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Warren Kiefer
11-18-2016, 10:46 AM
Can anyone tell me why Trump would have his daughter sit in on his first meeting with a Head of State from Japan.

Rockyrd
11-18-2016, 10:49 AM
Can anyone tell me why Trump would have his daughter sit in on his first meeting with a Head of State from Japan.

This might be a bold statement, but Trump will make ALL decisions while in the WH based on what might benefit his family business.

I await, if ever, to see his tax returns and his character and morals tell me, that his family running his business will be in on anything that will benefit Trump, Inc

TexaninVA
11-18-2016, 11:17 AM
This might be a bold statement, but Trump will make ALL decisions while in the WH based on what might benefit his family business.

I await, if ever, to see his tax returns and his character and morals tell me, that his family running his business will be in on anything that will benefit Trump, Inc

Not "bold" just spectacularly wrong, as usual

Chi-Town
11-18-2016, 12:00 PM
Can anyone tell me why Trump would have his daughter sit in on his first meeting with a Head of State from Japan.
Perhaps kind of a Geisha thing.

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jimbo2012
11-18-2016, 12:47 PM
I await, if ever, to see his tax returns

$20 says he will not now, no upside nor R they required.

Move on the problems that need to be addressed

graciegirl
11-18-2016, 12:49 PM
This might be a bold statement, but Trump will make ALL decisions while in the WH based on what might benefit his family business.

I await, if ever, to see his tax returns and his character and morals tell me, that his family running his business will be in on anything that will benefit Trump, Inc

Stop. Richard.

Rockyrd
11-18-2016, 12:56 PM
$20 says he will not now, no upside nor R they required.

Move on the problems that need to be addressed

President of the United States personal debt to foreign nations and relationships that may compromise his decisions.....

They seem to be something that should have been addressed. BUT, without that being addressed we can just wonder why the family is si deeply involved.

"President-elect Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka sat in on his first face-to-face meeting with a foreign leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to a photo of the impromptu Trump Tower summit released by the Japanese government.

Her inclusion comes as Trump faces questions about how he plans to provide assurances that his vast business empire will be walled off from his official duties in the White House. Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, along with Trump's adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, played major roles in his campaign and have all been named to the executive committee of his transition team."

Ivanka Trump sits in on meeting with Japanese prime minister - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/11/ivanka-trump-shinzo-abe-meeting-231593)

"After receiving backlash for having his daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, at a private meeting between him and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, President-elect Donald Trump is said to be making some changes.

A source close to the 70-year-old said that while Thursday’s meeting “was informal” and that Trump “has always encouraged Ivanka and his kids to attend meetings with him,” that would be changing moving forward.

“[The President-elect and his family] need to adjust to the new realities and they will,” the insider explained."

Backlash Over Ivanka Trump's Meeting with Japanese Leader as Source Says Trumps Are ‘Adjusting to New Realities' (http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-meets-japanese-prime-minister-with-daughter-ivanka-and-her-husband-by-his-side/)

Seems he may be understanding how stupid this was and might be changing a bit.

Those who abhor the media can thank them for setting this straight.......this meeting pic has set off a firestorm.

RickeyD
11-18-2016, 01:01 PM
This might be a bold statement, but Trump will make ALL decisions while in the WH based on what might benefit his family business.



I await, if ever, to see his tax returns and his character and morals tell me, that his family running his business will be in on anything that will benefit Trump, Inc



Trump Resort on the Caspian ?

MDLNB
11-18-2016, 01:28 PM
$20 says he will not now, no upside nor R they required.

Move on the problems that need to be addressed

:thumbup:

MDLNB
11-18-2016, 01:34 PM
Wasn't Robert Kennedy appointed AG by JFK? Did they change the rules since then?

Just wondering what the problem is by having his daughter in the room when he met with the Prime Minister. Obama never cared about any rules, so why has he been given a pass for the past 8 years, or should I not be asking?

Rockyrd
11-18-2016, 01:35 PM
Wasn't Robert Kennedy appointed AG by JFK? Did they change the rules since then?

Just wondering what the problem is by having his daughter in the room when he met with the Prime Minister. Obama never cared about any rules, so why has he been given a pass for the past 8 years, or should I not be asking?

YES it has changed

The Bitter Feud Behind the Law That Could Keep Jared Kushner Out of the White House - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/1976-nepotism-law-lyndon-johnson-bobby-kennedy-trump-kushner-214465)

janmcn
11-18-2016, 01:40 PM
Wasn't Robert Kennedy appointed AG by JFK? Did they change the rules since then?

Just wondering what the problem is by having his daughter in the room when he met with the Prime Minister. Obama never cared about any rules, so why has he been given a pass for the past 8 years, or should I not be asking?


