TIME 2016 Person of the Year

[MDLNB]

TIME 2016 person of the year: DONALD TRUMP

Shows you that the left is starting to move on.

[Taltarzac725]

TIME 2016 person of the year: DONALD TRUMP

Shows you that the left is starting to move on.

Hitler was Time Man of the Year.

[billethkid]

Barry Diller has it nailed:

One of the changes the United States will see is that Trump "is a better negotiator than someone who has trained in government," Diller said.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

TIME 2016 person of the year: DONALD TRUMP

Shows you that the left is starting to move on.

Is this really a surprise to anyone? How could he not be?

The Time Man of the Year award is the person who most affected the events of the year, for better or for worse.

Whether Trump has affected the events for better or worse may be a matter of opinion, but I don't think that there is any doubt that he has had the most affect on world events.

[Rockyrd]

Barry Diller has it nailed:

One of the changes the United States will see is that Trump "is a better negotiator than someone who has trained in government," Diller said.

Actually I agree with much of what Barry said in that interview, but you sort of picked just a piece of that comment up....the full quote...

"One of the changes the United States will see is that Trump "is a better negotiator than someone who has trained in government," Diller said. He added that he's hopeful that Trump will actually be "really good across the table" and not "manhandle people" or "do one-off things that just sound good."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/06/trump-administration-a-grand-experiment-says-barry-diller.html

I actually have been saying, very poorly, by the way that I also think he can do good, but he is showng no signs of America First...it is still Trump first with all the misleading and false statements (either by commission or ommission)


In October Barry had this to say....

"The idea that clown, bad clown, could actually be president of the United States, it just insults all of us," the chairman of IAC/InterActive and Expedia, Inc. said.

[billethkid]

And Romney said what back then VS now.

When they thought they could have an influence on the results they said one thing.

When what they said mattered for themselves hhhhhmmmnnn....how different the story became.

Politics = positioning = acting = lying = blame somebody else.

No accountability.

No credibility = politicians

[Rockyrd]

And Romney said what back then VS now.

When they thought they could have an influence on the results they said one thing.

When what they said mattered for themselves hhhhhmmmnnn....how different the story became.

Politics = positioning = acting = lying = blame somebody else.

No accountability.

No credibility = politicians

My only point is that for someone who goes after the media for LYING and such, you did quite a job in TOTALLY MISQUOTING what Barry Dillar said simply to fit it into YOUR POST.

Not sure I understand the difference between the lying media and the lying poster !!!!!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

And Romney said what back then VS now.

When they thought they could have an influence on the results they said one thing.

When what they said mattered for themselves hhhhhmmmnnn....how different the story became.

Politics = positioning = acting = lying = blame somebody else.

No accountability.

No credibility = politicians

Exactly why the people that voted for Trump voted for him. We are tired of professional, career politicians.

This country was intended to have a citizen government "for, by and of the people." It stopped being for the people when it stopped being by and of the people.

We need to get rid of the career politicians. We need term limits for congress.

[Chi-Town]

TIME 2016 person of the year: DONALD TRUMP

Shows you that the left is starting to move on.
2008 and 2012: Did you move on?

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[billethkid]

My only point is that for someone who goes after the media for LYING and such, you did quite a job in TOTALLY MISQUOTING what Barry Dillar said simply to fit it into YOUR POST.

Not sure I understand the difference between the lying media and the lying poster !!!!!

Simply because we have differing perspective. However I have the edge as I knew/know my intent.

[billethkid]

2008 and 2012: Did you move on?

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Yes we did and thank GOD it is almost over

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[Rockyrd]

Simply because we have differing perspective. However I have the edge as I knew/know my intent.

Differing perspective ?

Not sure how a different perspective allows you to "misquote" someone (by omitting most if the quote or allowing context)and then to really attack the media for misleading.

Your intent was to mislead...simple as that.

How does misleading equal anything to do wit perspective.

Lying is lying, whether you or the media.

And I will be glad to give you the "edge" whatever that means.

And your "intent" was clear, but does not excuse a lie.

[billethkid]

Differing perspective ?

Not sure how a different perspective allows you to "misquote" someone (by omitting most if the quote or allowing context)and then to really attack the media for misleading.

