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Warren Kiefer
11-23-2016, 08:24 PM
Trump is indicating he will appoint to cabinet positions, Ben Carson, Rudy Guilani, Nikki Haley, Steve Bannon, Rence P., "NOW WHAT COULD EVER GO WRONG HERE" ??

We cannot discover any business conflicts Trump might have because he has continued his refusal to disclose his taxes. I now believe only a fool would ever expect Trump to come forth with his taxes.

Thump will refuse his $400,000 salary, GREAT !!! He should do this , he doesn't pay any taxes that could go toward this salary anyway.

rjm1cc
11-23-2016, 09:17 PM
I think a lot of people do not understand what a tax return says when they are asking to see his. Do you list your home on your tax return, do you list stock you own, do you list your cars? You will not see his assets. You should look at the financial documents he had to file to run for president to get the info you want.
I assume his tax return is large enough that it is audited every year. Thus I do not think you will find out that he did anything outside of the law from looking at the tax returns.
I think it is easy to identify most of his assets since they have his name on them.

jimbo2012
11-23-2016, 09:59 PM
Guess what, at this point what difference does it make!!!

MSM isn't talking about it any more

Give it up you will not see them, worry about the future


Wall street 19,000 what's does that tell you?
They have confidence in the Trump admin

MDLNB
11-24-2016, 07:43 AM
Guess what, at this point what difference does it make!!!

MSM isn't talking about it any more

Give it up you will not see them, worry about the future


Wall street 19,000 what's does that tell you?
They have confidence in the Trump admin

That must be a slap in the face to the left. Positive things are happening in just one week that 8 years of Obama couldn't accomplish. Liberals are going to be real mad when people start going back to work and the crime rate starts dropping. Oh well, the only cure for petulance is a swift slap down.

Chi-Town
11-24-2016, 07:59 AM
Guess what, at this point what difference does it make!!!

MSM isn't talking about it any more

Give it up you will not see them, worry about the future


Wall street 19,000 what's does that tell you?
They have confidence in the Trump admin

Wall Street went from 6,000 to 18,000 during the Obama administration. What did that tell you?



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MDLNB
11-24-2016, 08:06 AM
Wall Street went from 6,000 to 18,000 during the Obama administration. What did that tell you?



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Sorry dude, but Trump's is bigger than Obama's....:D

billethkid
11-24-2016, 08:36 AM
Wall Street went from 6,000 to 18,000 during the Obama administration. What did that tell you?



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That wall streets performance has nothing to do with who sits in the WH.....obviously!!

billethkid
11-24-2016, 08:38 AM
Trump is indicating he will appoint to cabinet positions, Ben Carson, Rudy Guilani, Nikki Haley, Steve Bannon, Rence P., "NOW WHAT COULD EVER GO WRONG HERE" ??

We cannot discover any business conflicts Trump might have because he has continued his refusal to disclose his taxes. I now believe only a fool would ever expect Trump to come forth with his taxes.

Thump will refuse his $400,000 salary, GREAT !!! He should do this , he doesn't pay any taxes that could go toward this salary anyway.

Incoherent rambling.?!
Is there a point somewhere in the above? (that matters)

Allegiance
11-24-2016, 09:24 AM
Trump is indicating he will appoint to cabinet positions, Ben Carson, Rudy Guilani, Nikki Haley, Steve Bannon, Rence P., "NOW WHAT COULD EVER GO WRONG HERE" ??

We cannot discover any business conflicts Trump might have because he has continued his refusal to disclose his taxes. I now believe only a fool would ever expect Trump to come forth with his taxes.

Thump will refuse his $400,000 salary, GREAT !!! He should do this , he doesn't pay any taxes that could go toward this salary anyway.

...

autumnspring
11-24-2016, 10:10 AM
Guess what, at this point what difference does it make!!!

