View Full Version : is it possible to have a DISCUSSION or are we doomed to partisan rock throwing only?
billethkid
11-21-2016, 08:52 AM
With all that is going on in the world this forum has been allowed to deteriorated to being a platform of hate, dis-respect and keyboard cowardice.
It certainly cannot be because some are limited to only what they hear from the biased media and the periodic talking points distribution. Although it sertainly (for the fly spec pickers!) seems that way
ColdNoMore
11-21-2016, 08:57 AM
With all that is going on in the world this forum has been allowed to deteriorated to being a platform of hate, dis-respect and keyboard cowardice.
It certainly cannot be because some are limited to only what they hear from the biased media and the periodic talking points distribution. Although it sertainly (for the fly spec pickers!) seems that way
If I may, let me shine a little light on your flaming hypocrisy.
Since you are on the vanguard of said 'rock throwing'...how about you start? :ohdear:
billethkid
11-21-2016, 08:58 AM
If I may, let me shine a little light on your flaming hypocrisy.
Since you are on the vanguard of said 'rock throwing'...how about you start? :ohdear:
Relativity is a bitch!!
Allegiance
11-21-2016, 09:01 AM
If I may, let me shine a little light on your flaming hypocrisy.
Since you are on the vanguard of said 'rock throwing'...how about you start? :ohdear:
There you go, discussion by the great menzamenz.
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Rockyrd
11-21-2016, 09:49 AM
With all that is going on in the world this forum has been allowed to deteriorated to being a platform of hate, dis-respect and keyboard cowardice.
It certainly cannot be because some are limited to only what they hear from the biased media and the periodic talking points distribution. Although it sertainly (for the fly spec pickers!) seems that way
Please, you sort of lead the charge for "platform of hate".
You couldn't even resist the "biased media" comment, which may be YOUR opinion.
Start a thread on some of the issues facing the country..
"President-Elect Donald Trump took 141 distinct stances on 23 major issues during his bid for the White House.
His campaign's constantly-evolving views -- often championed as a way for Trump to use unpredictability to cut better deals for the nation -- make it difficult glean a political agenda, or even a set of clear, core policy views ahead of his presidency."
The 141 Stances Donald Trump Took During His White House Bid - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801)
Stop with the race talk...
Ask opinions on wher the new administration migh go with Medicare since it is important to many here...since it seems to be evolving.
It is time to put aside the election results...it is time to govern.
If you truely want to discuss reality, so be it.
I have demonized Trump, admittedly but only in reaction to those who want to canonize him. I much prefer what we might expect in cabinet apps, potential policies, etc.
PS..as you see from the post preceding this. Some will never grow up or find it challenging to discuss issues.
One start for me, as a Western Pa guy, I followed all the discussions in the coal mining industry. How do folks feel ? Will it be brought back to life ?
Will Pelosi withstand competition and remain in charge if the house a Dems ?
Will Giuliani end up anywhere in the new administration ?
Has anyone seen the details on the replacement for Obamacare ?
"
justjim
11-21-2016, 09:55 AM
With all that is going on in the world this forum has been allowed to deteriorated to being a platform of hate, dis-respect and keyboard cowardice.
It certainly cannot be because some are limited to only what they hear from the biased media and the periodic talking points distribution. Although it sertainly (for the fly spec pickers!) seems that way
I agree with you. Some of the posts on this forum are obviously "grade school" ranting and best ignored.
jimbo2012
11-21-2016, 10:30 AM
The 141 Stances Donald Trump Took During His White House Bid - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801)
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Rocky, for starters please don't quote MSM, you'll not be taken seriously.
Rockyrd
11-21-2016, 11:17 AM
Rocky, for starters please don't quote MSM, you'll not be taken seriously.
I think I link networks, Time, Newsweek and national newspapers.
If you only will accept the Breitbart, and the fake sites like yesterday, enjoy.
I appreciate real...NOT made up news
Yes NBC should not be mentioned in thane forum as Breitbart or any if the fakes sites you approve if
Bye
TexaninVA
11-21-2016, 11:32 AM
I think I link networks, Time, Newsweek and national newspapers.
If you only will accept the Breitbart, and the fake sites like yesterday, enjoy.