Yes, the current 'nepotism' law was passed in 1967, four years after JFK died.

Trump also would not allow the press to cover this meeting, which accounts for the only photo being one supplied by the Japanese.

Trump's children and son-in-law clearly know that he is in way over his head and have vowed that one of them will be with him at all times.

Rockyrd
11-18-2016, 01:41 PM
Stop. Richard.

STOP ?

Stop ? I do not recall any such backlash on the racist, anti semitic personal attacks on this forum.

Are you requiring those who know something about Trump to be silenced ?

And do not go to Clinton or the "libtard" remarks. I am and always will be a conservative Republican......

I never posted anything about Trump policies (those we knew of) and never posted anything that was pro Clinton....

I simply am aware that our President is devoid of any traits that might even be construed as positive. I am also aware that until I see a tax return, I do not and will not trust anything he does with foreign countries. There was and is a reason for this coverup and secrecy.

I might suggest you wave a stop sign at others who simply spout out things with no facts, no understanding and frankly a lack of caring.

But if you say STOP....gee.....bye

Rockyrd
11-18-2016, 01:42 PM
sorry for still being here.....my STOP is coming....

But, his business relationships in the rest of the world have a BIG influence on my countries future as he is the President, thus I want to know and assume your lack of caring means the opposite

MDLNB
11-18-2016, 02:00 PM
Yes, the current 'nepotism' law was passed in 1967, four years after JFK died.

Trump also would not allow the press to cover this meeting, which accounts for the only photo being one supplied by the Japanese.

Trump's children and son-in-law clearly know that he is in way over his head and have vowed that one of them will be with him at all times.

Let me ask you this question, seriously. Is there really someone that gives a sh*t that he had his daughter in a meeting with the PM? And you do know that he is NOT yet the president, right? And if there is someone that cares, exactly for what reason does this concern them?

Other than you saying that he is in over his head, do you have any proof of that statement or is this just your biased opinion? You know I have said the same thing about Obama for several years after he was elected, and so have many others, but that did not seem to matter to Obama or anyone that voted for him. Of course, in my case I/we were right. And once Trump erases all of Obama's mistakes, no one will even know Obama existed.

janmcn
11-18-2016, 02:09 PM
Let me ask you this question, seriously. Is there really someone that gives a sh*t that he had his daughter in a meeting with the PM? And you do know that he is NOT yet the president, right? And if there is someone that cares, exactly for what reason does this concern them?

Other than you saying that he is in over his head, do you have any proof of that statement or is this just your biased opinion? You know I have said the same thing about Obama for several years after he was elected, and so have many others, but that did not seem to matter to Obama or anyone that voted for him. Of course, in my case I/we were right. And once Trump erases all of Obama's mistakes, no one will even know Obama existed.


There is a clear conflict of interest when the person running the Trump org (Ivanka) meets with a world leader.

Check out the Donald for signs of early Alzheimer's disease, a disease that killed his father. Remember how Ronnie Reagan acted in office years before being diagnosed.

MDLNB
11-18-2016, 02:32 PM
There is a clear conflict of interest when the person running the Trump org (Ivanka) meets with a world leader.

Check out the Donald for signs of early Alzheimer's disease, a disease that killed his father. Remember how Ronnie Reagan acted in office years before being diagnosed.

And yet Reagan is known as the best president in history. We could only hope for so much with Trump.

There is only a conflict of interest construed by those that want to believe there to be. He is not president and his daughter is part of his family. His family, that will be in and out of the White House, as would Billy if Hillary would have been elected. And Billy did not refrain from his lucrative business in their "charity" fund when she was Secstate and she did not refrain from being associated with the fund when she was Secstate. So, lets not get carried away.

Rockyrd
11-18-2016, 02:33 PM
Let me ask you this question, seriously. Is there really someone that gives a sh*t that he had his daughter in a meeting with the PM? And you do know that he is NOT yet the president, right? And if there is someone that cares, exactly for what reason does this concern them?

Other than you saying that he is in over his head, do you have any proof of that statement or is this just your biased opinion? You know I have said the same thing about Obama for several years after he was elected, and so have many others, but that did not seem to matter to Obama or anyone that voted for him. Of course, in my case I/we were right. And once Trump erases all of Obama's mistakes, no one will even know Obama existed.

Let me try it this way.....

Imagine a movie idea...

About a very rich man who has actually called himself "the King of Debt" basically because he uses debt in running a real estate PRIVATELY OWNED company.

He runs this FAMILY BUSINESS. with his daughter and two sons.

The country, let's call it USA, has enemies and allies. One "enemy", let's call it Russia. Now Russia has nefarious goals. They want to dismantle NATO to stop people from halting their aggression in Europe; they want free reign in Syria to kill off the rebels.