Your intent was to mislead...simple as that.

How does misleading equal anything to do wit perspective.

Lying is lying, whether you or the media.

And I will be glad to give you the "edge" whatever that means.

And your "intent" was clear, but does not excuse a lie.

Difference of opinion and interpretation.

To each his own....enjoys yours without restating mine to your interpretation.

Enough of this merry go round.

[MDLNB]

Trump totally surprises the masses. No matter what adversity stands in the way, it seems that he just knuckle downs and digs in; and he wins. He has got to be the hardest working elected in history, at least in my lifetime. I just hope that he can continue with this pace without burning out. He works rings around people of younger age.

Before the left continues with the disparaging, I would suggest that they set back and think about what they are going to say next. Trump loves a challenge. Obama humiliated him in public at that dinner, and I doubt that Trump has forgotten it. No one deserves to be humiliated like that, especially from one that is supposed to be a leader of ALL THE PEOPLE. Obama was wrong then and he was wrong on late night TV where he joked about Trump never becoming president. Trump does not need this job and is proving it by not taking a salary. Regardless of what he says, he has proven to be the better person than many politicians, and he has not even been sworn in yet.

Do not ever tell Trump that he can't do something, or he will prove you wrong.

[janmcn]

Trump totally surprises the masses. No matter what adversity stands in the way, it seems that he just knuckle downs and digs in; and he wins. He has got to be the hardest working elected in history, at least in my lifetime. I just hope that he can continue with this pace without burning out. He works rings around people of younger age.

Before the left continues with the disparaging, I would suggest that they set back and think about what they are going to say next. Trump loves a challenge. Obama humiliated him in public at that dinner, and I doubt that Trump has forgotten it. No one deserves to be humiliated like that, especially from one that is supposed to be a leader of ALL THE PEOPLE. Obama was wrong then and he was wrong on late night TV where he joked about Trump never becoming president. Trump does not need this job and is proving it by not taking a salary. Regardless of what he says, he has proven to be the better person than many politicians, and he has not even been sworn in yet.

Do not ever tell Trump that he can't do something, or he will prove you wrong.


Humiliation is a two-way street, for instance when Trump questioned the president's birthplace for five years and finally after five years says oh never mind, "the president was born in the US period".

Now Trump says he loves Barack Obama. Why? Because Obama is taking his calls and trying to influence his thinking on so many levels.

[MDLNB]

Humiliation is a two-way street, for instance when Trump questioned the president's birthplace for five years and finally after five years says oh never mind, "the president was born in the US period".

Now Trump says he loves Barack Obama. Why? Because Obama is taking his calls and trying to influence his thinking on so many levels.

Why is it so easy for you all to forget that it was Obama himself that has made the Kenya birthplace an issue? He is the one that allowed his bio to show that he was born in Kenya. Then Hillary pushed it during her campaign against him. Yes, Trump pushed it until Obama finally released his supposed birth certificate. And yet I still see the left complaining about Trump not releasing his tax returns. Even after he has been elected. And what do they say about his taxes? They say he has not paid any taxes, or that he is a tax cheat, etc. So, it is a bit hypocritical for ANYONE to suggest that one party or the other is the issue. Obama was the president at the time he humiliated Trump at a public dinner. The president has the responsibility of being above that kind of childish, prissy, girly behavior.

Now, you want to suggest that Trump "loves" Obama? Trump has also had Romney, Gore, Cruz, Nicky Haley and many others that opposed him, into his Tower for conversations and consideration. Either Trump is a very forgiving person, not taking their past history of adversity personal, or he is smart like a fox.

[janmcn]

Why is it so easy for you all to forget that it was Obama himself that has made the Kenya birthplace an issue? He is the one that allowed his bio to show that he was born in Kenya. Then Hillary pushed it during her campaign against him. Yes, Trump pushed it until Obama finally released his supposed birth certificate. And yet I still see the left complaining about Trump not releasing his tax returns. Even after he has been elected. And what do they say about his taxes? They say he has not paid any taxes, or that he is a tax cheat, etc. So, it is a bit hypocritical for ANYONE to suggest that one party or the other is the issue. Obama was the president at the time he humiliated Trump at a public dinner. The president has the responsibility of being above that kind of childish, prissy, girly behavior.