I appreciate real...NOT made up news
Yes NBC should not be mentioned in thane forum as Breitbart or any if the fakes sites you approve if
Bye
Don't forget to also quote Slate, Huffington Post and the Daily Worker while you're at it
jimbo2012
11-21-2016, 11:48 AM
try these
The biggest loser in 2016? The mainstream media and journalism | TheHill (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/305919-the-biggest-loser-in-2016-the-mainstream-media-and-journalism)
Mainstream media maligned: 10 examples of blatant bias - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/8/mainstream-media-maligned-10-examples-blatant-bias/)
7 Things About The Mainstream Media That They Do Not Want You To Know >> Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! (http://www.infowars.com/7-things-about-the-mainstream-media-that-they-do-not-want-you-to-know/)
by the way I rarely look at Britbart
Twitter is good source also.
a new one that pooped up is getting millions of hits is
Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) | Twitter (https://twitter.com/mitchellvii)
Dems need not read the truths there.
billethkid
11-21-2016, 12:00 PM
The definition of rock throwing by some is if you do not agree with them or accept their point of view or do not support their candidate then one is rock throwing.
If we had access to the ignore option here on political the solution would be easy. As it is all we can hope to do is ignore the rock throwing catharsis.
Don Baldwin
11-21-2016, 12:16 PM
The definition of rock throwing by some is if you do not agree with them or accept their point of view or do not support their candidate then one is rock throwing.
If we had access to the ignore option here on political the solution would be easy. As it is all we can hope to do is ignore the rock throwing catharsis.
Ain't that the truth! I BEG them for an intelligent, rational discussion...and I get nothing.
How can you continue to believe something you can't defend?
jimbo2012
11-21-2016, 12:21 PM
I BEG them for an intelligent, rational discussion...and I get nothing.
you have nothing to contribute but your hatred
Rockyrd
11-21-2016, 12:34 PM
This place has become very very cult like.
Acceptance of fake facts, made up stories, manifestion openly NOT of disagreement, but of hate. Inability to see reality, hatred for institutions in media or government that do not serve your personal agenda, a closed mind to frailties of a leader.
Not a safe place here anymore.
MDLNB
11-21-2016, 01:20 PM
Rock throwing NO. However tomatoes are definitely entertaining...........:throwtomatoes:
Hancle704
11-21-2016, 01:43 PM
Matthew 5:5-9
MDLNB
11-21-2016, 02:32 PM
Matthew 5:5-9
Careful. You might incur the wrath of our resident atheist expert on here and set him off on another anti-religion rant.
TexaninVA
11-21-2016, 02:34 PM
Rock throwing NO. However tomatoes are definitely entertaining...........:throwtomatoes:
Very cool tomato dodging smiley icon ... I like it :coolsmiley:
Don Baldwin
11-21-2016, 03:55 PM
Matthew 5:5-9
Careful. You might incur the wrath of our resident atheist expert on here and set him off on another anti-religion rant.
The meek will inherit the earth??? SURE they will...is that why the U.S. has the largest most powerful military? The meek will get their a$$es whipped like that always do.
Your "religion" is there to control you. And collect 10%
The blacks and hispanics will inherit the earth as soon as we've been bred out. They're a cancer slowly metastasizing, slowly spreading, slowly destroying.
How was that? I got in a twofer!
TexaninVA
11-21-2016, 05:08 PM
The meek will inherit the earth??? SURE they will...is that why the U.S. has the largest most powerful military? The meek will get their a$$es whipped like that always do.
Your "religion" is there to control you. And collect 10%
The blacks and hispanics will inherit the earth as soon as we've been bred out. They're a cancer slowly metastasizing, slowly spreading, slowly destroying.
How was that? I got in a twofer!
Speaking of breeding, we can all only hope that you haven't
Allegiance
11-21-2016, 05:18 PM
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MDLNB
11-22-2016, 07:52 AM
Speaking of breeding, we can all only hope that you haven't
I doubt you have to worry about that. Only a deaf mute would be in the same time zone as him.
Don Baldwin
11-22-2016, 10:23 AM
Speaking of breeding, we can all only hope that you haven't
I doubt you have to worry about that. Only a deaf mute would be in the same time zone as him.
Oh...you liberal women...nothing to add but insults...you hypocrites! Accuse me of "defaming" people (who actually deserve it) and then turn around and defame me.
