15 for 15

[Chi-Town]

Actually, this isn't all bad.


15 Trump Flip-Flops in 15 Days - POLITICO Magazine (http://politi.co/2fPzp8h)


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[ColdNoMore]

Actually, this isn't all bad.


15 Trump Flip-Flops in 15 Days - POLITICO Magazine (http://politi.co/2fPzp8h)


Trump only had 'winning' on his mind and was willing to say anything while campaigning.

The fact that a lot of his supporters loved his bigotry/hate/misogyny...only encouraged him more.

The realization of what he has actually won, how much work it is, how many tough decisions have to be made for the entire country and that he can't be lazy about it...is slowly sinking in.

Him now leaning on Obama daily...is totally predictable.

[Polar Bear]

Trump only had 'winning' on his mind and was willing to say anything while campaigning.

The fact that a lot of his supporters loved his bigotry/hate/misogyny...only encouraged him more.

The realization of what he has actually won, how much work it is, how many tough decisions have to be made for the entire country and that he can't be lazy about it...is slowly sinking in.

Him now leaning on Obama daily...is totally predictable.

You having it all so precisely figured out is what is so totally predictable.

[ColdNoMore]

You having it all so precisely figured out is what is so totally predictable.

You whining about this forum and then not being able to resist coming down here...is what is really totally predictable. :1rotfl:

Fvcking hypocrite. :wave:

[Taltarzac725]

Actually, this isn't all bad.


15 Trump Flip-Flops in 15 Days - POLITICO Magazine (http://politi.co/2fPzp8h)


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He is Donald Trump. That is what he is known for-- changing his mind.

[billethkid]

Too much lack of substance on this forum continues to result in less and less cause to stop by much anymore.

[Polar Bear]

You whining about this forum and then not being able to resist coming down here...is what is really totally predictable. :1rotfl:

Fvcking hypocrite. :wave:
You're the only one talking about me not coming down here. I've never said a word about it. It's just your wishful thinking. :rotfl: (Although I do see why more and more people agree with billethkid's sentiment.)

By the way...nice mouth. Of course that language conveyed about as much depth and meaning as anything else you've said...heheh.

[ColdNoMore]

You're the only one talking about me not coming down here. I've never said a word about it. It's just your wishful thinking.
I said you were whining about this forum and are a flaming hypocritic...because you keep coming down here.

I was exactly correct and you're lying and obfuscating...again.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1324252-post1.html
How can a reputable forum such as ToTV, which publishes posting guidelines...using such terms as civility and respect...allow the political forum to continue on as it currently is.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1324295-post5.htmlIf an opinion must be expressed anonymously, to me it's not worth hearing.



(Although I do see why more and more people agree with Billy the kid's sentiment.)

Of course you do. :D

The fact that I call you on your hypocrisy, consistently show you up/wrong and am not shy about doing so...is sure to engender apoplexy.



By the way...nice mouth. Of course that language conveyed about as much depth and meaning as anything else you've said...heheh.

While I don't often use such strong terms, the fact that you're such a fvcking hypocrite...required me to call you a fvcking hypocrite. :1rotfl:

And to add, I posted about Trump and as usual...you then turn it into a personal attack against me.

Soooo, you're a bigger flaming hypocrite...than I even gave you credit for. :ohdear:

And THAT...is quite the accomplishment. :thumbup:

:wave:

[ColdNoMore]

Too much lack of substance on this forum continues to result in less and less cause to stop by much anymore.

Thanks for adding substance. :wave:

[Chi-Town]

The Politico article is so well documented that it is a reminder to all that campaign rhetoric is not promises. But for those who wanted to believe and feasted on every who's going to pay for the wall and lock her up chant, perhaps you should have known better.

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[rubicon]

As a voter recognizing that all politicians make promises they won't or can't keep is factored into my selection of candidate. What is important to me is the overall view of the candidate's likely affect/effect on this nation both domestically and foreign as his term proceeds into the future.