Now, you want to suggest that Trump "loves" Obama? Trump has also had Romney, Gore, Cruz, Nicky Haley and many others that opposed him, into his Tower for conversations and consideration. Either Trump is a very forgiving person, not taking their past history of adversity personal, or he is smart like a fox.


Here we go with the fake news again. Why would President Obama allow his bio to show something that is totally untrue? We know that Trump did it to marginalize the president, but why would Obama say that he (Obama) is not qualified to be president?

Was Obama the one calling for his college transcripts to be released?

As president, Trump is subject to the Emolument Clause of the Constitution, and as such, his every business move will be scrutinized like never before. Any violation is an impeachable offense.

Trump told Matt Lauer that he 'loves the president'.

[billethkid]

Here we go with the fake news again. Why would President Obama allow his bio to show something that is totally untrue? We know that Trump did it to marginalize the president, but why would Obama say that he (Obama) is not qualified to be president?

Was Obama the one calling for his college transcripts to be released?

As president, Trump is subject to the Emolument Clause of the Constitution, and as such, his every business move will be scrutinized like never before. Any violation is an impeachable offense.

Trump told Matt Lauer that he 'loves the president'.

Trump has nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G to fear. The precedents for impeachable offenses ignored has been set by Obama several times over.

[Chi-Town]

Why is it so easy for you all to forget that it was Obama himself that has made the Kenya birthplace an issue? He is the one that allowed his bio to show that he was born in Kenya. Then Hillary pushed it during her campaign against him. Yes, Trump pushed it until Obama finally released his supposed birth certificate. And yet I still see the left complaining about Trump not releasing his tax returns. Even after he has been elected. And what do they say about his taxes? They say he has not paid any taxes, or that he is a tax cheat, etc. So, it is a bit hypocritical for ANYONE to suggest that one party or the other is the issue. Obama was the president at the time he humiliated Trump at a public dinner. The president has the responsibility of being above that kind of childish, prissy, girly behavior.

Now, you want to suggest that Trump "loves" Obama? Trump has also had Romney, Gore, Cruz, Nicky Haley and many others that opposed him, into his Tower for conversations and consideration. Either Trump is a very forgiving person, not taking their past history of adversity personal, or he is smart like a fox.
MD, nice try. A 1991 literary promotional booklet erroneously identified Barack Obama as having been born in Kenya. Breitbart picked up on this in 2012 and tried to make it a fact. Old fake news



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[billethkid]

MD, nice try. A 1991 literary promotional booklet erroneously . identified Barack Obama as having been born in Kenya. Breitbart picked up on this in 2012 and tried to make it a fact. Old fake news



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"Fake" is a relative position taken or denied to enhance ones agenda.

[janmcn]

Trump totally surprises the masses. No matter what adversity stands in the way, it seems that he just knuckle downs and digs in; and he wins. He has got to be the hardest working elected in history, at least in my lifetime. I just hope that he can continue with this pace without burning out. He works rings around people of younger age.

Before the left continues with the disparaging, I would suggest that they set back and think about what they are going to say next. Trump loves a challenge. Obama humiliated him in public at that dinner, and I doubt that Trump has forgotten it. No one deserves to be humiliated like that, especially from one that is supposed to be a leader of ALL THE PEOPLE. Obama was wrong then and he was wrong on late night TV where he joked about Trump never becoming president. Trump does not need this job and is proving it by not taking a salary. Regardless of what he says, he has proven to be the better person than many politicians, and he has not even been sworn in yet.

Do not ever tell Trump that he can't do something, or he will prove you wrong.


Trump had better work rings around younger people. He has so much on his plate: privatize social security, privatize Medicare, privatize the VA, repeal Dodd/Frank, repeal Obamacare. He has so many lives to ruin and so little time.

Trump has nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G to fear. The precedents for impeachable offenses ignored has been set by Obama several times over.


Has President Obama ever been accused of accepting gifts from a foreign government?

