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Guest
05-15-2009, 09:13 AM
Nancy Pelosi's press briefing yesterday was all over Fox and Friends as well as Morning Joe this am. It was pathetic to watch. At one point she misplaced the notes she was making reference to, started stammering and looked like she was going to fall apart in the midst of the briefing. She has now accused the CIA of lying to Congress. She will never be able to climb out of the hole she has dug herself into. She has become a severe liability to the President and it will be very interesting how he begins a damage control program.
Guest
05-15-2009, 09:44 AM
Nancy Pelosi's press briefing yesterday was all over Fox and Friends as well as Morning Joe this am. It was pathetic to watch. At one point she misplaced the notes she was making reference to, started stammering and looked like she was going to fall apart in the midst of the briefing. She has now accused the CIA of lying to Congress. She will never be able to climb out of the hole she has dug herself into. She has become a severe liability to the President and it will be very interesting how he begins a damage control program.
Ms. Pelosi is the epitome of the political careerist - over two decades in office, 2 years at a time. She is apparently very popular in her home district, meaning she brings home the bacon and has media control. No matter how this moment regarding her knowledge (or lack thereof) of what happened during a very key committee assignment ends, she's still likely to be re-elected in 2010.
Unless her district wants her out, she will continue to spend more time in DC than CA.
Guest
05-15-2009, 10:07 AM
Ms. Pelosi is the epitome of the political careerist - over two decades in office, 2 years at a time. She is apparently very popular in her home district, meaning she brings home the bacon and has media control. No matter how this moment regarding her knowledge (or lack thereof) of what happened during a very key committee assignment ends, she's still likely to be re-elected in 2010.
Unless her district wants her out, she will continue to spend more time in DC than CA.
But her role as Speaker could be in danger. I guess she's got a lock on the seat until Jan 2011 unless she resigned (VERY DOUBTFUL), but I would expect some definite competition for her and some of her primary lieutenants at that time. I really don't see the media and/or her fellow Democrats demanding her resignation before then. But it is possible that as she is made to look more and more the fool, that she will lose some of her iron-fisted control of the Democrat caucus.
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Guest
05-15-2009, 10:34 AM
But her role as Speaker could be in danger. I guess she's got a lock on the seat until Jan 2011 unless she resigned (VERY DOUBTFUL), but I would expect some definite competition for her and some of her primary lieutenants at that time. I really don't see the media and/or her fellow Democrats demanding her resignation before then. But it is possible that as she is made to look more and more the fool, that she will lose some of her iron-fisted control of the Democrat caucus.
`2 heartbeats away from being President and leader of the free world. We deserve better.
Guest
05-15-2009, 11:56 AM
2 heartbeats away from being President and leader of the free world. We deserve better.
Unfortunately, we don't. We gave power to Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi through our ballots. Their character was apparent to anyone who looked, but character and competence did not matter to the US voter. We got what we asked for.
Guest
05-15-2009, 12:13 PM
2 heartbeats away from being President and leader of the free world. We deserve better.
Like maybe Palin. LOL
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Guest
05-15-2009, 12:20 PM
know their subject and secondly when they lie a lot. They have no credible base point to go from and to, hence they do not know what to say without canned questions and prepared answers.
The epitome of incompetence and self centered positioning.
She couldn't find her backside with a map.
BTK
Guest
05-15-2009, 12:34 PM
Like maybe Palin. LOL
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Yes, maybe someone who had actual executive experience and had demonstrated competence - unlike either Obama or Biden. A person who ran the largest state in the union by total area, total shoreline (more that the lower 48 combined), the greatest diversity of wildlife, etc and did it with a budget surplus. A person who had actually worked for a living rather than being a lifetime politician/community organizer. Sounds like a major step up from Obama/Biden to me.
Guest
05-15-2009, 12:36 PM
yes, maybe someone who had actual executive experience and had demonstrated competence - unlike either obama or biden. A person who ran the largest state in the union by total area, total shoreline (more that the lower 48 combined), the greatest diversity of wildlife, etc and did it with a budget surplus. A person who had actually worked for a living rather than being a lifetime politician/community organizer. Sounds like a major step up from obama/biden to me.
lol
Guest
05-15-2009, 12:39 PM
lol
Like most people who get their political beliefs from SNL.
Guest
05-15-2009, 12:41 PM
Wow Chuckinca - two really witty replies in a row.
Guest
05-15-2009, 12:42 PM
like most people who get their political beliefs from snl.
lol.
Guest
05-15-2009, 01:08 PM
Unfortunately, we don't. We gave power to Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi through our ballots. Their character was apparent to anyone who looked, but character and competence did not matter to the US voter. We got what we asked for.
