julian Assange and other international operatives to spread their modified emails and copies of alleged memos . Further Trump interests are involved in this attempt to smear HRC and the DNC .

With respect to number 2 above , despite his claims to the contrary Trump owes Russian Banks and also private Russian interests such as members of the Russian Mob hundreds of millions of dollars in loans and business favors .

Further, Trump does admit that he has conducted business with Russians who are doing business here in the USA by selling them condos within his various properties .

And most important to point number 2 , The FBI is actively investigating Trump and his various companies for suspected violations of Federal Law with respect to his Russian dealings outlined above .

Please let me know if you believe that I have correctly summarized the above .

Thank-you in advance .

[ColdNoMore]

Putin owns Trump and some American citizens don't care, that our biggest foe for the last 50 years could control this country with their puppet...simply because they hate Hillary so much.

Unbelievable.

[jimbo2012]

CNM, if you have proof send it to the FBI, they can't find it.

Russia denies it.

Or send it to Podesta, where in the wikileaks headers

Now what?

[MDLNB]

Only a fool would make up something so stupid as Trump working with Putin. How stupid can you get?

Are there any adults in here that wish to discuss the election, or do they wish to write fiction novels and fantasy?

[MDLNB]

Huma is working with the Russians, according to Tony's Weiner.

[MDLNB]

Putin owns Trump and some American citizens don't care, that our biggest foe for the last 50 years could control this country with their puppet...simply because they hate Hillary so much.

Unbelievable.

Putin and Trump, or Putin and Hillary?

[Rockyrd]

INTERESTING


"FBI Director James Comey argued privately that it was too close to Election Day for the United States government to name Russia as meddling in the U.S. election and ultimately ensured that the FBI's name was not on the document that the U.S. government put out, a former bureau official tells CNBC."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html

[Rockyrd]

This story got went public about an hour ago.

See where it goes





"Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?"

This is a small interesting comment from a long detailed article

"The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trump’s server. “I’ve never seen a server set up like that,” says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the world’s nastiest botnet attacks. “It looked weird, and it didn’t pass the sniff test.” The server was first registered to Trump’s business in 2009 "

Was a server registered to the Trump Organization communicating with Russia’s Alfa Bank? (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_ communicating_with_russia.html)

[Rockyrd]

"The FBI has been conducting a preliminary inquiry into Donald Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort's foreign business connections, law enforcement and intelligence sources told NBC News Monday.

Word of the inquiry, which has not blossomed into a full-blown criminal investigation, comes just days after FBI Director James Comey's disclosure that his agency is examining a new batch of emails connected to an aide to Hillary Clinton.

And it comes a day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid criticized Comey's revelation and asserted that Comey possesses "explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government."


FBI Making Inquiry Into Ex-Trump Campaign Manager'''s Foreign Ties - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-making-inquiry-ex-trump-campaign-manager-s-foreign-ties-n675881)


Great isn't it. Both candidates under judicial microscope

[Rockyrd]

Another new story just out tonight....who knows


A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump

A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump)

[Rockyrd]

This is from the link above.

I do not trust Trump, never had, and always suspicious even beyond the tax info....

BUT, THIS IS SO CHILLING, I HOPE IT NOT TRUE


"Mother Jones has reviewed that report and other memos this former spy wrote. The first memo, based on the former intelligence officer's conversations with Russian sources, noted, "Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance." It maintained that Trump "and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals." It claimed that Russian intelligence had "compromised" Trump during his visits to Moscow and could "blackmail him." It also reported that Russian intelligence had compiled a dossier on Hillary Clinton based on "bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia and intercepted phone calls.""

[jimbo2012]

Rocky 6 (six) of the above posts are yours are you talking to yourself?

http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/82/36/63548268156559/0/4-reasons-why-talking-yourself-is-anything-but-crazy.1280x600.jpg

Motherjones......very credible
Mother Jones bias rating is Left. Mother Jones (abbreviated MoJo) is a politically left-wing[2] American magazine




"There's no way to tell whether the FBI has confirmed or debunked any of the allegations contained in the former spy's memos. "

[Rockyrd]

Rocky 5 of the above posts are yours are you talking to yourself?

Motherjones......very credible

"There's no way to tell whether the FBI has confirmed or debunked any of the allegations contained in the former spy's memos. "

Just following the news..that simple. These stories are just fresh in the last hours.

You don't like sharing information ?