Not all gifts come gift-wrapped. Trump could violate the Emolument Clause by accepting a reduction in his garbage fee for his hotel in Istanbul, Turkey. That would be considered a gift from a foreign country.

Of course the constitution loving, flag-waving party we all know and love would know this.

[MDLNB]

Trump had better work rings around younger people. He has so much on his plate: privatize social security, privatize Medicare, privatize the VA, repeal Dodd/Frank, repeal Obamacare. He has so many lives to ruin and so little time.


No, it doesn't take time. After all, Obama did a pretty good job of hosing up people's lives in two years, and then had six more years to finish the damage. Thank goodness Hillary won't be able to continue his destruction of America.

If Trump doesn't do well, he will be replaced in four years. Sit back and enjoy the ride, because it is going to be an exciting one. Good or bad, it will be interesting. A positive attitude will predict a decent if not good four years.

[janmcn]

No, it doesn't take time. After all, Obama did a pretty good job of hosing up people's lives in two years, and then had six more years to finish the damage. Thank goodness Hillary won't be able to continue his destruction of America.

If Trump doesn't do well, he will be replaced in four years. Sit back and enjoy the ride, because it is going to be an exciting one. Good or bad, it will be interesting. A positive attitude will predict a decent if not good four years.


Are you talking about the way Obama pulled the economy back from the brink of destruction, saved the auto industry, got 22 million people healthcare, tripled the stock market? What a hosing.

Obama is leaving Trump with too good of an economy.

[MDLNB]

Are you talking about the way Obama pulled the economy back from the brink of destruction, saved the auto industry, got 22 million people healthcare, tripled the stock market? What a hosing.

Obama is leaving Trump with too good of an economy.

I'm sorry, I haven't seen that movie yet. Is it playing at Sumter landing or Spanish Springs? Or, did you see that on Syfy channel?

If you are speaking of reality, then you might start out by pulling some actual facts from the BoLS, such as how many people have left the job force and are still not working, how many folks are on food stamps and how many people are at poverty level. You might also check on the GDP which has not achieved a 3% growth average year during the whole 8 years of Obama, a historical record that is not considered a positive factor in labeling Obama a success. Once you do all of that, come on back and start again.

So Jan, you must be speaking of a scifi movie, because reality is nothing what you are claiming.

[janmcn]

I'm sorry, I haven't seen that movie yet. Is it playing at Sumter landing or Spanish Springs? Or, did you see that on Syfy channel?

If you are speaking of reality, then you might start out by pulling some actual facts from the BoLS, such as how many people have left the job force and are still not working, how many folks are on food stamps and how many people are at poverty level. You might also check on the GDP which has not achieved a 3% growth average year during the whole 8 years of Obama, a historical record that is not considered a positive factor in labeling Obama a success. Once you do all of that, come on back and start again.

So Jan, you must be speaking of a scifi movie, because reality is nothing what you are claiming.


Yeah and there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

We Villagers need to organize a parade to the polo grounds to show our support for Trump's plan to get rid of Medicare. We could march along CR466, cross under to the polo grounds and then have a big bonfire and burn our Medicare cards. Any takers?

[billethkid]

Are you talking about the way Obama pulled the economy back from the brink of destruction, saved the auto industry, got 22 million people healthcare, tripled the stock market? What a hosing.

Obama is leaving Trump with too good of an economy.

BS!

[MDLNB]

Yeah and there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

We Villagers need to organize a parade to the polo grounds to show our support for Trump's plan to get rid of Medicare. We could march along CR466, cross under to the polo grounds and then have a big bonfire and burn our Medicare cards. Any takers?

Fine with me. I don't use medicare. I pay for private insurance that covers what I need. Medicare sure doesn't.

[pbkmaine]

Fine with me. I don't use medicare. I pay for private insurance that covers what I need. Medicare sure doesn't.



Curious. What kind of insurance is this?

[Chi-Town]

Are you talking about the way Obama pulled the economy back from the brink of destruction, saved the auto industry, got 22 million people healthcare, tripled the stock market? What a hosing.

Obama is leaving Trump with too good of an economy.
History is going to be very kind to President Obama.

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[billethkid]

History is going to be very kind to President Obama.

