You've just been "hood winked"

[Alibaba]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.

[janmcn]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.


My favorite is Rep/Dr Price, nominee for sec of HHS, who believes that women should be fired from their jobs if they use birth control. Perhaps some poster can explain the logic in that. And how are the birth control police going to be set up?

[Rockyrd]

As some one who said over and over that this was a con, I have tried and still am trying to support what this new President might do.

I recall saying a number of times that I felt bad for Trump supporters because I felt it all was a charade, and a business exercise for the Trump co.. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but hearing today that when Nancy Pelosi called President Elect Trump and began to discuss some women issues like child care, he simply handed the phone to his daughter.

I really hope I am wrong, and try hard each day to find reasons, but he is doing nothing to reassure me, or his supporters.

He can say whatever he wants to make himself feel macho, but we need China badly, and he cannot simply turn his back on them. He can ignore conflict of interests as he is doing (based on little said about the Dec 15 announcement), but just seems that BE step forward and two back.

"She also spoke candidly about a recent phone call with Trump. At one point, she told him she wanted to work with him to promote an agenda for women.

“Which included childcare, early childhood education and paid leave, those kind of subjects,” explained Pelosi.

When asked if Trump was responsive, Pelosi replied, “Well, he put his daughter Ivanka on the phone, who is interested. So we had a good conversation in that respect.”
U
Pelosi: Trump ‘Put His Daughter On The Phone’ During First Call << CBS San Francisco (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/22/pelosi-trump-put-his-daughter-on-the-phone-during-first-call/)

[ndominesey]

So sad, so holy, go to canada

[Rockyrd]

So sad, so holy, go to canada

Great post. Full of facts, strong solid opinions and an honest and real appraisal. Good job

[jimbo2012]

Here they R folks the Never Trumpers.

As always with great bias

Don has a message for U

http://esquireuk.cdnds.net/16/46/480x240/landscape-1479206864-donald-trump-wrong.gif

[Rockyrd]

Here they R folks the Never Trumpers.

As always with great bias

Don has a message for U

http://esquireuk.cdnds.net/16/46/480x240/landscape-1479206864-donald-trump-wrong.gif

Another sound, logical comment speaking directly to points made

[MDLNB]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.

So far, so good. I have no problem with him. I thought I would but I decided to support him and so far he is doing great.

Too bad you are such a poor loser. Loser with a capital "L"

[Don Baldwin]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss.

You think "the system" is going to let some renegade come in and destroy everything?

He's also going to spend like crazy...and borrow like crazy too.

Interest rates will go negative. What is it? 40% of the worlds sovereign bonds are negative now? Japan is full of "negativity". You PAY for them to hold your money. Did I mention they want to also ban cash? So you have no alternative from digital funds. They want to know EVERYTHING you buy. It's a marketing gold mine. EVERY monetary transaction, recorded, sold, and data mined.

[Rockyrd]

So far, so good. I have no problem with him. I thought I would but I decided to support him and so far he is doing great.

Too bad you are such a poor loser. Loser with a capital "L"

So far ? He is not President as of yet, so not sure of what you base this on.

He surely is not "draining the swamp", and is backing off a few things.

BUT, the campaign is over now. Time to follow what he can accomplish and then issue grades.

The pompous loud posts with all the chest beating should be replaced by what rewpsults and at what cost and in context.

No way to praise or criticize yet. The Carrier thing was great show..not sure what it will cost us. Even ardent supporters (see that bastion of common sense, Palin) question it, but it did make for good press.

The China/Taiwan comment I am not sure about that...seems divided on party lines.

I certainly was appalled that he lavished such praise on Pakistan, and still do not nderstand that at all.

Lots to come. Just stay up to date on issues, because he is President and that is all that counts.

I wish him well, but still am concerned about foreign relations and his seeming disinterest in certain things.

We all shall see.

[MDLNB]

So far ? He is not President as of yet, so not sure of what you base this on.

He surely is not "draining the swamp", and is backing off a few things.

BUT, the campaign is over now. Time to follow what he can accomplish and then issue grades.

The pompous loud posts with all the chest beating should be replaced by what rewpsults and at what cost and in context.

No way to praise or criticize yet. The Carrier thing was great show..not sure what it will cost us. Even ardent supporters (see that bastion of common sense, Palin) question it, but it did make for good press.

The China/Taiwan comment I am not sure about that...seems divided on party lines.

I certainly was appalled that he lavished such praise on Pakistan, and still do not nderstand that at all.

Lots to come. Just stay up to date on issues, because he is President and that is all that counts.

I wish him well, but still am concerned about foreign relations and his seeming disinterest in certain things.

We all shall see.

Kind of contradictory you saying he is not the president yet and then telling us what he has NOT done.

You might want to use spell check. It would make your comment easier to read. Just saying. There is also an edit button. I have to use the heck out of it, myself. :thumbup:

[rubicon]

OMG the guy hasn't even been sworn in yet and already the news outlets blogs, etc are saturated with propaganda both positive and negative. People just have to get a grip. This nation of ours has become too hyper partisan for its own goodchilout

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

OMG the guy hasn't even been sworn in yet and already the news outlets blogs, etc are saturated with propaganda both positive and negative. People just have to get a grip. This nation of ours has become too hyper partisan for its own goodchilout

Personal Best Regards:

Only thing the media is covering are things Trump can control...

1. His worldwide business affairs, nothing new here. It IS, HAS BEEN, and WILL BE an issue until he does something.

And

2. HIS tweets and statements.

This is not on the media, and if you feel that way, you are clueless.

I want him to succeed because it is also my country but if you are President Elect, and you praise loudly a terrorist state who is the enemy of our ally (Pakistan) and step into the middle of a long accepted world wide dispute (Taiwan) and publicly insult our single largest creditor and a country we need (China) the media, worldwide will covert, it will affect financial markets, etc.

[jimbo2012]

As Pres he's exempt on his businesses, people can complain all they want but it's legal.

But on the 15th he has press conference detailin a turnover of his biz interests to his kids...............he's not going to go beyond that with blind trusts etc.

We knew his biz holdings when he running, no one made an big issue of it because he could never win.

His tweets are great I like them

he's online right now Thousands are reading them Get with the movement Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) | Twitter (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 39m39 minutes ago

The U.S. is going to substantialy reduce taxes and regulations on businesses, but any business that leaves our country for another country,

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 34m34 minutes ago

fires its employees, builds a new factory or plant in the other country, and then thinks it will sell its product back into the U.S. ......

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 25m25 minutes ago

without retribution or consequence, is WRONG! There will be a tax on our soon to be strong border of 35% for these companies ......

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 18m18 minutes ago

wanting to sell their product, cars, A.C. units etc., back across the border. This tax will make leaving financially difficult, but.....

2 minutes ago

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

these companies are able to move between all 50 states, with no tax or tariff being charged. Please be forewarned prior to making a very ...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1m1 minute ago

expensive mistake! THE UNITED STATES IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS


"Donald Trump is a master of the social-media environment," said Pennsylvania-based GOP strategist Charlie Gerow.

"He's now got the ability to end-run, to bypass the national media in ways Ronald Reagan could not have imagined."

[Cedwards38]

So sad, so holy, go to canada

You know what? We don't support Trump and we don't have to go to Canada. We are just as much Americans as you and we don't want to see our country harmed by this man. There are more of us Americans who did not vote for Trump than did. You hated President Obama, primarily because he insisted on remaining a black man. You blamed him for everything that you could and no one suggested you go to Canada, though there are time when I wish you had.

[jimbo2012]

You know what? We don't support Trump and we don't have to go to Canada. We are just as much Americans as you and we don't want to see our country harmed by this man. There are more of us Americans who did not vote for Trump than did. You hated President Obama, primarily because he insisted on remaining a black man. You blamed him for everything that you could and no one suggested you go to Canada, though there are time when I wish you had.

The whole Canada thing started with Hollywood and was never seriously considered.

More voted for the crook, not really I don't want to get into that deep but those votes were not necessarily legal voters.

I agree to call it a draw on POP votes, but our Constitutions works on electoral votes so it a moot point.

232-306 plus the House & Senate

the map shows a lot of red????

http://static.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/3141-trump-counties.png


Harm the country? really :mornincoffee:

[Don Baldwin]

You know what? We don't support Trump and we don't have to go to Canada. We are just as much Americans as you and we don't want to see our country harmed by this man. There are more of us Americans who did not vote for Trump than did. You hated President Obama, primarily because he insisted on remaining a black man. You blamed him for everything that you could and no one suggested you go to Canada, though there are time when I wish you had.

He got elected because he acted/spoke like a white. We didn't WANT "blackness".

WHAT have blacks done that is good? What? I keep waiting for the great black achievements...REAL achievements, NOT just things for black people.

[jimbo2012]

The China/Taiwan comment I am not sure about that...seems divided on party lines.



is Trump listening to the State Department? I hope not.

Americans voted to change Washington not to obey it.

[Taltarzac725]

is Trump listening to the State Department? I hope not.

Americans voted to change Washington not to obey it.

What good does angering China do? Maybe Trump wants some of his hotels on Taiwan.

[jimbo2012]

gotta have a better comeback than hotels

[Rockyrd]

As Pres he's exempt on his businesses, people can complain all they want but it's legal.

But on the 15th he has press conference detailin a turnover of his biz interests to his kids...............he's not going to go beyond that with blind trusts etc.

We knew his biz holdings when he running, no one made an big issue of it because he could never win.

His tweets are great I like them

he's online right now Thousands are reading them Get with the movement Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) | Twitter (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 39m39 minutes ago

The U.S. is going to substantialy reduce taxes and regulations on businesses, but any business that leaves our country for another country,

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 34m34 minutes ago

fires its employees, builds a new factory or plant in the other country, and then thinks it will sell its product back into the U.S. ......

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 25m25 minutes ago

without retribution or consequence, is WRONG! There will be a tax on our soon to be strong border of 35% for these companies ......

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 18m18 minutes ago

wanting to sell their product, cars, A.C. units etc., back across the border. This tax will make leaving financially difficult, but.....

2 minutes ago

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

these companies are able to move between all 50 states, with no tax or tariff being charged. Please be forewarned prior to making a very ...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1m1 minute ago

expensive mistake! THE UNITED STATES IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS


"Donald Trump is a master of the social-media environment," said Pennsylvania-based GOP strategist Charlie Gerow.

"He's now got the ability to end-run, to bypass the national media in ways Ronald Reagan could not have imagined."

Just a correction to your post with all due respect.

WE DID NOT KNOW HIS BUSINESS HOLDINGS BEFORE THE ELECTION AND WE STILL DO NOT KNOW TO WHOM HE IS INDEBTED.

THIS ESPECIALLY RELATES TO COUNTRIES.

ALREADY THE CASE WITH DEUTSCHE BANK PRESENTS SERIOUS CONFLICT.

I propose this will haunt him legally..LEGALLY as well as politically until it is all on the table.

[Rockyrd]

gotta have a better comeback than hotels

If our President is making decision or public policy statements based on his own personal business interests instead of our country's business.....THAT IS THE ONLY THING IN CONSIDERATION.

He has to learn that when he speaks, and you cheer, markets are moving, policy is changing both here and all around the world.

You ASSUME that all that benefits our country, but it does not. Instability in this world breeds much negative.

[jimbo2012]

Just a correction to your post with all due respect.

WE DID NOT KNOW HIS BUSINESS HOLDINGS BEFORE THE ELECTION AND WE STILL DO NOT KNOW TO WHOM HE IS INDEBTED.

THIS ESPECIALLY RELATES TO COUNTRIES.

ALREADY THE CASE WITH DEUTSCHE BANK PRESENTS SERIOUS CONFLICT.

I propose this will haunt him legally..LEGALLY as well as politically until it is all on the table.


Why do you feel you need to use all CAPS, we can read


You keep bringing up the same crap he filed financial reports as required.

60 million are satisfied, his party is satisfied.

there are no legal barriers it call exemption.

Haunt his sure from the left they have nothing else

[MDLNB]

You know what? We don't support Trump and we don't have to go to Canada. We are just as much Americans as you and we don't want to see our country harmed by this man. There are more of us Americans who did not vote for Trump than did. You hated President Obama, primarily because he insisted on remaining a black man. You blamed him for everything that you could and no one suggested you go to Canada, though there are time when I wish you had.

Like Obie said when he won, �Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.� And the pendulum swings both ways folks.

Now, it is your turn to be the LOSERS

[jimbo2012]

why do they need to BAD losers?

[Rockyrd]

Why do you feel you need to use all CAPS, we can read


You keep bringing up the same crap he filed financial reports as required.

60 million are satisfied, his party is satisfied.

there are no legal barriers it call exemption.

Haunt his sure from the left they have nothing else

Any novice is aware that the financial filings he presented were the minimum and did not represent many issues only shown on tax returns. That is the reason that all candidates release them.

They would show his indebtness to foreign entities or countries, which is the most important. It also shows if taxes were paid, rate and any charitable contributions.

The conflict he has with everyone is foreign indebtness and to whom. There are rumors about dealings with terrorist states for examples and his refusal to even clarify that is disconcerting, and will follow him in everything he says and does.

Seems he knows that and that alone should give you pause.

The financial records you mention tell you very little about a person and that is why, all candidates BUT him released taxes.

Hope that clarifies it for you. Referring to those initial filings is simply a waste of words.

[Rockyrd]

why do they need to BAD losers?

You also wonder about bad winners.

Let's discuss the future. Election is over.

[jimbo2012]

I believe your unsupported allegations are a waste of words.

Or R they from your fake or better yet MSM outlets

[Warren Kiefer]

Why do you feel you need to use all CAPS, we can read


You keep bringing up the same crap he filed financial reports as required.

60 million are satisfied, his party is satisfied.

there are no legal barriers it call exemption.

Haunt his sure from the left they have nothing else

Only a very stupid person would ignore the fact that Trump has not and probably never will disclose his taxes >>>

[debbieingigharbor]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.

Take note of all the Trump supporters now because in a short time you'll not be able to fine anyone who will admit to having voted for this con man.

We'll never get these folks to admit it was a mistake because they will be admitting they are fools. No fool like an old fool. Too bad the country will have to pay for it.

[billethkid]

Who cares whther what he supplied/suplies is the minimum.

If you were asked for information would you supply what was asked for or more that was not?

Of course you would not.

Trump, no different than any other intelligent investor, retiree or others will not knowing break the law. We and they will supply what ever is asked for and when ever. No more than what is required.

Where nothing is required to provide is NONE of the business of ANYBODY else including the biased media and poor losers looking for any ax to grind.

I guess some are not allowed to move on until such direction is released from the weekly talking points department. Now that the election is over there is no need for their BS!

[debbieingigharbor]

The whole Canada thing started with Hollywood and was never seriously considered.

More voted for the crook, not really I don't want to get into that deep but those votes were not necessarily legal voters.

I agree to call it a draw on POP votes, but our Constitutions works on electoral votes so it a moot point.

232-306 plus the House & Senate

the map shows a lot of red????

http://static.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/3141-trump-counties.png


Harm the country? really :mornincoffee:

Do you have any proof that many who voted were not legal? Love to hear it. Even Trump can't provide it. But then again, if you're a Trump supporter then you probably don't believe in facts. No wonder you don't want to get in to it.:D Pal, you need to turn off Fox News it's turning your brain to mush!chilout

[MDLNB]

I want him to succeed because it is also my country but if you are President Elect, and you praise loudly a terrorist state who is the enemy of our ally (Pakistan) and step into the middle of a long accepted world wide dispute (Taiwan) and publicly insult our single largest creditor and a country we need (China) the media, worldwide will covert, it will affect financial markets, etc.

In case you don't remember, Pakistan was, or is our friend. We sold hundreds of fighter/attack jets to them, and we do have an embassy there. We also intervene with our naval presence quite often when things get heated between China and Taiwan. Unlike Obie, I doubt Trump will be bowing to our enemies. His accepting a phone call from the leader of Taiwan may have ticked off China but their building a new military island in the South China Sea should have ticked us off. China has been secretly building it's military for many years. It is inevitable that we will eventually have an armed conflict with China. Anyone that thinks otherwise is in denial. They use any excuse in an attempt to intimidate us.

[jimbo2012]

Do you have any proof that many who voted were not legal? Love to hear it. Even Trump can't provide it. But then again, if you're a Trump supporter then you probably don't believe in facts. No wonder you don't want to get in to it.:D Pal, you need to turn off Fox News

No one can prove it, it's opinion, everyone has one.

Fox is only of many sources

[MDLNB]

Do you have any proof that many who voted were not legal? Love to hear it. Even Trump can't provide it. But then again, if you're a Trump supporter then you probably don't believe in facts. No wonder you don't want to get in to it.:D Pal, you need to turn off Fox News it's turning your brain to mush!chilout

Who's asking for the RECOUNT? The left does not want voter IDs but they are now claiming voter fraud. That's what I call irony. How many years has the left claimed that there is no such thing as voter fraud?

The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming! :a20:

[Buffalo Jim]

Take note of all the Trump supporters now because in a short time you'll not be able to fine anyone who will admit to having voted for this con man.

We'll never get these folks to admit it was a mistake because they will be admitting they are fools. No fool like an old fool. Too bad the country will have to pay for it.

So you are expecting folks to act as they did concerning Obie ---
you could not find anyone who would admit to having voted for him .

[janmcn]

Take note of all the Trump supporters now because in a short time you'll not be able to fine anyone who will admit to having voted for this con man.

We'll never get these folks to admit it was a mistake because they will be admitting they are fools. No fool like an old fool. Too bad the country will have to pay for it.


These are the same old fools that will be screaming their heads off as they wander the streets with their vouchers begging any insurance company to cover them at any price, in spite of their previous conditions.

[janmcn]

If our President is making decision or public policy statements based on his own personal business interests instead of our country's business.....THAT IS THE ONLY THING IN CONSIDERATION.

He has to learn that when he speaks, and you cheer, markets are moving, policy is changing both here and all around the world.

You ASSUME that all that benefits our country, but it does not. Instability in this world breeds much negative.


A month ago Trump had a representative in Taiwan investigating the building of a luxury hotel. Anyone know if this was discussed with the new president of Taiwan?

[Rockyrd]

In case you don't remember, Pakistan was, or is our friend. We sold hundreds of fighter/attack jets to them, and we do have an embassy there. We also intervene with our naval presence quite often when things get heated between China and Taiwan. Unlike Obie, I doubt Trump will be bowing to our enemies. His accepting a phone call from the leader of Taiwan may have ticked off China but their building a new military island in the South China Sea should have ticked us off. China has been secretly building it's military for many years. It is inevitable that we will eventually have an armed conflict with China. Anyone that thinks otherwise is in denial. They use any excuse in an attempt to intimidate us.

You are correct..I was not clear. Without adding India to the conversation, I confused it...my bad.

[jimbo2012]

A month ago Trump had a representative in Taiwan investigating the building of a luxury hotel. Anyone know if this was discussed with the new president of Taiwan?

Well I was in on that conference call it was not discussed.

Oh that's called fake news

[MDLNB]

So you are expecting folks to act as they did concerning Obie ---
you could not find anyone who would admit to having voted for him .

I did........NOT vote for him(Obie) either time. I still believe that it was the single worst mistake the Democrats have ever done in the history of our presidential elections. But, now they have topped it with Hillary. Thank goodness Trump's team outsmarted her campaign. It did not help the Democrats to have such a poor choice representing them, and then cheat as well. I am glad that Bernie did not win the primary, but who knows how he would have done on an equal playing field.

The Democratic party of my father is defunct. There is no going that far back now. All they can do is try to make the most of being the Democrat Socialist party.

I have to say that after 8 years of Obama, I do enjoy saying "Trump ate Hillary's lunch and then kicked her to the curb." I realize that this is not a nice thing to say, but after all the Sh** we have had to eat in the last 8 years, especially the first TWO, it seems appropriate. Remember what Obama said:

�Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.�

About the Republicans, he said; "�We�re gonna punish our enemies..."

President Obama In Philadelphia: Republicans "Don't Know How To Drive. They Can Ride With Us If They Want To, But They Got To Get In The Back Seat."

[MDLNB]

These are the same old fools that will be screaming their heads off as they wander the streets with their vouchers begging any insurance company to cover them at any price, in spite of their previous conditions.

They are already doing that with ObamaCare. Where have you been? How many millions lost their health insurance because of Obamacare? "You can keep your insurance and you can keep your doctor" my @ss! We were better off before Obamacare and a ten page health care plan can fix this mess, AFTER they repeal it.

[bbbbbb]

[QUOTE=Guest]Who cares whther what he supplied/suplies is the minimum.

If you were asked for information would you supply what was asked for or more that was not?

Of course you would not.

Trump, no different than any other intelligent investor, retiree or others will not knowing break the law. We and they will supply what ever is asked for and when ever. No more than what is required.

Where nothing is required to provide is NONE of the business of ANYBODY else including the biased media and poor losers looking for any ax to grind.

Comment:
When Mr. O was voted in to office, the popular cry was give him a chance, he means well, he has a good smile, he will be the first,,,,,,,,etc, etc. Do not worry about him having no business experience, do not worry that he probably got thru school on Affirmative Action, etc.

But now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, We have elected Mr. Trump. He has an excellent business education, years of experience in building and developing major products, he has a good smile, he means well. He is not a Chicago Politician. So give him a chance folks, just cool it for awhile you may be surprised.
bbbbbb :kiss:

[janmcn]

They are already doing that with ObamaCare. Where have you been? How many millions lost their health insurance because of Obamacare? "You can keep your insurance and you can keep your doctor" my @ss! We were better off before Obamacare and a ten page health care plan can fix this mess, AFTER they repeal it.


So how come the enrollment in Obamacare keeps growing, now up to 22 million? Hopefully none of these 22 million are Trump voters. Trump promises to repeal the ACA on day one and dump these 22 million back on the emergency rooms where they belong.

[dbussone]

So how come the enrollment in Obamacare keeps growing, now up to 22 million? Hopefully none of these 22 million are Trump voters. Trump promises to repeal the ACA on day one and dump these 22 million back on the emergency rooms where they belong.



One reason is that some states, including CA, are doing what we were promised would never happen. Non-citizens are accessing the ACA.


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[jebartle]

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss.

You think "the system" is going to let some renegade come in and destroy everything?

He's also going to spend like crazy...and borrow like crazy too.