Personal Best Regards:

[Chi-Town]

You're the only one talking about me not coming down here. I've never said a word about it. It's just your wishful thinking. :rotfl: (Although I do see why more and more people agree with billethkid's sentiment.)

By the way...nice mouth. Of course that language conveyed about as much depth and meaning as anything else you've said...heheh.
PoBear, perhaps you should revisit the Political Posts Escaped thread where you more than once decried the forum.

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[Taltarzac725]

As a voter recognizing that all politicians make promises they won't or can't keep is factored into my selection of candidate. What is important to me is the overall view of the candidate's likely affect/effect on this nation both domestically and foreign as his term proceeds into the future.

Personal Best Regards:

I hope Donald Trump cleans up his act soon. He is still acting like a spoiled little brat having twitter tantrums.

[Polar Bear]

I don't deny criticizing the political forum. It's ripe for criticism and I will do it again. But CNM'S claim that I vowed somehow to stay away is totally bogus. He's twisting words to meet his need...as usual.

What I've said is that I want the ability to come to the political forum when I choose to, and not have it forced on me every time I come to ToTV due to the technical issues.

I'll gladly take criticism for the things I say. But criticism based on somebody desperately twisting my words into something I didn't say falls on deaf ears.

[autumnspring]

Trump only had 'winning' on his mind and was willing to say anything while campaigning.

The fact that a lot of his supporters loved his bigotry/hate/misogyny...only encouraged him more.

The realization of what he has actually won, how much work it is, how many tough decisions have to be made for the entire country and that he can't be lazy about it...is slowly sinking in.

Him now leaning on Obama daily...is totally predictable.

It is far smarter to learn from others then to make all the mistakes as if there is NO HISTORY.

I for one do not always need to stick my finger into it WHEN THERE IS A SIGN WET PAINT.

Obamacare-the rest of the industrialized world has about the same life expectancy as we do in the US and their medical cost is roughly half of what we pay. Like most of what our government gets involved in THEY DO NOT FUND IT. Obamacare was funded under SOCIAL SECURITY with no increase of funding. SOCIAL SECURITY is already underfunded because OUR GOVERNMENT did not account for our aging population. To guarantee failure of the system they added prescription coverage without additional funding. This by the way was a bipartisan leadership. BUSH bought votes with unfunded prescription drug coverage. OBAMA bought votes with unfunded health coverage.

THINK-you are MINDLESSLY anti TRUMP. You state he is the choice of the hateful, bigots etc etc etc and yet YOU refuse to applaud TRUMP now showing he is a CENTRIST.
Trump has shown he is more LIBERAL on GAY MARRIAGE on ILLEGAL ALIENS and on RIGHT TO CHOOSE-ABORTION

[Taltarzac725]

It is far smarter to learn from others then to make all the mistakes as if there is NO HISTORY.

I for one do not always need to stick my finger into it WHEN THERE IS A SIGN WET PAINT.

Obamacare-the rest of the industrialized world has about the same life expectancy as we do in the US and their medical cost is roughly half of what we pay. Like most of what our government gets involved in THEY DO NOT FUND IT. Obamacare was funded under SOCIAL SECURITY with no increase of funding. SOCIAL SECURITY is already underfunded because OUR GOVERNMENT did not account for our aging population. To guarantee failure of the system they added prescription coverage without additional funding. This by the way was a bipartisan leadership. BUSH bought votes with unfunded prescription drug coverage. OBAMA bought votes with unfunded health coverage.

THINK-you are MINDLESSLY anti TRUMP. You state he is the choice of the hateful, bigots etc etc etc and yet YOU refuse to applaud TRUMP now showing he is a CENTRIST.
Trump has shown he is more LIBERAL on GAY MARRIAGE on ILLEGAL ALIENS and on RIGHT TO CHOOSE-ABORTION

We have no idea what Donald Trump will do in 2017. I do not think he does either.

[janmcn]

It is far smarter to learn from others then to make all the mistakes as if there is NO HISTORY.