That rich man, the Debt King, becomes President of the US. On his campaign, he hints he may want to at min weaken NATO; he heaps praise on Russ.

The new Presidents company is PRIVATE which allows secrecy and total privacy.. Normally, in presidential races, the candidates release their tax returns so as to rid any doubts of conflict of interests. This new President refused to do that, saying he could not because of being audited, which does not in any way prevent that release; actually many RICHER people also under audit release theirs or offer to in order to induce transparency but he still does not release them.

So, forgetting to add, the new President has done and continues to do billions of dollars in Russia, and with companies and countries that have supported terrorism.

So, this King of Debt is stopill trying to hold onto to control over his companies...he wants no real blind trust. He says his children will run the business.

So, his first meeting in person with a foreign rep, his daughter and son in law are the ones the new President insures attend the meeting.

Sound like a good movie ?

Rockyrd
11-18-2016, 02:35 PM
If in fact this new President can either make money or get help with large debt, should not the citizens know this might enter into our country's business ?

If transparency is the issue, and the election is over, why might he still be hiding his business interests from the country ?

ColdNoMore
11-18-2016, 02:49 PM
STOP ?

Stop ? I do not recall any such backlash on the racist, anti semitic personal attacks on this forum.

Are you requiring those who know something about Trump to be silenced ?

And do not go to Clinton or the "libtard" remarks. I am and always will be a conservative Republican......

I never posted anything about Trump policies (those we knew of) and never posted anything that was pro Clinton....

I simply am aware that our President is devoid of any traits that might even be construed as positive. I am also aware that until I see a tax return, I do not and will not trust anything he does with foreign countries. There was and is a reason for this coverup and secrecy.

I might suggest you wave a stop sign at others who simply spout out things with no facts, no understanding and frankly a lack of caring.

But if you say STOP....gee.....bye

Don't stop.

The world (and especially this site)...need more decent people like yourself. :thumbup:

Don't let the nasty bullies win.

MDLNB
11-18-2016, 02:55 PM
If in fact this new President can either make money or get help with large debt, should not the citizens know this might enter into our country's business ?

If transparency is the issue, and the election is over, why might he still be hiding his business interests from the country ?

Maybe because he is not the one that advocated transparency? It was Obama that promised it and failed.

Trump's private business is His business. You can move on now. Find something else to gig him on. His hair has already been used, so try something new.

Rockyrd
11-18-2016, 03:00 PM
Maybe because he is not the one that advocated transparency? It was Obama that promised it and failed.

Trump's private business is His business. You can move on now. Find something else to gig him on. His hair has already been used, so try something new.

If his private business interferes with my country's business then it becomes all of our business. He knew that when he ran, but didn't expect to win....just expect more on this

janmcn
11-19-2016, 05:50 PM
This probably will not come as a surprise to anyone, but Ivanka Trump and husband, Jarod Kurshner. are registered democrats. Two New York Jews being democrats, who could see that coming?

MDLNB
11-20-2016, 05:47 AM
This probably will not come as a surprise to anyone, but Ivanka Trump and husband, Jarod Kurshner. are registered democrats. Two New York Jews being democrats, who could see that coming?

Old news.

MDLNB
11-20-2016, 05:49 AM
If his private business interferes with my country's business then it becomes all of our business. He knew that when he ran, but didn't expect to win....just expect more on this

And yet, you care nothing about REAL justice. Why aren't you screaming about prosecuting Hillary for all her crimes? Because it does not suit your fancy, right? Hypocrite.

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 07:24 AM
And yet, you care nothing about REAL justice. Why aren't you screaming about prosecuting Hillary for all her crimes? Because it does not suit your fancy, right? Hypocrite.

1. According to our justice system, Clinton has committed no crimes.

2. As often is said on here...she lost get over it. Why is she the subject of any post. Donald J Trump is President Elect.

ColdNoMore
11-20-2016, 07:27 AM
1. According to our justice system, Clinton has committed no crimes.

2. As often is said on here...she lost get over it. Why is she the subject of any post. Donald J Trump is President Elect.

Because as proved by this election, Hillary (and women/blacks in general) are hated more...than people love this country.

jimbo2012
11-20-2016, 07:34 AM
1. According to our justice system, Clinton has committed no crimes.




I thought pot was only approved for Med use in Fl.

Where are you buying it?

MDLNB
11-20-2016, 07:52 AM
1. According to our justice system, Clinton has committed no crimes.

2. As often is said on here...she lost get over it. Why is she the subject of any post. Donald J Trump is President Elect.