MSM isn't talking about it any more

Give it up you will not see them, worry about the future


Wall street 19,000 what's does that tell you?
They have confidence in the Trump admin

A mass of people-voters-want simple answers to complex questions. Frankly, if the candidates actuall tried to explain their point in detail most voters would not understand the issue and most voters do not have the attention span to listen to it.

ACCORDING TO ME-Hillary went after the BLACK VOTE. Blacks are now 13% of the population. Obama got 98% of the black vote and Hillary got, if I recall 92% of the black vote. Here in Florida, Hillary went to speak with the TREVON MARTIN ASSOCIATION. Martin's own mother said he was no good before she was shut up by such race baiters as SHARPTON. Hillary, if your were to read about her is a SOCIALIST and has been all her life-at least from her college years. Obviously, Hillary also cultivated the socialist LIBERAL vote. HILLARYS SOLUTION TO IT ALL IS TAX THE RICH AND SHE DEFINES THE RICH AS THE TOP 1%. Since, 99% of the people are not in the top 1% this chant works great. THE FACTS ARE-if you simply take everything the top 1% have IT WOULD NOT PAY THE TEN TRILLION DOLLARS OBAMA ADDED TO THE NATIONAL DEBT.
For that matter, wealthy people are far more mobile then poor people are. Mexico welcomes our wealthy people.
Mexico will gladly trade as many poor people as we wish for ever wealthy American that relocates to Mexico.
The democrats have made hard work and success into being evil, the democrats have fostered the you o meeeeee gimmmeeeee view of our country, the democrats have fostered blaming others for your failures.
The LIBERAL ACCUSATION placed on anyone who did not vote for OBAMA and or did not vote for HILLARY is racist.
They have already decided you are guilty. It is simply impossible to prove you are not. TO BE HONEST-I DON'T NOT CARE TO EVEN TRY.

On the other side is TRUMP. His simple chant is MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN. Another catchy point-TILL YOU THINK ABOUT IT. When, will we know AMERICA IS GREAT AGAIN.

I SADLY WONDER ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THINK-eight years ago the LIBERALS installed an unknown unqualified person into the white house. THERE WERE NO ANTI OBAMA RIOTS. Trump has won the presidency. WE HAVE RIOTS. IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT SOROS WHO IS NOT EVEN AN AMERICAN CITIZEN IS SENDING CHECKS TO RIOTERS. ALL AMERICANS SHOULD COME OUT AGAINST THIS BUT THE LIBERALS THINK THIS CRAP IS JUSTIFIED.
AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY, THE LIBERALS HAVE LAUNCHED THE RACIST CHARGE NOT ONLY ON TRUMP BUT ON ALL THOSE WHO VOTED FOR HIM.

PERHAPS A GOOD START IS FOR THE LIBERALS TO REALIZE THAT STUFF LIKE BLACK LIVES MATTER IS RACIST. IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT THOUGH YOU LIBERAL GLASSES THEN SAY THERE IS A GROUP WHITE LIVES MATTER-DO YOU SEE THAT AS RACIST? NOW PERHAPS, YOU HAVE PULLED BACK YOUR PREJUDICE AND CAN SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. AMERICAN LIVES MATTER TO ME.

jimbo2012
11-24-2016, 10:20 AM
You make many good posts.

But can you cool it on the CAPS, do you know they are harder to read, fact.

Try bold to emphasis your key points

:thumbup:

autumnspring
11-24-2016, 10:52 AM
Guess what, at this point what difference does it make!!!

MSM isn't talking about it any more

Give it up you will not see them, worry about the future


Wall street 19,000 what's does that tell you?
They have confidence in the Trump admin