I didn't get what I asked for.
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
Guest
05-15-2009, 01:11 PM
The problem with the political forum is that when there is a very important issue to discuss we quickly regress into tossing barbs at each other and slip away from the topic of the thread. No matter which side of the political bedpost you hang your robe, if you saw Pelosi in action yesterday you had to feel troubled. The 3rd highest ranking member of our political system essentially has:
a) been caught lying
b) projected blame onto the entire CIA and called them liars.
c) changed her story at least 3 times in a feeble attempt to cover her lies
d) held a press conference, totally unprepared, mixed up her notes and embarrassed herself in front of the world to the degreee that you had to pity her
It doesn't matter where you stand politically.... the entire world is watching this fiasco.... what must they be thinking? That was the purpose of the original post. President Obama now has to decide how to deal with this issue and with The Speaker. I was hoping there would be some discussion on what people thought about how this mess would unfold. Remember, the whole thing started because Pelosi (and others) wanted to boil in oil those responsible for waterboarding and other interrogation techniques that she claimed (wrongly) she did not know were occuring. It is 100% certain by the info presented to date that she knew waterboarding was occurring by Jan 03 at the latest and Sept 02 very likely yet she never raised an iota of protest, challenge or alarm then. Now, she thought she'd make political hay out of this issue in 2009 and it has turned around and bitten her right in the behind.
Guest
05-15-2009, 01:11 PM
Like maybe Palin. LOL
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Palin would have been an improvement over Biden, without a doubt.
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
Guest
05-15-2009, 01:42 PM
She would have been an improvement over Biden, without a doubt.
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
BIDEN
"FACT CHECK: Data belie Biden stimulus anecdotes"
"Capturing the full effect of the stimulus at this early stage is difficult, but the administration has set high bars for success. In championing those successes, however, the White House plays a little loose with the facts."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gII_eXwpVyrwITxM1gouPdCc--RgD985HVI00
PELOSI
"Panetta to CIA employees: We told Pelosi the truth"
"CIA Director Leon Panetta just sent a stern message to his employees defending the agency against Speaker Nancy Pelosi's criticisms.
His message: We didn't mislead Congress; stay focused on your job."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0509/Panetta_to_CIA_employees_We_told_Pelosi_the_truth. html?showall
Guest
05-15-2009, 01:57 PM
The problem with the political forum is that when there is a very important issue to discuss we quickly regress into tossing barbs at each other and slip away from the topic of the thread. No matter which side of the political bedpost you hang your robe, if you saw Pelosi in action yesterday you had to feel troubled. The 3rd highest ranking member of our political system essentially has:
a) been caught lying
b) projected blame onto the entire CIA and called them liars.
c) changed her story at least 3 times in a feeble attempt to cover her lies
d) held a press conference, totally unprepared, mixed up her notes and embarrassed herself in front of the world to the degreee that you had to pity her
It doesn't matter where you stand politically.... the entire world is watching this fiasco.... what must they be thinking? That was the purpose of the original post. President Obama now has to decide how to deal with this issue and with The Speaker. I was hoping there would be some discussion on what people thought about how this mess would unfold. Remember, the whole thing started because Pelosi (and others) wanted to boil in oil those responsible for waterboarding and other interrogation techniques that she claimed (wrongly) she did not know were occuring. It is 100% certain by the info presented to date that she knew waterboarding was occurring by Jan 03 at the latest and Sept 02 very likely yet she never raised an iota of protest, challenge or alarm then. Now, she thought she'd make political hay out of this issue in 2009 and it has turned around and bitten her right in the behind.
So what is going to happen? I fear that the House and possibly Senate will continue with their "Truth Commissions" with the sole intent of keeping the Bush administration in the news as Obama's strawman and smearing them whenever possible. Since the Dems will have absolute control of subpoenas and hearings, there will be no investigation of the Dem side of the house. And of course, only Fox News and a few papers like the WSJ will object.
But we elected 'em.
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Guest
05-15-2009, 04:28 PM
Hopefully, Pelosi will continue to open her mouth in public. Anytime she does, she reveals more and more of herself to America and what kind of person she really is. Like someone else said, she is 3rd in line to run this country and that is beyond scary.
Guest
05-15-2009, 06:46 PM
be in office for way too many more years.
The above commentary is correct, every time she opens her mouth she puts her foot/leg/etc in....like before she became Speaker she was being interviewed out in CA and was asked how she came to a conclusion on an issue....she said it was easy if the Republicans were involved or for it she was against it...as she was called on FOX today...a petty partisan politician of the worst kind. Her own party doesn't like her....maybe they will help derail her train, however, I wouldn't hold my breath...the woman is a disgrace to the American Way.
BTK
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