Interest rates will go negative. What is it? 40% of the worlds sovereign bonds are negative now? Japan is full of "negativity". You PAY for them to hold your money. Did I mention they want to also ban cash? So you have no alternative from digital funds. They want to know EVERYTHING you buy. It's a marketing gold mine. EVERY monetary transaction, recorded, sold, and data mined.

you forgot Trump is the bankruptcy KING, he will have US file bankruptcy, problem solved, ha!

[MDLNB]

So how come the enrollment in Obamacare keeps growing, now up to 22 million? Hopefully none of these 22 million are Trump voters. Trump promises to repeal the ACA on day one and dump these 22 million back on the emergency rooms where they belong.

The reason for increased enrollment? Easy, everyone is losing their insurance because of Obamacare and having to find some fast replacement before doing their taxes. That's not too hard to understand. You still have at least 31 million without insurance according the BoLS today.

[autumnspring]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.

1. I suspect it is a safe bet that you voted for Hillary.
2. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS I AM AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. For BOTH of our sakes may you NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE. As I stated, I looked at who Obama was and is. HAD YOU LOOKED you would have seen he was surrounded by people like god damn america WRIGHT, the criminal ARES and the white hating, out spoken antisemitic FARRACAN.
You either did not look or did not care. I CAN TRULY SAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
3. RE; CLEAN THE SWAMP
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your anti TRUMP and anti REPUBLICAN VIEW.
So far TRUMP HAS NOT EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.
CLEAN THE SWAMP
THE LAW HAS GOTTEN RID OF OBAMA
THE VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE CLINTON GANG
SOROS-WHO HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FUNDING THE VIOLENT ANTI TRUMP RIOTS WILL BE REMOVED TO HELL SHORTLY BY THE GRIM REAPER.
4. RE: SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
The fact is that our EDUCATION STANDARDS have been going down since THE LIBERALS, THROUGH THE TEACHERS UNION took over our education system in the 1960's. The UNITED STATES spends TWICE as much per student as our competitors do an our students SCORE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD. If, nothing else TRUMP spent about 10% of what HILLARY SPENT on his campaign. EVEN YOU HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS MUST SEE TRUMP GOT FAR MORE VALUE PER DOLLAR SPENT-IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD-HILLAY LOST-TRUMP WON. If, you dare to see it, we spend more than enough on education. WE JUST ARE NOT GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

FOR ALL OF US-I HOPE YOU WILL NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.

5. RE: GLOBAL WARMING
Again DON'T LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY. Global warming has become a religion. Were you to READ, you would find global warming was predicted by EINSTEIN around WWII. The cause is a cyclical change in the tilt of the earth You read about a rise in CO2. There is a magic balance in nature. At higher levels of CO2 plants grow faster and so use more CO2 to produce faster growth so they produce more OXYGEN. You can prove this to yourself. Buy two plants, put a clear plastic bag over each of them. Put a dish of club soda in one and a dish of
water in the other. You will change the club soda dish every two days or so and change the water only dish at the same time-just to be equal. In a week or two you will see clearly the plant with more CO2 is doing better. Al Gore's professor has said-NOT REPEATED IN THE LIBERAL CONTROLLED NEWS-that they tweaked the numbers to show global warming TO KEEP THE GRANT MONEY FLOWING. AL GORE the self elected preacher of global warming tells you/us to REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT WHILE HE LIVES IN A HUGE HOME BURNING FUEL LIKE CRAZY AND HE JETS ALL OVER THE WORLD-BURNING FUEL-TO INDOCTRINATE BELIEVERS LIKE YOURSELF.
CAN YOU STILL HUM THE HARRI KRISHNA TUNE?

[MDLNB]

you forgot Trump is the bankruptcy KING, he will have US file bankruptcy, problem solved, ha!

We are already in bankruptcy and don't want to admit it. Do you really want to go there?

[MDLNB]

1. I suspect it is a safe bet that you voted for Hillary.
2. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS I AM AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. For BOTH of our sakes may you NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE. As I stated, I looked at who Obama was and is. HAD YOU LOOKED you would have seen he was surrounded by people like god damn america WRIGHT, the criminal ARES and the white hating, out spoken antisemitic FARRACAN.
You either did not look or did not care. I CAN TRULY SAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
3. RE; CLEAN THE SWAMP
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your anti TRUMP and anti REPUBLICAN VIEW.
So far TRUMP HAS NOT EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.
CLEAN THE SWAMP
THE LAW HAS GOTTEN RID OF OBAMA
THE VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE CLINTON GANG
SOROS-WHO HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FUNDING THE VIOLENT ANTI TRUMP RIOTS WILL BE REMOVED TO HELL SHORTLY BY THE GRIM REAPER.
4. RE: SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
The fact is that our EDUCATION STANDARDS have been going down since THE LIBERALS, THROUGH THE TEACHERS UNION took over our education system in the 1960's. The UNITED STATES spends TWICE as much per student as our competitors do an our students SCORE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD. If, nothing else TRUMP spent about 10% of what HILLARY SPENT on his campaign. EVEN YOU HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS MUST SEE TRUMP GOT FAR MORE VALUE PER DOLLAR SPENT-IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD-HILLAY LOST-TRUMP WON. If, you dare to see it, we spend more than enough on education. WE JUST ARE NOT GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

FOR ALL OF US-I HOPE YOU WILL NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.

5. RE: GLOBAL WARMING
Again DON'T LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY. Global warming has become a religion. Were you to READ, you would find global warming was predicted by EINSTEIN around WWII. The cause is a cyclical change in the tilt of the earth You read about a rise in CO2. There is a magic balance in nature. At higher levels of CO2 plants grow faster and so use more CO2 to produce faster growth so they produce more OXYGEN. You can prove this to yourself. Buy two plants, put a clear plastic bag over each of them. Put a dish of club soda in one and a dish of
water in the other. You will change the club soda dish every two days or so and change the water only dish at the same time-just to be equal. In a week or two you will see clearly the plant with more CO2 is doing better. Al Gore's professor has said-NOT REPEATED IN THE LIBERAL CONTROLLED NEWS-that they tweaked the numbers to show global warming TO KEEP THE GRANT MONEY FLOWING. AL GORE the self elected preacher of global warming tells you/us to REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT WHILE HE LIVES IN A HUGE HOME BURNING FUEL LIKE CRAZY AND HE JETS ALL OVER THE WORLD-BURNING FUEL-TO INDOCTRINATE BELIEVERS LIKE YOURSELF.
CAN YOU STILL HUM THE HARRI KRISHNA TUNE?

Excellent response! :boom:

[Cedwards38]

Like Obie said when he won, �Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.� And the pendulum swings both ways folks.

Now, it is your turn to be the LOSERS

Nobody is questioning that. If it helps to pump up your childish ego then here it is, you won and the majority of Americans who voted for someone else are the losers. What we are saying now is that because we lost we don't have to bow down to this racist, misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull, and I won't. In 2008, Senate Majority Leader Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky stated, during the first week of the new Obama Administration, "my number one priority is making sure president Obama�s a one-term president." The majority of Americans now, like the Majority Leader then, are free to say ditto.

[MDLNB]

Nobody is questioning that. If it helps to pump up your childish ego then here it is, you won and the majority of Americans who voted for someone else are the losers. What we are saying now is that because we lost we don't have to bow down to this racist, misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull, and I won't. In 2008, Senate Majority Leader Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky stated, during the first week of the new Obama Administration, "my number one priority is making sure president Obama�s a one-term president." The majority of Americans now, like the Majority Leader then, are free to say ditto.

Awww, did ole Mitch hurt your feelings? Are you still repeating those out of date liberal talking points, left over from Hillary's FAILED campaign (misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull)?

Now, you know what it feels like to be a LOSER. Hillary did NOT win. Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. So, yes you have to live with it. Everyone has opportunity in America, Obama proved that. No matter how incompetent, as Obie proved.

Dude, you can say that the majority of America can say anything they wish, but it won't matter for four years. It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do.

Fact is that TRUMP WON! If you wish to be a poor loser because you may have lost a freebie or two, fine. It's your choice. Sorry but not everyone gets a trophy for attendance in the general election. You put your support on a criminal and you got your just desserts. :cryin2:

[autumnspring]

1. I suspect it is a safe bet that you voted for Hillary.
2. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS I AM AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. For BOTH of our sakes may you NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE. As I stated, I looked at who Obama was and is. HAD YOU LOOKED you would have seen he was surrounded by people like god damn america WRIGHT, the criminal ARES and the white hating, out spoken antisemitic FARRACAN.
You either did not look or did not care. I CAN TRULY SAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
3. RE; CLEAN THE SWAMP
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your anti TRUMP and anti REPUBLICAN VIEW.
So far TRUMP HAS NOT EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.
CLEAN THE SWAMP
THE LAW HAS GOTTEN RID OF OBAMA
THE VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE CLINTON GANG
SOROS-WHO HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FUNDING THE VIOLENT ANTI TRUMP RIOTS WILL BE REMOVED TO HELL SHORTLY BY THE GRIM REAPER.
4. RE: SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
The fact is that our EDUCATION STANDARDS have been going down since THE LIBERALS, THROUGH THE TEACHERS UNION took over our education system in the 1960's. The UNITED STATES spends TWICE as much per student as our competitors do an our students SCORE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD. If, nothing else TRUMP spent about 10% of what HILLARY SPENT on his campaign. EVEN YOU HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS MUST SEE TRUMP GOT FAR MORE VALUE PER DOLLAR SPENT-IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD-HILLAY LOST-TRUMP WON. If, you dare to see it, we spend more than enough on education. WE JUST ARE NOT GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

FOR ALL OF US-I HOPE YOU WILL NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.

5. RE: GLOBAL WARMING
Again DON'T LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY. Global warming has become a religion. Were you to READ, you would find global warming was predicted by EINSTEIN around WWII. The cause is a cyclical change in the tilt of the earth You read about a rise in CO2. There is a magic balance in nature. At higher levels of CO2 plants grow faster and so use more CO2 to produce faster growth so they produce more OXYGEN. You can prove this to yourself. Buy two plants, put a clear plastic bag over each of them. Put a dish of club soda in one and a dish of
water in the other. You will change the club soda dish every two days or so and change the water only dish at the same time-just to be equal. In a week or two you will see clearly the plant with more CO2 is doing better. Al Gore's professor has said-NOT REPEATED IN THE LIBERAL CONTROLLED NEWS-that they tweaked the numbers to show global warming TO KEEP THE GRANT MONEY FLOWING. AL GORE the self elected preacher of global warming tells you/us to REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT WHILE HE LIVES IN A HUGE HOME BURNING FUEL LIKE CRAZY AND HE JETS ALL OVER THE WORLD-BURNING FUEL-TO INDOCTRINATE BELIEVERS LIKE YOURSELF.
CAN YOU STILL HUM THE HARRI KRISHNA TUNE?

YOU LIKELY DO NOT UNDERSTAND SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE
Social Security, medicare, medicaid and now OBAMACARE are all paid for in full or in part by the money you/we paid as a social security tax. Like most other OBVIOUS TAXES we pay it is a graduated tax. People who earn more pay more into the system but not only do they pay more in they get less per dollar they pay in tax. The amount you paid to social security was likely the biggest tax you paid.
More important, many people may not even realize it, for ever dollar you sent in your employer was forced to match it. I WAS SELF EMPLOYED AND I HAD TO PAY 13% TO SOCIAL SECURITY. If, you worked for someone other than your self you paid a maximum of 7%. THE OTHER HALF WAS ESSENTIALLY TAX FREE INCOME TO YOU.

As to the PAYOUT compared to what you have paid in.
My wife and I just got on medicare. ONCE AGAIN WE GET THE SHAFT. Because of what I had EARNED, we do not have the guaranteed INFLATION CAP on what we pay to medicare AND I PAY THE TOP AMOUNT FOR MEDICARE COVERAGE.

[autumnspring]

We keep hearing about Obama having added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt.

IF, we say and hear it enough times WE BELIEVE WE UNDERSTAND IT AND IT MAKES SENSE. Under HITLER that was called the big lie. I am perhaps less subject to it because I am one of only about 5% of people who cannot be hypnotized. tEN TRILLION DOLLARS IS SEVERAL FRIGHT TRAINS FULL OF HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS.

We have been led to believe that CHINA is our largest creditor.
The fact is we owe slightly more to JAPAN than to CHINA.
ARE YOU STARTING TO REALIZE WE ARE BEING FED FALSE INFORMATION??????????????
FOR THE BIG LIE-JAPAN AND CHINA TOGETHER HOLD 20% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT-SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT.
YOU TRUSTED OUR GOVERNMENT TO HOLD THE MONEY YOU WERE FORCED TO SEND TO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR, AT LEAST FOR ME, 45 YEARS AND THEY SPENT IT.

YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN A FAR BETTER DEAL THAN SOCIAL SECURITY WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE AND FOR FAR LESS COST. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

[ColdNoMore]

One reason is that some states, including CA, are doing what we were promised would never happen. Non-citizens are accessing the ACA.

Actual proof from a legitimate source...and not just someone's opinion?

[ColdNoMore]

1. I suspect it is a safe bet that you voted for Hillary.
2. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS I AM AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. For BOTH of our sakes may you NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE. As I stated, I looked at who Obama was and is. HAD YOU LOOKED you would have seen he was surrounded by people like god damn america WRIGHT, the criminal ARES and the white hating, out spoken antisemitic FARRACAN.
You either did not look or did not care. I CAN TRULY SAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
3. RE; CLEAN THE SWAMP
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your anti TRUMP and anti REPUBLICAN VIEW.
So far TRUMP HAS NOT EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.
CLEAN THE SWAMP
THE LAW HAS GOTTEN RID OF OBAMA
THE VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE CLINTON GANG
SOROS-WHO HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FUNDING THE VIOLENT ANTI TRUMP RIOTS WILL BE REMOVED TO HELL SHORTLY BY THE GRIM REAPER.
4. RE: SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
The fact is that our EDUCATION STANDARDS have been going down since THE LIBERALS, THROUGH THE TEACHERS UNION took over our education system in the 1960's. The UNITED STATES spends TWICE as much per student as our competitors do an our students SCORE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD. If, nothing else TRUMP spent about 10% of what HILLARY SPENT on his campaign. EVEN YOU HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS MUST SEE TRUMP GOT FAR MORE VALUE PER DOLLAR SPENT-IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD-HILLAY LOST-TRUMP WON. If, you dare to see it, we spend more than enough on education. WE JUST ARE NOT GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

FOR ALL OF US-I HOPE YOU WILL NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.

5. RE: GLOBAL WARMING
Again DON'T LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY. Global warming has become a religion. Were you to READ, you would find global warming was predicted by EINSTEIN around WWII. The cause is a cyclical change in the tilt of the earth You read about a rise in CO2. There is a magic balance in nature. At higher levels of CO2 plants grow faster and so use more CO2 to produce faster growth so they produce more OXYGEN. You can prove this to yourself. Buy two plants, put a clear plastic bag over each of them. Put a dish of club soda in one and a dish of
water in the other. You will change the club soda dish every two days or so and change the water only dish at the same time-just to be equal. In a week or two you will see clearly the plant with more CO2 is doing better. Al Gore's professor has said-NOT REPEATED IN THE LIBERAL CONTROLLED NEWS-that they tweaked the numbers to show global warming TO KEEP THE GRANT MONEY FLOWING. AL GORE the self elected preacher of global warming tells you/us to REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT WHILE HE LIVES IN A HUGE HOME BURNING FUEL LIKE CRAZY AND HE JETS ALL OVER THE WORLD-BURNING FUEL-TO INDOCTRINATE BELIEVERS LIKE YOURSELF.
CAN YOU STILL HUM THE HARRI KRISHNA TUNE?

:1rotfl: :1rotfl:


I don't even know where to start...with this willfully ignorant diatribe. :ohdear:

[ColdNoMore]

I am perhaps less subject to it because I am one of only about 5% of people who cannot be hypnotized.

This, in a nutshell...is what's wrong with so many on the right.

You think that you can say anything, or pass on any lie...and people should just believe you? :oops:

Not Getting Sleepy? Not Everyone Can Be Hypnotized | Psych Central News (http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/10/06/not-getting-sleepy-not-everyone-can-be-hypnotized/45672.html)

The researcher estimates that 25 percent of the patients he sees cannot be hypnotized.


BTW, I can't be hypnotized either.

The big difference between us is, that I don't believe lies...nor can be bullchitted either. ;)

On another note, why do you always scream with caps...like your head is about to explode? :shrug:

[autumnspring]

Nobody is questioning that. If it helps to pump up your childish ego then here it is, you won and the majority of Americans who voted for someone else are the losers. What we are saying now is that because we lost we don't have to bow down to this racist, misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull, and I won't. In 2008, Senate Majority Leader Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky stated, during the first week of the new Obama Administration, "my number one priority is making sure president Obama�s a one-term president." The majority of Americans now, like the Majority Leader then, are free to say ditto.

This is not a HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL GAME. Our TEAM IS AMERICA not DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN PARTY.
OBAMA himself proved he should not have been president.
Obama hitched his election to the worst that is America. Obama, our first BLACK PRESIDENT was granted a unique opportunity to put a major dent in race issues. Instead OBAMA CHOSE to fan sparks into forest fires. THINK-on his exit Obama leaves our country/MY COUNTRY thoroughly divided not only along the lines of RACE but now SUCCESS ENVY is the LIBERAL VIEW. DAMN IT-if you are willing to work HARD. if failure is simply not a concept in your thoughts YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. I AM PROOF OF THAT.
For the CLINTONS they are CRIMINALS. I must admit they have proven to be GREAT at getting away with crimes.

RE:KKK
THE FACTS ARE-Trump did not seek the support of the KKK.
CLOSER TO HOME-are YOU AWARE THAT HILLARY CHOSE TO SPEAK FOR THE TRAVON MARTIN GROUP? Are you aware that TRAVON MARTIN'S OWN MOTHER SAID HE WAS NO GOOD UNTIL PEOPLE LIKE SHARPTON SHUT HER UP.

There were pictures of ARES, Obama;s pet CRIMINAL, attending TRUMP rallies.

There are checks showing SOROS has funded leaders of violent anit Trump protests.

There are pictures of groups of BLACK PANTHERS at voting sites during the OBAMA vote

AMERICA HAS WON=SUCK IT UP.

[Rockyrd]

We keep hearing about Obama having added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt.

IF, we say and hear it enough times WE BELIEVE WE UNDERSTAND IT AND IT MAKES SENSE. Under HITLER that was called the big lie. I am perhaps less subject to it because I am one of only about 5% of people who cannot be hypnotized. tEN TRILLION DOLLARS IS SEVERAL FRIGHT TRAINS FULL OF HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS.

We have been led to believe that CHINA is our largest creditor.
The fact is we owe slightly more to JAPAN than to CHINA.
ARE YOU STARTING TO REALIZE WE ARE BEING FED FALSE INFORMATION??????????????
FOR THE BIG LIE-JAPAN AND CHINA TOGETHER HOLD 20% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT-SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT.
YOU TRUSTED OUR GOVERNMENT TO HOLD THE MONEY YOU WERE FORCED TO SEND TO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR, AT LEAST FOR ME, 45 YEARS AND THEY SPENT IT.

YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN A FAR BETTER DEAL THAN SOCIAL SECURITY WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE AND FOR FAR LESS COST. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

First this post is pretty much copied from one or two websites, mostly Progressives.com. That alone is noteworthy but the information supplied is about 3 years old. Basically, it is one of those websites that BOTH conservative and liberal sites produce to market their own propaganda. The kind of website that is used simply to help you feel better about your allegiance and light in facts....lies of omission are common.

Our national debt is complicated but since the subject was FOREIGN debt, I will cut and paste reference the foreign debt but really suggest, you give the entire thing a read. This is a link, I believe to be accurate and current (Nov 21 2016)

"China owns $1.157 trillion U.S. debt. As of September 2016, it was the largest foreign holder. Japan is next, holding $1.136 trillion. Both Japan and China want to keep the value of the dollar high when compared to their currencies. That helps their exports to the United States seem more affordable, which helps their economies grow. That's why, despite China's occasional threats to sell its holdings, both countries are happy to be America's biggest foreign bankers. China replaced the United Kingdom as the second largest foreign holder on May 31, 2007. That's when it increased its holdings to $699 billion, outpacing the United Kingdom's $640 billion.

Ireland is third, holding $270 billion. The Cayman Islands is fourth, at $262 billion. Luxembourg is seventh ($227 billion), and Belgium is eleventh ($142 billion). The Bureau of International Settlements believes all three are fronts for sovereign wealth funds and hedge funds that don't want to reveal their positions.

Brazil is the fifth largest holder at $258 billion. The next largest holders are Switzerland, the UK, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and India. They each hold between $122 - $240 billion each. (Source: Foreign Holding of U.S. Treasury Securities, October 18, 2016. "Petrodollars and Global Imbalances," U.S. Treasury, February 2006.) Data is from various reports that are released at different times. Therefore, the total may not add up to $19 trillion.

Who Owns the US National Debt? How Much Is Owed? (https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124)

[dbussone]

Actual proof from a legitimate source...and not just someone's opinion?



Here's a good start for you. I'm sure you can find the numerous other legitimate (nonFake news) sources. This one is right from the Feds.

Find out what immigration statuses qualify for coverage in the Health Insurance Marketplace. | HealthCare.gov (https://www.healthcare.gov/immigrants/immigration-status/)

CA recently opened access to anyone with a CA drivers license - illegal or not.


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[Rockyrd]

This is not a HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL GAME. Our TEAM IS AMERICA not DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN PARTY.
OBAMA himself proved he should not have been president.
Obama hitched his election to the worst that is America. Obama, our first BLACK PRESIDENT was granted a unique opportunity to put a major dent in race issues. Instead OBAMA CHOSE to fan sparks into forest fires. THINK-on his exit Obama leaves our country/MY COUNTRY thoroughly divided not only along the lines of RACE but now SUCCESS ENVY is the LIBERAL VIEW. DAMN IT-if you are willing to work HARD. if failure is simply not a concept in your thoughts YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. I AM PROOF OF THAT.
For the CLINTONS they are CRIMINALS. I must admit they have proven to be GREAT at getting away with crimes.

RE:KKK
THE FACTS ARE-Trump did not seek the support of the KKK.
CLOSER TO HOME-are YOU AWARE THAT HILLARY CHOSE TO SPEAK FOR THE TRAVON MARTIN GROUP? Are you aware that TRAVON MARTIN'S OWN MOTHER SAID HE WAS NO GOOD UNTIL PEOPLE LIKE SHARPTON SHUT HER UP.