What's the difference between ME saying "blacks shouldn't breed" and YOU saying "you shouldn't breed"? The former will eventually drag your country to the ground or someone TRYING to enlighten you that you're country is being dragged to the ground?
jimbo2012
11-22-2016, 12:43 PM
Someone get the hook
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MDLNB
11-22-2016, 03:03 PM
Oh...you liberal women...nothing to add but insults...you hypocrites! Accuse me of "defaming" people (who actually deserve it) and then turn around and defame me.
What's the difference between ME saying "blacks shouldn't breed" and YOU saying "you shouldn't breed"? The former will eventually drag your country to the ground or someone TRYING to enlighten you that you're country is being dragged to the ground?
What's the difference? I don't know if you will understand, but I will type real slow for your reading ability.
The difference is that you are generalizing about all blacks whereas the poster was being specific to just YOU, as related to your conduct. Is that easy enough for you?
Ever heard of the story of chicken Little? You know, where Chicken ran around screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling." Well, you are our forum Chicken Little.
TexaninVA
11-22-2016, 05:51 PM
What's the difference? I don't know if you will understand, but I will type real slow for your reading ability.
The difference is that you are generalizing about all blacks whereas the poster was being specific to just YOU, as related to your conduct. Is that easy enough for you?
Ever heard of the story of chicken Little? You know, where Chicken ran around screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling." Well, you are our forum Chicken Little.
Good post and spot on accurate.
graciegirl
11-22-2016, 08:20 PM
Please, you sort of lead the charge for "platform of hate".
You couldn't even resist the "biased media" comment, which may be YOUR opinion.
Start a thread on some of the issues facing the country..
"President-Elect Donald Trump took 141 distinct stances on 23 major issues during his bid for the White House.
His campaign's constantly-evolving views -- often championed as a way for Trump to use unpredictability to cut better deals for the nation -- make it difficult glean a political agenda, or even a set of clear, core policy views ahead of his presidency."
The 141 Stances Donald Trump Took During His White House Bid - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801)
Stop with the race talk...
Ask opinions on wher the new administration migh go with Medicare since it is important to many here...since it seems to be evolving.
It is time to put aside the election results...it is time to govern.
If you truely want to discuss reality, so be it.
I have demonized Trump, admittedly but only in reaction to those who want to canonize him. I much prefer what we might expect in cabinet apps, potential policies, etc.
PS..as you see from the post preceding this. Some will never grow up or find it challenging to discuss issues.
One start for me, as a Western Pa guy, I followed all the discussions in the coal mining industry. How do folks feel ? Will it be brought back to life ?
Will Pelosi withstand competition and remain in charge if the house a Dems ?
Will Giuliani end up anywhere in the new administration ?
Has anyone seen the details on the replacement for Obamacare ?
"
Well according to today's information, 53% of the public are giving him a chance.
Rockyrd
11-22-2016, 08:45 PM
Well according to today's information, 53% of the public are giving him a chance.
First, I think I have been extremely clear in a large number of posts that he has my support, and he is the President of the US. Never been a doubt, and it appears that on this forum, the chest beating never stops...either being told to "get over it" or threads on Clinton. I have been clear, and the post to which you replied was asking for discussion on issues.
YET, you cannot accept that, there seems to be a need to insure everyone knows who won the election. I do not understand that need. Why is that alway the response when I, and others try to discuss issues.
That is why I suggest this has become a cult, and not a political forum.
Now to your 53% number, for which I see no reason to even mention since the post you reply to was an appeal to move on from the election and discuss the issues facing the country, yet you find it necessary again to restate who won, etc.
He is President Elect...how often do you want that said.
Again, this is a cult....replete with all the ingredients....blind loyalty to a man undeserving, rejection of any facts EXCEPT those you want, EVN IF THISE "FACTS" COME FROM PHONEY, TOTALLY DISCREDITED WEB SITES, attacks on any "outsiders" which is exactly how responses are written, personal attacks rather than discussion.
I have actually been told on this forum not to link because no media source is to be distrusted. THAT IS A CLOSED MIND AND LACK OF OPENESS TO HEAR ANYTHING BUT WHAT YOUR LEADER TELLS YOU TO LISTEN TO.
