Destined to Fail

[Chatbrat]

Read that Talbots will be opening a store in Spanish Springs.

IMHO, big mistake-of all the 3 town squares-the demographics of Spanish Springs does not represent a typical Talbots' customer, age and disposable income are not that of a typical Talbot's customer.

To be blunt--people who frequent Spanish Springs are too old and too cheap to buy what Talbot's sells

They might have had a fighting chance if they opened a store in Lake Sumter Landing.

[spring_chicken]

I guess Chico's must accept EBT from all these old, poor people since they've been thriving in SS for years catering to the same demographic.

[jgm3279]

What about Brownwood~ we need shops down south!

[Chatbrat]

No comparison between Chico's & Talbots

[jnieman]

Read that Talbots will be opening a store in Spanish Springs.

IMHO, big mistake-of all the 3 town squares-the demographics of Spanish Springs does not represent a typical Talbots' customer, age and disposable income are not that of a typical Talbot's customer.

To be blunt--people who frequent Spanish Springs are too old and too cheap to buy what Talbot's sells

They might have had a fighting chance if they opened a store in Lake Sumter Landing.

I agree. I shopped at Talbots as a working woman in corporate america. They are pretty expensive for me now.

[spring_chicken]

No comparison between Chico's & Talbots

Actually, there is. Chico's even scores more expensive on comparable items. I guess if there's "no comparison", this site wouldn't have taken the time and effort to do so.
Talbots vs. Chico's: Side-by-Side Comparison (https://talbots.knoji.com/compare-vs/chicos)

[Bavarian]

You are judging people by where they live. You assume that people only go to the Square closest to them. You judge people's worth based on WHERE YOU think they live, what house they have. Some drink their money away, others would like to have nice clothes. Who are you to judge.

[Chatbrat]

I'm judging people I see @ Spanish Springs--its 20 years older compared compared to Brownwood and 10 years older compared to Lake Sumter Landing

I go to MVP, the clientele @ the Spanish Springs MVP is definitely 20 years older than the Brownwood members

And,IMHO once a person gets past 80--they get real tight, money-wise

[Barefoot]

I'm judging people I see @ Spanish Springs--its 20 years older compared compared to Brownwood and 10 years older compared to Lake Sumter Landing.
And,IMHO once a person gets past 80--they get real tight, money-wise
I don't live in the SS area, but I'm willing to drive to Chico's occasionally to shop there.
People will also drive to Talbots if they like their clothes.

[Boomer]

That is sure a tabloidy title on this thread.

I don't think it is right.

Major retail chains know how to do their homework. Ever noticed how stores of the same type are found close to each other? Foot traffic. Chicos and Talbots together will increase foot traffic for both I bet.

Also, don't ever kid yourself about who has how much when it comes to money. Where I come from, people never talk about how much money they have. It is considered to be unseemly to do so. (That's the truth, but actually and also, I just wanted to use that word 'unseemly' because I like it.)

(I just wish they would add Ann Taylor because I can sometimes wear a size smaller there and they have skinny-fying mirrors.)

Boomer

[Bogie Shooter]

You are judging people by where they live. You assume that people only go to the Square closest to them. You judge people's worth based on WHERE YOU think they live, what house they have. Some drink their money away, others would like to have nice clothes. Who are you to judge.

That is sure a tabloidy title on this thread.

I don't think it is right.

Major retail chains know how to do their homework. Ever noticed how stores of the same type are found close to each other? Foot traffic. Chicos and Talbots together will increase foot traffic for both I bet.

Also, don't ever kid yourself about who has how much when it comes to money. Where I come from, people never talk about how much money they have.......or act like they have. It is considered to be unseemly to do so. (That's the truth, but actually and also, I just wanted to use that word 'unseemly' because I like it.)

(I just wish they would add Ann Taylor because I can sometimes wear a size smaller there and they have skinny-fying mirrors.)

Boomer

:boom:

[rubicon]

Read that Talbots will be opening a store in Spanish Springs.

IMHO, big mistake-of all the 3 town squares-the demographics of Spanish Springs does not represent a typical Talbots' customer, age and disposable income are not that of a typical Talbot's customer.

To be blunt--people who frequent Spanish Springs are too old and too cheap to buy what Talbot's sells

They might have had a fighting chance if they opened a store in Lake Sumter Landing.

Chatbrat: Perhaps your assessment is correct; albeit I would not have expressed it in quite those terms. The vast majority of people living in The Villages are living on a fixed income. They have established their financial priorities. It has nothing to do with being too cheap or what part of town they reside. Some people know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

Talbots did their research which included the area's disposable income, demographics and the area's rowth potential in and around the surrounding area of The Villages

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Chatbrat: Perhaps your assessment is correct; albeit I would not have expressed it in quite those terms. The vast majority of people living in The Villages are living on a fixed income. They have established their financial priorities. It has nothing to do with being too cheap or what part of town they reside. Some people know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

Talbots did their research which included the area's disposable income, demographics and the area's rowth potential in and around the surrounding area of The Villages

Fixed income doesn't mean low income.