There were pictures of ARES, Obama;s pet CRIMINAL, attending TRUMP rallies.

There are checks showing SOROS has funded leaders of violent anit Trump protests.

There are pictures of groups of BLACK PANTHERS at voting sites during the OBAMA vote

AMERICA HAS WON=SUCK IT UP.

This is a mish mash of junk.

Not sure where you compiled this from, but for example the legendary Black Panther story is so over done, you don't even hear it much unless someone buries it in a ranting post. I also might suggest you actually do some research on it before you cite it again.

You say lots of words, you call people criminals...nothing you say has any validation, thus it is just junk.

[janmcn]

Here's a good start for you. I'm sure you can find the numerous other legitimate (nonFake news) sources. This one is right from the Feds.

Find out what immigration statuses qualify for coverage in the Health Insurance Marketplace. | HealthCare.gov (https://www.healthcare.gov/immigrants/immigration-status/)

CA recently opened access to anyone with a CA drivers license - illegal or not.


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Not to worry, Trump promises to repeal Obamacare on day one, which means we only have to put up with it for about six more weeks.

His Sec HHS nominee, Rep/Dr Tom Price promises to privatize Medicare within six to eight months, which means we will be rid of that dastardly program by spring.

[ColdNoMore]

Let's start with your post where I asked for proof.

You said....

One reason is that some states, including CA, are doing what we were promised would never happen. Non-citizens are accessing the ACA.

No one has ever promised that 'non-citizens' would be excluded.

ObamaCare and Immigrants - Obamacare Facts (http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-immigrants/)

Who is Eligible for the Marketplace?

Most people in the following groups are eligible for coverage through the Health Insurance Marketplace:

-U.S. citizens
-U.S. nationals
-Lawfully present immigrants


So you not only lied, but are also unable to provide the proof I requested.

Now aren't you ashamed of yourself? :D






CA recently opened access to anyone with a CA drivers license - illegal or not.

OK, since I've now proved that you were lying (either intentionally or through ignorance/misinformation from the right) previously...let's try this again.

Do you have a legitimate source that states undocumented workers...are being allowed to use ACA?

And not that some might have tried...but were caught.

Please prove your statement that illegal immigrants are being allowed (contrary to the law)...to use the Marketplace.

I'll wait. :popcorn:




Since I feel sorry for you, I'll help you out. ;)

Yes, the California legislature has requested a waiver to allow undocumented aliens to access the Marketplace, but the federal government has not said they would allow it.

That's what you get for not doing a little research and making sure it's really true...when Faux News tells you something. :ohdear:

[dbussone]

Let's start with your post where I asked for proof.

You said....



No one has ever promised that 'non-citizens' would be excluded.

ObamaCare and Immigrants - Obamacare Facts (http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-immigrants/)




So you not only lied, but are also unable to provide the proof I requested.

Now aren't you ashamed of yourself? :D







OK, since I've now proved that you were lying (either intentionally or through ignorance/misinformation from the right) previously...let's try this again.

Do you have a legitimate source that states undocumented workers...are being allowed to use ACA?

And not that some might have tried...but were caught.

Please prove your statement that illegal immigrants are being allowed (contrary to the law)...to use the Marketplace.

I'll wait. :popcorn:




Since I feel sorry for you, I'll help you out. ;)

Yes, the California legislature has talked about requesting a waiver to allow undocumented aliens to access the Marketplace, but it has not passed, has not been signed by the Governor...nor has the federal government said they would allow it.

That's what you get for not doing a little research and making sure it's really true...when Faux News tells you something. :ohdear:


Please don't feel sorry for me. Here's another. I'll let you find the rest on your own since you claim to be so good at research.

Forbes Welcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/03/25/because-of-federal-health-law-illegal-immigrants-get-care/#77d6e34c1df8)

Here's the title: Because Of Obamacare, Illegal Immigrants Get Taxpayer-Financed Care

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[ColdNoMore]

California petitions to become first state to offer ObamaCare to illegal immigrants | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/04/california-petitions-to-become-first-state-to-offer-obamacare-to-illegal-immigrants.html)

However, even if the Obama administration green-lights the waiver, the insurance plans that would be offered � California Qualified Health Plans � would not be subsidized.


:wave:

[ColdNoMore]

Please don't feel sorry for me. Here's another. I'll let you find the rest on your own since you claim to be so good at research.

Forbes Welcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/03/25/because-of-federal-health-law-illegal-immigrants-get-care/#77d6e34c1df8)

Here's the title: Because Of Obamacare, Illegal Immigrants Get Taxpayer-Financed Care


Do you even read what you link? :oops:

You still have not proved your statement that illegal immigrants are covered under Obamacare.

Can't you just admit that you're wrong and that the state is paying for the coverage...NOT the ACA? :ohdear:

[dbussone]

Do you even read what you link? :oops:



You still have not proved your statement that illegal immigrants are covered under Obamacare.



Can't you just admit that you're wrong and that the state is paying for the coverage...NOT the ACA? :ohdear:



Go back and read the first link from the Feds that I sited. It lists the classes of immigrants who can access the ACA. Included are several groups consisting of illegal immigrants.

I'm uncertain you can read, but if you can I know know you can't comprehend.

Nighty night - don't let the bed bugs bite.


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[Rockyrd]

Do you even read what you link? :oops:

You still have not proved your statement that illegal immigrants are covered under Obamacare.

Can't you just admit that you're wrong and that the state is paying for the coverage...NOT the ACA? :ohdear:

The ACA does NOT provide entry or assistance for illegal immigrants.

It does allow STATES to. ask or petition a waiver to allow more to become available.

That is what California is doing...petitioning for a waiver on the basis with more in the plans, premiums go down

[autumnspring]

you forgot Trump is the bankruptcy KING, he will have US file bankruptcy, problem solved, ha!

I believe few know the facts re: the national debt. I expect you are teasing re: TRUMP and his experience with bankruptcy.

THE FACTS WHICH CLEARLY OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW.

We have been fed that China is our largest creditor. So what the heck, we declare that we are bankrupt WHICH WE CLEARLY ARE and renegotiate the debt SHORT SALE?

THE FACTS MAKE THIS IMPOSSIBLE. First of all we owe slightly more to Japan then to China. MORE IMPORTANT, Japan and China together hold less than 20% of the national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. YOU/WE WERE FORCED TO TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT TO HOLD THE MONEY WE HAD TO PAY INTO THIS PONZI SCHEME THEY HAVE SPENT IT.

[Rockyrd]

Again, they are NOT covered and a long way from.

Why do people just come on here a simply lie ?


"insurance exchanges, but in June Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill that allowed the state to apply for a federal waiver to open Covered California to illegal immigrants living in California. The bill�s sponsor said such a waiver would allow 390,000 illegal immigrants to receive health insurance.

However, even if the Obama administration green-lights the waiver, the insurance plans that would be offered � California Qualified Health Plans � would not be subsidized."


California petitions to become first state to offer ObamaCare to illegal immigrants | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/04/california-petitions-to-become-first-state-to-offer-obamacare-to-illegal-immigrants.html)

[autumnspring]

This is a mish mash of junk.

Not sure where you compiled this from, but for example the legendary Black Panther story is so over done, you don't even hear it much unless someone buries it in a ranting post. I also might suggest you actually do some research on it before you cite it again.

You say lots of words, you call people criminals...nothing you say has any validation, thus it is just junk.

You have not addressed a single point.
The black panther,"story." is posted COMPLETE WITH PHOTOS.
The FACTS re ARES at Trump rally is also available with PHOTOS.

[Rockyrd]

[B]I believe few know the facts re: the national debt. I expect you are teasing re: TRUMP and his experience with bankruptcy.

THE FACTS WHICH CLEARLY OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW.

We have been fed that China is our largest creditor. So what the heck, we declare that we are bankrupt WHICH WE CLEARLY ARE and renegotiate the debt SHORT SALE?

THE FACTS MAKE THIS IMPOSSIBLE. First of all we owe slightly more to Japan then to China. MORE IMPORTANT, Japan and China together hold less than 20% of the national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. YOU/WE WERE FORCED TO TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT TO HOLD THE MONEY WE HAD TO PAY INTO THIS PONZI SCHEME THEY HAVE SPENT IT.

There is no conspiracy. This is all public knowledge. Depends on how it is presented.

"Intragovernmental Holdings� Nearly 30 percent of the Federal debt is owed to 230 other Federal agencies. Why would the Intragovernmental Holdings� Nearly 30 percent of the Federal debt is owed to 230 other Federal agencies. Why would the government owe money to itself? Some agencies, like the Social Security Trust Fund, take in more revenue from taxes than they need right now. Rather than stick this cash under a giant mattress, they buy U.S. Treasuries with it.

By owning Treasuries, they transfer their excess cash to the general fund, where it is spent. Of course, one day they will redeem their Treasury notes for cash. The Federal government will either need to raise taxes or issue more debt, to give the agencies the money they will need. owe money to itself? Some agencies, like the Social Security Trust Fund, take in more revenue from taxes than they need right now. Rather than stick this cash under a giant mattress, they buy U.S. Treasuries with it."

On Foreign debt......

"China owns $1.157 trillion U.S. debt. As of September 2016, it was the largest foreign holder. Japan is next, holding $1.136 trillion. Both Japan and China want to keep the value of the dollar high when compared to their currencies. That helps their exports to the United States seem more affordable, which helps their economies grow. That's why, despite China's occasional threats to sell its holdings, both countries are happy to be America's biggest foreign bankers. China replaced the United Kingdom as the second largest foreign holder on May 31, 2007. That's when it increased its holdings to $699 billion, outpacing the United Kingdom's $640 billion.

Ireland is third, holding $270 billion. The Cayman Islands is fourth, at $262 billion. Luxembourg is seventh ($227 billion), and Belgium is eleventh ($142 billion). The Bureau of International Settlements believes all three are fronts for sovereign wealth funds and hedge funds that don't want to reveal their positions.

Brazil is the fifth largest holder at $258 billion. The next largest holders are Switzerland, the UK, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and India. They each hold between $122 - $240 billion each. (Source: Foreign Holding of U.S. Treasury Securities, October 18, 2016. "Petrodollars and Global Imbalances," U.S. Treasury, February 2006.) Data is from various reports that are released at different times. Therefore, the total may not add up to $19 trillion."

NO conspiracy....you present it as a secret...it is public knowledge.

Link for the above....

Who Owns the US National Debt? How Much Is Owed? (https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124)

[Rockyrd]

You have not addressed a single point.
The black panther,"story." is posted COMPLETE WITH PHOTOS.
The FACTS re ARES at Trump rally is also available with PHOTOS.

Then link it

[ColdNoMore]

Go back and read the first link from the Feds that I sited. It lists the classes of immigrants who can access the ACA. Included are several groups consisting of illegal immigrants.

I'm uncertain you can read, but if you can I know know you can't comprehend.

Nighty night - don't let the bed bugs bite.


LEGAL immigrants ONLY.

Which is what the law has said from the beginning. :oops:

Your first link says nothing about allowing illegal immigrants, so why are you lying about what everyone can see?

Do you really think people are as dumb or gullible...as you yourself seem to be?

YOU stated that you were promised NO immigrants, which is false and now you're waffling and obfuscating...because you're too deceitful to admit that you were dead wrong. :wave:






The ACA does NOT provide entry or assistance for illegal immigrants.

Exactly.

Facts don't matter, some people just aren't intelligent enough to comprehend the truth. :ohdear:

[Rockyrd]

Would you people not be better served if you spoke to current issues facing our country. Are you not sick of this. I recall this being discussed on this forum ad nausea years ago

"On the most important day in American politics, one of Fox News�s biggest stories has been about a lone New Black Panther Party member standing outside a Philadelphia polling place.

Fox News has featured several segments today on Jerry Jackson, who was charged in 2008 for voter intimidation, although the charges against him were later dropped. Jackson was spotted outside a Philadelphia polling place Tuesday morning, and Fox News confirmed Jackson is a designated poll watcher."


Fox News obsessed with lone Black Panther - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/11/fox-news-obsessed-with-lone-black-panther-148638)

[Rockyrd]

LEGAL immigrants ONLY.

Which is what the law has said from the beginning. :oops:

Your first link says nothing about allowing illegal immigrants, so why are you lying about what everyone can see?

Do you really think people are as dumb or gullible...as you yourself seem to be?

YOU stated that you were promised NO immigrants, which is false and now you're waffling and obfuscating...because you're too deceitful to admit that you were dead wrong. :wave:







Exactly.

Facts don't matter, some people just aren't intelligent enough to comprehend the truth. :ohdear:

People simply refuse to read and allow themselves to get whipped into a frenzy by these off the wall conspiracy websites.

I recall a few years ago, posters predicting this day would come....that people will eventually be going to the National Enquirer and other sites to prove we are surrounded by UFOs.

We move in that direction.

[dbussone]

People simply refuse to read and allow themselves to get whipped into a frenzy by these off the wall conspiracy websites.



I recall a few years ago, posters predicting this day would come....that people will eventually be going to the National Enquirer and other sites to prove we are surrounded by UFOs.



We move in that direction.



Some of you read. Some of us read and understand. Personally I've not quoted a conspiracy website, unless you consider healthcare.gov one.

[Rockyrd]

Some of you read. Some of us read and understand. Personally I've not quoted a conspiracy website, unless you consider healthcare.gov one.

Were you ONE preaching how ACA covers illegals ?

[dbussone]

Were you ONE preaching how ACA covers illegals ?



You bet. Read the source(s) I sited. Many illegals are being placed in noted immigrant categories so they can be covered by the ACA. Read the news for goodness sakes.

Maybe you, ColdNoMore, and ColdNoMore2 should have a conference call to decide how to deal with your next set of inane responses.

[Rockyrd]

You bet. Read the source(s) I sited. Many illegals are being placed in noted immigrant categories so they can be covered by the ACA. Read the news for goodness sakes.

Maybe you, ColdNoMore, and ColdNoMore2 should have a conference call to decide how to deal with your next set of inane responses.

Let's be clear on this.

The ACA clearly and with great clarity forbids extension of benefits to illegal immigrants. Do you challenge that ?

A number of right wing extremists have published articles (Daily Caller for one) saying some emergency rooms make some exceptions feeling it is in their best interest financially to handle these cases.

There is a provision in the law where it allows states to ask for waivers on any provision. In California, there is a move to ask for such a waiver, but that has not happened yet.

It is a non point since Trump is going to eliminate the ACA first day in office.

Please explain what I got wrong. Thanks.

[Don Baldwin]

People simply refuse to read and allow themselves to get whipped into a frenzy by these off the wall conspiracy websites.

I recall a few years ago, posters predicting this day would come....that people will eventually be going to the National Enquirer and other sites to prove we are surrounded by UFOs.

We move in that direction.

"Mainstream" people believe there's an invisible man who lives in space who created everything and spies on all of us so he can sort us out later.

People will believe ANYTHING. The Enquirer is tame compared to the "stories" in religious texts.

Some of you read. Some of us read and understand. Personally I've not quoted a conspiracy website, unless you consider healthcare.gov one.

You DON'T consider .gov sites as questionable? I do. You believe EVERYTHING that comes out of the government? Really?

[Cedwards38]

Awww, did ole Mitch hurt your feelings? Are you still repeating those out of date liberal talking points, left over from Hillary's FAILED campaign (misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull)?

Now, you know what it feels like to be a LOSER. Hillary did NOT win. Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. So, yes you have to live with it. Everyone has opportunity in America, Obama proved that. No matter how incompetent, as Obie proved.

Dude, you can say that the majority of America can say anything they wish, but it won't matter for four years. It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do.

Fact is that TRUMP WON! If you wish to be a poor loser because you may have lost a freebie or two, fine. It's your choice. Sorry but not everyone gets a trophy for attendance in the general election. You put your support on a criminal and you got your just desserts. :cryin2:

Typical. More conservative blah, blah, blah. I know it's a complete waste of my time, but I'm going to try to respond to some of your chest thumping Neanderthalism!

Ole Mitch didn't hurt my feelings. He simply stated that the goal of the Republican Party, led by him, was to hurt the Obama presidency. Not to work together. Not to help America. But to win elections. Now he wants us to cozy up and work together.

Next, I am liberal. Proud of it. So you're wasting your time thinking that I will take that moniker as an insult. Liberals are Progressive. The opposite of progressive is regressive. Uh, that would be you. Those with liberal ideas are the only ones who have accomplished the big things in our history because they have the courage to try something new and different, and the intelligence to know that the only way to improve is to change. Unlike you, I'll cite some examples. The Emancipation Proclamation. The Voting Rights Act. The Civil Rights Movement. The Peace Corp. Women's right to vote. Universal public education. Rural electrification. And yes, the Affordable Care Act, flawed thought it might be, at least it's an attempt to address a real problem in this country. This list could go on and on, but you can Google that for yourself.

I am repeating those talking points of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, narcissism, and KKK support because they were true during the election and they are still true after the election. He said those things, so he owns those things. The appointment of Steve Bannon is a pretty clear example that he hasn't changed his mind or his personality. That doesn't go away just because the election is over. I'm sure you still think Secretary Clinton is a crook and that the ACA is ruining America, even though the election is over. Sorry fellow, but this was a pretty brainless argument.

You are correct that Secretary Clinton will not win the Electoral College selection. Too bad. But you can not deny that she received 2.5 million more votes than Trump. Sorry buddy, but that's just a fact, which are things that many Trump supporters have a hard time dealing with. Come to think of it, you probably will deny that she got more votes, but the FACTS prove otherwise. Here's a suggestion. Watch something other than FOX News occasionally to see how the majority of the American voters think.

Now I'm going to use your own logic against your argument. You stated, "It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do." However many feel the way I do, it's undeniable that less than that number feel the way you do, by about 2.5 million. So if Secretary Clinton has the support of 25%, then how much can Trump claim, maybe 23%? Maybe we can agree that all Americans should vote, but if all Americans had voted in this election do you really think Trump would have won?

Poor loser? You bet. Go ahead and enjoy your end zone touchdown dance while you can, because just like the way conservatives treated President Obama, everything that happens for the next four years is on Trump, and you can expect to hear about it every day!

[ColdNoMore]

Typical. More conservative blah, blah, blah. I know it's a complete waste of my time, but I'm going to try to respond to some of your chest thumping Neanderthalism!

Ole Mitch didn't hurt my feelings. He simply stated that the goal of the Republican Party, led by him, was to hurt the Obama presidency. Not to work together. Not to help America. But to win elections. Now he wants us to cozy up and work together.

Next, I am liberal. Proud of it. So you're wasting your time thinking that I will take that moniker as an insult. Liberals are Progressive. The opposite of progressive is regressive. Uh, that would be you. Those with liberal ideas are the only ones who have accomplished the big things in our history because they have the courage to try something new and different, and the intelligence to know that the only way to improve is to change. Unlike you, I'll cite some examples. The Emancipation Proclamation. The Voting Rights Act. The Civil Rights Movement. The Peace Corp. Women's right to vote. Universal public education. Rural electrification. And yes, the Affordable Care Act, flawed thought it might be, at least it's an attempt to address a real problem in this country. This list could go on and on, but you can Google that for yourself.

I am repeating those talking points of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, narcissism, and KKK support because they were true during the election and they are still true after the election. He said those things, so he owns those things. The appointment of Steve Bannon is a pretty clear example that he hasn't changed his mind or his personality. That doesn't go away just because the election is over. I'm sure you still think Secretary Clinton is a crook and that the ACA is ruining America, even though the election is over. Sorry fellow, but this was a pretty brainless argument.

You are correct that Secretary Clinton will not win the Electoral College selection. Too bad. But you can not deny that she received 2.5 million more votes than Trump. Sorry buddy, but that's just a fact, which are things that many Trump supporters have a hard time dealing with. Come to think of it, you probably will deny that she got more votes, but the FACTS prove otherwise. Here's a suggestion. Watch something other than FOX News occasionally to see how the majority of the American voters think.

Now I'm going to use your own logic against your argument. You stated, "It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do." However many feel the way I do, it's undeniable that less than that number feel the way you do, by about 2.5 million. So if Secretary Clinton has the support of 25%, then how much can Trump claim, maybe 23%? Maybe we can agree that all Americans should vote, but if all Americans had voted in this election do you really think Trump would have won?

Poor loser? You bet. Go ahead and enjoy your end zone touchdown dance while you can, because just like the way conservatives treated President Obama, everything that happens for the next four years is on Trump, and you can expect to hear about it every day!


Excellent...and dead on! :BigApplause:

[Chi-Town]

Typical. More conservative blah, blah, blah. I know it's a complete waste of my time, but I'm going to try to respond to some of your chest thumping Neanderthalism!

Ole Mitch didn't hurt my feelings. He simply stated that the goal of the Republican Party, led by him, was to hurt the Obama presidency. Not to work together. Not to help America. But to win elections. Now he wants us to cozy up and work together.

Next, I am liberal. Proud of it. So you're wasting your time thinking that I will take that moniker as an insult. Liberals are Progressive. The opposite of progressive is regressive. Uh, that would be you. Those with liberal ideas are the only ones who have accomplished the big things in our history because they have the courage to try something new and different, and the intelligence to know that the only way to improve is to change. Unlike you, I'll cite some examples. The Emancipation Proclamation. The Voting Rights Act. The Civil Rights Movement. The Peace Corp. Women's right to vote. Universal public education. Rural electrification. And yes, the Affordable Care Act, flawed thought it might be, at least it's an attempt to address a real problem in this country. This list could go on and on, but you can Google that for yourself.

I am repeating those talking points of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, narcissism, and KKK support because they were true during the election and they are still true after the election. He said those things, so he owns those things. The appointment of Steve Bannon is a pretty clear example that he hasn't changed his mind or his personality. That doesn't go away just because the election is over. I'm sure you still think Secretary Clinton is a crook and that the ACA is ruining America, even though the election is over. Sorry fellow, but this was a pretty brainless argument.

You are correct that Secretary Clinton will not win the Electoral College selection. Too bad. But you can not deny that she received 2.5 million more votes than Trump. Sorry buddy, but that's just a fact, which are things that many Trump supporters have a hard time dealing with. Come to think of it, you probably will deny that she got more votes, but the FACTS prove otherwise. Here's a suggestion. Watch something other than FOX News occasionally to see how the majority of the American voters think.