I for one do not always need to stick my finger into it WHEN THERE IS A SIGN WET PAINT.

Obamacare-the rest of the industrialized world has about the same life expectancy as we do in the US and their medical cost is roughly half of what we pay. Like most of what our government gets involved in THEY DO NOT FUND IT. Obamacare was funded under SOCIAL SECURITY with no increase of funding. SOCIAL SECURITY is already underfunded because OUR GOVERNMENT did not account for our aging population. To guarantee failure of the system they added prescription coverage without additional funding. This by the way was a bipartisan leadership. BUSH bought votes with unfunded prescription drug coverage. OBAMA bought votes with unfunded health coverage.

THINK-you are MINDLESSLY anti TRUMP. You state he is the choice of the hateful, bigots etc etc etc and yet YOU refuse to applaud TRUMP now showing he is a CENTRIST.
Trump has shown he is more LIBERAL on GAY MARRIAGE on ILLEGAL ALIENS and on RIGHT TO CHOOSE-ABORTION


Not to worry, the GOP finally (after 50 years of trying) has a clear path to ending Medicare as we know it. They have a president-elect who will sign their bill into law. This is something Rep Paul Ryan has been praying for.

And Trump promised to repeal the ACA, replacing it with a " better plan for less money...something he will do very quickly". Who wouldn't want a better plan for less money?

[ColdNoMore]

PoBear, perhaps you should revisit the Political Posts Escaped thread where you more than once decried the forum.

She is at least smart enough (barely) to know, that her attempted parsing of my post in a pathetic attempt at obfuscation...doesn't fool anyone.

Especially yourself, given your subtle (yet brilliant) response in Post #7...of which he feigned ignorance in Post #8. :D

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/political-posts-escaped-219469/

It is an expected reaction however, given that her cheeks flushed, forehead started sweating and head felt like it was in a vice...when exposed being such a flaming hypocrite.

[ColdNoMore]

I hope Donald Trump cleans up his act soon. He is still acting like a spoiled little brat having twitter tantrums.

That won't happen...given that it is in his DNA.

[janmcn]

I hope Donald Trump cleans up his act soon. He is still acting like a spoiled little brat having twitter tantrums.


Wait until he start having these twitter storms with leaders from around the world. Trump, the guy who said he would use the nuclear bomb against America's allies in Europe.

[billethkid]

Wait until he start having these twitter storms with leaders from around the world. Trump, the guy who said he would use the nuclear bomb against America's allies in Europe.

Would you be so helpful as to provide where and when he made such a statement.

[RickeyD]

Would you be so helpful as to provide where and when he made such a statement.



Donald Trump refuses to rule out using nuclear weapons against Europe | The Independent (https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-refuses-to-rule-out-using-nuclear-weapons-in-attack-on-europe-a6961101.html%3Famp?client=safari)

[autumnspring]

Not to worry, the GOP finally (after 50 years of trying) has a clear path to ending Medicare as we know it. They have a president-elect who will sign their bill into law. This is something Rep Paul Ryan has been praying for.

And Trump promised to repeal the ACA, replacing it with a " better plan for less money...something he will do very quickly". Who wouldn't want a better plan for less money?