Not true. She has not been exonerated in court. The FBI found plenty of evidence of her culpability regarding felonies. They just said they were not going to charge her. That's where the problem is. I am not a lawyer, but I do have some law enforcement experience and even I could present a good enough case to get her convicted in a court of law. And yes, I probably know more about handling classified information in the State Dept environment than Comey. I had to be an expert or go to jail, at the very least be fired from the State Dept. So, if I do not know more than he does, I bet I know as much as he does on the State Dept side.

Sorry, but I will not "get over it" until Hillary is held accountable for her multitude of criminal violations. Violations that contributed to the deaths of several Americans. You do not care about those Americans dying but others do.

jimbo2012
11-20-2016, 08:00 AM
F**king Hillery did this to Chris Stevens and others

Anyone think she's not a lying scumbag

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Hillary-ordered-murder-chris-stevens-700x350.jpg



March 23, 2011: In this email, Clinton’s then-chief of staff Jacob Sullivan wrote to Clinton about the NATO mission in Libya. Sullivan also wrote that someone named Bill was “trying to make sure Chris Stevens gets into E. Libya.”
March 27, 2011: This is an email between two State Department officials that was then forwarded to Clinton. Regarding his location and travel plans, the email said, “The current game plan is for Mr. Stevens to move no later than Wednesday from Malta to Benghazi. He will stage off shore initially for a one day visit during which he will have meetings with TNC interlocutors and get a sense of the situation on the ground. The goal of this one day trip is for him to lay the groundwork for a stay of up to 30 days.”
April 8, 2011: An email among State Department employees that was later forwarded to Clinton said, “Security situation in Benghazi remains quiet. Chris Stevens & team are in the hotel, moving only for meetings as required.”
April 10, 2011: Another email among State Department employees later forwarded to Clinton marked said, “The situation in Ajdabiyah has worsened to the point where Stevens is considering departure from Benghazi. The envoy’s delegation is currently doing a phased checkout.
April 24, 2011: A final email among State Department employees later forwarded to Clinton: “Stevens will be meeting with MFA in one hour and will make a written request for better security at the hotel and for better security-related coordination. He still feels comfortable in the hotel. They are looking into the idea of moving into a villa, but that is some way off.”

Allegiance
11-20-2016, 08:35 AM
Hillarys selfish disregard of laws directly led to deaths, it's cut and dry. How many we might never know. Trump will have access to a lot more info, especially through the covert systems that are unofficial.

MDLNB
11-20-2016, 09:25 AM
F**king Hillery did this to Chris Stevens and others

Anyone think she's not a lying scumbag

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Hillary-ordered-murder-chris-stevens-700x350.jpg



March 23, 2011: In this email, Clinton’s then-chief of staff Jacob Sullivan wrote to Clinton about the NATO mission in Libya. Sullivan also wrote that someone named Bill was “trying to make sure Chris Stevens gets into E. Libya.”
March 27, 2011: This is an email between two State Department officials that was then forwarded to Clinton. Regarding his location and travel plans, the email said, “The current game plan is for Mr. Stevens to move no later than Wednesday from Malta to Benghazi. He will stage off shore initially for a one day visit during which he will have meetings with TNC interlocutors and get a sense of the situation on the ground. The goal of this one day trip is for him to lay the groundwork for a stay of up to 30 days.”
April 8, 2011: An email among State Department employees that was later forwarded to Clinton said, “Security situation in Benghazi remains quiet. Chris Stevens & team are in the hotel, moving only for meetings as required.”
April 10, 2011: Another email among State Department employees later forwarded to Clinton marked said, “The situation in Ajdabiyah has worsened to the point where Stevens is considering departure from Benghazi. The envoy’s delegation is currently doing a phased checkout.
April 24, 2011: A final email among State Department employees later forwarded to Clinton: “Stevens will be meeting with MFA in one hour and will make a written request for better security at the hotel and for better security-related coordination. He still feels comfortable in the hotel. They are looking into the idea of moving into a villa, but that is some way off.”

All of the information you listed was supposed to be CLASSIFIED Secret/code word if not higher. She had this stuff on an unsecured, unencrypted email server that transmitted over the open Internet. This was a felony violation that should have been indictable. And they wonder why average Americans distrust the system so much.

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 09:29 AM
All of the information you listed was supposed to be CLASSIFIED Secret/code word if not higher. She had this stuff on an unsecured, unencrypted email server that transmitted over the open Internet. This was a felony violation that should have been indictable. And they wonder why average Americans distrust the system so much.

Someday you will need to let go of Hillary Clinton.

She is not a candidate, not in public life, and obviously our United States Justice department does not have access to your all knowing or information.

Allegiance
11-20-2016, 09:44 AM
Someday you will need to let go of Hillary Clinton.

She is not a candidate, not in public life, and obviously our United States Justice department does not have access to your all knowing or information.
The sad part is that they have access to so much more, but in an effort to protect racist Obama and the Democratic party in general they look the other way.