Now I'm going to use your own logic against your argument. You stated, "It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do." However many feel the way I do, it's undeniable that less than that number feel the way you do, by about 2.5 million. So if Secretary Clinton has the support of 25%, then how much can Trump claim, maybe 23%? Maybe we can agree that all Americans should vote, but if all Americans had voted in this election do you really think Trump would have won?

Poor loser? You bet. Go ahead and enjoy your end zone touchdown dance while you can, because just like the way conservatives treated President Obama, everything that happens for the next four years is on Trump, and you can expect to hear about it every day!
Wow, whenever I see one of MD's snippy repetitive posts your response will come to mind. It is like the closing argument that wins the case. Very well done and appreciated for its clarity.

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[MDLNB]

Well, we have heard from the ONLY three libtards on this forum. Bet their arms are sore from patting each other on the back for being so sharp and witty.

Proud of being a liberal? I am glad that some can admit to their faults. It is refreshing. Although, claiming to be progressive and then voting for Bernie the commie or Hillary that wanted more of the same, is not most reasonable folks' definition of progressive. If anything, I guess Trump would be the real progressive. But, live in your imaginary world and comfort each other after LOSING the election. You do believe you lost, right?

Poor losers are very unbecoming, but only because they are so blatantly petulant. You can try to rationalize or justify your loss, but the fact is that your side has an ANTI-American view of things and most of America does not see it your way. YES, MOST of the country. Hillary lost because the left did not turn out to vote. More blacks and Latinos voted for Trump than Romney, which also shows that more minorities are starting to wake up and realize how they have been conned by the left.

And yes, we do expect to hear from you every day. . After all, those with their hands out are likely to cry when their reservoir of freebies dries up. If you think anyone believes that you are proud to claim to be a loser or claim to be a liberal, then you are only fooling yourself. You see, you liberals need us, but we don't need you. You can't survive without us, but the left is nothing more than a bothersome burden to the right. But, we are inclusive. And believe me, when I say that we have taken a lot of cr@p from the left in the name of PC. Sorry if we don't show our appreciation for being disparaged by the so-called leader of our country for the past 8 years. At least you will not have to contend with Obama's style of divisiveness. Trump has already shown his wish to heal and repair the country's division.

It was Obama that said "Elections have consequences...and I won." Remember that.

And Chi, you have a lot of gull to suggest that other posters make "snippy" posts. Snippy one liners have been your trait from the beginning. Closing argument "wins the case?" Good luck on that, because hillary's closing argument certainly did not win her the case/ELECTION.

You LOST, so live with it. We did, for 8 years of incompetent and partisan leadership. I bet this term will be easier on you.

[billethkid]

Typical. More conservative blah, blah, blah. I know it's a complete waste of my time, but I'm going to try to respond to some of your chest thumping Neanderthalism!

Ole Mitch didn't hurt my feelings. He simply stated that the goal of the Republican Party, led by him, was to hurt the Obama presidency. Not to work together. Not to help America. But to win elections. Now he wants us to cozy up and work together.

Next, I am liberal. Proud of it. So you're wasting your time thinking that I will take that moniker as an insult. Liberals are Progressive. The opposite of progressive is regressive. Uh, that would be you. Those with liberal ideas are the only ones who have accomplished the big things in our history because they have the courage to try something new and different, and the intelligence to know that the only way to improve is to change. Unlike you, I'll cite some examples. The Emancipation Proclamation. The Voting Rights Act. The Civil Rights Movement. The Peace Corp. Women's right to vote. Universal public education. Rural electrification. And yes, the Affordable Care Act, flawed thought it might be, at least it's an attempt to address a real problem in this country. This list could go on and on, but you can Google that for yourself.

I am repeating those talking points of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, narcissism, and KKK support because they were true during the election and they are still true after the election. He said those things, so he owns those things. The appointment of Steve Bannon is a pretty clear example that he hasn't changed his mind or his personality. That doesn't go away just because the election is over. I'm sure you still think Secretary Clinton is a crook and that the ACA is ruining America, even though the election is over. Sorry fellow, but this was a pretty brainless argument.

You are correct that Secretary Clinton will not win the Electoral College selection. Too bad. But you can not deny that she received 2.5 million more votes than Trump. Sorry buddy, but that's just a fact, which are things that many Trump supporters have a hard time dealing with. Come to think of it, you probably will deny that she got more votes, but the FACTS prove otherwise. Here's a suggestion. Watch something other than FOX News occasionally to see how the majority of the American voters think.

Now I'm going to use your own logic against your argument. You stated, "It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do." However many feel the way I do, it's undeniable that less than that number feel the way you do, by about 2.5 million. So if Secretary Clinton has the support of 25%, then how much can Trump claim, maybe 23%? Maybe we can agree that all Americans should vote, but if all Americans had voted in this election do you really think Trump would have won?

Poor loser? You bet. Go ahead and enjoy your end zone touchdown dance while you can, because just like the way conservatives treated President Obama, everything that happens for the next four years is on Trump, and you can expect to hear about it every day!

You are short by four years.

Obama has set the bar so low on expectation and was still able to win a second term, therefore a non issue for Trump (or anybody else for that matter).

And we do understand we will hear from the "poor losers" including the main stream media for the entire 8 years!!

A touchdown is a touchdown no matter where or how.

[janmcn]

Let's be clear on this.

The ACA clearly and with great clarity forbids extension of benefits to illegal immigrants. Do you challenge that ?

A number of right wing extremists have published articles (Daily Caller for one) saying some emergency rooms make some exceptions feeling it is in their best interest financially to handle these cases.

There is a provision in the law where it allows states to ask for waivers on any provision. In California, there is a move to ask for such a waiver, but that has not happened yet.

It is a non point since Trump is going to eliminate the ACA first day in office.

Please explain what I got wrong. Thanks.



Spot on. Day one for Trump: repeal the ACA; privatize Medicare, social security and the VA; start rounding up 11 million illegals; start building the wall; ban all Muslims from entering the country.

Donald is going to have to miss the inaugural parade with so much on his plate.

[janmcn]

Would you people not be better served if you spoke to current issues facing our country. Are you not sick of this. I recall this being discussed on this forum ad nausea years ago

"On the most important day in American politics, one of Fox News�s biggest stories has been about a lone New Black Panther Party member standing outside a Philadelphia polling place.

Fox News has featured several segments today on Jerry Jackson, who was charged in 2008 for voter intimidation, although the charges against him were later dropped. Jackson was spotted outside a Philadelphia polling place Tuesday morning, and Fox News confirmed Jackson is a designated poll watcher."


Fox News obsessed with lone Black Panther - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/11/fox-news-obsessed-with-lone-black-panther-148638)


There is no hope once reps get something in their mind, they are like a dog with a bone. We had one poster on here (a member of the six-pack) who swore he saw the black panthers at Laurel Manor on election day.

[janmcn]

Awww, did ole Mitch hurt your feelings? Are you still repeating those out of date liberal talking points, left over from Hillary's FAILED campaign (misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull)?

Now, you know what it feels like to be a LOSER. Hillary did NOT win. Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. So, yes you have to live with it. Everyone has opportunity in America, Obama proved that. No matter how incompetent, as Obie proved.

Dude, you can say that the majority of America can say anything they wish, but it won't matter for four years. It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do.

Fact is that TRUMP WON! If you wish to be a poor loser because you may have lost a freebie or two, fine. It's your choice. Sorry but not everyone gets a trophy for attendance in the general election. You put your support on a criminal and you got your just desserts. :cryin2:


Mitch McConnell says he had one goal for Obama's first term, to make him a one-term president. One goal for four years and he failed miserably.

Obama went on to not only win re-election, but became only the sixth president in history to win back to back elections with over 50% of the vote. Eisenhower was the last pres to do this.

So now it's Sen Chuck Schumer's turn to step up to the plate...mano y mano...New Yorker vs New Yorker. First up, blocking Trump's pick for Sec of Defense by blocking the vote on the waiver.

[MDLNB]

Mitch McConnell says he had one goal for Obama's first term, to make him a one-term president. One goal for four years and he failed miserably.

Obama went on to not only win re-election, but became only the sixth president in history to win back to back elections with over 50% of the vote. Eisenhower was the last pres to do this.

So now it's Sen Chuck Schumer's turn to step up to the plate...mano y mano...New Yorker vs New Yorker. First up, blocking Trump's pick for Sec of Defense by blocking the vote on the waiver.


I agree, he did fail. It's too bad, because look at all the damage Obie has done to America. Example: YOU.

Obama won, yes. Trump won, yes. How does the percentage of electoral votes make a difference? Hillary lost, which is a step in the right direction.

Schumer is a scumbag that will undoubtedly never achieve anything more than where he is now. He has peaked, and his mouth is going to make him just as much an idiot villain as Lying Harry Reid.

If Mattis is blocked, which would be political suicide for any politician, then America will be up in arms and anyone opposing his confirmation will surely suffer the political consequences.

You on the left really want America to fail, don't you? Losing really means that much. So pathetic.

[Don Baldwin]

Typical. More conservative blah, blah, blah. I know it's a complete waste of my time, but I'm going to try to respond to some of your chest thumping Neanderthalism!

Ole Mitch didn't hurt my feelings. He simply stated that the goal of the Republican Party, led by him, was to hurt the Obama presidency. Not to work together. Not to help America. But to win elections. Now he wants us to cozy up and work together.

Next, I am liberal. Proud of it. So you're wasting your time thinking that I will take that moniker as an insult. Liberals are Progressive. The opposite of progressive is regressive. Uh, that would be you. Those with liberal ideas are the only ones who have accomplished the big things in our history because they have the courage to try something new and different, and the intelligence to know that the only way to improve is to change. Unlike you, I'll cite some examples. The Emancipation Proclamation. The Voting Rights Act. The Civil Rights Movement. The Peace Corp. Women's right to vote. Universal public education. Rural electrification. And yes, the Affordable Care Act, flawed thought it might be, at least it's an attempt to address a real problem in this country. This list could go on and on, but you can Google that for yourself.

I am repeating those talking points of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, narcissism, and KKK support because they were true during the election and they are still true after the election. He said those things, so he owns those things. The appointment of Steve Bannon is a pretty clear example that he hasn't changed his mind or his personality. That doesn't go away just because the election is over. I'm sure you still think Secretary Clinton is a crook and that the ACA is ruining America, even though the election is over. Sorry fellow, but this was a pretty brainless argument.

You are correct that Secretary Clinton will not win the Electoral College selection. Too bad. But you can not deny that she received 2.5 million more votes than Trump. Sorry buddy, but that's just a fact, which are things that many Trump supporters have a hard time dealing with. Come to think of it, you probably will deny that she got more votes, but the FACTS prove otherwise. Here's a suggestion. Watch something other than FOX News occasionally to see how the majority of the American voters think.

Now I'm going to use your own logic against your argument. You stated, "It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do." However many feel the way I do, it's undeniable that less than that number feel the way you do, by about 2.5 million. So if Secretary Clinton has the support of 25%, then how much can Trump claim, maybe 23%? Maybe we can agree that all Americans should vote, but if all Americans had voted in this election do you really think Trump would have won?

Poor loser? You bet. Go ahead and enjoy your end zone touchdown dance while you can, because just like the way conservatives treated President Obama, everything that happens for the next four years is on Trump, and you can expect to hear about it every day!

You TRIED...and failed to address the comments...as usual, you have it wrong...let me enlighten you:

The ONLY thing "progressive" about liberals is...they're PROGRESSIVELY destroying America and our culture. Infecting it with 3rd world dregs. The opposite of "progressive" in this situation is..."saving", we're trying to SAVE America and it's culture from becoming 3rd world, a Mexico II.

So...WHEN will you have the intelligence to realize that after 150 years of freedom, and 50 years of affirmative action and quotas...they're STILL hopelessly lost in a modern complex civilization? When will you ADMIT it was a failure? A noble gesture for sure...but doomed to failure because they are NOT like us...they are NOT us.

The Emancipation Proclamation, you think it "freed the slaves"? ONLY in the south, ONLY in the CSA...in the north, slavery was still legal and practiced. It was a political maneuver. Lincoln himself said we'd NEVER all get along as equals.

Voting Rights Act, sure it was great...now we have 50 million + on welfare voting themselves MORE and MORE free stuff. The minorities are becoming the majority, they will be in 30 years...what are you going to do when they decide that white people MUST be relocated back? It could happen...Hispanics are mostly native indian blood...they want their lands back.

The Civil Rights Act was the beginning of the end for America. When THEY became protected and promoted...that is when we started our long slide...from #1 to now #23. Affirmative action and quotas destroyed education and business. Busting neighborhoods destroyed culture. Replacing it with black "Thug" culture. Our cities have become poorer and more dangerous each year since the 60s. The slums have grown in violence and expanded in area.

Peace Corps? Where you go visit STONE AGE people and try to make them into modern humans? It's a complete waste of time. They're genetically 50,000 years of civilization behind us.

Ah...women voting...a HUGE mistake. Women are too emotional to choose wisely. They just are. Women are twice as likely as a man to suffer bipolar/schizophrenic disorders. Women ride an emotional roller coaster. No, it was a mistake to let emotion rule the day...to give emotions a vote.

No child left behind? The lowering of EVERY standard so "they" could "keep up"? I've seen kids with the education of an old time 6th grader graduate HS. They "know" nothing of importance but a LOT about meaningless BS. That's part of the "feminizing" of males...everything is drama now, it's feelings over facts.

Affordable care act..."we have to pass it to see what's in it"...because IF we knew...we WOULDN'T pass it. All, it does is make sure the medical community gets paid and poor people can be kept alive to collect MORE welfare. Are we idiots or what? Millions of people are leeching from us...so we send them to a doctor to cure them...so we can keep supporting them. Oh, and they hate us and aren't afraid to blame everything wrong with their lives on us.

You want to solve the REAL problems in this country? Get rid of ALL the politicians we have now...from the town level on up...they ALL must go, because the corruption starts down low.

Get rid of the 100 million Hispanics and their anchor babies that invaded us over the last 30 years. If we don't the country is LOST.

MY list can go on and on...diversity, the minority majority...IS destroying America.

Yes to BOTH. She IS a crook, they ALL are. And ACA is helping to destroy America...we can't afford to offer complete health care to 50 million people. If they're on food stamps...they're NOT paying for health insurance.

She still could...the EC does the ONLY vote that counts and it's not counted until January. But I think Trump is "one of them" and the whole "rogue" thing was a ruse. We've been fooled again. Meet the new boss...same as the old boss. Look at his choices...all pretty mainstream.

Don't watch/read ANY mainstream "news source", they're all full of propaganda...on both sides. You ARE better off with the Enquirer.

Actually, the average is 17% in all past elections. That's how many on average elect the president, that's how many votes they actually get.

I hope he does 1/10th of what he promised...but I doubt we'll see anything...just business as usual, more borrowing, more spending, and more worthless projects that will enrich a lot of people. THAT is why the big shots back BOTH horses...they win no matter who wins. I hope he DOES exactly what you hope he doesn't.

Spot on. Day one for Trump: repeal the ACA; privatize Medicare, social security and the VA; start rounding up 11 million illegals; start building the wall; ban all Muslims from entering the country.

Donald is going to have to miss the inaugural parade with so much on his plate.

More like 50 million AND their "illegal" anchor babies that number many millions too.

End ALL affirmative action and quotas.

[janmcn]

I agree, he did fail. It's too bad, because look at all the damage Obie has done to America. Example: YOU.

Obama won, yes. Trump won, yes. How does the percentage of electoral votes make a difference? Hillary lost, which is a step in the right direction.

Schumer is a scumbag that will undoubtedly never achieve anything more than where he is now. He has peaked, and his mouth is going to make him just as much an idiot villain as Lying Harry Reid.

If Mattis is blocked, which would be political suicide for any politician, then America will be up in arms and anyone opposing his confirmation will surely suffer the political consequences.

You on the left really want America to fail, don't you? Losing really means that much. So pathetic.



Rest assured that Donald J Trump will be treated with the same dignity and respect that has been shown to Barack Obama over the last eight years.

If Mattis is blocked, Trump probably has a well thought out back up plan.

[autumnspring]

As some one who said over and over that this was a con, I have tried and still am trying to support what this new President might do.

I recall saying a number of times that I felt bad for Trump supporters because I felt it all was a charade, and a business exercise for the Trump co.. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but hearing today that when Nancy Pelosi called President Elect Trump and began to discuss some women issues like child care, he simply handed the phone to his daughter.

I really hope I am wrong, and try hard each day to find reasons, but he is doing nothing to reassure me, or his supporters.

He can say whatever he wants to make himself feel macho, but we need China badly, and he cannot simply turn his back on them. He can ignore conflict of interests as he is doing (based on little said about the Dec 15 announcement), but just seems that BE step forward and two back.

"She also spoke candidly about a recent phone call with Trump. At one point, she told him she wanted to work with him to promote an agenda for women.

�Which included childcare, early childhood education and paid leave, those kind of subjects,� explained Pelosi.

When asked if Trump was responsive, Pelosi replied, �Well, he put his daughter Ivanka on the phone, who is interested. So we had a good conversation in that respect.�
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RE: NANCY PILOSI.
Did you not see her say about the 1800 pages of Obamacare-no need to READ it just sign it. A GREAT? GOVERNMENT LEADER. She actually got our then democratically controlled government to send aid to SAMOA. Samoa? Is it a major ally-is is a ally at all?
THE CONNECTION TO NANCY PILOUSY IS THAT HER HUSBAND OWNS THE MAJOR INDUSTRY ON THE ISLAND-A CANING FACTORY.
Donald Trump is a bit busy right now setting up his cabinet
having just gotten a favorable negotiated settlement with carrier. Trump has gotten IMPORTANT calls from WORLD LEADERS. Trump is working on fulfilling his promises for his first 100 days in office.
If, you recall Trumps daughter suggested how government can help families.
TRUMP DID NOT REFUSE THE CALL FROM PILOSI. TRUMP DID NOT GIVE PILOSI THE TYPICAL POLITICAL ANSWER WHICH IS I WILL LOOK INTO IT
TRUMP WAS ELECTED BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT MORE OF THE SAME.

[Rockyrd]

RE: NANCY PILOSI.
Did you not see her say about the 1800 pages of Obamacare-no need to READ it just sign it. A GREAT? GOVERNMENT LEADER. She actually got our then democratically controlled government to send aid to SAMOA. Samoa? Is it a major ally-is is a ally at all?
THE CONNECTION TO NANCY PILOUSY IS THAT HER HUSBAND OWNS THE MAJOR INDUSTRY ON THE ISLAND-A CANING FACTORY.
Donald Trump is a bit busy right now setting up his cabinet
having just gotten a favorable negotiated settlement with carrier. Trump has gotten IMPORTANT calls from WORLD LEADERS. Trump is working on fulfilling his promises for his first 100 days in office.
If, you recall Trumps daughter suggested how government can help families.
TRUMP DID NOT REFUSE THE CALL FROM PILOSI. TRUMP DID NOT GIVE PILOSI THE TYPICAL POLITICAL ANSWER WHICH IS I WILL LOOK INTO IT
TRUMP WAS ELECTED BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT MORE OF THE SAME.

Lets be clear,

My post is about a President elect of the USA on the phone with the elected minority leader of the US House, and when asked about a subject (does not matter which but was child caare) simply handed the phone to his daughter, a non elected nothing simply a member of his family to discuss.

That is what the post was about !!!

[janmcn]

Lets be clear,

My post is about a President elect of the USA on the phone with the elected minority leader of the US House, and when asked about a subject (does not matter which but was child caare) simply handed the phone to his daughter, a non elected nothing simply a member of his family to discuss.

That is what the post was about !!!


These 'non-elected nothings' seem to be running things, like the inmates running the asylum. Has there ever been another president-elect whose top political advisor is his 35 year old son-in-law, a guy whose longtime friends say is not the sharpest knife in the drawer?

It will be very interesting to see how all these pieces fit after Trump divests himself of all his investments. Will the kids and son-in-law be running the business or will they be hanging out in the oval office.

[MDLNB]

Lets be clear,

My post is about a President elect of the USA on the phone with the elected minority leader of the US House, and when asked about a subject (does not matter which but was child caare) simply handed the phone to his daughter, a non elected nothing simply a member of his family to discuss.

That is what the post was about !!!

Did you have a problem when Bill turned over health care to Hillary, another "non-elected nothing?" Find something pertinent to bit*h about, or get a life.

[Chi-Town]

Did you have a problem when Bill turned over health care to Hillary, another "non-elected nothing?" Find something pertinent to bit*h about, or get a life.
MD, you should be happier. You're getting darker and darker. (Don't worry Donny B, not in that way.


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[Cedwards38]

You TRIED...and failed to address the comments...as usual, you have it wrong...let me enlighten you:

The ONLY thing "progressive" about liberals is...they're PROGRESSIVELY destroying America and our culture. Infecting it with 3rd world dregs. The opposite of "progressive" in this situation is..."saving", we're trying to SAVE America and it's culture from becoming 3rd world, a Mexico II.

So...WHEN will you have the intelligence to realize that after 150 years of freedom, and 50 years of affirmative action and quotas...they're STILL hopelessly lost in a modern complex civilization? When will you ADMIT it was a failure? A noble gesture for sure...but doomed to failure because they are NOT like us...they are NOT us.

The Emancipation Proclamation, you think it "freed the slaves"? ONLY in the south, ONLY in the CSA...in the north, slavery was still legal and practiced. It was a political maneuver. Lincoln himself said we'd NEVER all get along as equals.

Voting Rights Act, sure it was great...now we have 50 million + on welfare voting themselves MORE and MORE free stuff. The minorities are becoming the majority, they will be in 30 years...what are you going to do when they decide that white people MUST be relocated back? It could happen...Hispanics are mostly native indian blood...they want their lands back.

The Civil Rights Act was the beginning of the end for America. When THEY became protected and promoted...that is when we started our long slide...from #1 to now #23. Affirmative action and quotas destroyed education and business. Busting neighborhoods destroyed culture. Replacing it with black "Thug" culture. Our cities have become poorer and more dangerous each year since the 60s. The slums have grown in violence and expanded in area.

Peace Corps? Where you go visit STONE AGE people and try to make them into modern humans? It's a complete waste of time. They're genetically 50,000 years of civilization behind us.

Ah...women voting...a HUGE mistake. Women are too emotional to choose wisely. They just are. Women are twice as likely as a man to suffer bipolar/schizophrenic disorders. Women ride an emotional roller coaster. No, it was a mistake to let emotion rule the day...to give emotions a vote.