If, we do not allow the politicians to spin reality things become truly simple.
1. Everyone wants-no one wants to pay.
2. We are not and perhaps should not be willing to not provide care for people who CHOOSE not to accept responsibility for themselves. The conservatives, the republicans object to people being FORCED to purchase insurance. If we choose not to accept that people need to be forced to have insurance and we refuse to deny care of people who do not have insurance, then, people who have property, savings, any kind of wealth END UP PAYING FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
3. If, you were buying insurance, an annuity etc, you would, YOU SHOULD check to see the issuer is financially solvent. ALMOST ALL OF US HAVE BOUGHT A POLICY (ANNUITY) CALLED SOCIAL SECURITY. IN THAT SAME PLAN IS MEDICARE, MEDICAID, PRESCRIPTION COVERAGE AND OBAMACARE. FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU WERE EARNING GOOD MONEY YOU COULD BUY THIS SAME COVERAGE FOR FAR LESS THEN WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN FORCED TO PAY INTO THE SYSTEM. ON TOP OF THAT WE KNOW THE COMPANY, OUR GOVERNMENT HAS NOT RUN THIS PLAN RESPONSIBLY AND IT IS BANKRUPT.
4. Government will never solve problems until things get so bad that the solution will be very painful. The current solution ADDING TO THE NATIONAL DEBT TO PAY OPERATING EXPENSES-CAN-MUST EVENTUALLY FAIL-HISTORY TELLS US SO.
5. SOLUTION-I DON'T HAVE ONE.
YOU COULD PAY MORE TAX. THERE IS A LINE FOR THAT ON YOUR TAX FORM. OUR LEADERS-EITHER DEFECTED CLINTON S OR TRUMP HAVE BOTH SHOWED GREAT SKILL IN AVOIDING TAXES.

I PLAN ON LEARNING FROM BOTH OF THEM COME TAX TIME.

[janmcn]

Would you be so helpful as to provide where and when he made such a statement.


Trump said it in an interview with Chris Matthews on Hardball last spring in Lacrosse, Wisconsin. Chris replays the full interview all the time.

In the same interview, Trump said he believes that women should be punished for having abortions.

Ring a bell?

[billethkid]

Donald Trump refuses to rule out using nuclear weapons against Europe | The Independent (https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-refuses-to-rule-out-using-nuclear-weapons-in-attack-on-europe-a6961101.html%3Famp?client=safari)

Thank you.
What he said was he was not taking the cards off the table.

With the turn of the partisan and media spinner handle it comes out he said he would use nukes against Europe.

Which he clearly did not state.

[Rockyrd]

A number of posts about FAKE NEWS.

Seems our newly elected President is a user.

Recall when the Times, Post, Journal etc were go to for news.

Now, it appears the most powerful man on earth is relying on the National Enquirer.


“Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens; Trump may have won popular vote.”

— Infowars,
website of leading conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, Nov. 14

“In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”

— Donald Trump, president-elect of the United States, Nov. 27

We learned last week that President-elect Trump has been turning away his intelligence briefers, leaving the tedious task of learning about national-security threats to his understudy, Vice President-elect Pence.

So where is Trump getting his information? Well, now we know. On Sunday, Trump tweeted out the wild allegations that “millions of people” voted illegally for his opponent. He also tweeted that there was “serious voter fraud” in three states that went for Hillary Clinton, “so why isn’t the media reporting on this?”

The media wasn’t reporting on this because it’s a load of hooey. But one “media” outlet has been “reporting” the groundless allegations, and it’s one that Trump relied on frequently during the campaign: Alex Jones’s Infowars, the radio and Internet home of the grassy-knoll crowd.

For two weeks before Trump made his allegations, Jones had been alleging this very thing, saying there was a “wall of fraud” and that at least “five states were stolen” by Clinton. Jones alleged that Trump “clearly won the popular vote,” asserting that in addition to 3 million illegal immigrants who voted, 4 million dead people voted.

Right! And aliens from outer space have landed in Florida — news Infowars is also currently breaking. “Was Florida Fireball a UFO?” Infowars asks, noting, “A fireball shot through the Earth’s atmosphere at 11pm on Nov. 23” and citing “social media” for the UFO bit.

The well-informed consumers of Infowars also know that at the moment the “Whereabouts of Julian Assange Remain a Mystery” since the election and WikiLeaks wants people “to stop requesting proof of life.”

Infowars listeners and readers know, as well, that requested recounts in three states are an attempt by the Green Party “to push the 2016 election into the hands of Congress.” Somewhat contradictorily, this effort also means there’s a “Democrat Counter-Coup Against Trump in Progress.” Jones warns that this is “a real threat and [George] Soros is behind it,” part of a “soft civil war.”