Re: stock market at 19000
We hear the LIBERALS BITCH that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
This is actually a world wide situation. IN MY VIEW, the reason is the stock market. I for one have a far higher percentage of my money in the stock market compared to TRADITIONAL ADVICE and frankly I've done well. The reason is GOVERNMENT MANIPULATION OF OUR WHOLE ECONOMIC SYSTEM. Long term the rate on a ten year treasury is 2% over the rate of inflation. Thus, our money manipulators-THE FED-are trying to get inflation to 2%.
THUS, a ten year treasury should pay 4%. The yield on a ten year treasury is 1.5% if you buy them IT IS A SURE LOSS. Not only do the ten year treasury pay a poor 1.5% BUT, YOU WILL PAY YOUR FULL INCOME TAX RATE ON THAT 1.5%.
Hillary's tax plan, she wanted you to have to hold a stock for SIX YEARS for it to qualify for LONG TERM GAINS. Though she did not say it I would expect here to go after the fact that stock dividends are taxed at the same rate as long term capital gains-15% max. On bonds you would pay your normal income tax rate.

FOR THE LIBERALS PARROTING THE DEMOCRATIC CHANT TAX THE RICH-BAD NEWS-IF YOU LIVE IN THE VILLAGES YOU ARE THE RICH.

janmcn
11-24-2016, 11:09 AM
Guess what, at this point what difference does it make!!!

MSM isn't talking about it any more

Give it up you will not see them, worry about the future


Wall street 19,000 what's does that tell you?
They have confidence in the Trump admin


Sorry Charlie, the 19,000 goes on Obama's side of the ledger. Trump's etch-a-sketch starts on Jan 20, at 1201 to be exact. Keep an eye on the deficit from that date forward since none of the things Trump is proposing are paid for.

jimbo2012
11-24-2016, 11:10 AM
From a Wall street expert, doesn't matter who's siting in the oval office.

Try Google

Chi-Town
11-24-2016, 11:11 AM
You make many good posts.

But can you cool it on the CAPS, do you know they are harder to read, fact.

Try bold to emphasis your key points

[emoji106]
She has the Mark Levin approach to discussions. I say let her rant.


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billethkid
11-24-2016, 12:05 PM
Sorry Charlie, the 19,000 goes on Obama's side of the ledger. Trump's etch-a-sketch starts on Jan 20, at 1201 to be exact. Keep an eye on the deficit from that date forward since none of the things Trump is proposing are paid for.

As does the sun coming up in the morning......woo-hooo!!!

Warren Kiefer
11-24-2016, 12:08 PM
I think a lot of people do not understand what a tax return says when they are asking to see his. Do you list your home on your tax return, do you list stock you own, do you list your cars? You will not see his assets. You should look at the financial documents he had to file to run for president to get the info you want.
I assume his tax return is large enough that it is audited every year. Thus I do not think you will find out that he did anything outside of the law from looking at the tax returns.
I think it is easy to identify most of his assets since they have his name on them.

First off, the IRS has no restrictions of disclosing tax forms. Trump won't even provide returns for any past years. The disclosure forms fall very short of giving any information. THIS IS NOW KNOW AS A FACT !!! Trump bought a bankrupt golf course for 3.5 million, put 50 million in upgrades. HE LISTED THE PROPERTY FOR PROPERTY TAXES AS VALUED AT 1.5 MILLION, The lie saved him bundles in property taxes. Only a fool would accept that Trump's taxes are being kept from us because of a supposed audit.

Warren Kiefer
11-24-2016, 12:10 PM
That must be a slap in the face to the left. Positive things are happening in just one week that 8 years of Obama couldn't accomplish. Liberals are going to be real mad when people start going back to work and the crime rate starts dropping. Oh well, the only cure for petulance is a swift slap down.

Are you for real or just a preprogrammed robot ??

Warren Kiefer
11-24-2016, 12:13 PM
Incoherent rambling.?!
Is there a point somewhere in the above? (that matters)

It should bother even a Republican like you that 2.5 million more voters voted for Clinton than voted for Trump.

jimbo2012
11-24-2016, 12:18 PM
It would if they were not dead or illegals

rubicon
11-24-2016, 12:48 PM
Wall Street went from 6,000 to 18,000 during the Obama administration. What did that tell you?



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Dear Guest: Obama via the FED was responsible for the nominal increase in the Dow Jones Average. Actually until Trump's election all the increase in the Dow was a sugar high for the hedge fund guys, you know that 1% the progressives always complain about .

