Bicklayers required. [Archive] - Talk of The Villages Florida

LitespeedRider

11-09-2016, 09:01 AM

When able bodied people are totally dependent on government welfare, aren't they really slaves?

Oh yeah!!!! Oh yeah!!!!! But, but but...the only work they had to do was plug in the flat screen and charge their Obama phone....and they did not even get Comcast!!! Jerk.

MDLNB

11-09-2016, 09:26 AM

Brick layers get $100 hour.

That's union wages. Use illegals, they're cheaper. :laugh:

Don Baldwin

11-09-2016, 09:39 AM

You mean SLAVERY!!!!!:cus:

Yup...that's what they claim...and that's why we can't get a lick of work out of most of them. They know their rights!

When able bodied people are totally dependent on government welfare, aren't they really slaves?

They're a cash crop...that's ALL the inner city blacks really are. They raise them, provide everything they need. And the politicians/corporations skim off a lot of the money borrowed for their welfare.

The food industry LOVES food stamps because the recipients buy their food products. JP Morgan bank runs the EBT card system, making money on each user. Prisons are becoming private with guaranteed occupancy rates, inner city blacks being the majority of the prison population. Banks and institution of higher education make tons of money off of student loans and government paid tuition. They make money whether the student shows up and graduates or not. They don't care that there are 100,000 graduates for 25,000 jobs.

There's a lot of money to be made "helping the children/poor". It's certainly not altruism driving them, they're not philanthropists...Good Samaritans...they're greedy and they've found an angle to get rich.

Their "value" is in being one of millions, their numbers are what's valuable. The politicians/corporations make their money on VOLUME! Take a little from a lot.

jimbo2012

11-09-2016, 11:18 AM

Already getting to work.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw1QuFIXEAEGgjj.jpg

Don Baldwin

11-09-2016, 11:22 AM

Already getting to work.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw1QuFIXEAEGgjj.jpg

They started the wall?

Cool

maureenod

11-09-2016, 01:41 PM

You won't think it's funny when there are no fruit and vegetables in the supermarkets.

jimbo2012

11-09-2016, 01:46 PM

Why we can't get it legally?

Give jobs to Americans

Is that what you're saying?

AJ32162

11-09-2016, 01:47 PM

You won't think it's funny when there are no fruit and vegetables in the supermarkets.

Yeah, like that's going to happen. Wake up you're dreamin'.

Fredster

11-09-2016, 03:25 PM

You won't think it's funny when there are no fruit and vegetables in the supermarkets.

A lot of our fruits and vegetables are already
grown South of the Border!

maureenod

11-09-2016, 06:09 PM

A lot of our fruits and vegetables are already
grown South of the Border!

Go out to the farms from Maine to Florida, California to Texas and everywhere in between, see who is working in the fields. Not Americans.

AJ32162

11-09-2016, 06:22 PM

Go out to the farms from Maine to Florida, California to Texas and everywhere in between, see who is working in the fields. Not Americans.

So, what is your solution?

jimbo2012

11-09-2016, 06:23 PM

As long as they are legal fine.

They can be replaced by Americans, better than food stamps or living in poverty.

LitespeedRider

11-09-2016, 06:33 PM

Go out to the farms from Maine to Florida, California to Texas and everywhere in between, see who is working in the fields. Not Americans.

No, fat lazy ignorant ******* are talking on their Qbama phones and watching their HDTV's.....what day is check day again? Wait, how many kids you say I gots?

maureenod

11-09-2016, 06:46 PM

So, what is your solution?

Better start growing your own. And learn how to shingle your house.

ColdNoMore

11-09-2016, 07:08 PM

No, fat lazy ignorant ******* are talking on their Qbama phones and watching their HDTV's.....what day is check day again? Wait, how many kids you say I gots?

So another racist exposes his spots...and proves me correct. :ohdear:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1317908-post11.html

Trump won not only because Hillary is hated more than people love this country, but he also very effectively tapped into the undercurrent of xenophobia, hate, racism, bigotry and misogyny...that has built up since Obama was elected.

AJ32162

11-09-2016, 07:47 PM

Better start growing your own. And learn how to shingle your house.

Been there, done that.:D

AJ32162

11-09-2016, 07:48 PM

So another racist exposes his spots...and proves me correct. :ohdear:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1317908-post11.html

Would you like a little cheese with that whine?

MDLNB

11-09-2016, 11:09 PM

You won't think it's funny when there are no fruit and vegetables in the supermarkets.

You are not very well informed. I will not explain it to you. You have the same search engines available as I do, so do yourself a favor and do some research before making a fool of yourself.

maureenod

11-10-2016, 03:48 PM

You are not very well informed. I will not explain it to you. You have the same search engines available as I do, so do yourself a favor and do some research before making a fool of yourself.