Jones’s rants would be funny if the soon-to-be most powerful man in the world didn’t rely so heavily on them."

Trump’s ‘news’ source: Alien lizards, fluoride mind control and voter fraud - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-news-source-alien-lizards-fluoride-mind-control-and-voter-fraud/2016/11/28/c0326c26-b5a0-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?utm_term=.95a4214bc0ea)

[dirtbanker]

Jan and (unt no more should get a room. 2 bulldikes with a chip on thier shoulder.

Trump has not taken office yet...it is wait and see biatch

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[ColdNoMore]

Jan and (unt no more should get a room. 2 bulldikes with a chip on thier shoulder.

Trump has not taken office yet...it is wait and see biatch

Dirtbag pokes her little head in again! :1rotfl:


:wave:

[MDLNB]

Trump said it in an interview with Chris Matthews on Hardball last spring in Lacrosse, Wisconsin. Chris replays the full interview all the time.

In the same interview, Trump said he believes that women should be punished for having abortions.

Ring a bell?

Not true. You libtards are good at perverting almost anything anyone says or does, to your agenda.

During the interview, he was asked if abortion was outlawed, did he think that women that had abortions should be punished. He said yes, if it was against the law. It was also established that abortion was NOT against the law.

Nice try Dumb :0000000000luvmyhors

[Rockyrd]

Jan and (unt no more should get a room. 2 bulldikes with a chip on thier shoulder.

Trump has not taken office yet...it is wait and see biatch

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21 Days now..."Trump has already gone the longest of any incoming president since at least 1976 without having one."

[MDLNB]

21 Days now..."Trump has already gone the longest of any incoming president since at least 1976 without having one."

He's too busy WORKING. Unlike the present poser.

Never heard you worrying about Hillary not having a press conference for almost a year during her campaign. Nosy little busybody, aren't you?

[Chi-Town]

A number of posts about FAKE NEWS.

Seems our newly elected President is a user.

Recall when the Times, Post, Journal etc were go to for news.

Now, it appears the most powerful man on earth is relying on the National Enquirer.


“Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens; Trump may have won popular vote.”

— Infowars,
website of leading conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, Nov. 14

“In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”

— Donald Trump, president-elect of the United States, Nov. 27

We learned last week that President-elect Trump has been turning away his intelligence briefers, leaving the tedious task of learning about national-security threats to his understudy, Vice President-elect Pence.

So where is Trump getting his information? Well, now we know. On Sunday, Trump tweeted out the wild allegations that “millions of people” voted illegally for his opponent. He also tweeted that there was “serious voter fraud” in three states that went for Hillary Clinton, “so why isn’t the media reporting on this?”

The media wasn’t reporting on this because it’s a load of hooey. But one “media” outlet has been “reporting” the groundless allegations, and it’s one that Trump relied on frequently during the campaign: Alex Jones’s Infowars, the radio and Internet home of the grassy-knoll crowd.

For two weeks before Trump made his allegations, Jones had been alleging this very thing, saying there was a “wall of fraud” and that at least “five states were stolen” by Clinton. Jones alleged that Trump “clearly won the popular vote,” asserting that in addition to 3 million illegal immigrants who voted, 4 million dead people voted.

Right! And aliens from outer space have landed in Florida — news Infowars is also currently breaking. “Was Florida Fireball a UFO?” Infowars asks, noting, “A fireball shot through the Earth’s atmosphere at 11pm on Nov. 23” and citing “social media” for the UFO bit.

The well-informed consumers of Infowars also know that at the moment the “Whereabouts of Julian Assange Remain a Mystery” since the election and WikiLeaks wants people “to stop requesting proof of life.”

Infowars listeners and readers know, as well, that requested recounts in three states are an attempt by the Green Party “to push the 2016 election into the hands of Congress.” Somewhat contradictorily, this effort also means there’s a “Democrat Counter-Coup Against Trump in Progress.” Jones warns that this is “a real threat and [George] Soros is behind it,” part of a “soft civil war.”