I hope when THE DONALD gets hold of the real NSA information he brings them down, we will see the true Obama Clinton legacy. [emoji33]

Warren Kiefer
11-20-2016, 09:49 AM
Hillarys selfish disregard of laws directly led to deaths, it's cut and dry. How many we might never know. Trump will have access to a lot more info, especially through the covert systems that are unofficial.

Duh ???? Who did Hillary kill ???

Chi-Town
11-20-2016, 10:01 AM
Old news.
Old news? MD, every Obama or Clinton post of yours is recycled old news.

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janmcn
11-20-2016, 10:39 AM
All of the information you listed was supposed to be CLASSIFIED Secret/code word if not higher. She had this stuff on an unsecured, unencrypted email server that transmitted over the open Internet. This was a felony violation that should have been indictable. And they wonder why average Americans distrust the system so much.


Two questions: What does Hillary Clinton have to do with Ivanka Trump?

Second, If Hillary's email fell into the wrong hands, when will the US feel the repercussions of these dastardly acts? Do you think they will attack while Clinton's friend Obama is Pres or will they wait until her foe, Trump, is Pres?

If the perpetrators want to attack while Obama is Pres, they had better hurry since his time in office is coming to an end.

Do you think congress should conduct a TENTH hearing into Clinton's actions regarding Benghazi?

MDLNB
11-20-2016, 11:47 AM
Someday you will need to let go of Hillary Clinton.

She is not a candidate, not in public life, and obviously our United States Justice department does not have access to your all knowing or information.

I have no problem letting go. As soon as she is convicted of her crimes, I'll let it go. Is there a statute of limitations on treason?

You all talk about letting a criminal felon go, allow criminal illegal aliens go and look the other way when dope heads are trafficking in illegal drugs (according to Federal laws). Then, you want nominees to be disqualified because something they said 30 years ago. Where I come from, they call that being a hypocrite.

MDLNB
11-20-2016, 11:51 AM
Two questions: What does Hillary Clinton have to do with Ivanka Trump?

Second, If Hillary's email fell into the wrong hands, when will the US feel the repercussions of these dastardly acts? Do you think they will attack while Clinton's friend Obama is Pres or will they wait until her foe, Trump, is Pres?

If the perpetrators want to attack while Obama is Pres, they had better hurry since his time in office is coming to an end.

Do you think congress should conduct a TENTH hearing into Clinton's actions regarding Benghazi?

I would be satisfied if she was arrested and indicted for the multiple laws related to mishandling national security classified information that she violated. As far as getting people killed, I believe the four in Benghazi are evidence enough to prove that her illegally transmitting classified over the Internet is enough to charge her.

But, folks like you that have no concept of how serious the handling of classified information is, will remain ignorant and apathetic to the real world, in which they are protected from.

jimbo2012
11-20-2016, 12:02 PM
Someday you will need to let go of Hillary Clinton.

She is not a candidate, not in public life, and obviously our United States Justice department does not have access to your all knowing or information.

Agree not until she admits wrong doing or is put on trial will I let it go.

Y said "not in public life" the Clinton foundation is very public.

It is very public her work behind the scenes to protest groups and the Dem party continues

MDLNB
11-20-2016, 12:23 PM
Old news? MD, every Obama or Clinton post of yours is recycled old news.

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Glad you finally caught up, Chi. Sometimes we have to keep pounding it into thick skulls before a libtard catches it.

MDLNB
11-20-2016, 12:26 PM
Just because Hitlery lost the election doesn't give her amnesty for crimes committed. She can't be tried twice for the same crimes, but she CAN be tried FIRST before she is let off.

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 12:54 PM
Agree not until she admits wrong doing or is put on trial will I let it go.

Y said "not in public life" the Clinton foundation is very public.

It is very public her work behind the scenes to protest groups and the Dem party continues

Do what you want. Waste your time attacking a private citizen...ignore what is happening in reality, but please stop hi jacking threads

jimbo2012
11-20-2016, 01:07 PM
Not your thread!

rubicon
11-20-2016, 02:26 PM
Wasn't Robert Kennedy appointed AG by JFK? Did they change the rules since then?

Just wondering what the problem is by having his daughter in the room when he met with the Prime Minister. Obama never cared about any rules, so why has he been given a pass for the past 8 years, or should I not be asking?

didn't Obama arrange for his wife's mother to receive $160,000 annually because she watched the kids while in the WH. Talk about corruption

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 02:33 PM
didn't Obama arrange for his wife's mother to receive $160,000 annually because she watched the kids while in the WH. Talk about corruption

Personal Best Regards:

Another example of having a narrow window to get facts.

This information came from a FAKE news site (oft times linked by Breitbart) and is totally false.