No child left behind? The lowering of EVERY standard so "they" could "keep up"? I've seen kids with the education of an old time 6th grader graduate HS. They "know" nothing of importance but a LOT about meaningless BS. That's part of the "feminizing" of males...everything is drama now, it's feelings over facts.

Affordable care act..."we have to pass it to see what's in it"...because IF we knew...we WOULDN'T pass it. All, it does is make sure the medical community gets paid and poor people can be kept alive to collect MORE welfare. Are we idiots or what? Millions of people are leeching from us...so we send them to a doctor to cure them...so we can keep supporting them. Oh, and they hate us and aren't afraid to blame everything wrong with their lives on us.

You want to solve the REAL problems in this country? Get rid of ALL the politicians we have now...from the town level on up...they ALL must go, because the corruption starts down low.

Get rid of the 100 million Hispanics and their anchor babies that invaded us over the last 30 years. If we don't the country is LOST.

MY list can go on and on...diversity, the minority majority...IS destroying America.

Yes to BOTH. She IS a crook, they ALL are. And ACA is helping to destroy America...we can't afford to offer complete health care to 50 million people. If they're on food stamps...they're NOT paying for health insurance.

She still could...the EC does the ONLY vote that counts and it's not counted until January. But I think Trump is "one of them" and the whole "rogue" thing was a ruse. We've been fooled again. Meet the new boss...same as the old boss. Look at his choices...all pretty mainstream.

Don't watch/read ANY mainstream "news source", they're all full of propaganda...on both sides. You ARE better off with the Enquirer.

Actually, the average is 17% in all past elections. That's how many on average elect the president, that's how many votes they actually get.

I hope he does 1/10th of what he promised...but I doubt we'll see anything...just business as usual, more borrowing, more spending, and more worthless projects that will enrich a lot of people. THAT is why the big shots back BOTH horses...they win no matter who wins. I hope he DOES exactly what you hope he doesn't.



More like 50 million AND their "illegal" anchor babies that number many millions too.

End ALL affirmative action and quotas.

Friends and neighbors, read this post slowly and carefully. Read the bigoted hatred, with no attempt whatsoever to hide it or tone it. African Americans, read this! Women, read this! Hispanics, read this! All people who appreciate the diversity that is America, and that believes that our diversity makes us stronger, read this! Christians, read this! All who are appalled by white supremacy, read this! Is this what we can expect from Trump America? Trump voters, does this make you proud?

[jimbo2012]

Is this what we can expect from Trump America? Trump voters, does this make you proud?

THat poster never supported Trump

WTF

[Don Baldwin]

Friends and neighbors, read this post slowly and carefully. Read the bigoted hatred, with no attempt whatsoever to hide it or tone it. African Americans, read this! Women, read this! Hispanics, read this! All people who appreciate the diversity that is America, and that believes that our diversity makes us stronger, read this! Christians, read this! All who are appalled by white supremacy, read this! Is this what we can expect from Trump America? Trump voters, does this make you proud?

NO...it doesn't. "Diversity" (bringing in blacks and hispanics NEVER made ANYWHERE better. THAT is the big lie.

I see once again...disgust but NOTHING refuted...typical.

I sure HOPE we can expect this...it's about time and it's our last chance to keep America as we know it.

Go down to MLK Blvd and then come back and we'll discuss how they're just like us...only misunderstood.

This is a DISCUSSION forum...lets discuss. What was unfactual?

[AJ32162]

Friends and neighbors, read this post slowly and carefully. Read the bigoted hatred, with no attempt whatsoever to hide it or tone it. African Americans, read this! Women, read this! Hispanics, read this! All people who appreciate the diversity that is America, and that believes that our diversity makes us stronger, read this! Christians, read this! All who are appalled by white supremacy, read this! Is this what we can expect from Trump America? Trump voters, does this make you proud?

Have ever read ANY of the OP's other posts? He is NOT a Trump supporter! So stop with the Trump supporter/racist innuendo.

[Chi-Town]

Have ever read ANY of the OP's other posts? He is NOT a Trump supporter! So stop with the Trump supporter/racist innuendo.
Donny B may not be a Trump supporter, but the Trumpsters here interact freely with him. Guilty by association perhaps.


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[dbussone]

Donny B may not be a Trump supporter, but the Trumpsters here interact freely with him. Guilty by association perhaps.


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[dirtbanker]

Donny B may not be a Trump supporter, but the Trumpsters here interact freely with him. Guilty by association perhaps.

Please define "interact freely".

I am a Trump supporter. I interact with many on this forum at no charge. I even interact on here with the bull dike lesbian that has a chip on her shoulder, does that make me a gay weirdo by association?

If Trump is not going to do what he promised, the Crooked Hillary supporters should be happy. On the other hand, the Crazy Bernie supporters will never be happy (eternal cry babies).

[MDLNB]

Donny B may not be a Trump supporter, but the Trumpsters here interact freely with him. Guilty by association perhaps.


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Seek professional help. Next, you will be accusing Trump supporters of being Aliens from Mars. If you did NOT have a reading comprehension problem, you would know by now that Don does not support the D or the R and has stated that on many occasions. Many of us have chastised him on frequent occasions and have given up on him. You are an idiot if you think that just because he has the same right as you on here, that we support his view. I do not support your view or his view, so do not accuse me of being a racist.

I will just consider this lack of good judgement on your part as you being under the influence of some powerful substance.

No need to apologize to me, but you might want to apologize to others on here wishing to have a political discussion without erroneous accusations.

Don is Don, period.

[Rockyrd]

Please define "interact freely".

I am a Trump supporter. I interact with many on this forum at no charge. I even interact on here with the bull dike lesbian that has a chip on her shoulder, does that make me a gay weirdo by association?

If Trump is not going to do what he promised, the Crooked Hillary supporters should be happy. On the other hand, the Crazy Bernie supporters will never be happy (eternal cry babies).

In reading your post, short on ideas, long on name calling, I can say with no fear of contradiction.....those of you Trump supporters who are not racist at this time, would become one if Trump asked you to be one.

[dirtbanker]

In reading your post, short on ideas, long on name calling, I can say with no fear of contradiction.....those of you Trump supporters who are not racist at this time, would become one if Trump asked you to be one.



Rockface - Your posts always have a lot of "opinion" and are extremely short on ideas, super long on name calling, almost as bad as your (unt girlfriend except no emojis.

When Crazy Bernie asked you to support Crooked Hillary, you did...and lost. So here you are being the eternal cry baby, looks like my assessment is correct.

Trump has denounced racism and bigotry several times (it is not like he ever dressed as a black slave for a costume party!), he has said the gay marriage thing is of no concern to him (so you can rest easy, nobody cares what the weird 3.2% does anymore), but that is not going to quiet you down is it - SORE LOSER !

[MDLNB]

In reading your post, short on ideas, long on name calling, I can say with no fear of contradiction.....those of you Trump supporters who are not racist at this time, would become one if Trump asked you to be one.

Explain why Trump had more black and Latino votes than Romney or McCain if he is a racist.

Are you really that upset over his WINNING the election? If so, I do empathize with you. I felt the same way when Obama was elected. Only I was concerned about his socialist ideological views and proposed policies. Both concerns have been justified.

[AJ32162]

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The Clintons are known thieves, so I guess it makes you one as well - guilt by association perhaps.

[jimbo2012]

this is one Trump supporter that doesn't interact with the pig

[Taltarzac725]

this is one Trump supporter that doesn't interact with the pig

Good for you. Don B., makes me sick to my stomach.

[Rockyrd]

Explain why Trump had more black and Latino votes than Romney or McCain if he is a racist.

Are you really that upset over his WINNING the election? If so, I do empathize with you. I felt the same way when Obama was elected. Only I was concerned about his socialist ideological views and proposed policies. Both concerns have been justified.

Never upset, fact is I posted here on more than several times how I hoped all his plans succeed.

You are still on November 8th. I have moved on to governing.

You know..

You can be strong and still be honest
You can be smart and still be honest
You can push for ideas and still be honest
You can criticize and still be honest.
You can change things and still be honest.

If you folks are still at November 8th........and that is all you can talk about you fit the general sad description of a Trump follower.

[MDLNB]

Never upset, fact is I posted here on more than several times how I hoped all his plans succeed.

You are still on November 8th. I have moved on to governing.

You know..

You can be strong and still be honest
You can be smart and still be honest
You can push for ideas and still be honest
You can criticize and still be honest.
You can change things and still be honest.

If you folks are still at November 8th........and that is all you can talk about you fit the general sad description of a Trump follower.

Got it. So, by moving on you mean that instead of discrediting Trump in hopes of your flawed candidate getting elected, you now want to bit*h about Trump's every move. Perhaps his choice of tie colors offends you. Moving on in a debate or discussion means that both parties moves on. The title of the thread is related to the election of Trump. It is a leftie thread, so you might want to speak to the OP before criticizing those that post on the subject of the thread. Feel free to start a new thread.

By the way, it is NOT the right that is asking for a vote recount. Seems that it is the left that hasn't moved on.

[Rockyrd]

Got it. So, by moving on you mean that instead of discrediting Trump in hopes of your flawed candidate getting elected, you now want to bit*h about Trump's every move. Perhaps his choice of tie colors offends you. Moving on in a debate or discussion means that both parties moves on. The title of the thread is related to the election of Trump. It is a leftie thread, so you might want to speak to the OP before criticizing those that post on the subject of the thread. Feel free to start a new thread.

By the way, it is NOT the right that is asking for a vote recount. Seems that it is the left that hasn't moved on.

You need a reading and comprehension course.

I have never posted one single post on vote recounts..EVER.

I believe that the system is NOT rigged, and when this happens for the most part it is political shrapnel. Had Trump kept his yap shut about it, it would not receive the coverage it gets.

But you are wrong in labeling me relative to vote counts. With folks like you it always seems that way.

On your other stupid assertion.

Most periods of transition are done professionally and seamless. Done with respect for current Presudent, voters, etc. most news is about the selections for cabinet posts.

Mr Trump is the one creating news with his unsolicited tweets, etc. Of course, he is above taking questions so he just stirs the pot and you people defend his every move...even his involvement with FAKE news, conspiracy theories, disreagard for concern on his personal foreign interests, etc.

No...I have said, and since you apparently have no way to organize your thoughts...I support many if the things he proposes, and always have.

But more important to me, and for good reason...is honesty and integrity, and each day that passes he appears to act like an elected king instead of Presudent.

Shaking up Washington or systems does not require meanness or dishonesty. It does not allow for your appointees to be dishonest (see Flynn etc.) without your agreement. A presidency founded on lying, false news and conspiracy tainted with meanness is what he is showing, and so yes...that I will criticize

[janmcn]

Explain why Trump had more black and Latino votes than Romney or McCain if he is a racist.

Are you really that upset over his WINNING the election? If so, I do empathize with you. I felt the same way when Obama was elected. Only I was concerned about his socialist ideological views and proposed policies. Both concerns have been justified.


Very simple explanation, both McCain and Romney ran against Barack Obama, who got like 95% of the black vote both times.

[MDLNB]

You need a reading and comprehension course.

I have never posted one single post on vote recounts..EVER.

I believe that the system is NOT rigged, and when this happens for the most part it is political shrapnel. Had Trump kept his yap shut about it, it would not receive the coverage it gets.

But you are wrong in labeling me relative to vote counts. With folks like you it always seems that way.

On your other stupid assertion.

Most periods of transition are done professionally and seamless. Done with respect for current Presudent, voters, etc. most news is about the selections for cabinet posts.

Mr Trump is the one creating news with his unsolicited tweets, etc. Of course, he is above taking questions so he just stirs the pot and you people defend his every move...even his involvement with FAKE news, conspiracy theories, disreagard for concern on his personal foreign interests, etc.

No...I have said, and since you apparently have no way to organize your thoughts...I support many if the things he proposes, and always have.

But more important to me, and for good reason...is honesty and integrity, and each day that passes he appears to act like an elected king instead of Presudent.

Shaking up Washington or systems does not require meanness or dishonesty. It does not allow for your appointees to be dishonest (see Flynn etc.) without your agreement. A presidency founded on lying, false news and conspiracy tainted with meanness is what he is showing, and so yes...that I will criticize

Did I make a statement that you DID say something regarding vote recount? NO, I didn't. In case it is that you have a reading comprehension problem, or in case I did not make it clear enough for you, I gave you an example of "moving on." Did you not bring up "moving on?" Yes, you did.

Please don't try to use the "king" idea association with Trump, when your Obummer was the worst and perfect example of what you are accusing Trump of being. Remember all the things Obie has said against the Republicans over the past 8 years, and how he told them to take the "back seat?" And who was it that refused to meet with the Republicans in congress until almost shamed into it? And lets not forget how ObummerCare was shoved down our throats without a single Republican vote. And how many times has Obie produced E.O.s that the supreme court said were not constitutional?

I guarantee that Trump will be more bipartisan than any president since Reagan. Trump is already trying to mend fences that Obie and his cohorts, Reid and Pelosi tore down. He's even considering a good candidate for a cabinet position in his administration, Joe Manchin(D) from WV. An excellent choice for any of many positions.

So, I will attempt to be more clear in the future so that your eyes don't bleed from your misconception. I will take the blame for your inability for not understanding the correlation in my post regarding your term "moving on" to the left's need for a vote recount.

At any rate, have a great day.

[MDLNB]

Very simple explanation, both McCain and Romney ran against Barack Obama, who got like 95% of the black vote both times.

I concede that point. That is a reasonable consideration. On the other hand, Trump has NEVER been accused of being a racist until now.

[Rockyrd]

Did I make a statement that you DID say something regarding vote recount? NO, I didn't. In case it is that you have a reading comprehension problem, or in case I did not make it clear enough for you, I gave you an example of "moving on." Did you not bring up "moving on?" Yes, you did.

Please don't try to use the "king" idea association with Trump, when your Obummer was the worst and perfect example of what you are accusing Trump of being. Remember all the things Obie has said against the Republicans over the past 8 years, and how he told them to take the "back seat?" And who was it that refused to meet with the Republicans in congress until almost shamed into it? And lets not forget how ObummerCare was shoved down our throats without a single Republican vote. And how many times has Obie produced E.O.s that the supreme court said were not constitutional?

I guarantee that Trump will be more bipartisan than any president since Reagan. Trump is already trying to mend fences that Obie and his cohorts, Reid and Pelosi tore down. He's even considering a good candidate for a cabinet position in his administration, Joe Manchin(D) from WV. An excellent choice for any of many positions.

So, I will attempt to be more clear in the future so that your eyes don't bleed from your misconception. I will take the blame for your inability for not understanding the correlation in my post regarding your term "moving on" to the left's need for a vote recount.

At any rate, have a great day.

PLEASE...serious question and please respond seriously.

Why do you assume that anyone who is against Trump, not policy wise, but the lying and immaturity is automatically for Obama and Clinton ?

I can assure you....I was a very loud foe of Obama and Clinton and still am.

I simply believe in honesty and integrity.

Just WHY do you make such assumptions ?

[Cedwards38]

Very simple explanation, both McCain and Romney ran against Barack Obama, who got like 95% of the black vote both times.

:boom: Thank you!

[Cedwards38]

I concede that point. That is a reasonable consideration. On the other hand, Trump has NEVER been accused of being a racist until now.

Trump was accused of being a racist in a lawsuit he settled in New York because he discriminated against minorities, especially African Americans, in renting. Oh, those pesky facts.

Trump's housing discrimination lawsuit ranks among largest in U.S. history - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/09/trump-housing-discrimination-largest-in-history-228741)

[Rockyrd]

Trump was accused of being a racist in a lawsuit he settled in New York because he discriminated against minorities, especially African Americans, in renting. Oh, those pesky facts.

Trump's housing discrimination lawsuit ranks among largest in U.S. history - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/09/trump-housing-discrimination-largest-in-history-228741)

In addition to his abhorrent, still discussed behavior with the Central Park case.

Oh he HAS a long history

[MDLNB]

Trump was accused of being a racist in a lawsuit he settled in New York because he discriminated against minorities, especially African Americans, in renting. Oh, those pesky facts.

Trump's housing discrimination lawsuit ranks among largest in U.S. history - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/09/trump-housing-discrimination-largest-in-history-228741)

That doesn't make him a racist. It makes him a good businessman. :pepper2:

[Cedwards38]

Have ever read ANY of the OP's other posts? He is NOT a Trump supporter! So stop with the Trump supporter/racist innuendo.

Well, it's not innuendo. It's a direct accusation! If you vote for someone who makes racist statements, with a history of being a racist, and who is supported by the KKK, and you know these things before you vote, then you are a racist!

[MDLNB]

PLEASE...serious question and please respond seriously.

Why do you assume that anyone who is against Trump, not policy wise, but the lying and immaturity is automatically for Obama and Clinton ?

I can assure you....I was a very loud foe of Obama and Clinton and still am.

I simply believe in honesty and integrity.

Just WHY do you make such assumptions ?

Wow, are you sensitive today Rocky. Next thing you are going to say is that you voted for Trump. Don't bother. I'm going to go grab me some lunch.
Have a great day, even if it is raining.

[Cedwards38]

That doesn't make him a racist. It makes him a good businessman. :pepper2:

No, it makes him a lawbreaker. You just insulted all the good businesspersons in America with that statement.:pepper2:

[Rockyrd]

That doesn't make him a racist. It makes him a good businessman. :pepper2:

This is business ?...only none of his business until he made it such. PURE racism

Donald Trump’s doubling down on the Central Park Five reflects a bigger problem - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/08/donald-trumps-doubling-down-on-the-central-park-five-reflects-a-bigger-problem/?utm_term=.8f2f3fdeb664)

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/opinion/why-trump-doubled-down-on-the-central-park-five.html?_r=0

[Rockyrd]

Wow, are you sensitive today Rocky. Next thing you are going to say is that you voted for Trump. Don't bother. I'm going to go grab me some lunch.
Have a great day, even if it is raining.

You seem to have an aversion to answering questions

[AJ32162]

Well, it's not innuendo. It's a direct accusation! If you vote for someone who makes racist statements, with a history of being a racist, and who is supported by the KKK, and you know these things before you vote, then you are a racist!


So, by your logic, since you voted for a crook and a liar (Hillary), then you are a crook and a liar!

[Rockyrd]

So, by your logic, since you voted for a crook and a liar (Hillary), then you are a crook and a liar!

I am appalled.

How can so many, mostly Trump supporters, KNOW AS A FACT, who everyone else voted for.

Those same assumptions about YOU during the campaign sent all into a real tizzy...still not forgotten.

[jimbo2012]

Trump was accused of being a racist in a lawsuit he settled in New York because he discriminated against minorities, especially African Americans, in renting. Oh, those pesky facts.

Trump's housing discrimination lawsuit ranks among largest in U.S. history - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/09/trump-housing-discrimination-largest-in-history-228741)

How many years ago?????

Never found guilty, move on talk about today's issues this is not

[Rockyrd]

So, by your logic, since you voted for a crook and a liar (Hillary), then you are a crook and a liar!

I cannot and will not defend Hillary Clinton, but the election was held almost a month ago, and still we hear the smart ass remarks about her being a crook.

I am not the first to call you on it, and if past is prologue, expect another smartass remark, but for the record. Trump has been accused of more, been in court more...what crime, NOT IN YOUR OPINION, BUT FACTUALLY has she been convicted of ?

That is the pre requisite for being called a crook.

Just applying the same logic used on here today that says Trump being the single largest defendant EVER in the history of our country relative to racial discrimination is said to be "good business". No comment as of yet on his other non business racial actions.

Good business being defined as practicing unlawfully sort of escapes me.

[Rockyrd]

I know await the predictable chest thumping.....we won posts or cute little pics.

Someday, you will realize the election is over...you DID win, but that is simply the beginnings. Now for the hard work..governing and leading

[Cedwards38]

So, by your logic, since you voted for a crook and a liar (Hillary), then you are a crook and a liar!

I didn't say I voted for Clinton, but I'll say it now. I voted for Clinton rather than for a racist. And the difference is that the courts have found Trump to be a racist. Just because you think Clinton is a crook and a liar doesn't make her one. Can you tell me an instance where the courts have convicted, or even charged (not accused by some partisan, but actually charged) Hillary Clinton with a crime? She's been investigated by Congress and the FBI, and no charges were ever filed. Just because the Limbaughs, the FOX pundits, the Tomi Lehrens and the other conservatives who make up lies in order to make money doesn't make the garbage they spew the truth!

[AJ32162]

I didn't say I voted for Clinton, but I'll say it now. I voted for Clinton rather than for a racist. And the difference is that the courts have found Trump to be a racist. Just because you think Clinton is a crook and a liar doesn't make her one. Can you tell me an instance where the courts have convicted, or even charged (not accused by some partisan, but actually charged) Hillary Clinton with a crime? She's been investigated by Congress and the FBI, and no charges were ever filed. Just because the Limbaughs, the FOX pundits, the Tomi Lehrens and the other conservatives who make up lies in order to make money doesn't make the garbage they spew the truth!

Since when did it become a crime to be a racist?

[Rockyrd]

Since when did it become a crime to be a racist?

When your actions violate Federal law, as he did.

[larbud]

You libturds are pitiful excuses for humanity...

[AJ32162]

When your actions violate Federal law, as he did.

Was Trump found guilty of your charge of racism?

[jimbo2012]

When your actions violate Federal law, as he did.


Really how long was he in jail?

[AJ32162]

I didn't say I voted for Clinton, but I'll say it now. I voted for Clinton rather than for a racist. And the difference is that the courts have found Trump to be a racist. Just because you think Clinton is a crook and a liar doesn't make her one. Can you tell me an instance where the courts have convicted, or even charged (not accused by some partisan, but actually charged) Hillary Clinton with a crime? She's been investigated by Congress and the FBI, and no charges were ever filed. Just because the Limbaughs, the FOX pundits, the Tomi Lehrens and the other conservatives who make up lies in order to make money doesn't make the garbage they spew the truth!

James Comey said Hillary was a liar, that's good enough for me.

[Rockyrd]

Really how long was he in jail?

He settled as the single largest defendant ever in this type case.

Good question as I have been wondering about Clinton in that regard also

[AJ32162]

He settled as the single largest defendant ever in this type case.

Good question as I have been wondering about Clinton in that regard also

Oh, so he was never FOUND to be guilty of the charges against him.

[jimbo2012]

correct from what I read

[jimbo2012]

Good question as I have been wondering about Clinton in that regard also

This crook lied to the FBI and the over-site committee including perjury.