Next post to address you 53% stat.
Rockyrd
11-22-2016, 08:50 PM
This is all I cand find that refers to 53% regarding the election. Not sure of your source, and I apologize for using a link to anything mainstream, but I sorta trust Pew and if anyone wants to read it, it is interesting, but doubting it will be read.
"On the negative side, 53% say Trump’s election makes them feel uneasy. About four-in-ten say his election makes them feel sad (41%) or scared (41%), and 31% say the election of Trump makes them feel angry."
To keep in context, this is the first para. I simply post reference to 53 initially because you used that number.
"Half of voters say they are happy Donald Trump was elected president, while about as many (48%) say that they are unhappy. Reactions are similar to 2012 (when 52% said they were happy Obama was reelected), but they are less positive than after Obama’s first presidential campaign in 2008, when 58% said they were happy he was elected
Presidential election reactions and expectations | Pew Research Center (http://www.people-press.org/2016/11/21/presidential-election-reactions-and-expectations/)
jimbo2012
11-22-2016, 10:15 PM
Rocky you back from the crying room?
You last said you were outta here, what happened?
By the way to reply to your post, who cares about that stand behind the president elect.
Try being an American
he stacks up just fine
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Don Baldwin
11-22-2016, 10:28 PM
What's the difference? I don't know if you will understand, but I will type real slow for your reading ability.
The difference is that you are generalizing about all blacks whereas the poster was being specific to just YOU, as related to your conduct. Is that easy enough for you?
Ever heard of the story of chicken Little? You know, where Chicken ran around screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling." Well, you are our forum Chicken Little.
But I'm not destroying the country and they ARE. I don't bring down property values and they DO. I don't ruin a school by my presence and they DO. I'm not violent and they ARE. I won't rob you blind and they WILL. What more do you need?
My conduct? I speak the truth...bluntly. If I said it nice, would that make you happy?
Diversity destroys :smiley: OK?
Chicken Little? The sky IS falling for America...it's 1/3 Hispanic, there are 100 million of them, they're the MAJORITY below age 6. Blacks DO destroy neighborhoods...name ONE that got better. They DO ruin schools.name ONE that got better. They're violent. Dirty. What part of that is irrational? What part is false? Because that's what you're accusing me of.
There are individuals who are fine people. There are white people with less value than a dead dog. But GENERALLY what I say id true. What have they improved?
jimbo2012
11-22-2016, 10:32 PM
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Fraugoofy
11-22-2016, 10:36 PM
But I'm not destroying the country and they ARE. I don't bring down property values and they DO. I don't ruin a school by my presence and they DO. I'm not violent and they ARE. I won't rob you blind and they WILL. What more do you need?
My conduct? I speak the truth...bluntly. If I said it nice, would that make you happy?
Diversity destroys :smiley: OK?
Chicken Little? The sky IS falling for America...it's 1/3 Hispanic, there are 100 million of them, they're the MAJORITY below age 6. Blacks DO destroy neighborhoods...name ONE that got better. They DO ruin schools.name ONE that got better. They're violent. Dirty. What part of that is irrational? What part is false? Because that's what you're accusing me of.
There are individuals who are fine people. There are white people with less value than a dead dog. But GENERALLY what I say id true. What have they improved?
Your presence definitely ruins this political forum and I for sure would fire you from any school, had you happen to work under me. Would love to see your shoes sometime, oh Donny boy!!
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Don Baldwin
11-23-2016, 11:33 AM
Your presence definitely ruins this political forum and I for sure would fire you from any school, had you happen to work under me. Would love to see your shoes sometime, oh Donny boy!!
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Another DEEP comment from another woman...
Everyone should think and speak the same? Only "happy thoughts"? Only delusion? Blindness? Deafness?
A teacher huh? Making $6,000+ a month now? Piled on that overtime, hosted clubs, did whatever it would take to pad that check for the maximum pension?
And you worked a PART TIME, 180 day contract, "job" for it.
Teachers ARE important, but not the uncaring, money hungry, lazy, incompetent, ones we have now. You're OFF more than half the year! You're off 185 days a year. Work one...get one off...plus 5. So what the kids forget half the work because of all the long vacations.
Nah lady...I don't have automatic respect for a teacher.