First Grandma Marian Robinson to Receive Lifetime $160K Government Pension : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/marian-robinson-pension/)

You just wonder what world some live in and the show their complete ignorance by posting it.

From Snopes..

"There was no truth to this report. The Boston Tribune is a fake new site that masquerades as the online arm of a legitimate big-city newspaper in order to lure readers with fabricated clickbait stories."

"
The Boston Tribune is an offshoot of the fake Associated Media Coverage web site, which has previously published false stories claiming that Florida store owners killed 31 looters after Hurricane Matthew, that the practice of "open carry" was being banned in the United States," and that convicted murderer Jodi Arias had been released from prison.

rubicon
11-20-2016, 02:33 PM
Can anyone tell me why Trump would have his daughter sit in on his first meeting with a Head of State from Japan.

Trump continues to educate/mentor his children. clearly his daughter Ivanka and his son Eric both have political ambitions. so it would feel natural for Trump to have his children sit in on his informal visit with Japan's prime minister.

I agree he might want to re-think this sort of thing from here on out.
He may want to end this tug of war with his enterprise and
do the necessary and legal separation that is required to remove even the appearance of a conflict of interest.

Personal Best Regards:

janmcn
11-20-2016, 03:25 PM
I would be satisfied if she was arrested and indicted for the multiple laws related to mishandling national security classified information that she violated. As far as getting people killed, I believe the four in Benghazi are evidence enough to prove that her illegally transmitting classified over the Internet is enough to charge her.

But, folks like you that have no concept of how serious the handling of classified information is, will remain ignorant and apathetic to the real world, in which they are protected from.


Why oh, why oh did the nine congressional hearings, all conducted by republican house members, not reach the same conclusion? Why did the FBI's year long investigation not reach the same conclusion?

When will the US feel the consequences of her illegally transmitting classified over the internet?
Will we be attacked while Obama is still president, or will they wait until Trump is sworn in?

ColdNoMore
11-20-2016, 04:27 PM
Trump continues to educate/mentor his children. clearly his daughter Ivanka and his son Eric both have political ambitions. so it would feel natural for Trump to have his children sit in on his informal visit with Japan's prime minister.

I agree he might want to re-think this sort of thing from here on out.
He may want to end this tug of war with his enterprise and
do the necessary and legal separation that is required to remove even the appearance of a conflict of interest.

Personal Best Regards:

He won't change a damned thing, until such time that he's either impeached...or forced to resign.

His real intentions has never been to serve this country...only to build his business.

Every move he's made, from hiding his taxes to complimenting Putin...is based on his true purpose of making himself richer.

He truly admires oligarchs...and wants to be one of them.

The most pathetic part is, all too many of his ignorant supporters...don't care if he does it. :ohdear:

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 04:39 PM
He won't change a damned thing, until such time that he's either impeached...or forced to resign.

His real intentions has never been to serve this country...only to build his business.

Every move he's made, from hiding his taxes to complimenting Putin...is based on his true purpose of making himself richer.

He truly admires oligarchs...and wants to be one of them.

The most pathetic part is, all too many of his ignorant supporters...don't care if he does it. :ohdear:

Sounds a bit bizarre but I agree and said so a few days ago.

This is the single less transparent person ever in this office and has many skeletons to hide.

I still think he resigns at some point

jimbo2012
11-20-2016, 04:57 PM
you two should go to Las Vegas, you have a crystal ball we don't

TexaninVA
11-20-2016, 04:58 PM
He won't change a damned thing, until such time that he's either impeached...or forced to resign.

His real intentions has never been to serve this country...only to build his business.

Every move he's made, from hiding his taxes to complimenting Putin...is based on his true purpose of making himself richer.

He truly admires oligarchs...and wants to be one of them.

The most pathetic part is, all too many of his ignorant supporters...don't care if he does it. :ohdear:

I can’t tell you how ENTERTAINING it is to watch liberals frothing at the mouth, while citing their same tired and deranged talking points on Trump.

Please, if you don’t mind, would you give us some more demonstrations of same?

jimbo2012
11-20-2016, 05:02 PM
first they have to recognize they're doing it

mostly in denial at the moment

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 05:15 PM
you two should go to Las Vegas, you have a crystal ball we don't

Well, surely I have said I THOUGHT this would happen and offered it as an opinion, so smart a$$ remarks aside I still believe it.

Not alone by the way...back in March read this.....

"In an open letter to voters supporting Donald Trump in the Republican presidential primary, the former communications director of Trump’s now-defunct Super PAC said that the former reality television star not only never expected to be the Republican nominee, much less president, but never even wanted to be.

Writing for the website xojane.com, Stephanie Cegielski said that when she was brought aboard as communications director for the Make America Great Again PAC last summer, the instructions from Trump Tower were to make sure that Trump finished a respectable second in the GOP primary. It was made clear that Trump was running not as a serious contender, but as a “protest” candidate.