Like I said...as much as I thing Trump is insane and hiding so much. I sure hope for our country none of this is true

[Allegiance]

Rockyrd talking to himself is just his way to....

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161101/b43f52c70c5ab9bab5b7fa4853e0e860.jpg

I am starting to feel sorry for him.

[jimbo2012]

U need to broaden your sources perhaps :read:

[jimbo2012]

FBI’s James Comey


Opposed Naming Russia As An Election Meddler

[MDLNB]

Let's get this straight. The left is concerned that Trump has done business (as a businessman) with Russia. They are not worried that Obama and Hillary has also done business with Russia as politicians.

Trump has denied being in Russia's pocket. Obama has told Putin that once the election was over, he could get away with doing more for Russia.

A radical website makes up wild and baseless theories that Trump is a mole for Russia and the left believes them. The FBI says Hillary has mishandled national security information and the left says they can't be believed.

Wikileaks has actual evidence from Hillary's emails of felonies committed, but they are not credible, but MoJo is credible with theories that Trump is a mole for mother Russia.

Someone slap some sense into a liberal. They are insane.

[jimbo2012]

How about the uranium deal Russia & Hillary?

THe Clinton's have nothing to do with Russia this proves it

In 2005, Bill Clinton and Frank Giustra visited Kazakhstan. Giustra is a massive donor to the Clinton Foundation.

Posted on August 26, 2016 by Paul Mirengoff in Clinton Cash, Hillary Clinton, National Security, Russia
Memo sheds new light on Clinton-Russia uranium scandal

Of all the Clinton Foundation/Clinton cash scandals, the one I’ve always considered most disturbing involves the Russians gaining control over a large share of America’s uranium. Relying on a New York Times report, I wrote about this scandal here.

Newly uncovered State Department documents shed additional light on this scandal. But before getting to the new material, I’ll summarize what the New York Times reported.

What we knew already

In 2005, Bill Clinton and Frank Giustra visited Kazakhstan. Giustra is a massive donor to the Clinton Foundation.

Giustra’s goal was to buy uranium mines in Kazakhstan. To this end, he and Bill Clinton met with leaders of the Kazakhstan government.

As a result of the visit, Giustra got major mining concessions, which were approved by the Kazakhstan government. Kazakhstan got Bill Clinton publicly to praise its alleged progress in democracy and human rights. The Clintons received a $31 million donation to their Foundation from Giustra, along with a pledge to donate $100 million more.

The deal with Kazakhstan made Giustra’s company, Uranium One, a major player. It proceeded to buy large amounts of holdings in the United States, and became an attractive target for Russia. A Russian company made a hugely attractive offer to purchase the company. Uranium One agreed to the purchase.

The deal required approval by the U.S. government, including by the Secretary of State — Hillary Clinton. During the period when the deal with Russia was under consideration, the Clinton Foundation reportedly $2.6 million from Uranium One. Its contributions were not disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Hillary had reached with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors.

During this period, Bill Clinton also received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank that was promoting Uranium One stock. This was more than his usual speaking fee.


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[jimbo2012]

JUST IN: US officials find no link between Trump and Russia:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwJDaHOXEAEBM5n.jpg

Amid multiple reports drawing different connections between Donald Trump's campaign and Russia Monday night, the New York Times reported that FBI officials' investigations of the GOP nominee have yet to confirm ties between the two.

FBI officials said their investigations have yet to find a connection between the GOP presidential nominee and Russia.

The bureau has been investigating the Russian government’s role in the U.S. presidential election. But the FBI believes that the country was likely trying to disrupt the overall race, and not trying boost Trump’s chance of getting elected.

The Monday night report comes after CNBC reported earlier in the day that FBI Director James Comey argued against accusing Russia of interfering in the election due to the timing, and because he did not want the accusation against Russia to come from his agency.

And Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) alleged earlier in the day that the FBI has “explosive information” about a connection between the two, suggesting federal investigators have “explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors and the Russian government” and must make it public.

Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and critics have criticized Trump for praising Russian President Vladimir Putin. But Trump has pushed back that he has “nothing to do” with Russia and doesn’t know Putin.

The conclusions also comes amid a report from Slate that an unnamed computer scientist found a connection between a Trump organization server and two servers registered to a Moscow bank.

[MDLNB]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=0

Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia

"Still, they have said that Mr. Trump himself has not become a target. And no evidence has emerged that would link him or anyone else in his business or political circle directly to Russia’s election operations."