You think you earned that?
I know a couple, both educators, they live in a $700,000 golf view home, drive Mercedes and Cadillac's, vacation, eat out all the time. How? They gamed the system, they "cheated" but "legally". I'm NOT envious, I'm disgusted.
jebartle
11-23-2016, 11:50 AM
FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK
If the election was based on FACTS, the outcome would have been so different.
MDLNB
11-23-2016, 11:55 AM
FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK
If the election was based on FACTS, the outcome would have been so different.
Depends on the subject of such facts.
billethkid
11-23-2016, 01:22 PM
FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK
If the election was based on FACTS, the outcome would have been so different.
BS!
Whining!!
Fraugoofy
11-23-2016, 02:34 PM
Another DEEP comment from another woman...
Everyone should think and speak the same? Only "happy thoughts"? Only delusion? Blindness? Deafness?
A teacher huh? Making $6,000+ a month now? Piled on that overtime, hosted clubs, did whatever it would take to pad that check for the maximum pension?
And you worked a PART TIME, 180 day contract, "job" for it.
Teachers ARE important, but not the uncaring, money hungry, lazy, incompetent, ones we have now. You're OFF more than half the year! You're off 185 days a year. Work one...get one off...plus 5. So what the kids forget half the work because of all the long vacations.
Nah lady...I don't have automatic respect for a teacher.
You think you earned that?
I know a couple, both educators, they live in a $700,000 golf view home, drive Mercedes and Cadillac's, vacation, eat out all the time. How? They gamed the system, they "cheated" but "legally". I'm NOT envious, I'm disgusted.
You could never walk in my shoes. They are way too big for your little feet!
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RickeyD
11-23-2016, 02:52 PM
Another DEEP comment from another woman...
Everyone should think and speak the same? Only "happy thoughts"? Only delusion? Blindness? Deafness?
A teacher huh? Making $6,000+ a month now? Piled on that overtime, hosted clubs, did whatever it would take to pad that check for the maximum pension?
And you worked a PART TIME, 180 day contract, "job" for it.
Teachers ARE important, but not the uncaring, money hungry, lazy, incompetent, ones we have now. You're OFF more than half the year! You're off 185 days a year. Work one...get one off...plus 5. So what the kids forget half the work because of all the long vacations.
Nah lady...I don't have automatic respect for a teacher.
You think you earned that?
I know a couple, both educators, they live in a $700,000 golf view home, drive Mercedes and Cadillac's, vacation, eat out all the time. How? They gamed the system, they "cheated" but "legally". I'm NOT envious, I'm disgusted.
I was taught by nuns. They lived communally and died penniless.
autumnspring
11-23-2016, 03:33 PM
With all that is going on in the world this forum has been allowed to deteriorated to being a platform of hate, dis-respect and keyboard cowardice.
It certainly cannot be because some are limited to only what they hear from the biased media and the periodic talking points distribution. Although it sertainly (for the fly spec pickers!) seems that way
The sad truth is the only information we have comes from our news sources. While our constitution protects our right to freedom of the press the TRUTH is our flow of information is controlled by who owes the company reporting the information AND GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF THE INFORMATION YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO.
We have heard the term too big to fail applied to our banks. ASIDE-the LIBERAL CONTROLLED PRESS has not informed us that the banks have actually grown under Obama rather than being broken up.
The same thing has happened to our news suppliers.
In the 1960's there were 49 major news suppliers. Today there are only six and five of those six are LIBERAL controlled. To my point, look it up and you will find that DISNEY controls a disproportionate number of news sources. THINK-since the LIBERALS control a large part of the news and they are anti gun, why the horrible shooting are always reported but when an armed citizen stops a crime-yes, kills a criminal IT IS NEVER REPORTED.
I for one did not vote for OBAMA. But, I would have been proud to admit I was wrong. Sadly, OBAMA rather than improving our problems, made them worse. As he leaves office, Obama will leave us with RACIAL HATRED, SUCCESS ENVY, THE IDEA THAT GOVERNMENT OWES YOU, THE IDEA THAT HARD WORK IS FOOLISH. Oh, and for all this, OBAMA WILL LEAVE AN UNPAID TAB OF TEN TRILLION DOLLARS ON THE PRESIDENTIAL DESK. Do any of you understand what TEN TRILLION DOLLARS IS? I read somewhere it is 85,000 for every man woman and child in the US. I keep asking the same question-WHAT DID HE BUY WITH THAT MONEY. By the way, that TEN TRILLION DOLLARS is an overdraft. The total Obama spent does not cout what our government has already taken out in taxes.