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Whose?

[MDLNB]

Curious. What kind of insurance is this?

Private Insurance. The only thing that medicare pays for is hospitalization. If you want more than that, then you have to pay additional for it. And that additional is beyond what you paid all your working life. If I am going to pay for insurance, I want good coverage, not supplemental insurance that should have been covered by what you paid for during your working career. SO, I pay for private insurance and get full coverage. Yes, because of Obamacare, my insurance cost has risen more during this administration than any previous administrations combined. But, those that support Obamacare are in denial and will adamantly disagree.....with NO facts to support them.

[Don Baldwin]

Private Insurance. The only thing that medicare pays for is hospitalization. If you want more than that, then you have to pay additional for it. And that additional is beyond what you paid all your working life. If I am going to pay for insurance, I want good coverage, not supplemental insurance that should have been covered by what you paid for during your working career. SO, I pay for private insurance and get full coverage. Yes, because of Obamacare, my insurance cost has risen more during this administration than any previous administrations combined. But, those that support Obamacare are in denial and will adamantly disagree.....with NO facts to support them.

There is NO WAY to add 50+ million people who don't pay anything AND have the cost go down. That's how many receive food stamps and they WON'T be paying premiums.

[janmcn]

Private Insurance. The only thing that medicare pays for is hospitalization. If you want more than that, then you have to pay additional for it. And that additional is beyond what you paid all your working life. If I am going to pay for insurance, I want good coverage, not supplemental insurance that should have been covered by what you paid for during your working career. SO, I pay for private insurance and get full coverage. Yes, because of Obamacare, my insurance cost has risen more during this administration than any previous administrations combined. But, those that support Obamacare are in denial and will adamantly disagree.....with NO facts to support them.


Medicare Part B is just a little over $100 per month, hardly beyond what you paid for all your working life, and pays for just about everything including doctor's visits, chemo, Pet scans and every other scan, radiation, X-rays, etc.

Medicare Advantage Plans pay the same as regular Medicare in addition to dental, eye care, gym membership, and prescriptions, and some of them reimburse your $100 per month fee.

As soon as the ACA is repealed next month, we will all be back to having to pay for diagnostic tests (currently free under Obamacare) and we will all be back to having the doughnut hole (which is part of Medicare Part D). And women will once again be charged more for insurance.

[Chi-Town]

Private Insurance. The only thing that medicare pays for is hospitalization. If you want more than that, then you have to pay additional for it. And that additional is beyond what you paid all your working life. If I am going to pay for insurance, I want good coverage, not supplemental insurance that should have been covered by what you paid for during your working career. SO, I pay for private insurance and get full coverage. Yes, because of Obamacare, my insurance cost has risen more during this administration than any previous administrations combined. But, those that support Obamacare are in denial and will adamantly disagree.....with NO facts to support them.
MD, I dont get it. Your bio says that you are a Vietnam vet, which should put into the Medicare age group. All you would need then is a good supplemental plan like BCBS plan F and a decent part D and you're good to go. The coverage is excellent and should be a fraction if the cost for comparable coverage. Even if you're not 65, you are close. So hang in there, hopefully you'll have the oportunuty.

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[MDLNB]

MD, I dont get it. Your bio says that you are a Vietnam vet, which should put into the Medicare age group. All you would need then is a good supplemental plan like BCBS plan F and a decent part D and you're good to go. The coverage is excellent and should be a fraction if the cost for comparable coverage. Even if you're not 65, you are close. So hang in there, hopefully you'll have the oportunuty.

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You pay for medicare all your career and get what? Told that if you wish anything more than hospitalization, you must pay another $105 per month, per person (most are married,right?). You are better off being a no-load welfare recipient because Medicaid gives you more medical coverage for NOTHING.

I pay full coverage private insurance so that I can have the medical coverage that my spouse needs, and if I ever need it I will also.

How much do you think the average person pays into Medicare in their lifetime? Why should I trust the gov to manage any service? And please don't talk about the VA because that is another whole can of worms.

[Don Baldwin]

Medicare Part B is just a little over $100 per month, hardly beyond what you paid for all your working life, and pays for just about everything including doctor's visits, chemo, Pet scans and every other scan, radiation, X-rays, etc.