Look at the recent surge of real growth in the market along the lines of transportation...its the real deal. Also notice that small stocks have for the first time hit record level highs. This all points to investors who have confidence Trump will reverse Obama's anti-gowth, anti-business policies. small stocks mean new businesses and /or existing expanding. And increase and expanding of small businesses mean real job growth

Personal Best Regards:

Allegiance
11-24-2016, 12:52 PM
America is finally on a path to be great again.

rubicon
11-24-2016, 12:59 PM
Trump is indicating he will appoint to cabinet positions, Ben Carson, Rudy Guilani, Nikki Haley, Steve Bannon, Rence P., "NOW WHAT COULD EVER GO WRONG HERE" ??

We cannot discover any business conflicts Trump might have because he has continued his refusal to disclose his taxes. I now believe only a fool would ever expect Trump to come forth with his taxes.

Thump will refuse his $400,000 salary, GREAT !!! He should do this , he doesn't pay any taxes that could go toward this salary anyway.

1. Trump's picks... Never try to manage from beneath

2. Disclosure of taxes...Again if there were anything even remotely damaging the progressives would have sussed it out and headlined it in every news outlet across the world in the largest font allowable

3. You dismiss out of hand Trump's gesture of foregoing his salary and offering to charity. Yet the gentleman occupying the office at present betrays his true character by providing a $160,000 annual salary to his mother-in-law for watching his kids. Can you say CORRUPTION.

Progressive need to spend their valuable time cleaning up their own party instead of inventing false narratives about GOP picks

Personal Best Regards:

jimbo2012
11-24-2016, 01:11 PM
providing a $160,000 annual salary to his mother-in-law for watching his kids. Can you say CORRUPTION.



call it 160,000 X 8 = $1,280,000

MDLNB
11-24-2016, 01:31 PM
It should bother even a Republican like you that 2.5 million more voters voted for Clinton than voted for Trump.

And yet, she still LOST! :BigApplause:

janmcn
11-24-2016, 01:50 PM
1. Trump's picks... Never try to manage from beneath

2. Disclosure of taxes...Again if there were anything even remotely damaging the progressives would have sussed it out and headlined it in every news outlet across the world in the largest font allowable

3. You dismiss out of hand Trump's gesture of foregoing his salary and offering to charity. Yet the gentleman occupying the office at present betrays his true character by providing a $160,000 annual salary to his mother-in-law for watching his kids. Can you say CORRUPTION.

Progressive need to spend their valuable time cleaning up their own party instead of inventing false narratives about GOP picks

Personal Best Regards:

Speaking of false narratives, how many times are you going to post the bogus story about the babysitter? How about a real link to a true story?

billethkid
11-24-2016, 02:16 PM
It should bother even a Republican like you that 2.5 million more voters voted for Clinton than voted for Trump.

Not at all...that is not what wins the game!!

janmcn
11-24-2016, 02:25 PM
Trump is indicating he will appoint to cabinet positions, Ben Carson, Rudy Guilani, Nikki Haley, Steve Bannon, Rence P., "NOW WHAT COULD EVER GO WRONG HERE" ??

We cannot discover any business conflicts Trump might have because he has continued his refusal to disclose his taxes. I now believe only a fool would ever expect Trump to come forth with his taxes.

Thump will refuse his $400,000 salary, GREAT !!! He should do this , he doesn't pay any taxes that could go toward this salary anyway.


The only requirement to get on the Trump team is to be old, fat, white, a serial adulterer, and on your third wife.

Polar Bear
11-24-2016, 02:37 PM
The only requirement to get on the Trump team is to be old, fat, white, a serial adulterer, and on your third wife.

Bitter much?

billethkid
11-24-2016, 04:31 PM
The only requirement to get on the Trump team is to be old, fat, white, a serial adulterer, and on your third wife.

I little too much bigot sauce of one kind or another today!!