Obviously I voted for TRUMP but for those of us that did not, for your sake and for mine I HOPE YOU WILL HAVE TO ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG-I HOPE THAT I WILL NOT REGRET THE CHOICE I MADE.
ColdNoMore
11-23-2016, 03:57 PM
FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK
If the election was based on FACTS, the outcome would have been so different.
"FACT" is the worst four letter word...that Trump and his supporters can imagine.
His supporters would have turned against him instantly, if instead of his famous statement he had said...
"Grab them by the facts"...“You can do anything.” :1rotfl: :1rotfl:
autumnspring
11-23-2016, 03:59 PM
Please, you sort of lead the charge for "platform of hate".
You couldn't even resist the "biased media" comment, which may be YOUR opinion.
Start a thread on some of the issues facing the country..
"President-Elect Donald Trump took 141 distinct stances on 23 major issues during his bid for the White House.
His campaign's constantly-evolving views -- often championed as a way for Trump to use unpredictability to cut better deals for the nation -- make it difficult glean a political agenda, or even a set of clear, core policy views ahead of his presidency."
The 141 Stances Donald Trump Took During His White House Bid - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801)
Stop with the race talk...
Ask opinions on wher the new administration migh go with Medicare since it is important to many here...since it seems to be evolving.
It is time to put aside the election results...it is time to govern.
If you truely want to discuss reality, so be it.
I have demonized Trump, admittedly but only in reaction to those who want to canonize him. I much prefer what we might expect in cabinet apps, potential policies, etc.
PS..as you see from the post preceding this. Some will never grow up or find it challenging to discuss issues.
One start for me, as a Western Pa guy, I followed all the discussions in the coal mining industry. How do folks feel ? Will it be brought back to life ?
Will Pelosi withstand competition and remain in charge if the house a Dems ?
Will Giuliani end up anywhere in the new administration ?
Has anyone seen the details on the replacement for Obamacare ?
"
You have mentioned medicare. My wife and I just got on to medicare.
Due to my previous income-read that as having worked way more than 40 hours a week and saving for only 45 years. I was self employed so unlike most people who pay 7% to social security, I PAID 13%.
Actually as to the 7% few people realize that your employer pays in the same amount as you do-THAT IS TAX FREE INCOME TO YOU. Due to my previous income which forced me to pay the maximum into social security I now pay the top rate for medicare and have no inflation protection.
The money for medicare comes from what you paid as social security. BUSH added prescription coverage to the already underfunded plan and Obama added OBAMACARE on top of that WITH NO FUNDING-read that as tax to pay for it. The REPUBLICANS object to people being forced to pay for a national health coverage. In my mind, we have all been forced to pay into social security. SADLY PEOPLE MUST BE FORCED TO BE RESPONSIBLE-IE AUTO INSURANCE. We are not prepared to deny medical care to anyone whether they have paid for insurance or not.
FURTHER-it has been implied that China is our largest creditor the fact is we owe slightly more to Japan then to China. More important and /or shocking, together Japan and China hold 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT. So that TEN TRILLION DOLLARS that Obama added to the national debt was 42% YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY. Where but in our insane system does the borrower control the rate of interest that UNCLE SAM, COUSIN OBAMA WILL PAY ON THE AMOUNT YOU WERE FORCED TO LEND HIM?
autumnspring
11-23-2016, 04:12 PM
Please, you sort of lead the charge for "platform of hate".
You couldn't even resist the "biased media" comment, which may be YOUR opinion.
Start a thread on some of the issues facing the country..
"President-Elect Donald Trump took 141 distinct stances on 23 major issues during his bid for the White House.
His campaign's constantly-evolving views -- often championed as a way for Trump to use unpredictability to cut better deals for the nation -- make it difficult glean a political agenda, or even a set of clear, core policy views ahead of his presidency."
The 141 Stances Donald Trump Took During His White House Bid - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801)
Stop with the race talk...