That's guilty in anyway you look at it

[GrandmaP]

And Why exactly do we need to take orders from China?

[Cedwards38]

You libturds are pitiful excuses for humanity...

Wow, now there is an eloquent, intelligent, powerful, and persuasive argument. You sure put us in our place with that one. It must be that degree from Trump University. Thanks for your opinion, but pardon me if I don't care one whit about your opinion of us. Frankly, I find it amusing that supporters of a racist, xenophobic, misogynist, narcissistic carnival barker wants to criticize our humanity!

[Cedwards38]

This crook lied to the FBI and the over-site committee including perjury.

That's guilty in anyway you look at it

I suppose you have proof of those statements about her lying, or is that just another example of your wishful thinking and made up truth? I guess asking for facts and truth would push you way beyond your capability.

[Cedwards38]

Really how long was he in jail?

Not all criminals are placed in jail, especially white men with money and influence. Some pay huge fines, like Trump did on multiple occasions.

[jimbo2012]

I suppose you have proof of those statements about her lying, or is that just another example of your wishful thinking and made up truth? I guess asking for facts and truth would push you way beyond your capability.

If you need to learn how to use google I charge $90 an hour.

Or you can simply bet me $1,000 I'm wrong

[Cedwards38]

If you need to learn how to use google I charge $90 an hour.

Or you can simply bet me $1,000 I'm wrong

Yeah, because we all know that everything on the internet is the truth, right? And that little nugget is for free. But go ahead and list on here one link to any responsible news source that shows that Hillary Clinton has ever broken a law. And let me just clarify that Limbaugh, Lehren, Facebook posts from morons, and Breitbart are not responsible news sources.

I'm waiting!

[billethkid]

Not all criminals are placed in jail, especially white men with money and influence. Some pay huge fines, like Trump did on multiple occasions.

For clarity let us also recognize that what ever "deal" was made was not against any law(s).

There are laws/rules/penalties/etc available for those who can afford it and choose to do so.

As our Clinton supporters would remind us one is not a criminal unless they are proven guilty or charged.

Therefore, like Clinton, one can continue to conduct criminal acts, and as long as she is not charged all is OK!!!....BS!

[AJ32162]

I suppose you have proof of those statements about her lying, or is that just another example of your wishful thinking and made up truth? I guess asking for facts and truth would push you way beyond your capability.


Did you watch James Comey's testimony before congress? He stated during that testimony that several of Hillary's statements were not truthful. In plain speak, SHE LIED!

[jimbo2012]

Ok I'll give you one

Now this is congress so you know it's fake right it was all over the news and you don't know this.

Trey Gowdy GRILLS James Comey On Hillary Clinton Emails 7/7/16 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/bC1Mc6-RDyQ?t=6)

[Cedwards38]

For clarity let us also recognize that what ever "deal" was made was not against any law(s).

There are laws/rules/penalties/etc available for those who can afford it and choose to do so.

As our Clinton supporters would remind us one is not a criminal unless they are proven guilty or charged.

Therefore, like Clinton, one can continue to conduct criminal acts, and as long as she is not charged all is OK!!!....BS!

Well, just for the record, fraud, tax evasion, and civil right violations are LAW!

[AJ32162]

Ok I'll give you one

Now this is congress so you know it's fake right it was all over the news and you don't know this.

Trey Gowdy GRILLS James Comey On Hillary Clinton Emails 7/7/16 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/bC1Mc6-RDyQ?t=6)

Some people are only let out of their cages a few times each year so you really can't expect them to be cognizant of what is happening in the world around them.

[Cedwards38]

Ok I'll give you one

Now this is congress so you know it's fake right it was all over the news and you don't know this.

Trey Gowdy GRILLS James Comey On Hillary Clinton Emails 7/7/16 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/bC1Mc6-RDyQ?t=6)

Thanks for the link from Grandstand Gowdy, but what I said was, "But go ahead and list on here one link to any responsible news source that shows that Hillary Clinton has ever broken a law." Be sure and let me know when Clinton is charged and/or indicted rather than flamed by a partisan hack looking to make headlines.

[Chi-Town]

You libturds are pitiful excuses for humanity...
LBud......you are .......wait, John Wayne has something to say:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161206/b5ee4196c87636edfb773fe6f6dfba72.jpg

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[jimbo2012]

Thanks for the link from Grandstand Gowdy, but what I said was, "But go ahead and list on here one link to any responsible news source that shows that Hillary Clinton has ever broken a law." Be sure and let me know when Clinton is charged and/or indicted rather than flamed by a partisan hack looking to make headlines.

you're a waste of my time, can't learn you nuttin:read:

[Cedwards38]

you're a waste of my time, can't learn you nuttin:read:

Only if you can back it up with the truth!

[janmcn]

Wow, now there is an eloquent, intelligent, powerful, and persuasive argument. You sure put us in our place with that one. It must be that degree from Trump University. Thanks for your opinion, but pardon me if I don't care one whit about your opinion of us. Frankly, I find it amusing that supporters of a racist, xenophobic, misogynist, narcissistic carnival barker wants to criticize our humanity!


You left out serial adulterer, sexual predator, and psychopathic liar. Can you imagine how far Obama would have gotten if he had been married three times and had five children to three different women? He would have been called every name in the book.

[AJ32162]

You left out serial adulterer, sexual predator, and psychopathic liar. Can you imagine how far Obama would have gotten if he had been married three times and had five children to three different women? He would have been called every name in the book.

The same could be said of many black men - except for the married part. I don't think it would have been a problem for Obama supporters.

[larbud]

Lets just say some people hide things and some don't give a damn what you think of them..

[larbud]

LBud......you are .......wait, John Wayne has something to say:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161206/b5ee4196c87636edfb773fe6f6dfba72.jpg

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So you admit your stupid?? Bravo..

[Chi-Town]

The same could be said of many black men - except for the married part. I don't think it would have been a problem for Obama supporters.
Is that you, Donny B? Oh my! It's AJ.

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[Cedwards38]

I've already admitted iin this thread that I am a Liberal Democrat who voted for Hillary Clinton. Not sorry. Would do it again.

But I have lots of very fine Conservative Republican friends here in The Villages. I party with them. I golf with them. I play softball with them. And I like them a lot. We don't talk much politics, but we do a little. We are able to do that without insulting each other. I call them out. They call me out. We don't have to completely agree to be completely friends!

My question for Conservative Republicans reading this thread is, "How do you react to the obvious racism expressed by some of the posts in this thread?" Are you disturbed by it? Do you agree with it? Does it reflect your own views of race? Do you think it reflects the views of the Trump White House?

I'm not trying to throw gasoline on the fire. I really want to know. Frankly, I'm appalled by some of the comments in this thread about African Americans, women, Hispanics, and persons with progressive political leanings. Do those comments accurately reflect the prevailing sentiment of the Republican party in America, or in The Villages? And if so, are you ok with that?

Thanks in advance for your honest response.

[Allegiance]

I've already admitted iin this thread that I am a Liberal Democrat who voted for Hillary Clinton. Not sorry. Would do it again.

But I have lots of very fine Conservative Republican friends here in The Villages. I party with them. I golf with them. I play softball with them. And I like them a lot. We don't talk much politics, but we do a little. We are able to do that without insulting each other. I call them out. They call me out. We don't have to completely agree to be completely friends!

My question for Conservative Republicans reading this thread is, "How do you react to the obvious racism expressed by some of the posts in this thread?" Are you disturbed by it? Do you agree with it? Does it reflect your own views of race? Do you think it reflects the views of the Trump White House?

I'm not trying to throw gasoline on the fire. I really want to know. Frankly, I'm appalled by some of the comments in this thread about African Americans, women, Hispanics, and persons with progressive political leanings. Do those comments accurately reflect the prevailing sentiment of the Republican party in America, or in The Villages? And if so, are you ok with that?

Thanks in advance for your honest response.
Are you offended by the personal insults put out by your liberals on this board? It appears that you have been brainwashed to see only gop hate.

The liberal definition of racism is in most cases clearly wrong.

If you eliminate the the entitlement vote, your candidate suffered the worst loss in presidential history, to an opponent who had many flaws.

Yet, like most brainwashed liberals you are trying to divert the attention to your falsely conceived racism.

Trump voters are not racist, they just want law and order.

Law and order on the borders, in the streets and in politics.

Obama and Clinton both represented and perpetuated crime and disorder personally and politically.

Stop being brainwashed, the mainstream media has been proven for what it is. Worthless brainwashing propaganda. Ignore it and think for yourself.

Start by looking up the true definition of racism.

And a big thanks to your buddy that destroyed the learning center, you must be proud of him.

[jimbo2012]

My question for Conservative Republicans reading this thread is, "How do you react to the obvious racism expressed by some of the posts in this thread?" Are you disturbed by it? Do you agree with it? Does it reflect your own views of race? Do you think it reflects the views of the Trump White House?



There's one poster that description fits Don B, he's a pig that's scared of blacks totally intimidated pure fear.

Has little to do with WH

[Cedwards38]

Are you offended by the personal insults put out by your liberals on this board? It appears that you have been brainwashed to see only gop hate.

The liberal definition of racism is in most cases clearly wrong.

If you eliminate the the entitlement vote, your candidate suffered the worst loss in presidential history, to an opponent who had many flaws.

Yet, like most brainwashed liberals you are trying to divert the attention to your falsely conceived racism.

Trump voters are not racist, they just want law and order.

Law and order on the borders, in the streets and in politics.

Obama and Clinton both represented and perpetuated crime and disorder personally and politically.

Stop being brainwashed, the mainstream media has been proven for what it is. Worthless brainwashing propaganda. Ignore it and think for yourself.

Start by looking up the true definition of racism.

And a big thanks to your buddy that destroyed the learning center, you must be proud of him.

Thank you for your response.

[Cedwards38]

There's one poster that description fits Don B, he's a pig that's scared of blacks totally intimidated pure fear.

Has little to do with WH

Thank you. I'm really glad to know that that is the case.

[Allegiance]

I'll take that as a "yes, you agree with the comments in this thread, and they accurately reflect the views of the Party."
You will view anything you read, see and experience with a brainwashed mind, I feel sorry for you. You need to acknowledge that you have been successfully brainwashed before you can be free.

I notice you did not answer my question. These next 8 years will continue to be painful for you if you don't move on.

I can cure you, repeat this 1000 times..

"hillary is, was and always will be a career criminal, although I voted for her I am truly happy that the unbrainwashed level headed law abiding citizens prevailed"

OK, 999 to go.

GOD BLESS YOU AS YOU SEEK YOUR CURE.

"Party" what party?

The Donald did not have a party, he won in spite of the Republican party.

The majority of voters for trump were independent and registered Democrats, many of whom changed to Republicans.

Your brainwashed liberal mind likes to lump people into groups to control them, read the wikileaks like I did, them make up your own mind and learn to judge people individually.

You throw out a ridiculous comment to bait Trump supporters to give an answer that you will misrepresent to fit your brainwashed mind.

Stop looking for excuses for Hillarys loss, IT WAS HER, she was the reason. Move on, it will feel better.

There is no party, there is no systematic racism by Trump supporters. If you want to see racism, read Obama's speeches for the last 8 years and read the WIKILEAKS!

Proud independent individual Americans voted Trump President, despite your PARTY and it's attempt to create RACISM.

The truth is not that hard to see, look within.

[billethkid]

Where do these whoppers fit in the who hood winked who thread?

VIDEO: Few troops clap for Obama during final national security speech - The American MirrorThe American Mirror (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-troops-clap-obama-last-national-security-speech/)

[AJ32162]

Is that you, Donny B? Oh my! It's AJ.

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Chi, is that you with your irrelevant one-liners?

[MDLNB]

Well, it's not innuendo. It's a direct accusation! If you vote for someone who makes racist statements, with a history of being a racist, and who is supported by the KKK, and you know these things before you vote, then you are a racist!

By your definition, Hillary is a communist because she is supported by George Soros. And you might be an @sshole since you are supported and speak via your @sshole.

[janmcn]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.



Kentuckians love their health care plan, Kynect. Unfortunately they were too stupid to realize that Kynect is actually Obamacare, and they are bawling their eyes out after their Senator McConnell promised to repeal the health care plan they love on Jan 21.

These same voters voted heavily for Trump. McConnell will put them out by the curb with the rest of the garbage. Let them eat cake.

[Chi-Town]

So you admit your stupid?? Bravo..
LBud, it's you're, not your. I rest my case.

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[Chi-Town]

Where do these whoppers fit in the who hood winked who thread?

VIDEO: Few troops clap for Obama during final national security speech - The American MirrorThe American Mirror (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-troops-clap-obama-last-national-security-speech/)
BTK, read the comments below the article. They'll give you a chubby.

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[Rockyrd]

Does not matter the party. Democrat, liberal, Republican, conservative.

All the same. Nobody confronts anything honestly and up front.

As a conservative Republican who supports this appointee, I applaud. As an American who was looking for change, I am sad. Business as usual.


"Republicans are betting that Senate Democrats won't shut the government down over a GOP effort to speed the confirmation of retired Gen. James Mattis as Donald Trump's defense secretary.

GOP leaders slipped in a provision into a must-pass government funding bill Tuesday that would streamline confirmation of Mattis next year by fast-tracking legislation to grant him a waiver to serve in the Cabinet. Mattis needs a special exception passed by Congress to allow him to skirt a requirement that ex-military officials are out of service for seven years before they can become secretary of defense; Mattis left the military in 2013.

In doing so, Republicans are ignoring Democrats' pointed opposition. In a series of interviews they pushed back against GOP plans to fast-track Mattis."

Republicans force Mattis issue in must-pass spending bill - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/republicans-force-mattis-issue-in-must-pass-spending-bill-232287)

[graciegirl]

Gentlemen.

The man is not a seated president yet.

Patience, Grasshoppers.


G.G. You guessed. I know....:1rotfl:

[billethkid]

Obama made the eyebrow-raising declaration that, �We should take great pride in the progress we�ve made over the last eight years. No foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland.�

And he boasts without firing a shot!!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[janmcn]

Does not matter the party. Democrat, liberal, Republican, conservative.

All the same. Nobody confronts anything honestly and up front.

As a conservative Republican who supports this appointee, I applaud. As an American who was looking for change, I am sad. Business as usual.


"Republicans are betting that Senate Democrats won't shut the government down over a GOP effort to speed the confirmation of retired Gen. James Mattis as Donald Trump's defense secretary.

GOP leaders slipped in a provision into a must-pass government funding bill Tuesday that would streamline confirmation of Mattis next year by fast-tracking legislation to grant him a waiver to serve in the Cabinet. Mattis needs a special exception passed by Congress to allow him to skirt a requirement that ex-military officials are out of service for seven years before they can become secretary of defense; Mattis left the military in 2013.

In doing so, Republicans are ignoring Democrats' pointed opposition. In a series of interviews they pushed back against GOP plans to fast-track Mattis."

Republicans force Mattis issue in must-pass spending bill - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/republicans-force-mattis-issue-in-must-pass-spending-bill-232287)


President Obama should surprise them and veto this bill, shutting down the government a week before Christmas. When seniors don't get their social security checks this month, that should get somebodies attention.

[Villagesperson]

President Obama should surprise them and veto this bill, shutting down the government a week before Christmas. When seniors don't get their social security checks this month, that should get somebodies attention.

Certainly if you are a democrat, you see it this way.

Geez...we have been through this before with BOTH parties. Is it not time to stop playing chicken with our future.

Your comments are based on what I assume are your political views only.

[Cedwards38]

By your definition, Hillary is a communist because she is supported by George Soros. And you might be an @sshole since you are supported and speak via your @sshole.

OK, where do I start? First, you can't cherry pick from my statement. It must be read as a whole as it is written. Hillary Clinton made no statements herself suggesting that she is a Communist. Second, George Soros is a billionaire, like Trump. Can you explain to me how a Communist can also be a billionaire capitalist? I am really looking forward to you trying to do that. Third, you suggest that I might be an @sshole and that I speak with my @sshole. On the second part I wish I could because if I could speak that way people would pay to watch it and I'd also be a billionaire. Now since I am clearly not an anus, since an anus can not type or think, then I must assume that you are using the second definition of the word which is "an irritating or contemptible person." I must plead guilty to being irritating or contemptible to all persons who either support or practice racism. Please know that I don't intend to change and I don't apologize, but thank you for the critique. I suppose name calling is all that is left to one who really has no logical basis for an argument.

[dirtbanker]

Does not matter the party. Democrat, liberal, Republican, conservative.

All the same. Nobody confronts anything honestly and up front.

As a conservative Republican who supports this appointee, I applaud. As an American who was looking for change, I am sad. Business as usual.


"Republicans are betting that Senate Democrats won't shut the government down over a GOP effort to speed the confirmation of retired Gen. James Mattis as Donald Trump's defense secretary.

GOP leaders slipped in a provision into a must-pass government funding bill Tuesday that would streamline confirmation of Mattis next year by fast-tracking legislation to grant him a waiver to serve in the Cabinet. Mattis needs a special exception passed by Congress to allow him to skirt a requirement that ex-military officials are out of service for seven years before they can become secretary of defense; Mattis left the military in 2013.

In doing so, Republicans are ignoring Democrats' pointed opposition. In a series of interviews they pushed back against GOP plans to fast-track Mattis."

Republicans force Mattis issue in must-pass spending bill - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/republicans-force-mattis-issue-in-must-pass-spending-bill-232287)

Hey Rockface - your not "a conservative Republican who supports this appointee". Your a Crazy Bernie supporter that changed over to Crooked Hillary supporter and LOST...how is the pecker puffer son? Is he getting anything good for Xmas?

[dirtbanker]

Is he getting anything good for Xmas?

Some gerbils with manicured nails maybe???

[Rockyrd]

Hey Rockface - your not "a conservative Republican who supports this appointee". Your a Crazy Bernie supporter that changed over to Crooked Hillary supporter and LOST...how is the pecker puffer son? Is he getting anything good for Xmas?

Amazing how some so easily manifest their total inability to discuss subjects of substance.

My fellow poster...I was on this political forum (under another screen name) in early 2008.....could be even 2007..not sure when this forum of politics began. Interesting, it began as a forum set up to discuss a proposal to open a horse track out on 301 and the forum owner liked the idea of people being able to discuss world events.

In those days, posters actually talked about issues and did it with respect. When you came to that forum, you voiced your opinion, did your best to validate it with links or information and everyone enjoyed. A few had to take it to another level with the insults and total lack of anything of substance tipi say.

I say that now because, it is ironic. I had a reputation as the ultra conservative poster...the poster who just did not understand Barrack Obama, and NOW I have not changed one iota. Then, and now, character and honesty was important to me.

Meantime a few on here who may have been around in the early days..although I don't really know for sure, they simply slid into an abyss of ULTR?..NOT conservatism, because a true conservative is just not mean like they are today.

Posts like yours would be met with rejection by that forum and you would be bounced.

I know many posters recall those days....I hope as I truely take my leave of what has become a full fledged insane asylum filled with such hate.

Yes, I opposed Obama...did it strongly, and still do, but at least he is a good man with character. I violently disagree with most of his policies. I lead the charge on being anti Obamacare.

Now you insult me.

If you think you are a conservative because you hate Obama, or hate Clinton..understand something....my conservative values push me to object to a lot, but never to hate.

If you think you are a conservative because you support a liar, a serial cheater and so much more...my conservative values repel his character.

I leave this place because those of you who are simply vile human beings who do not have the ability to discuss any issue without hate are NOT conservatives..you have moved to the extreme and are so filled with hate it has consumed you.

I choose not to engage any longer, you are insulting in even suggesting you are conservative or have values,.

I apologize but your post set me over the edge. Some of the hypocritical demeaning posts, some aimed at me are beyond anything reasonable.

For you old timers, I was BUCCO and am still a proud conservative, and suppose I join the club of those who will be admonished.

Just cannot stand being called names and people who have NO values telling me what a conservative is.

Donald Trump is no conservative and you will all see that develop. He does not qualify as he has no morals. Can he change..maybe..but I doubt it.

Enjoy making the immature remarks aimed at me. I shared my real user name to allow those who attacked me frequently in the past for being conservative to see that I really can see both sides ��

I wrote this because I am tired of having my values questioned by people who lie, support lying, support dissemination of FAKE news, are obviously filled with hate and blame the current President for being filled with hate. I suspect these people who blame the media, the other party and everyone they can have reasons. I can never allow myself to stoop as low and refuse to defend my real conservative values to posters who don't even know the meaning of truth and values.

[MDLNB]

Amazing how some so easily manifest their total inability to discuss subjects of substance.

My fellow poster...I was on this political forum (under another screen name) in early 2008.....could be even 2007..not sure when this forum of politics began. Interesting, it began as a forum set up to discuss a proposal to open a horse track out on 301 and the forum owner liked the idea of people being able to discuss world events.

In those days, posters actually talked about issues and did it with respect. When you came to that forum, you voiced your opinion, did your best to validate it with links or information and everyone enjoyed. A few had to take it to another level with the insults and total lack of anything of substance tipi say.

I say that now because, it is ironic. I had a reputation as the ultra conservative poster...the poster who just did not understand Barrack Obama, and NOW I have not changed one iota. Then, and now, character and honesty was important to me.

Meantime a few on here who may have been around in the early days..although I don't really know for sure, they simply slid into an abyss of ULTR?..NOT conservatism, because a true conservative is just not mean like they are today.

Posts like yours would be met with rejection by that forum and you would be bounced.

I know many posters recall those days....I hope as I truely take my leave of what has become a full fledged insane asylum filled with such hate.

Yes, I opposed Obama...did it strongly, and still do, but at least he is a good man with character. I violently disagree with most of his policies. I lead the charge on being anti Obamacare.

Now you insult me.

If you think you are a conservative because you hate Obama, or hate Clinton..understand something....my conservative values push me to object to a lot, but never to hate.

If you think you are a conservative because you support a liar, a serial cheater and so much more...my conservative values repel his character.

I leave this place because those of you who are simply vile human beings who do not have the ability to discuss any issue without hate are NOT conservatives..you have moved to the extreme and are so filled with hate it has consumed you.

I choose not to engage any longer, you are insulting in even suggesting you are conservative or have values,.

I apologize but your post set me over the edge. Some of the hypocritical demeaning posts, some aimed at me are beyond anything reasonable.

For you old timers, I was BUCCO and am still a proud conservative, and suppose I join the club of those who will be admonished.

Just cannot stand being called names and people who have NO values telling me what a conservative is.