With a subtle (:22yikes:) hint of feminine bias.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-24-2016, 05:53 PM
If Hillary won, the OP and others like him would be begging us to come together behind our new president. Instead, we're going to see posts like this. Both sides need to calm down and stop it.

rubicon
11-24-2016, 06:06 PM
,Speaking of false narratives, how many times are you going to post the bogus story about the babysitter? How about a real link to a true story?

Lead show me where the reported $160,000 annual pension for his mother-in-law is not a true story. Well it might be difficult for you because the main street media will bury a story like this so deep it will take the type of digging archeologist conduct on their search for ancient cities

Personal Best Regards:

ColdNoMore
11-24-2016, 08:03 PM
Speaking of false narratives, how many times are you going to post the bogus story about the babysitter? How about a real link to a true story?

She can't.

It is but one of hundreds of false stories, put out by lying media sources...such as Trump's good friend Bannon's. :ohdear:

Rockyrd
11-24-2016, 08:23 PM
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Lead show me where the reported $160,000 annual pension for his mother-in-law is not a true story. Well it might be difficult for you because the main street media will bury a story like this so deep it will take the type of digging archeologist conduct on their search for ancient cities

Personal Best Regards:

Good golly, you people just love the National Enquirer, Breitbart world.

I posted this once before in response to this same inane nonsense.

Get involved in the real world

First Grandma Marian Robinson to Receive Lifetime $160K Government Pension : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/marian-robinson-pension/)

This story came from the Boston Tribune, a KNOWN FALSE NEWS SITE, oft times linked from Breitbart.

Those of you who strut on here, talk down to others, and act so informed actually are quite humorous.

There are more FAKE news sites linked, if there is any link supplied, than anything factual and you want people to take you seriously.

Rockyrd
11-24-2016, 08:47 PM
"Facebook fake-news writer: ‘I think Donald Trump is in the White House because of me’"

"....Horner has found the fake-news ecosystem growing more crowded, more political and vastly more influential: In March, Donald Trump’s son Eric and his then-campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, even tweeted links to one of Horner’s faux-articles. His stories have also appeared as news on Google."

Facebook fake-news writer: ‘I think Donald Trump is in the White House because of me’ - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/17/facebook-fake-news-writer-i-think-donald-trump-is-in-the-white-house-because-of-me/)

"“This is the news of the millennium!” said the story on WorldPoliticus.com. Citing unnamed FBI sources, it claimed Hillary Clinton will be indicted in 2017 for crimes related to her email scandal.
“Your Prayers Have Been Answered,” declared the headline.
For Trump supporters, that certainly seemed to be the case. They helped the baseless story generate over 140,000 shares, reactions, and comments on Facebook.
Meanwhile, roughly 6,000 miles away in a small town in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, a young man watched as money began trickling into his Google AdSense account.
Over the past year, the Macedonian town of Veles (population 45,000) has experienced a digital gold rush as locals launched at least 140 US politics websites. These sites have American-sounding domain names such as WorldPoliticus.com, TrumpVision365.com, USConservativeToday.com, DonaldTrumpNews.co, and USADailyPolitics.com. They almost all publish aggressively pro-Trump content aimed at conservatives and Trump supporters in the US."

How Teens In The Balkans Are Duping Trump Supporters With Fake News - BuzzFeed News (https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo?utm_term=.pgOyo3ENz#.rqMdGJ3z0)

Did fake news help elect Donald Trump? - Video - Business News (http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2016/11/19/stelter-fake-news-pkg.cnnmoney/)

"“ Nobody fact-checks anything anymore–I mean, that’s how Trump got elected,” explained Paul Horner, who claims to make $10,000 per month peddling fake news, to the Washington Post. ”He just said whatever he wanted, and people believed everything, and when the things he said turned out not to be true, people didn’t care because they’d already accepted it. It’s real scary. I’ve never seen anything like it.”"