That certainly does not make it so, nor am I saying any such thing. There were news reports on air back during the nomination process where associates said the same thing, BUT

That proves nothing.

As I said, my opinion is based on a few things...

1. In his entire life...I mean as far back as you check, and I did. This man has never done anything or said anything that did not offer gains for HIM. That is validated by 5 biographers, his writings, his ghost writer and other sources so it is not a guess.

2. His company is PRIVATE, and up to now he has resisrpted any thought of a blind trust. He is currently fighting with ethics folks on how he might satisfy everyone. The WSJ on Friday offered up resolutions, but he resists them all.

3. Why does he resist ? Not sure obviously, but this is the least transparent President Elect and with a private business, LOTS of foreign debt, and no tax returns, we know nothing.

He will face big time hurdles in any negotiations where tax reform, wall st reform, etc are on the table. He has ties wit Iran, Russia, Turkey and folks who at one times were "involved" with terrorism. All of that is known.

All that together just suggests that he is not going to open up, nor lose any money.

Heck, the WSJ recommendation requires him to sell everything and put into a blind trust.
, and already he has Giuliani out saying that would put his kids out of work.

So, I do not know, but think this board is about informed opinions.

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 05:16 PM
first they have to recognize they're doing it

mostly in denial at the moment

PLEASE what is it that I am in denial about ?

Is this another attempt to nook everybody as not knowing Trump won so you can say it and then trash Clinton ?

Actually election is over and conversation should shift to cabinet appointments and issues. Certainly NOT what the President thinks of SN L or Hamilton cast. He should be concentrating on bringing the country together, but I do not think he realizes HIS election is what is making the country nervous

jimbo2012
11-20-2016, 05:35 PM
Writing for the website xojane.com, Stephanie Cegielski said that when she was brought aboard as communications director for the Make America Great Again PAC last summer, the instructions from Trump Tower were to make sure that Trump finished a respectable second in the GOP primary. It was made clear that Trump was running not as a serious contender, but as a “protest” candidat[/B]e.



Come on where did you find that crappy website

Zero credibility

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 05:37 PM
Come on where did you find that crappy website

Zero credibility

Fair enough. Have you no comment on my opinion. Can't you put a few logic thoughts together ?

By the way, I do not care for the site either, but it looks good compared to most one here ��

PS...this was also on a number of New York sites, but would prefer to disregard and simply discuss the points I made.

jimbo2012
11-20-2016, 05:43 PM
because there is nothing new that you've said 10 times already

Rockyrd
11-20-2016, 05:47 PM
because there is nothing new that you've said 10 times already

And you have yet to respond to.

MDLNB
11-21-2016, 06:10 AM
Well, surely I have said I THOUGHT this would happen and offered it as an opinion, so smart a$$ remarks aside I still believe it.

Not alone by the way...back in March read this.....

"In an open letter to voters supporting Donald Trump in the Republican presidential primary, the former communications director of Trump’s now-defunct Super PAC said that the former reality television star not only never expected to be the Republican nominee, much less president, but never even wanted to be.

Writing for the website xojane.com, Stephanie Cegielski said that when she was brought aboard as communications director for the Make America Great Again PAC last summer, the instructions from Trump Tower were to make sure that Trump finished a respectable second in the GOP primary. It was made clear that Trump was running not as a serious contender, but as a “protest” candidate.

That certainly does not make it so, nor am I saying any such thing. There were news reports on air back during the nomination process where associates said the same thing, BUT

That proves nothing.

As I said, my opinion is based on a few things...

1. In his entire life...I mean as far back as you check, and I did. This man has never done anything or said anything that did not offer gains for HIM. That is validated by 5 biographers, his writings, his ghost writer and other sources so it is not a guess.

2. His company is PRIVATE, and up to now he has resisrpted any thought of a blind trust. He is currently fighting with ethics folks on how he might satisfy everyone. The WSJ on Friday offered up resolutions, but he resists them all.

3. Why does he resist ? Not sure obviously, but this is the least transparent President Elect and with a private business, LOTS of foreign debt, and no tax returns, we know nothing.

He will face big time hurdles in any negotiations where tax reform, wall st reform, etc are on the table. He has ties wit Iran, Russia, Turkey and folks who at one times were "involved" with terrorism. All of that is known.

All that together just suggests that he is not going to open up, nor lose any money.

Heck, the WSJ recommendation requires him to sell everything and put into a blind trust.
, and already he has Giuliani out saying that would put his kids out of work.

So, I do not know, but think this board is about informed opinions.

Sounds to me like you are a sore loser. Hillary is also one that never did anything that didn't benefit herself. Most politicians are like that or they do not get re-elected.