Donald Trump is no conservative and you will all see that develop. He does not qualify as he has no morals. Can he change..maybe..but I doubt it.

Enjoy making the immature remarks aimed at me. I shared my real user name to allow those who attacked me frequently in the past for being conservative to see that I really can see both sides ��

I wrote this because I am tired of having my values questioned by people who lie, support lying, support dissemination of FAKE news, are obviously filled with hate and blame the current President for being filled with hate. I suspect these people who blame the media, the other party and everyone they can have reasons. I can never allow myself to stoop as low and refuse to defend my real conservative values to posters who don't even know the meaning of truth and values.

:blahblahblah:..:icon_bored:..:icon_bored:..
:rolleyes:

[MDLNB]

OK, where do I start? First, you can't cherry pick from my statement. It must be read as a whole as it is written. Hillary Clinton made no statements herself suggesting that she is a Communist. Second, George Soros is a billionaire, like Trump. Can you explain to me how a Communist can also be a billionaire capitalist? I am really looking forward to you trying to do that. Third, you suggest that I might be an @sshole and that I speak with my @sshole. On the second part I wish I could because if I could speak that way people would pay to watch it and I'd also be a billionaire. Now since I am clearly not an anus, since an anus can not type or think, then I must assume that you are using the second definition of the word which is "an irritating or contemptible person." I must plead guilty to being irritating or contemptible to all persons who either support or practice racism. Please know that I don't intend to change and I don't apologize, but thank you for the critique. I suppose name calling is all that is left to one who really has no logical basis for an argument.

:cryin2:

[Allegiance]

100% of humans know rocky was never conservative, 100%

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[dirtbanker]

100% of humans know rocky was never conservative, 100%

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Well maybe before her son came out of the closet...
:1rotfl:

[Chi-Town]

100% of humans know rocky was never conservative, 100%

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Does that include Neanderthals?

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[Chi-Town]

I remember Bucco. I think he was conservative. Go figure. Maybe GG will weigh in on this



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[debbieingigharbor]

So far, so good. I have no problem with him. I thought I would but I decided to support him and so far he is doing great.

Too bad you are such a poor loser. Loser with a capital "L"

Trying to carry on an intelligent conversation with some of these Trump supporters is like talking to a 4th grader. I mean a 4th grader with ADHD. :oops:

[janmcn]

I remember Bucco. I think he was conservative. Go figure. Maybe GG will weigh in on this



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Bucco was one of the six-pack. If he is gone for good, that means there is only a two-pack left.

[Allegiance]

Trying to carry on an intelligent conversation with some of these Trump supporters is like talking to a 4th grader. I mean a 4th grader with ADHD. :oops:
Debbie, you and Jan are getting me down.

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[Warren Kiefer]

They are already doing that with ObamaCare. Where have you been? How many millions lost their health insurance because of Obamacare? "You can keep your insurance and you can keep your doctor" my @ss! We were better off before Obamacare and a ten page health care plan can fix this mess, AFTER they repeal it.

Stupid ass !!!

[MDLNB]

Stupid ass !!!

A simple but accurate assessment of Obama, thank you.

[Bsturner]

China owns a lot of our debt. What would happen if they were made enough to dump our debt and stop buying it in the future?

[Bsturner]

Well, we have heard from the ONLY three libtards on this forum. Bet their arms are sore from patting each other on the back for being so sharp and witty.

Proud of being a liberal? I am glad that some can admit to their faults. It is refreshing. Although, claiming to be progressive and then voting for Bernie the commie or Hillary that wanted more of the same, is not most reasonable folks' definition of progressive. If anything, I guess Trump would be the real progressive. But, live in your imaginary world and comfort each other after LOSING the election. You do believe you lost, right?

Poor losers are very unbecoming, but only because they are so blatantly petulant. You can try to rationalize or justify your loss, but the fact is that your side has an ANTI-American view of things and most of America does not see it your way. YES, MOST of the country. Hillary lost because the left did not turn out to vote. More blacks and Latinos voted for Trump than Romney, which also shows that more minorities are starting to wake up and realize how they have been conned by the left.

And yes, we do expect to hear from you every day. . After all, those with their hands out are likely to cry when their reservoir of freebies dries up. If you think anyone believes that you are proud to claim to be a loser or claim to be a liberal, then you are only fooling yourself. You see, you liberals need us, but we don't need you. You can't survive without us, but the left is nothing more than a bothersome burden to the right. But, we are inclusive. And believe me, when I say that we have taken a lot of cr@p from the left in the name of PC. Sorry if we don't show our appreciation for being disparaged by the so-called leader of our country for the past 8 years. At least you will not have to contend with Obama's style of divisiveness. Trump has already shown his wish to heal and repair the country's division.

It was Obama that said "Elections have consequences...and I won." Remember that.

And Chi, you have a lot of gull to suggest that other posters make "snippy" posts. Snippy one liners have been your trait from the beginning. Closing argument "wins the case?" Good luck on that, because hillary's closing argument certainly did not win her the case/ELECTION.

You LOST, so live with it. We did, for 8 years of incompetent and partisan leadership. I bet this term will be easier on you.
When House Leader Ryan and Trump take away Medicare and Social Security as we know it, will you still feel like a winner?

[Don Baldwin]

China owns a lot of our debt. What would happen if they were made enough to dump our debt and stop buying it in the future?

We'd do what we do now...buy our own debt...via the Federal Reserve.

The country is broke...it's bankrupt...we owe $20 trillion and we go a $trillion deeper in the hole each year.

Why? To give 50 million foodstamps, to house millions, the "educate" millions, to provide healthcare for millions.

We have TOO MANY poor people, they're dragging us down.

[MDLNB]

When House Leader Ryan and Trump take away Medicare and Social Security as we know it, will you still feel like a winner?

BS turner, you're really Chicken Little, right? The sky is falling shouted Chicken Little, the sky is falling. Why in the world would you believe that SS and Medicare would go away? One of the largest demographics in America is the seniors. Do you really believe that congress AND the president would do something as inconceivable as destroying that many American votes? Change it, yes. I have always been for changing it. Take my Medicare away because it is causing havoc with my private insurance. If you don't need it, then take it and use the money for someone that does not have private insurance. Fine with me. Privatize SS. Other countries have done it with success. But, that will never happen. Congress borrows from it and if it was privatized, it would be like slapping their little hands when they attempt to stick their hands in the SS cookie jar.

So, if you think that your wild theories are going to justify your election loss, forgetaboutit.

[jimbo2012]

The country is broke...it's bankrupt...we owe $20 trillion

We are not broke or bankrupt,

Bankrupt is when your assets are less than debt, you don't think the US is worth more than $20 trillion?


As to the fear that China won't buy new debt, the idea is we have NEW debt

[Don Baldwin]

Trying to carry on an intelligent conversation with some of these Trump supporters is like talking to a 4th grader. I mean a 4th grader with ADHD. :oops:

Libs is the party full of deviants, the poor, the uneducated, welfare recipients, low IQ minorities.

The Cons are the white business owners and middle class.

Which ones would you put more faith in?

We are not broke or bankrupt,

Bankrupt is when your assets are less than debt, you don't think the US is worth more than $20 trillion?


As to the fear that China won't buy new debt, the idea is we have NEW debt

When you go DEEPER into debt by a $trillion each year ($3000 for EACH man, woman, and child)... When you owe the total value of the S&P 500 ($20 trillion)... When you borrow to pay off old debt... You're bankrupt in my book.

[Cedwards38]

Libs is the party full of deviants, the poor, the uneducated, welfare recipients, low IQ minorities.

The Cons are the white business owners and middle class.

Which ones would you put more faith in?



When you go DEEPER into debt by a $trillion each year ($3000 for EACH man, woman, and child)... When you owe the total value of the S&P 500 ($20 trillion)... When you borrow to pay off old debt... You're bankrupt in my book.

Thanks for your data on party demographics. Can you quote me a fact source on that so that I can read further?

[Don Baldwin]

Thanks for your data on party demographics. Can you quote me a fact source on that so that I can read further?

Really? You need spoon feeding? How about the breakdown of the election? The "diversified" inner cities where the majority of blacks and Hispanics (poor people) and gays live...voted D...the "working class, white, flyover REST of the country is mostly white and voted R.

It's already been established that blacks and hispanics are less educated and poorer.

2016 Election Live: Full Results and Maps - WSJ.com (http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/results/)

Click on a state to get the counties.

[janmcn]

Libs is the party full of deviants, the poor, the uneducated, welfare recipients, low IQ minorities.

The Cons are the white business owners and middle class.

Which ones would you put more faith in?



When you go DEEPER into debt by a $trillion each year ($3000 for EACH man, woman, and child)... When you owe the total value of the S&P 500 ($20 trillion)... When you borrow to pay off old debt... You're bankrupt in my book.


Anybody see the boardroom full of dems yesterday including the heads of Amazon, Uber, Facebook, Intel, Microsoft, etc? Did it look like a room full of deviants?

[Don Baldwin]

Anybody see the boardroom full of dems yesterday including the heads of Amazon, Uber, Facebook, Intel, Microsoft, etc? Did it look like a room full of deviants?

They were part of the 1,000 or so successful liberals. The VAST majority are the inner city blacks and hispanics...is it not? I'm talking men here.

Women are mostly liberal because of their genes...you're programmed to share...but unfortunately, you're also programmed not to produce yourself. You're programed to find a man who will take care of you...because pregnancy and child rearing make you helpless and dependent. The government was voted by you, to become "your man", your provider.

I didn't make the "rules", I'm just telling you what they are...

[TheDude]

The left always shouts the loudest, and are so PC, but when its time to vote you don't show up.
The right takes the punches, get shouted down in the media but then they go vote.
The middle watch all the shouting and turns against the bully.

How long are you going to whine for?

No argument is going to change the fact that you should have had someone other than Hillary running.

Hillary was so bad, and was too important to help others in her party win their offices so now all of government is run by the right.

So thank you left side, keep on shouting... just make excuses.

You had a gimmick representing your party 8 years ago, and pulled it off. This time the gimmick failed.

And you smart ones in these forums will pick apart other views and just dismiss, but you can't dismiss you lost.

So, when you smart people talk about the double talk Trump may do, remember Obama promise the world then blame Bush. He knew what he was getting himself into when he ran. Then he put two of his rivals as Sec of State.

Who do you think Hillary would put in office? Probably no one, she would just leave it as it is, except Feel the Burn would have become a Sec of State. And the USA would be just as it is today, as it was a year ago...

Out with the old, and in with the new (did I say that in TV forums).

[MDLNB]

The left is crying foul because they insist that the Russians are hacking their garbage email, when the truth is that it is their own leaks that have revealed their misdeeds. That, and now they have George Soros stirring up the libtard Hollywood idiots to threaten the electors to vote against Trump. Well, the joke is on the left. The weak electors are not going to vote for Hillary, they are going to vote for Kasich. And there still won't be enough to get Hillary elected. So, the joke is on all of those radical nut cases and their blind and dumb followers. The Russians are laughing their heads off, when it is the real commie George Soros that is financing all the turmoil. Liberals are soooo stupid and gullible.

By the way, Russia does hack us all the time, but they sure are not going to tell us. We hack them too, and do a better job of it. Our intel agencies can't go about revealing our ability just to please the libtards. It's why we have to keep secrets away from scum like Hillary. She is a traitor to America, and should be put down like a sick animal.

[Allegiance]

The Russians are laughing at how they made Barry look like a fool. Trump supporters are laughing at Clinton hags, it's fun guys, keep it up.

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[debbieingigharbor]

Please define "interact freely".

I am a Trump supporter. I interact with many on this forum at no charge. I even interact on here with the bull dike lesbian that has a chip on her shoulder, does that make me a gay weirdo by association?

If Trump is not going to do what he promised, the Crooked Hillary supporters should be happy. On the other hand, the Crazy Bernie supporters will never be happy (eternal cry babies).

bull dike lesbian? cry babies? What are you a 8th grader?

[Cedwards38]

Really? You need spoon feeding? How about the breakdown of the election? The "diversified" inner cities where the majority of blacks and Hispanics (poor people) and gays live...voted D...the "working class, white, flyover REST of the country is mostly white and voted R.

It's already been established that blacks and hispanics are less educated and poorer.

2016 Election Live: Full Results and Maps - WSJ.com (http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/results/)

Click on a state to get the counties.

Yeah, I need spoon feeding when it comes to your biased and misguided conclusions about the American electorate. It's becoming painfully obvious that it's impossible to have an intelligent conversation about issues with Trumpies, but let's try. Maybe read some of these:

Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal? : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2016/04/30/475794063/why-are-highly-educated-americans-getting-more-liberal)

Pew: Democratic Party, Republican Party Becoming Less Alike : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2016/09/13/493763493/charts-see-how-quickly-white-non-college-voters-have-fled-the-democratic-party)

A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation | Pew Research Center (http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/)

Is education level tied to voting tendencies? | PolitiFact Georgia (http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2012/nov/05/larry-sabato/education-level-tied-voting-tendencies/)

There's more if you want it.

[Warren Kiefer]

Libs is the party full of deviants, the poor, the uneducated, welfare recipients, low IQ minorities.

The Cons are the white business owners and middle class.

Which ones would you put more faith in?



When you go DEEPER into debt by a $trillion each year ($3000 for EACH man, woman, and child)... When you owe the total value of the S&P 500 ($20 trillion)... When you borrow to pay off old debt... You're bankrupt in my book.

At what point did we become bankrupt ?? Bush left off with us 10 trillion in debt...

[Warren Kiefer]

Trying to carry on an intelligent conversation with some of these Trump supporters is like talking to a 4th grader. I mean a 4th grader with ADHD. :oops:

I totally agree.

[Warren Kiefer]

China owns a lot of our debt. What would happen if they were made enough to dump our debt and stop buying it in the future?

You need to find out how much Trump owes China. No taxes no information and he plans to keep it that at >>

[billethkid]

At what point did we become bankrupt ?? Bush left off with us 10 trillion in debt...

That doesn't matter now does it?

The current situation demonstrates that Obama did nothing to at a minimum hold it in place.

Another fact, he did more than nothing. He and the congress allowed the debt to double. Another fact for his legacy.

[rjm1cc]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.

Very disappointed that he did not solve all the world problems before XMass. Many some will be solved before next XMaaa.

[janmcn]

That doesn't matter now does it?

The current situation demonstrates that Obama did nothing to at a minimum hold it in place.

Another fact, he did more than nothing. He and the congress allowed the debt to double. Another fact for his legacy.


It's is amusing that the only time republicans care about the deficit is when a democrat is in the White House. There has not been one post on Trump's plans to spend one trillion on infrastructure or increase military spending, both unpaid for expenditures.

[rjm1cc]

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.

Very disappointed that he did not solve all the world problems before XMass. Many some will be solved before next XMass.

[MDLNB]

Very disappointed that he did not solve all the world problems before XMass. Many some will be solved before next XMass.

Give him a chance, it's still 9 more days before Christmas and the Orthodox Christmas isn't until Jan 7th. As hard as that guy works, he'll probably have all of America's problems solved and a start on the World's problems before he is sworn in.

Even with George Soros spending half of his wealth on liberals in Hollywood and Obama and Hillary in hopes of subverting our election, Trump will still be sworn in on time.

[Emmakrock@yahoo.com]

:beer3::beer3:
So sad, so holy, go to canada

[debbieingigharbor]

That doesn't matter now does it?

The current situation demonstrates that Obama did nothing to at a minimum hold it in place.

Another fact, he did more than nothing. He and the congress allowed the debt to double. Another fact for his legacy.

It doesn't matter now? Actually it does matter. Yes, we are more in dept now but why? Maybe because of the "great recession" Obama inherited? You think that may have had something to do with it?

Stock market almost tripled since Obama came into office. Unemployment more than cut in half. You should be thanking the man. Oh ya, I forgot....... he's black.

[Henryk]

Only a very stupid person would ignore the fact that Trump has not and probably never will disclose his taxes >>>

:BigApplause::BigApplause:

[Henryk]

It doesn't matter now? Actually it does matter. Yes, we are more in dept now but why? Maybe because of the "great recession" Obama inherited? You think that may have had something to do with it?

Stock market almost tripled since Obama came into office. Unemployment more than cut in half. You should be thanking the man. Oh ya, I forgot....... he's black.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[Don Baldwin]

It doesn't matter now? Actually it does matter. Yes, we are more in dept now but why? Maybe because of the "great recession" Obama inherited? You think that may have had something to do with it?

Stock market almost tripled since Obama came into office. Unemployment more than cut in half. You should be thanking the man. Oh ya, I forgot....... he's black.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

You're bowing to the wrong person...for the wrong reasons.

O added $10 trillion of debt to HIDE the "depression". 50 million 1/6 the population needing food assistance is a DEPRESSION. Millions needing public housing and section 8 is a DEPRESSION.

The stock market tripled because the Fed gave the banks money to buy stocks. They got money to buy bonds too. FREE money. Just handed money to invest.

Unemployment/underemployment is as high as ever for AMERICANS especially blacks. Hispanics have plenty of jobs. The BLS "massages" those employment numbers. Lately, they've been taking people "out of the workforce" to make their numbers look good. They've dropped 94 million out of the labor force. That's almost 1/3 the population OUT OF WORK. 33%.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+millions+out+of+the+labor+force% 3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

His presidency has been fake, a fraud, just an excuse to loot the taxpayer. We each "owe" over $60,000 as "our share", EVERY man woman and child.

Trump doesn't want to live in the white house because of the simian stink that's permeated every nook and cranny...yes...because he's black. Never been in a black family (if you can FIND a real black family) house? It has a very unique odor. THEY have a very unique odor. Just another of the myriad of differences between us. Skin color being one of hundreds of differences.

[Ladygolfer93]

I completely agree; how in the world can any of us begin to assess someone's job performance before they begin ? I too have lost "hope" that much will ever change regardless of the party or philosophy. Of course it is a complex issue, but the state of the world, the tech advances, growth, complexity, just makes it almost impossible to "put (at lease some) of the toothpaste back in the tube". Then, add to the complex monetary and financial web of modern day world wide trade and business, the element of national politics, and the personal politics of greed and power (the human condition unfortunately), and (though I am basically an optimist) my professional/analytical education tell me "no", there really is no way to shrink bureaucratic bloat. It would throw millions out of work, even if needless work. As a private sector manager my only choice was zero based when I planned and prepared. It works ! There are indeed ALWAYS ways to cut back on anything, even the "absolutely untouchable" items, but, conversely, the business or institution must have the stomach for it, must be willing to swim UP stream against all odds. It is not easy. In D.C., I would bet on impossible. Term limits might help. There are arguments both ways, but I think The strongest would be to revert to the days of our founders when "going into the political arena meant SIGNIFICANT personal financial sacrifice (leaving rich farms or businesses for a SHORT PRE-DETERMINED period, a period which meant loss of income but an enormous sense of pride and self-sacrifice much like that of military service for country. I am personally turned off by not only H.R. and N.P., but by a host of republicans also, who go to Washington and stay until they died. All the while fighting term limits and claiming their LONG experience "know their way around Washington" makes them invaluable to "Joe Sixpack" who obviously can't fend for himself. These folks (of both parties), see to fell their lack of education (in many cases, not all of course), and/or their lack of real world experience, is the very thing that makes them so valuable the need to stay in their elective offices forever. If political service were like military service (as it once was, and many times one in the same), we would find our BBB's as we have in all our men and women who have served our nation, out Brightest, Bravest, and our Best. And no, I can not claim that honor for myself.

[debbieingigharbor]

You're bowing to the wrong person...for the wrong reasons.

O added $10 trillion of debt to HIDE the "depression". 50 million 1/6 the population needing food assistance is a DEPRESSION. Millions needing public housing and section 8 is a DEPRESSION.

The stock market tripled because the Fed gave the banks money to buy stocks. They got money to buy bonds too. FREE money. Just handed money to invest.

Unemployment/underemployment is as high as ever for AMERICANS especially blacks. Hispanics have plenty of jobs. The BLS "massages" those employment numbers. Lately, they've been taking people "out of the workforce" to make their numbers look good. They've dropped 94 million out of the labor force. That's almost 1/3 the population OUT OF WORK. 33%.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+millions+out+of+the+labor+force% 3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

His presidency has been fake, a fraud, just an excuse to loot the taxpayer. We each "owe" over $60,000 as "our share", EVERY man woman and child.

Trump doesn't want to live in the white house because of the simian stink that's permeated every nook and cranny...yes...because he's black. Never been in a black family (if you can FIND a real black family) house? It has a very unique odor. THEY have a very unique odor. Just another of the myriad of differences between us. Skin color being one of hundreds of differences.


And they say republicans aren't racists.

[mtdjed]

And democrats use racists.

[MDLNB]

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And they say republicans aren't racists.

Debbie, are you so dense or stupid that you have not read any of Don's rants before? He said he is NOT a Republican or a Democrat. How many times do you have to be told before it sinks in? No wonder you believed Hillary to be innocent of corruption. Wow, I have an ocean front lot I will sell you in Arizona. It's perfect for you.

Or, is it just that you have a need to say something, so you say ANYTHING on here? Don't you realize that you embarrass yourself?

Don may be a racist, but he is intelligent enough to make a well formed argument. He is right when he makes statements asking people to prove something he says to be incorrect. No, I am not defending his radical view, but his valid argument. I do not agree with him, but I find it hard to dispute his facts.

Instead of making wide generalized statements, accusing everyone of being racists or bigots, why don't you just shut up or try to make a coherent retort instead of an ignorant, uninformed premature verbal ejaculation?

[MDLNB]

[/COLOR][/B]

And they say republicans aren't racists.

“The main reason behind successful immigration should be painfully obvious to even the most dimwitted of observers: Some groups of people are almost always highly successful given only half a chance (Jews*, Hindus/Sikhs and Chinese people, for example), while others (Muslims, blacks** and Roma***, for instance) fare badly almost irrespective of circumstances.”

Excerpt from Podesta's email. Another racist Republican, right?

[ColdNoMore]

Debbie, are you so dense or stupid that you have not read any of Don's rants before? He said he is NOT a Republican or a Democrat. How many times do you have to be told before it sinks in? No wonder you believed Hillary to be innocent of corruption. Wow, I have an ocean front lot I will sell you in Arizona. It's perfect for you.

Or, is it just that you have a need to say something, so you say ANYTHING on here? Don't you realize that you embarrass yourself?