Forbes Welcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2016/11/17/donald-trump-fake-news-and-the-celebrity-industrial-complex/#55e8c55e7b47)

MDLNB
11-25-2016, 06:05 AM
Trump won and Hillary becomes just another dark spot in America's history. Thank goodness there were enough folks with enough common sense in America to stop her from continuing the ruin of America that this administration has worked so hard to accomplish. I bet Hillary is more upset at failing George Soros than from losing the election. Maybe Hillary will become one of the many casualties that have added up in the Clinton dynasty.

jimbo2012
11-25-2016, 06:26 AM
Add to that the end of the Bush dynasty.

Rockyrd
11-25-2016, 07:03 AM
Pretty amazing...

The last two posts actually commented on FAKE news imbedded in a post mocking FAKE news.

Talk about not getting the point in anyway at all.

This is why these posters have ZERO credibility, and are as they say "for amusement only"

ColdNoMore
11-25-2016, 07:12 AM
Pretty amazing...

The last two posts actually commented on FAKE news imbedded in a post mocking FAKE news.

Talk about not getting the point in anyway at all.

This is why these posters have ZERO credibility, and are as they say "for amusement only"

IKR? :oops:

But hey, they are extremely amusing (albeit in a pathetic and sad way), so watching the same things coming from them for the next few years...at least provides the nongullible with their daily mirth. :thumbup:

janmcn
11-25-2016, 11:36 AM
1. Trump's picks... Never try to manage from beneath

2. Disclosure of taxes...Again if there were anything even remotely damaging the progressives would have sussed it out and headlined it in every news outlet across the world in the largest font allowable

3. You dismiss out of hand Trump's gesture of foregoing his salary and offering to charity. Yet the gentleman occupying the office at present betrays his true character by providing a $160,000 annual salary to his mother-in-law for watching his kids. Can you say CORRUPTION.

Progressive need to spend their valuable time cleaning up their own party instead of inventing false narratives about GOP picks

Personal Best Regards:

Every time you post the bogus mother-in-law story, it changes. Sometimes the president pays it and sometimes it is a pension.

What difference would it make to anybody if Obama paid his m-I-l for babysitting? Where is the illegality?

However, if he paid her $160,000 per year don't you think he would take that as a tax deduction as it is a substantial sum? Nowhere on the Obama's tax returns (dating back to his time in the IL senate) is there a child care deduction of this size. Check it out. The Obama's tax returns are on-line for the past 30 years.

If you are contending, the $160,000 bogus amount was paid by taxpayers, remember it is the house of representative (currently in GOP hands) that controls the purse strings, and this includes all expenses related to the White House.

graciegirl
11-25-2016, 11:47 AM
Trump is indicating he will appoint to cabinet positions, Ben Carson, Rudy Guilani, Nikki Haley, Steve Bannon, Rence P., "NOW WHAT COULD EVER GO WRONG HERE" ??

We cannot discover any business conflicts Trump might have because he has continued his refusal to disclose his taxes. I now believe only a fool would ever expect Trump to come forth with his taxes.

Thump will refuse his $400,000 salary, GREAT !!! He should do this , he doesn't pay any taxes that could go toward this salary anyway.


Do YOU use legal tax exclusions? Many of us do. Very few give generously to the Federal Government who spend our money foolishly. Most of us legally pay our taxes. Proud to support our country, but we are NOT stupid.

Whoever you are, you aren't able to see the big picture. Probably equate donating to charity with goodness and Godliness...whoops forgot, probably aren't a fan of religion. How did you get this old and still shut out reasonable thought??

Oh wait. I see this is Warren. This is me, Grace.

Warren Kiefer
11-25-2016, 12:13 PM
1. Trump's picks... Never try to manage from beneath

2. Disclosure of taxes...Again if there were anything even remotely damaging the progressives would have sussed it out and headlined it in every news outlet across the world in the largest font allowable

3. You dismiss out of hand Trump's gesture of foregoing his salary and offering to charity. Yet the gentleman occupying the office at present betrays his true character by providing a $160,000 annual salary to his mother-in-law for watching his kids. Can you say CORRUPTION.