Ask opinions on wher the new administration migh go with Medicare since it is important to many here...since it seems to be evolving.
It is time to put aside the election results...it is time to govern.
If you truely want to discuss reality, so be it.
I have demonized Trump, admittedly but only in reaction to those who want to canonize him. I much prefer what we might expect in cabinet apps, potential policies, etc.
PS..as you see from the post preceding this. Some will never grow up or find it challenging to discuss issues.
One start for me, as a Western Pa guy, I followed all the discussions in the coal mining industry. How do folks feel ? Will it be brought back to life ?
Will Pelosi withstand competition and remain in charge if the house a Dems ?
Will Giuliani end up anywhere in the new administration ?
Has anyone seen the details on the replacement for Obamacare ?
"
I lived in NY when Guliani was mayor. YES, THE LIBERALS SCREAMED BLOODY MURDER. Yes, they accused him of racism due to stop and frisk. THE CHANGE WAS DRAMATIC.
Before Guiliani I would see crack vials all over the city; especially around pay phones. In front of the famous library there were people hawking, drugs, sex, weapons etc
Forty Second street was taken over by porn movies, hookers, drug dealers and pan handlers.
When 9/11 happened. We not only lost the world trade center but we lost 3,000 americans. Guliani led the people.
Imagine what would have happened without a strong leader?
ASIDE-the LIBERAL CONTROLLED PRESS questioned TRUMP stating he saw MUSLIMS DANCING FOR JOY about the ATTACK on AMERICA-the world trade center. I SAW THE SAME THING ON THE STREETS OF BROOKLYN.
TexaninVA
11-23-2016, 05:52 PM
"FACT" is the worst four letter word...that Trump and his supporters can imagine.
His supporters would have turned against him instantly, if instead of his famous statement he had said...
"Grab them by the facts"...“You can do anything.” :1rotfl: :1rotfl:
Seeing your post and abnormal fonts ... I'm wondering if you need glasses or is it some other type of help??
TexaninVA
11-23-2016, 05:55 PM
You could never walk in my shoes. They are way too big for your little feet!
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I'm guessing what's actually way too big is your waist and rear end??
Fraugoofy
11-23-2016, 11:05 PM
I'm guessing what's actually way too big is your waist and rear end??
Haha. Good one! I love the playful banter on the political forum. Makes me thankful to be living in Florida's friendliest hometown!
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Don Baldwin
11-24-2016, 08:14 AM
Haha. Good one! I love the playful banter on the political forum. Makes me thankful to be living in Florida's friendliest hometown!
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Really?
I see stupid women cackling...adding nothing of substance...
Just like this post having to explain it to you.
Why don't you ladies go back to the kitchen while the men talk...hurry along sweetie.
Where's the anything goes MEN ONLY forum? Where we can REALLY talk without the name calling and the back biting.
Oh...have a Happy Thanksgiving too.
Fraugoofy
11-24-2016, 09:46 AM
Really?
I see stupid women cackling...adding nothing of substance...
Just like this post having to explain it to you.
Why don't you ladies go back to the kitchen while the men talk...hurry along sweetie.
Where's the anything goes MEN ONLY forum? Where we can REALLY talk without the name calling and the back biting.
Oh...have a Happy Thanksgiving too.
Maybe you should ask Santa for a dictionary and look up the word sarcasm.
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jimbo2012
11-24-2016, 09:56 AM
Maybe you should ask Santa for a dictionary and look up the word sarcasm.
He can't it has a BLACK cover
ColdNoMore
11-24-2016, 10:06 AM
He can't it has a BLACK cover
OK, that was pretty good. :1rotfl:
ColdNoMore
11-24-2016, 10:09 AM
Seeing your post and abnormal fonts ... I'm wondering if you need glasses or is it some other type of help??
That you chase me around like a little puppy dog, is indicative that I'm living inside your head...rent free. ;)
I have to say however...there seems to be a large echo in there. :wave:
MDLNB
11-24-2016, 01:10 PM
That you chase me around like a little puppy dog, is indicative that I'm living inside your head...rent free. ;)
I have to say however...there seems to be a large echo in there. :wave:
There she goes again, living in someone else's head rent free. Typical no-load liberal.
Hey CNM.............Pull my finger.....:a20:
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