There is no law that prohibits the president from owning a business. Just like your complaint that he did not release his tax return, he is not required to give up his business either. Just because someone else may have done it, does not make it mandatory. So, get over it.

Regarding "transparency" there is no such thing and never has been. Obama makes a show of it but only because he enjoys talking in front of lots of people. He kept his secrets also. There is no rule of "transparency" regardless of what you libtards wish for. I am sure that if you would have been able to elect Hitlery, you would have had even less transparency. Of course, her reason would be to HIDE what she is doing illegally.

I see that you bait other posters to answer you. You know that you are trolling. No one really wishes to respond because they/we have answered your repetitious baiting over and over again.

I have a neighbor that refuses to leave their home because Hitlery lost and that person cannot face anyone in the neighborhood because of that person's nasty attack on Trump. Some folks make losing worst than it really is. I hated it when the socialist Obama won, twice. But, I lived with it for 8 years, glad that America survived him. We survived him because even the Democrats could not get 100% behind him. The best chuckle I got from him was his serious statement that he believes in "leading from behind" when anyone that has ever been in leadership positions or had any leadership training knows that leading from behind is another term for FOLLOWING. That's because Obama has never had any experience leading. His experience is solely based on talking. Nothing but talk. As Harry Reid said, Obama speaks very good "white" when he wants to. Yes, he speaks well on script, but when off script he rambles and bores everyone to sleep.

I really don't care what you think of Trump. He won and Hillary lost. The best part was Hillary losing. She would have been a disgrace to our country. Everyone knows she is corrupt and criminal. She would have been a very poor representative of our country. Anyone would be better, including even Bernie. And I would not have voted for him either, just saying.

jimbo2012
11-21-2016, 06:58 AM
:boxing2:

great response, but I bet he says the same old again and again

like a broken record.

Rockyrd
11-21-2016, 07:11 AM
Sounds to me like you are a sore loser. Hillary is also one that never did anything that didn't benefit herself. Most politicians are like that or they do not get re-elected.

There is no law that prohibits the president from owning a business. Just like your complaint that he did not release his tax return, he is not required to give up his business either. Just because someone else may have done it, does not make it mandatory. So, get over it.

Regarding "transparency" there is no such thing and never has been. Obama makes a show of it but only because he enjoys talking in front of lots of people. He kept his secrets also. There is no rule of "transparency" regardless of what you libtards wish for. I am sure that if you would have been able to elect Hitlery, you would have had even less transparency. Of course, her reason would be to HIDE what she is doing illegally.

I see that you bait other posters to answer you. You know that you are trolling. No one really wishes to respond because they/we have answered your repetitious baiting over and over again.

I have a neighbor that refuses to leave their home because Hitlery lost and that person cannot face anyone in the neighborhood because of that person's nasty attack on Trump. Some folks make losing worst than it really is. I hated it when the socialist Obama won, twice. But, I lived with it for 8 years, glad that America survived him. We survived him because even the Democrats could not get 100% behind him. The best chuckle I got from him was his serious statement that he believes in "leading from behind" when anyone that has ever been in leadership positions or had any leadership training knows that leading from behind is another term for FOLLOWING. That's because Obama has never had any experience leading. His experience is solely based on talking. Nothing but talk. As Harry Reid said, Obama speaks very good "white" when he wants to. Yes, he speaks well on script, but when off script he rambles and bores everyone to sleep.

I really don't care what you think of Trump. He won and Hillary lost. The best part was Hillary losing. She would have been a disgrace to our country. Everyone knows she is corrupt and criminal. She would have been a very poor representative of our country. Anyone would be better, including even Bernie. And I would not have voted for him either, just saying.


See...I don't give you children enough credit.

You keep asking and I, stupidly, keep responding..then you ask me why I answered...my grandchildren all over.

Listen, Trump is a bad human being. Clinton is a private citizen.

Think you should begin to talk governing.

jimbo2012
11-21-2016, 07:22 AM
See...I don't give you children enough credit.

You keep asking and I, stupidly, keep responding..then you ask me why I answered...my grandchildren all over.

Listen, Trump is a bad human being. Clinton is a private citizen.

Think you should begin to talk governing.

And you ask why no one engages you,

http://images.memes.com/meme/1020018

MDLNB
11-21-2016, 08:48 AM
See...I don't give you children enough credit.

You keep asking and I, stupidly, keep responding..then you ask me why I answered...my grandchildren all over.

Listen, Trump is a bad human being. Clinton is a private citizen.

Think you should begin to talk governing.

You got that point right................:a20:

You meant "In my opinion PRESIDENT Trump is a bad human being."

And you meant to say "Clinton is a private citizen, waiting to be indicted for felony crimes, including treason."