Excuse me, I am VERY well informed, I was born and raised on a big farm, when every thing was manual labor. I do not need search engines, I spent many, many years in the fields.

You, on the other hand, need to be on a computer, day and night. By your very own words, you said you are anti social. Your wife is gone all day, obviously she doesn't want to be with you.

jimbo2012

11-10-2016, 04:04 PM

I have to ask how did you learn all that from a post?

MDLNB

11-10-2016, 04:18 PM

Excuse me, I am VERY well informed, I was born and raised on a big farm, when every thing was manual labor. I do not need search engines, I spent many, many years in the fields.

You, on the other hand, need to be on a computer, day and night. By your very own words, you said you are anti social. Your wife is gone all day, obviously she doesn't want to be with you.

You have me mistaken with someone else.

You also seem to be one of the culprits that criminally hired illegal aliens if what you said is even remotely true. But, that doesn't matter. There are plenty of truck farms that sell their produce that do NOT use illegal labor. Besides, if you liberals get your way at making the invaders legally documented, do you think you will still be able to exploit them for below minimum wages? Of course not, because then they will demand union wages, or at the very least leave you to find other means of work that pays higher. So, whine all you wish about losing your slave labor because of the wall, but no one is going to sympathize with you. And guess what, when they are legal then they can at the very least demand minimum wages to work the fields. Liberals will end up cutting their own throats.

Automation will take the illegals' place eventually, so it's better to get rid of them now, rather than pay them welfare later.

maureenod

11-10-2016, 04:55 PM

I have to ask how did you learn all that from a post?

Check out his other posts on search...he probably already deleated them. No, I do not condone slave labor..if the illegals get kicked out, just be prepared for sky rocket prices from food, hotels, restaurants, landscapers, construction workers.

Granted, there are some low life's, but the majority are hard working and law abiding. And nearly all pay taxes.

There are more illegals coming in from Europe, Asia, India, all they have to do is buy a airplane ticket, and not return.

The $100 billion plus wall is not going to stop them.

That will be the real "build out".

maureenod

11-10-2016, 05:04 PM

You have me mistaken with someone else.

You also seem to be one of the culprits that criminally hired illegal aliens if what you said is even remotely true. But, that doesn't matter. There are plenty of truck farms that sell their produce that do NOT use illegal labor. Besides, if you liberals get your way at making the invaders legally documented, do you think you will still be able to exploit them for below minimum wages? Of course not, because then they will demand union wages, or at the very least leave you to find other means of work that pays higher. So, whine all you wish about losing your slave labor because of the wall, but no one is going to sympathize with you. And guess what, when they are legal then they can at the very least demand minimum wages to work the fields. Liberals will end up cutting their own throats.

Automation will take the illegals' place eventually, so it's better to get rid of them now, rather than pay them welfare later.

No, we were all legal in Ireland. Some vegetables and fruit will never be automated, they are too delicate. STrawberries, blueberries to name a few. Lettuce is picked and packed by hand right in the fields by illegals

jimbo2012

11-10-2016, 05:09 PM

The $100 billion plus wall is not going to stop them.

That will be the real "build out".

It is estimated at $8 Billion not $100

MDLNB

11-11-2016, 05:39 AM

No, we were all legal in Ireland. Some vegetables and fruit will never be automated, they are too delicate. STrawberries, blueberries to name a few. Lettuce is picked and packed by hand right in the fields by illegals

Do you have any idea what you post? Your rambling thoughts are puzzling and irrational. We are talking about America, NOT some foreign country.

You said "Check out his other posts on search...he probably already deleated them." Which also makes no sense at all. By the way, I have "DELETED" none of my posts, if that matters to you.

MDLNB

11-11-2016, 06:18 AM

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/05/the-fiscal-cost-of-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayer

Americans pay quite a sum to provide services to illegals, but it would double if we gave them amnesty. See the chart below, which is a bit outdated. BUILD THE WALL!

Don Baldwin

11-11-2016, 06:30 AM

ColdNoMore

11-11-2016, 06:45 AM

It is estimated at $8 Billion not $100

That's Trump's estimate.

Most economists have it between $30B & $50B.

There are going to be a whole lot of pizzed off racists though, when they find out that his 30ft-40ft high wall is a lot shorter than the entire border that they imagined.

LitespeedRider

11-11-2016, 06:51 AM

That's Trump's estimate.

Most economists have it between $30B & $50B.

There are going to be a whole lot of pizzed off racists though, when they find out that his 30ft-40ft high wall is a lot shorter than the entire border that they imagined.

Can we first start a new program that will take the bricklayers away from the wall? I call it - "Prisons for Protesters". These will be small dark, dank cells with no "unlock" feature on the door.