[johnboy]

You drive to MVP, what makes you think people who are much richer on the south end won't drive to SS to shop at Talbot's?

[dewilson58]

I'm in the South and I won't shop there.

:popcorn:

[2BNTV]

Painting with a broad brush never seems to get the job done right.

I'm sure Talbot's did their marketing research and I am certain, a big chain store will have the resources to succeed.

Some people talk like a 20 minute drive is the the other side of the world. :D People go where they need to go, to get what they need. :smiley:

BTW - I go to MVP and am 15 years older than my friends in their 50's, In terms of exercise, I run circles around them. :smiley:

[spring_chicken]

Not only is it unseemly, I've always found that the ones who love to talk about how much they have are usually the ones who are lying through their teeth.

That is sure a tabloidy title on this thread.

I don't think it is right.

Major retail chains know how to do their homework. Ever noticed how stores of the same type are found close to each other? Foot traffic. Chicos and Talbots together will increase foot traffic for both I bet.

Also, don't ever kid yourself about who has how much when it comes to money. Where I come from, people never talk about how much money they have. It is considered to be unseemly to do so. (That's the truth, but actually and also, I just wanted to use that word 'unseemly' because I like it.)

(I just wish they would add Ann Taylor because I can sometimes wear a size smaller there and they have skinny-fying mirrors.)

Boomer

[Chatbrat]

Its not a problem, I'm an investor & I care about the decisions that affect my investments--the demo-person may have have looked @ Tv as a total entity--its a major fop--to not look at the closer demo's--that are a real aspect of growth. the store will be gone in 5 years !!!

[debow]

Fixed income doesn't mean low income.

Agree. I read recently that the "average" annual income of the Village resident is well over $95,000.

[Boomer]

Although Talbots was once publicly traded, it no longer is. A few years ago, they made a mess of things when they decided to chase younger women, thus alienating their core customer base of more mature women.

And like that song from The Music Man says,"You Gotta Know The Territory" -- and so Talbots stock is no more.

Talbots was acquired in 2012 by Sycamore Partners, a private equity firm.

Sycamore Partners recently acquired Belk.

Hey.....Belk is in SS, too. Not on the square but not far away. Something tells me this private equity firm is savvy enough to understand location, location, location......and demographics. (Talbots seems to have gotten over their thing for younger women.)

Classic Boomer

[Jayhawk]

Its not a problem, I'm an investor & I care about the decisions that affect my investments--the demo-person may have have looked @ Tv as a total entity--its a major fop--to not look at the closer demo's--that are a real aspect of growth. the store will be gone in 5 years !!!

Investor? Really?

Boomer says no.

[Chatbrat]

They looked @ the Villages as a total entity, they didn't focus, and as employees--its other peoples $$$--big mistake

It will fail,

[capecoralbill]

I live near SS, I used to go to Brownwood, but it is so dead there, also i dont like the Country / farm / redneck theme. And one of my favorite restaurants Las Tappas has run amuck. I went south of 466a today, looks like levittown from the 1950s, anybody care about landscaping and trees? Awful.

[ColdNoMore]

In general I like to see businesses be successful, but as long as I am not financially associated with them...it doesn't really matter or affect me.

Since they are not publicly traded, why would anyone really care what happens with or to them? :confused:

[Bogie Shooter]

i live near ss, i used to go to brownwood, but it is so dead there, also i dont like the country / farm / redneck theme. And one of my favorite restaurants las tappas has run amuck. I went south of 466a today, looks like levittown from the 1950s, anybody care about landscaping and trees? Awful.

wow!

[graciegirl]

No comparison between Chico's & Talbots

I am so surprised. All along I thought you were a male.

[spring_chicken]

Investor? Really?

Boomer says no.

Opps! LMAO.

[Mallory]

"If you build it, they will come."

We live in the middle. Have no problem going to Brownwood to shop at Tommy Bahama nor do we have a problem going to Spanish Springs to shop at Chico's.

Won't have a problem going to Talbot's. It's a lot closer than the drive to Traverse City.

[justjim]

My wife shops Chico's both in The Villages and in Central Illinois. I know Chico's have size 0 and 00 sizes and maybe she likes the way they size their clothes. She said that she shopped Talbots when she was a working woman.

ColdWater Creek didn't make it in Sumter Landing. We live in the unlandscaped area of The Villages south of 466A but shop along the 441 corridor, S.S., Sumter Landing, Brownwood, Ocala and Orlando.