Progressive need to spend their valuable time cleaning up their own party instead of inventing false narratives about GOP picks

Personal Best Regards:

You must stop getting your facts from bathroom walls. The babysitter story is as bogus as a diploma from Trump University.

Warren Kiefer
11-25-2016, 12:18 PM
Do YOU use legal tax exclusions? Many of us do. Very few give generously to the Federal Government who spend our money foolishly. Most of us legally pay our taxes. Proud to support our country, but we are NOT stupid.

Whoever you are, you aren't able to see the big picture. Probably equate donating to charity with goodness and Godliness...whoops forgot, probably aren't a fan of religion. How did you get this old and still shut out reasonable thought??

Oh wait. I see this is Warren. This is me, Grace.

By trying to not listen to fools. A man who will invest 53 million in a piece of property and declare the property's value at only 1.5 million for property taxes will do almost anything. All Trump would has to do is disclose his tax forms so we can get some answers.

Rockyrd
11-25-2016, 12:19 PM
Do YOU use legal tax exclusions? Many of us do. Very few give generously to the Federal Government who spend our money foolishly. Most of us legally pay our taxes. Proud to support our country, but we are NOT stupid.

Whoever you are, you aren't able to see the big picture. Probably equate donating to charity with goodness and Godliness...whoops forgot, probably aren't a fan of religion. How did you get this old and still shut out reasonable thought??

Oh wait. I see this is Warren. This is me, Grace.

I think you are simply readin things that allow you to bring out the chest thumpers talking points.

Actually, how much taxes he pays is irrelevant, and people keep saying that, but you cheat thumpers refuse to even acknowledge.

The issue is simply, to whom he owes money, how much and most important, IN WHAT COUNTRY.

The recent news, if youball read REAL news is about Deusche Bank, one of the largest debtors of his PERSONALLY, under investigation by the SEC for selling junk to Americans as happened in our last recession. Big deal and knowing he has business dealings, or at min, has had with terrorism supporters, non friendly countries (like Iran) is important.

If and when he blows up the Iran deal (and according to most, make us unsafe) is HE personally Benefiting ?

Not how much he pays...appears he has paid nothing for years, but as President and in charge of foreign affairs, this is important.

The immediate response by his followers is how much he paid...NOT the most important.

Warren Kiefer
11-25-2016, 12:21 PM
Not at all...that is not what wins the game!!

Trump himself shouted loud and clear that the Electoral College was a rigged system. Now he thinks it is just fine !!

Don Baldwin
11-25-2016, 12:59 PM
Trump himself shouted loud and clear that the Electoral College was a rigged system. Now he thinks it is just fine !!

It IS a rigged system, it still gives more votes to the big population states. CA has 55 votes, the bottom 15 states together don't have that many votes.

To be really fair...each state gets one vote. The state vote being determined by an EC type system too...each county gets one vote and the most counties by number, wins the state. This way cities and rural areas get an equal say. Also, there's no "Elector" who can throw the vote. The state vote goes to the candidate. Whomever got 26 states would win.

Do you think we'd have a different government then?

MDLNB
11-25-2016, 02:10 PM
Trump himself shouted loud and clear that the Electoral College was a rigged system. Now he thinks it is just fine !!

AND?????

SO????

Hillary lost, according to the Constitution. If you don't like it then............I guess you just don't like it. Next time, perhaps you socialists will know how to work harder on selecting an electible candidate. One that does not have to cheat in the primary. One that is not too lazy to campaign for herself instead of having everyone else do it for her. One that will talk to the press. Hillary lost because she was incompetent. And the socialist party lost because they did not know how to convince ADULTS of their ideology. Any one of the 17 GOP candidates could have beat Hillary. Heck, the media laughed and said Trump was the worst chance of the 17 to beat her.