I suppose we could use some of the newly vacant real estate in Guantanamo Bay

jimbo2012

11-11-2016, 07:30 AM

That's Trump's estimate.

Most economists have it between $30B & $50B.

So you want to go by someone who don't know construction vs someone who has built buildings?

Never saw an economist with a hard hat?

MDLNB

11-11-2016, 09:01 AM

So you want to go by someone who don't know construction vs someone who has built buildings?

Never saw an economist with a hard hat?

Agree.

Kind of like how the CBO agreed with Obama that Obamcare would not cost America a single dime. How'd that work out for us?

I'll take Trump's word over intellectuals any day. He has proven them wrong throughout this campaign, from the primary to the general election.

Where's our gambler guy on here now that the election is over? Wonder how much he lost on his bet. He kept predicting how all the bookies were giving odds that Hillary would win. I wonder how much his arrogance has cost him.

Don Baldwin

11-11-2016, 12:09 PM

I have to ask how did you learn all that from a post?

Those women are good at that...they can tell your entire life story after reading a few words on a political forum.

It's why they can't be trusted with important decisions...too emotionally driven.

Agree.

Kind of like how the CBO agreed with Obama that Obamcare would not cost America a single dime. How'd that work out for us?

I'll take Trump's word over intellectuals any day. He has proven them wrong throughout this campaign, from the primary to the general election.

Where's our gambler guy on here now that the election is over? Wonder how much he lost on his bet. He kept predicting how all the bookies were giving odds that Hillary would win. I wonder how much his arrogance has cost him.

Only a FOOL would have believed the lies told before te vote...come on...we have to pass it to find out what's in it???

You CAN'T insure 50 million people without someone paying more. They certainly aren't paying what it costs for their own insurance, people on welfare aren't paying anything for it. All the costs are paid by us.

MDLNB

11-11-2016, 04:34 PM

Out of 45 million that they said did not have insurance, only ten million more have insurance than before Obamcare. And about half of those that signed up are the ones that lost their insurance because of Obamacare. Obamacare turned out to be what lost the election for Hillary. She can thank Obama, Harry, Pelogrosi (gotta pass it to see it) for that monster. Now, how hard is it going to be to get rid of it? Probably a lot harder than passing it.

ColdNoMore

11-11-2016, 05:06 PM

So you want to go by someone who don't know construction vs someone who has built buildings?

Never saw an economist with a hard hat?

The materials alone are double Trump's estimate.

So no, I don't trust that Trump knows a damn thing about construction except how to act as a con man to sell it.

An Engineer does the Cost Estimate of Trump's Wall - Album on Imgur (http://imgur.com/gallery/KVdSb)

Going off of materials estimate we have… 167,272,000 cubic yards of cast-in-place concrete at $93/cubic yard = $15,556,296,000 1,030,000 segments of 10’ pre-cast panels at $17/panel = $17,510,000 2,500,000 tons of steel rebar at $600/ton = $1,500,000,000

Total Material Cost Estimate:$17,073,806,000

$17 Billion!! To give you a mild idea of how much that is, $17 billion is roughly NASA's yearly operating budget.

And let’s take a reality check for a moment: this is only a rough materials costs for the project. I haven’t yet taken into account the cost of labor or machinery, not to mention the millions of dollars it would cost for design work, surveying, and land acquisition. If I had an RSmeans book (construction estimating tool) handy I would be able to do a more in depths cost estimate of this Wall.

I know, I know...those pesky things called 'facts' again. :ohdear:

Fredster

11-11-2016, 05:28 PM

That's Trump's estimate.

Most economists have it between $30B & $50B.

There are going to be a whole lot of pizzed off racists though, when they find out that his 30ft-40ft high wall is a lot shorter than the entire border that they imagined.

Why do arrogant fools always make it a race thing!
And call people racist that want our immigration laws enforced.
Can't you understand the laws apply to everyone no
matter where they come from!
And there are practical reasons the laws were enacted in
the first place!

jimbo2012

11-11-2016, 07:07 PM

The materials alone are double Trump's estimate.

So no, I don't trust that Trump knows a damn thing about construction except how to act as a con man to sell it.

An Engineer does the Cost Estimate of Trump's Wall - Album on Imgur (http://imgur.com/gallery/KVdSb)

Going off of materials estimate we have� 167,272,000 cubic yards of cast-in-place concrete at $93/cubic yard = $15,556,296,000 1,030,000 segments of 10� pre-cast panels at $17/panel = $17,510,000 2,500,000 tons of steel rebar at $600/ton = $1,500,000,000

I know, I know...those pesky things called 'facts' again. :ohdear:

You are so not cool

Funny last I read it was not going to be concrete.