Jones’s rants would be funny if the soon-to-be most powerful man in the world didn’t rely so heavily on them."

Trump’s ‘news’ source: Alien lizards, fluoride mind control and voter fraud - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-news-source-alien-lizards-fluoride-mind-control-and-voter-fraud/2016/11/28/c0326c26-b5a0-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?utm_term=.95a4214bc0ea)
That 3 million figure was put out here as fact before Trump's ridiculous tweet.

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[janmcn]

That 3 million figure was put out here as fact before Trump's ridiculous tweet.

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It is amusing that these illegals always vote illegally in states that Trump lost. There is never any mention of voter fraud in TX, or AZ, two states with very high Hispanic populations.

To include NH in this list of states with illegals voting is laughable. Does anyone think that three million illegals showing up to vote in NH would not be noticed?

[janmcn]

If, we do not allow the politicians to spin reality things become truly simple.
1. Everyone wants-no one wants to pay.
2. We are not and perhaps should not be willing to not provide care for people who CHOOSE not to accept responsibility for themselves. The conservatives, the republicans object to people being FORCED to purchase insurance. If we choose not to accept that people need to be forced to have insurance and we refuse to deny care of people who do not have insurance, then, people who have property, savings, any kind of wealth END UP PAYING FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
3. If, you were buying insurance, an annuity etc, you would, YOU SHOULD check to see the issuer is financially solvent. ALMOST ALL OF US HAVE BOUGHT A POLICY (ANNUITY) CALLED SOCIAL SECURITY. IN THAT SAME PLAN IS MEDICARE, MEDICAID, PRESCRIPTION COVERAGE AND OBAMACARE. FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU WERE EARNING GOOD MONEY YOU COULD BUY THIS SAME COVERAGE FOR FAR LESS THEN WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN FORCED TO PAY INTO THE SYSTEM. ON TOP OF THAT WE KNOW THE COMPANY, OUR GOVERNMENT HAS NOT RUN THIS PLAN RESPONSIBLY AND IT IS BANKRUPT.
4. Government will never solve problems until things get so bad that the solution will be very painful. The current solution ADDING TO THE NATIONAL DEBT TO PAY OPERATING EXPENSES-CAN-MUST EVENTUALLY FAIL-HISTORY TELLS US SO.
5. SOLUTION-I DON'T HAVE ONE.
YOU COULD PAY MORE TAX. THERE IS A LINE FOR THAT ON YOUR TAX FORM. OUR LEADERS-EITHER DEFECTED CLINTON S OR TRUMP HAVE BOTH SHOWED GREAT SKILL IN AVOIDING TAXES.

I PLAN ON LEARNING FROM BOTH OF THEM COME TAX TIME.


HHS Secretary nominee Rep/Dr Tom Price (R-GA) promises to revamp Medicare within six to eight months. Reading the tea leaves this means a voucher system.

Hopefully no Trump voters are enjoying this program (Medicare), or they would feel really duped for voting for its demise.

[Rockyrd]

That 3 million figure was put out here as fact before Trump's ridiculous tweet.

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That is the point.

President elect depending on a source that says 9/11 was an inside job and the Sandy Hook shootings never happened.

Comforting

[Rockyrd]

He used Alex Jones during the campaign as well. He would cite it as fact and his followers ate it up.

Will not be funny if President is swayed by a place like that

[billethkid]

HHS Secretary nominee Rep/Dr Tom Price (R-GA) promises to revamp Medicare within six to eight months. Reading the tea leaves this means a voucher system.

Hopefully no Trump voters are enjoying this program (Medicare), or they would feel really duped for voting for its demise.

Why is it assumed that fixing medicare equates to the demise of medicare?

No doubt the media and the dems or anybody else that wants to scare the uninformed.

No matter what they do it will most likely not affect most of us here....just a fact....no point being finessed.

All ugly and up in arms just like when changes were made to social security ages. No effect to near term members. No big deal to most up and coming participants.

Boogey man politics!!