Medicare Advantage Plans pay the same as regular Medicare in addition to dental, eye care, gym membership, and prescriptions, and some of them reimburse your $100 per month fee.

As soon as the ACA is repealed next month, we will all be back to having to pay for diagnostic tests (currently free under Obamacare) and we will all be back to having the doughnut hole (which is part of Medicare Part D). And women will once again be charged more for insurance.

Why not? They use it more than men do. We charge different rates for different drivers...why not medical insurance? You think "we" should all have to subsidize you? If you cost more...you should pay more.

You pay for medicare all your career and get what? Told that if you wish anything more than hospitalization, you must pay another $105 per month, per person (most are married,right?). You are better off being a no-load welfare recipient because Medicaid gives you more medical coverage for NOTHING.

I pay full coverage private insurance so that I can have the medical coverage that my spouse needs, and if I ever need it I will also.

How much do you think the average person pays into Medicare in their lifetime? Why should I trust the gov to manage any service? And please don't talk about the VA because that is another whole can of worms.

MORE than they pay in...a lot of people spend over a $ million in the last year of life. Your premiums weren't that much.

You shouldn't trust them...they don't have your best interests in mind. Neither do private insurers. Nor anyone in the medical field...they want repeat customers, they don't want the cured.

VA...care by the lowest bidder. Well...actually, you find that most everywhere now.

Lowered standards is what is doing us in...and the standards are being lowered so we can "qualify" women and minorities...don't you feel great about that?

[janmcn]

You pay for medicare all your career and get what? Told that if you wish anything more than hospitalization, you must pay another $105 per month, per person (most are married,right?). You are better off being a no-load welfare recipient because Medicaid gives you more medical coverage for NOTHING.

I pay full coverage private insurance so that I can have the medical coverage that my spouse needs, and if I ever need it I will also.

How much do you think the average person pays into Medicare in their lifetime? Why should I trust the gov to manage any service? And please don't talk about the VA because that is another whole can of worms.



The only reason you can purchase private insurance with a spouse with a pre-existing condition is because of Obamacare. Trump voters seem to forget the good old days prior to 2010 when insurance companies could drop you at the drop of the hat for getting sick.

Just like they forget what fun it was to deal with the doughnut hole when buying prescription drugs, and how seniors had to pay for all those wellness tests, which are now free under Obamacare.

When the ACA is repealed in like six weeks, how long do you think it will be before those cancellation notices start arriving in the mail?

[MDLNB]

The only reason you can purchase private insurance with a spouse with a pre-existing condition is because of Obamacare. Trump voters seem to forget the good old days prior to 2010 when insurance companies could drop you at the drop of the hat for getting sick.

Just like they forget what fun it was to deal with the doughnut hole when buying prescription drugs, and how seniors had to pay for all those wellness tests, which are now free under Obamacare.

When the ACA is repealed in like six weeks, how long do you think it will be before those cancellation notices start arriving in the mail?

We didn't need two thousand pages of regulation and almost a trillion stolen from Medicare to make it possible for pre-existing conditions. And how many 26 year olds need to be on their parents' health insurance? The whole thing was pushed through without regard to any debate or adjusting it. It is a mess. Practically the only change they made was to take off the wording on the death panels. Although, they still have panels that decide whether or not you get a provided service.

No one is stupid enough to believe that Obamacare is a good deal.

[janmcn]

We didn't need two thousand pages of regulation and almost a trillion stolen from Medicare to make it possible for pre-existing conditions. And how many 26 year olds need to be on their parents' health insurance? The whole thing was pushed through without regard to any debate or adjusting it. It is a mess. Practically the only change they made was to take off the wording on the death panels. Although, they still have panels that decide whether or not you get a provided service.

No one is stupid enough to believe that Obamacare is a good deal.


Finally someone comes forward to support insurance companies being able to kick you off your policy because you got sick and not selling insurance to anyone with a pre-existing condition.

Let's ask the 22 million enrollees if they think Obamacare is a good deal.

[Allegiance]

Jan Jan jan... don't cry. Be strong.

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