Don may be a racist, but he is intelligent enough to make a well formed argument. He is right when he makes statements asking people to prove something he says to be incorrect. No, I am not defending his radical view, but his valid argument. I do not agree with him, but I find it hard to dispute his facts.

Instead of making wide generalized statements, accusing everyone of being racists or bigots, why don't you just shut up or try to make a coherent retort instead of an ignorant, uninformed premature verbal ejaculation?

Aren't you smart enough to realize that in fact you, larbud, Allegiance, GG, Jimbo, et al. actually DO agree with Don Baldwin's racism...but are just a little afraid of coming right out and saying it.

The highlighted portion above is very easy for any moderately intelligent person to understand...so at least you're partially admitting it.

Thanks for that. :thumbup:

[MDLNB]

Aren't you smart enough to realize that in fact you, larbud, Allegiance, GG, Jimbo, et al. actually DO agree with Don Baldwin's racism...but are just a little afraid of coming right out and saying it.

The highlighted portion above is very easy for any moderately intelligent person to understand...so at least you're partially admitting it.

Thanks for that. :thumbup:

That is a stupid thing to say, but in your desperation to save face after a terrible defeat and damage to your ego, I can empathize with you. Only in your deranged mind would you find a need to believe fault in others to justify your disastrous loss. I bet it was humiliating to face the fact that you spouted all of your arrogance and exulted in the fact that in your mind there was no way that Hillary could be defeated by a "non-politician."

Do you really feel better now that you accused someone of being a racist? Does it make you feel superior somehow? Actually, I got a laugh when I read your little retort. If you knew me, you would realize how hilarious your statement is. I'm sorry, but you really did pick the wrong person to accuse of being a racist and it is absolutely sooo funny. I have to show this to my wife. She will get a kick out of this one. Sorry, it's not your fault for not knowing what you are talking about. Just a bit presumptuous.

No wonder you folks are so childish to accuse Trump of being friends with Putin. Trump finds Putin to be a better leader than Obama, but that does not make them friends. I agree with him. I do not know Putin personally so I am not his friend. Trump said that he hoped that Russia could find Hilary's missing 33000 emails and turn them over to the FBI and you libtards indignantly shouted that Trump was giving Putin permission to hack our servers. Extreme talking, and taking things out of context seems to be your MO.

Hey CNM......take a chill pill.............chilout

[jimbo2012]

Aren't you smart enough to realize that in fact Jimbo, et al. actually DO agree with Don Baldwin's racism...but are just a little afraid of coming right out and saying it.



Are you out of your freaking mind I never agreed with that raciest pig, I suggested his removal

I asked Ben Carson & Obama to buy homes next to him

[ColdNoMore]

And democrats use racists.

As examples of what despicable human beings are capable of.

The polls leading up to this election, is the perfect example of the Bradley Effect.

Although whites knew that they were going to vote for a narcissistic, racist, bigot, sexist and misogynist who is allergic to telling the truth...they were unwilling to admit it publicly to even poll takers.

A great lesson was learned in that that whites, who are the majority in this country, are still reluctant to publicly admit their racism and/or sexism.

The fact that so many people hated Hillary, more than they love their country, is the real eye opener here.

And as time goes on, we can see these same people slowly admitting their racism and misogyny on this site alone and so make no mistake about it...there are more deplorable/intolerant/bigoted/sexist people in this country than ever. :(

[MDLNB]

As examples of what despicable human beings are capable of.

The polls leading up to this election, is the perfect example of the Bradley Effect.

Although whites knew that they were going to vote for a narcissistic, racist, bigot, sexist and misogynist who is allergic to telling the truth...they were unwilling to admit it publicly to even poll takers.

A great lesson was learned in that that whites, who are the majority in this country, are still reluctant to publicly admit their racism and/or sexism.

The fact that so many people hated Hillary, more than they love their country, is the real eye opener here.

And as time goes on, we can see these same people slowly admitting their racism and misogyny on this site alone and so make no mistake about it...there are more deplorable/intolerant/bigoted/sexist people in this country than ever. :(

Wow CNM, did you get up on the wrong side of the futon? With all of this poison you spout, I certainly hope that you expel it all before you harm yourself. I can see the spittle splattering your monitor as you pound on your keyboard. Such hate! Sorry, I do realize that you libtards have the franchise on the term "hate" but I could not resist using it. My bad.

Hey CNM, take some deep breaths. Losing is not the end of your world. Think four years from now. Perhaps you can nominate PokaNotUs to be your "first" female president. Maybe the faux native American will champion your cause, whatever that may be.

Sooo......take some deep breaths....hold it.....hold it.......keep holding it...............:1rotfl:

[ColdNoMore]

That is a stupid thing to say, but in your desperation to save face after a terrible defeat and damage to your ego, I can empathize with you. Only in your deranged mind would you find a need to believe fault in others to justify your disastrous loss. I bet it was humiliating to face the fact that you spouted all of your arrogance and exulted in the fact that in your mind there was no way that Hillary could be defeated by a "non-politician."

Do you really feel better now that you accused someone of being a racist? Does it make you feel superior somehow? Actually, I got a laugh when I read your little retort. If you knew me, you would realize how hilarious your statement is. I'm sorry, but you really did pick the wrong person to accuse of being a racist and it is absolutely sooo funny. I have to show this to my wife. She will get a kick out of this one. Sorry, it's not your fault for not knowing what you are talking about. Just a bit presumptuous.
It hardly makes me feel better, in observing how many racists/sexists/misogynists...are still here in this great country. :(



No wonder you folks are so childish to accuse Trump of being friends with Putin. Trump finds Putin to be a better leader than Obama, but that does not make them friends. I agree with him. I do not know Putin personally so I am not his friend. Trump said that he hoped that Russia could find Hilary's missing 33000 emails and turn them over to the FBI and you libtards indignantly shouted that Trump was giving Putin permission to hack our servers. Extreme talking, and taking things out of context seems to be your MO.
Even you aren't ignorant enough to really believe that Putin wanted Trump as POTUS, because he thought that Chump would be a stronger leader and keep Russia in check in their obvious quest...of recapturing the old USSR satellite countries.

Or are you? :ohdear:




Hey CNM......take a chill pill.....
Hardly. :D

Like I've said, I'm looking forward to laughing my azz off watching how ignorant Chump will show himself to be on the world stage. :thumbup:

If anyone in Trump's camp had some smarts, they would sit him in a room (without his smart phone/tablet) and make him watch every episode of the TV series 'Madam Secretary.'

While I'm certainly not claiming that everything in the show is accurate, it does however do an excellent job of showing that the world is not black and white...and that his decisions and words as POTUS have grave consequences.

Not that I think the lesson would really sink in with Trump, but it would at least give him one less excuse to watch SNL and read Vanity Fair...solely so he could Tweet about him being so butthurt about them. :ho:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

As examples of what despicable human beings are capable of.

The polls leading up to this election, is the perfect example of the Bradley Effect.

Although whites knew that they were going to vote for a narcissistic, racist, bigot, sexist and misogynist who is allergic to telling the truth...they were unwilling to admit it publicly to even poll takers.

A great lesson was learned in that that whites, who are the majority in this country, are still reluctant to publicly admit their racism and/or sexism.

The fact that so many people hated Hillary, more than they love their country, is the real eye opener here.

And as time goes on, we can see these same people slowly admitting their racism and misogyny on this site alone and so make no mistake about it...there are more deplorable/intolerant/bigoted/sexist people in this country than ever. :(

I guess when you are on the wrong side of things you have to use any excuse you can as to why your side lost.

Most people in this country know that conservatives are not racist, sexist, misogynist, bigots, fascists and all of the other names that liberals love to throw around. It's not their fault, they just really don't have any real ammunition so they have to make stuff up.

But te people in this country are finally getting wise and rejecting the nonsense of the left.

[MDLNB]

I guess when you are on the wrong side of things you have to use any excuse you can as to why your side lost.

Most people in this country know that conservatives are not racist, sexist, misogynist, bigots, fascists and all of the other names that liberals love to throw around. It's not their fault, they just really don't have any real ammunition so they have to make stuff up.

But te people in this country are finally getting wise and rejecting the nonsense of the left.

Totally agree....:thumbup:

[MDLNB]

It hardly makes me feel better, in observing how many racists/sexists/misogynists...are still here in this great country. :(




Even you aren't ignorant enough to really believe that Putin wanted Trump as POTUS, because he thought that Chump would be a stronger leader and keep Russia in check in their obvious quest...of recapturing the old USSR satellite countries.

Or are you? :ohdear:





Hardly. :D

Like I've said, I'm looking forward to laughing my azz off watching how ignorant Chump will show himself to be on the world stage. :thumbup:

If anyone in Trump's camp had some smarts, they would sit him in a room (without his smart phone/tablet) and make him watch every episode of the TV series 'Madam Secretary.'

While I'm certainly not claiming that everything in the show is accurate, it does however do an excellent job of showing that the world is not black and white...and that his decisions and words as POTUS have grave consequences.

Not that I think the lesson would really sink in with Trump, but it would at least give him one less excuse to watch SNL and read Vanity Fair...solely so he could Tweet about him being so butthurt about them. :ho:

Only in your head. Such a fantasy! I believe your physician has a pill that will help you cope.

Are you really serious when you suggest that you are a patriot and yet also say you are looking forward to laughing at Trump when he makes a mistake? Yep, you are sure credible.

Oh well, I'm sure that you will calm down a few weeks after Trump moves into the White House. Your petulance is very unbecoming. But, I can almost enjoy your lack of control and your drive to embarrass yourself. You were really flying high before election day. You remind me somewhat of a guy I observed in Armenia that was parasailing off of a mountain. His chute suddenly collapsed and he plummeted about a hundred feet or so before he was able to regain control and make a dangerous landing. He managed to save himself from his sudden fall. Hopefully, you can pull yourself out of your fall resulting from losing all of your wind (hot air) from your chute, before you come crashing to the ground.

Merry Christmas!

[mtdjed]

Hillary Lost again.

George Bernard Shaw Quote

“Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”

[mtdjed]

Surprise. NBC Declares Clinton a winner

Clinton Surges Past 270 Electoral Votes in NBC News Battleground Map

by Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann





 Biden: Clinton 'Knows What It Means' to Be First Woman President 0:43




First Read is a morning briefing from Meet the Press and the NBC Political Unit on the day's most important political stories and why they matter.

NBC Battleground Map: Clinton Surges Past 270 Electoral Votes

After releasing our seven battleground-state polls last week -- and seeing several other state surveys -- we've updated our NBC battleground map. The states in Hillary Clinton's column now add up to 288 electoral votes, which exceeds the 270 needed to win the presidency. Donald Trump, meanwhile, is at 174 electoral votes, and an additional 76 are in the Tossup category. Our last map, back in July, showed Clinton with a 255-190 advantage — so Clinton's tally has gone up since the conventions, while Trump's has declined.




NBC News
•Likely Dem: CA, CT, DC, DE, HI, IL, ME (3 EVs) MD, MA, MN, NJ, NM, NY, OR, RI, VT, WA (200 electoral votes)
•Lean Dem: CO, MI, NE (1 EV), NH, NC, PA, VA, WI (88),
•Tossup: FL, GA, IA, ME (1EV), NV, OH (76)
•Lean GOP: AZ, KS, MO, SC, UT (41)
•Likely GOP: AL, AK, AR, ID, IN, KY, LA, MS, MT, NE (4 EVs), ND, OK, SD, TN, TX, WV, WY (133)

[Don Baldwin]

Debbie, are you so dense or stupid that you have not read any of Don's rants before? He said he is NOT a Republican or a Democrat. How many times do you have to be told before it sinks in? No wonder you believed Hillary to be innocent of corruption. Wow, I have an ocean front lot I will sell you in Arizona. It's perfect for you.

Or, is it just that you have a need to say something, so you say ANYTHING on here? Don't you realize that you embarrass yourself?

Don may be a racist, but he is intelligent enough to make a well formed argument. He is right when he makes statements asking people to prove something he says to be incorrect. No, I am not defending his radical view, but his valid argument. I do not agree with him, but I find it hard to dispute his facts.

Instead of making wide generalized statements, accusing everyone of being racists or bigots, why don't you just shut up or try to make a coherent retort instead of an ignorant, uninformed premature verbal ejaculation?

Debbie's not very bright...even for a woman...

Bada bing...I'll be here all week.

I have nothing but FACTS...and they have nothing but "feelings". If it SHOULD be...it IS...is how they think. They will keep doggedly fighting for something that will NEVER happen. A dog will never become a cat, they're different species. Blacks will never become "white", they will never become Asian or Hispanic because we're different...genetically different.

She also doesn't understand that the sexes are VERY different. An ENTIRE half a chromosome different...that is huge biologically. Women will never be men, they'll never be able to do what a man can do. Just as men will never bear children. Just like the racial differences, there are sexual differences. A doe will never beat a stag, a male black widow will never beat the female. There are huge sexual differences and willpower will not change them, laws will not change them. You can call a cat a dog all day long, it doesn't make it so. You can CALL the races and genders "equal", but it won't make it so when it comes down to doing a particular job.

“The main reason behind successful immigration should be painfully obvious to even the most dimwitted of observers: Some groups of people are almost always highly successful given only half a chance (Jews*, Hindus/Sikhs and Chinese people, for example), while others (Muslims, blacks** and Roma***, for instance) fare badly almost irrespective of circumstances.”

Excerpt from Podesta's email. Another racist Republican, right?

I don't know WHY the libs can't get that. Why they can't see what an influx of minorities does to a place. Are they blind to the 95% of blacks who live in self created dumps/ghettos? They see the fake 1% and think if they can do it...the rest can too. But they CAN'T do it. Libs really do need to go to MLK Blvd and spend some time with them. They'll soon learn...they're NOT like us.

Blacks are either slaves or poor as hell...EVERYWHERE. There is NOT ONE successful large group of blacks. Because they're "not us". They're an offshoot. Like the Neanderthals. The proof is everywhere. Diversity is destroying us.

Aren't you smart enough to realize that in fact you, larbud, Allegiance, GG, Jimbo, et al. actually DO agree with Don Baldwin's racism...but are just a little afraid of coming right out and saying it.

The highlighted portion above is very easy for any moderately intelligent person to understand...so at least you're partially admitting it.

Thanks for that. :thumbup:

Lets hear you refute...where IS the black villages? Where IS the TOP black school? Where IS the successful BLACK country? Where DID diversity improve something?

Are you out of your freaking mind I never agreed with that raciest pig, I suggested his removal

I asked Ben Carson & Obama to buy homes next to him

You mean the guy who speaks the truth.

Of course...don't agree...remove them...typical woman/liberal "solution" to problems.

Oh...and vindictive too. Did I say the KKK should come pay you a visit and leave a burning cross behind? No. Because I'm not all emotion like you seem to be. If you'd acknowledge the facts, you'd be on my side.

Diversity IS destroying this country/culture.

As examples of what despicable human beings are capable of.

The polls leading up to this election, is the perfect example of the Bradley Effect.

Although whites knew that they were going to vote for a narcissistic, racist, bigot, sexist and misogynist who is allergic to telling the truth...they were unwilling to admit it publicly to even poll takers.

A great lesson was learned in that that whites, who are the majority in this country, are still reluctant to publicly admit their racism and/or sexism.

The fact that so many people hated Hillary, more than they love their country, is the real eye opener here.

And as time goes on, we can see these same people slowly admitting their racism and misogyny on this site alone and so make no mistake about it...there are more deplorable/intolerant/bigoted/sexist people in this country than ever. :(

People who don't take your "equality" lies seriously are all that?

No for long..."your people" are breeding us out. They ARE the majority of under 6 kids now.

That's your misguided opinion. They hated Hillary and what she stood for. They KNOW that equality and diversity are lies. Should we all be treated fairly? Yes. But not like each and every one of us is an equal in everything. Quotas are killing this country. Because those filling them are NOT "equals". It's not like a just as competent woman or minority is now in the slot...it's an INFERIOR woman or minority now in that slot. It's why we've gone from #1 to #25.

There you go...being all ignorant and sh!t. There are LESS white people every day, we're literally a dying species. OR...did you mean the bigoted/racist/sexist MINORITIES that are slowly taking over? Go watch Univision, see how the women are treated. Barefoot, sexy, or pregant is how they like their women...submissive too...better keep your mouth shut.

The thing that has allowed you the luxury to protest is the very thing you are actively destroying. White culture, a white civilization.

It hardly makes me feel better, in observing how many racists/sexists/misogynists...are still here in this great country. :(




Even you aren't ignorant enough to really believe that Putin wanted Trump as POTUS, because he thought that Chump would be a stronger leader and keep Russia in check in their obvious quest...of recapturing the old USSR satellite countries.

Or are you? :ohdear:





Hardly. :D

Like I've said, I'm looking forward to laughing my azz off watching how ignorant Chump will show himself to be on the world stage. :thumbup:

If anyone in Trump's camp had some smarts, they would sit him in a room (without his smart phone/tablet) and make him watch every episode of the TV series 'Madam Secretary.'

While I'm certainly not claiming that everything in the show is accurate, it does however do an excellent job of showing that the world is not black and white...and that his decisions and words as POTUS have grave consequences.

Not that I think the lesson would really sink in with Trump, but it would at least give him one less excuse to watch SNL and read Vanity Fair...solely so he could Tweet about him being so butthurt about them. :ho:

Trumps epiphany will be when he realizes just how LITTLE what he wants/thinks...matters. How little "hands on" it is. His job is to "schmooze"...that's it. Others do the work behind the scenes...he just signs what's put in front of him.

[mtdjed]

Moderator "Shut this site down." This is just a forum of haters from both sides.

[Don Baldwin]

Moderator "Shut this site down." This is just a forum of haters from both sides.

Waaa...waaa...I don't agree...shut it DOWN!

[billethkid]

Moderator "Shut this site down." This is just a forum of haters from both sides.

Oh by all means let us satisfy the wants/complaints/bitching of the one and screw the rest......typical isolated, special interest/minority mindset of the day.

[Buffalo Jim]

Moderator "Shut this site down." This is just a forum of haters from both sides.

Yes ! The Dem-A-Gods have spoken and made a demand .

It best be honored or else out comes the crayons and the Play-Dough !

[debbieingigharbor]

I guess when you are on the wrong side of things you have to use any excuse you can as to why your side lost.

Most people in this country know that conservatives are not racist, sexist, misogynist, bigots, fascists and all of the other names that liberals love to throw around. It's not their fault, they just really don't have any real ammunition so they have to make stuff up.

But te people in this country are finally getting wise and rejecting the nonsense of the left.

Here is one fact that no reasonable person could dispute. Not all republicans are racists but all racists are republican.

Look no further than this website or David Duke. Case closed. (dropping the mike)

[debbieingigharbor]

It hardly makes me feel better, in observing how many racists/sexists/misogynists...are still here in this great country. :(




Even you aren't ignorant enough to really believe that Putin wanted Trump as POTUS, because he thought that Chump would be a stronger leader and keep Russia in check in their obvious quest...of recapturing the old USSR satellite countries.

Or are you? :ohdear:

Of course he is. I agree it will be fun to watch




Hardly. :D

Like I've said, I'm looking forward to laughing my azz off watching how ignorant Chump will show himself to be on the world stage. :thumbup:

I personally am looking forward to watching the rednecks on this website twist themselves into pretzels trying to explain why Trump did not build a big beautiful wall and have the Mexicans pay for it or any of the other idiotic things he said he would do in an attempt to pander to the uneducated racists of this country. Now that will be fun.

If anyone in Trump's camp had some smarts, they would sit him in a room (without his smart phone/tablet) and make him watch every episode of the TV series 'Madam Secretary.'

While I'm certainly not claiming that everything in the show is accurate, it does however do an excellent job of showing that the world is not black and white...and that his decisions and words as POTUS have grave consequences.

Not that I think the lesson would really sink in with Trump, but it would at least give him one less excuse to watch SNL and read Vanity Fair...solely so he could Tweet about him being so butthurt about them. :ho:
:boom:

[Don Baldwin]

Here is one fact that no reasonable person could dispute. Not all republicans are racists but all racists are republican.

Look no further than this website or David Duke. Case closed. (dropping the mike)

Oh Debbie...do you EVER get it right?

ALL racists are republican? Really Debbie? That's what you think/believe?

I think you need to take a stroll down ANY MLK Blvd before you make a statement like that...see who the REAL racists are. At least "we" have a REASON to be "racist" with them...they're worthless eaters, they mooch, wreck EVERYTHING they touch...destroy everywhere they go. We on the other hand...gave them EVERYTHING they have. Africa without whites is STILL a stone age cesspool. We have reason to "hate" them...what's their excuse for hating us? We're better at everything but some sports?

[dirtbanker]

Here is one fact that no reasonable person could dispute. Not all republicans are racists but all racists are republican.

Look no further than this website or David Duke. Case closed. (dropping the mike)

Not sure you should be "drop n the mic" homie.

It would be similar to say all crack dealers and drive by shooters are democrats...

[MDLNB]

Here is one fact that no reasonable person could dispute. Not all republicans are racists but all racists are republican.

Look no further than this website or David Duke. Case closed. (dropping the mike)

That's pretty funny. It was meant to be funny, right?

Debbie, you put the "tard" in "Libtard." :boom:..:boom:
And if you are "dropping the mike" you must be speaking of your boyfriend or spouse, because if you want to abbreviate microphone, it would be "Mic" not Mike. On the other hand, suit yourself because the rest of us are probably using a keyboard, not a "mic."

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Here is one fact that no reasonable person could dispute. Not all republicans are racists but all racists are republican.

Look no further than this website or David Duke. Case closed. (dropping the mike)

I think that we can easily dispute that. In fact it is statements like this that keep us from unifying as a country.

The liberal strategy now is to call every one and every thing they disagree with racists.

Recently The University of Pennsylvania removed a portrait of
William Shakespeare from its walls because it was deemed to be offensive. Why? Because he's a white male. The portrait was replaced by a photo copy of a picture of a black, female, lesbian from the 60s that wrote poetry. A portrait of possibly the most influential playwright/ poet in history was removed because he was a white male and replaced by a lesser known poet not because she was better, but because she was a woman, black and a lesbian.

Who are the racists in this case?

Even more absurd is the fact that Oxford University in England has told students that they must use the pronoun, he or she depending on what the person they are speaking about prefers. If they don't know, they can use the "gender neutral" pronoun "ze".

As long as this nonsense continues cals of racism will be ignored. The left's strategy is going to be counter productive. They're becoming like the little "person" that called wolf.