As far as Spanish Springs shoppers they come from, Leesburg, Tavares, Eustis, Mt. Dora and retirement communities up and down the US 441 Corridor. Spanish Springs has a "big draw" besides residents of The Villages.

I suppose Talbots did their marketing due diligence and it shows one of their stores fits in Spanish Springs. I wouldn't bet against them.

[Nucky]

///// Happy Thanksgiving.


It would have just gotten erased anyway, what's the use.

[asianthree]

I rarely brick and mortar shop. Doesn't matter where the shop is at the squares. I already bought it online

[JoMar]

I'm in the South and I won't shop there.

:popcorn:

Really....I assume fear of getting lost since it really isn't that far.

[katyk]

Actually, I live near Spanish Springs and I am really excited about Talbots opening there. Their clothes are timeless and classic. Chicos is a little too fussy for me.
At any rate, if you really like a store's clothing you will travel to it and if Talbots were in Lake Sumter or Brownwood, I would go there. I know there is a younger group that have moved to Brownwood but hey, I am in my 70's and shop at Talbots online so I am sure there are more like me.

[Utrix53]

Agree!!

[Spikearoni]

I am so surprised. All along I thought you were a male.

:agree: Most women I know don't boast that much about their cars, the wine they drink, or complain so often about golf carts. You learn something new every day.

[skip0358]

Seems I heard the same thing when WOB announced they were opening here !

[Madelaine Amee]

I cannot wait for Talbot's to open. No, I no longer need business clothing, but I certainly need good looking casual wear and formal gowns for cruising and traveling. I love the stores in SL but there is nothing like a Talbot's. I also like the fact that I can look on line at their clothing and then go try it on at the store. I can buy on line and return to store if I have to, it's all good from my perspective. Anything that improves TV for future investors is all good.

I am also pleased to see SS being "re-born". When we moved here SS was the center of The Village Universe, it was absolutely beautiful. I was sorry to see it being allowed to deteriorate, but this younger generation of the Morse family seem to be bringing it back to its former glory.

I shop Sumter Landing and Spanish Springs and I have to admit to never, ever, going to Brownwood. I went a couple of times to the Saturday Farmer's Market, but that got old pretty quickly.

Just yesterday I went to the Library on 466A and that will be the last time. What a zoo. 466A is now a speedway.

[Wandatime]

I live near Brownwood, am in my fifties, live on a semi-fixed income, and will very happily drive to the grand opening of Talbot's in Spanish Springs. I LOVE Talbot's -- when I lived in Richmond I drove close to an hour to shop there! Stylish clothes for classy women at whatever age.

[EnglishJW]

(I just wish they would add Ann Taylor because I can sometimes wear a size smaller there and they have skinny-fying mirrors.)

Boomer

Where can I get one of these mirrors?

On a more serious note, we live in Hillsborough and travel up to the SS area often to shop since the options in Brownwood are still relatively meager. For now, that appears to be the place for almost any store to prefer.

[Topspinmo]

Its not a problem, I'm an investor & I care about the decisions that affect my investments--the demo-person may have have looked @ Tv as a total entity--its a major fop--to not look at the closer demo's--that are a real aspect of growth. the store will be gone in 5 years !!!


What do you invest in? Expensive over priced cloths that I can buy at Good Will for $4. Lots of pricey stores don't make. Good example is Macy's closing stores left and right. Lots of stores around here will be gone in Five years.

[NYGUY]

....Lots of stores around here will be gone in Five years.

So will lots of people around here.:22yikes:

[ColdNoMore]

So will lots of people around here.:22yikes:

In my very first round of golf here as a renter, I was put with a rather large group with a generic nickname for animals...that plays regularly together.

We heard a siren on one of the holes and one of the guys smiled and said... "another tee time opening at Palmer."

It took a minute for that to sink in and while I recognized it as an attempt at 'gallows humor'...I personally didn't find it amusing. :ohdear:

[NYGUY]

In my very first round of golf here as a renter, I was put with a rather large group with a generic nickname for animals...that plays regularly together.

We heard a siren on one of the holes and one of the guys smiled and said... "another tee time opening at Palmer."

It took a minute for that to sink in and while I recognized it as an attempt at 'gallows humor'...I personally didn't find it amusing. :ohdear:

LOL....we say that all the time!!

[Henryk]

... (That's the truth, but actually and also, I just wanted to use that word 'unseemly' because I like it.)...
Boomer
Unseemly! :mademyday:

[Two Bills]

Unseemly.....'tis an exemplary word. I just love exemplary it is so.........exemplary!

[outlaw]

I like Chico's variety platter.

[ColdNoMore]

Mmmm...tacos.

[ColdNoMore]

Also, don't ever kid yourself about who has how much when it comes to money.

Where I come from, people never talk about how much money they have.

It is considered to be unseemly to do so.

:agree:


I like your use of "unseemly"...it is quite befitting. :D