Even our local liberals on here laughed and said they changed parties so that they could vote for Trump in the Primary because they insisted he had no chance of beating Hillary. And now they are no longer laughing. :cryin2:

janmcn
11-25-2016, 02:35 PM
AND?????

SO????

Hillary lost, according to the Constitution. If you don't like it then............I guess you just don't like it. Next time, perhaps you socialists will know how to work harder on selecting an electible candidate. One that does not have to cheat in the primary. One that is not too lazy to campaign for herself instead of having everyone else do it for her. One that will talk to the press. Hillary lost because she was incompetent. And the socialist party lost because they did not know how to convince ADULTS of their ideology. Any one of the 17 GOP candidates could have beat Hillary. Heck, the media laughed and said Trump was the worst chance of the 17 to beat her.

Even our local liberals on here laughed and said they changed parties so that they could vote for Trump in the Primary because they insisted he had no chance of beating Hillary. And now they are no longer laughing. :cryin2:


It is important to let the rest of the world know that Trump won the election with 60 million votes out of 200 million registered voters. It just goes to show that not all voters are married to their first cousin.

Allegiance
11-25-2016, 03:34 PM
It is important to let the rest of the world know that Trump won the election with 60 million votes out of 200 million registered voters. It just goes to show that not all voters are married to their first cousin.
And soon there will be many less illegal aliens, tell the world to take them back, since you have your great international communication system. ;)

MDLNB
11-25-2016, 03:47 PM
It is important to let the rest of the world know that Trump won the election with 60 million votes out of 200 million registered voters. It just goes to show that not all voters are married to their first cousin.

Why is it important to YOU that the rest of the world knows this information? You do know that normally half to less than half of the eligible voters come out to vote in an election, right? I believe you are being incredibly stupid to think that any other country is even interested, let alone most of America. Only crybabies need some justification for Hillary's pathetic loss. It is not Trump's fault if no one liked or wanted Hillary as president, not even her own party. I sincerely hope that you will seek some form of therapy for your intense depression, while the rest of us enjoy celebrating Trump's victory.

I am surprised that you are not too ashamed and embarrassed for Hillary that you wish to show how few people came out to vote for her. According to you liberals, it was going to be a landslide. What happened, did some democrats wake up suddenly and realize that Hillary was a scumbag crook?

janmcn
11-26-2016, 11:23 AM
It seems the only way to get on the Trump team is to be fired or lose an election.

For example: General Flynn, fired by Obama for his management style.

Mitt Romney, lost election in a landslide to Obama in 2012.

Rudy G, lost in the primary in 2008, did not win one state.

KT McFarland, tried to unseat Hillary Clinton in 2006 NY senate race and lost in primary amid allegations of embellishing her resume.

Team of losers.

MDLNB
11-27-2016, 09:00 AM
It seems the only way to get on the Trump team is to be fired or lose an election.

For example: General Flynn, fired by Obama for his management style.

Mitt Romney, lost election in a landslide to Obama in 2012.

Rudy G, lost in the primary in 2008, did not win one state.

KT McFarland, tried to unseat Hillary Clinton in 2006 NY senate race and lost in primary amid allegations of embellishing her resume.

Team of losers.

He hasn't hired HILLARY yet, and she is a two time LOSER. And being fired by Obama was Obama's cover up for Flynn being better at his job than Obie was at his. Rudy was very successful in NYC, so you just don't want to give him the credit he is due.

But, if it makes you feel just a little bit better about YOUR TEAM losing, then Merry Christmas! :D

banjobob
11-28-2016, 05:10 AM
Wall Street went from 6,000 to 18,000 during the Obama administration. What did that tell you?



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with interest rates at near zero the stock market will always rise noyhing to do with Obama

Don Baldwin
11-28-2016, 05:54 AM
with interest rates at near zero the stock market will always rise noyhing to do with Obama

And WHY are interest rates near zero? So the corrupt government can make the minimum interest payments of $600 billion a year. Raise it 2% and it's a $trillion a year.

THAT is why your CDs went from paying 5% to less than 1%.