View Full Version : Trump Picks Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson As Secretary Of State
Don Baldwin
12-11-2016, 08:39 AM
He knows Putin...
It's ALL about the oil...lifeblood of civilization.
MDLNB
12-11-2016, 11:20 AM
He knows Putin...
It's ALL about the oil...lifeblood of civilization.
Let's all get in a panic. The left complains because Trump has chosen a lot of Veterans for his administration. They complain about him choosing some rich for his administration. What do they want? Didn't Obama hire the big deal from GM for his administration?
Time to quit whining liberals. No one has been confirmed yet.
billethkid
12-11-2016, 05:09 PM
I do not know enough to say yeah or nay....yet.
One thing we know for sure is he has most if not all the high level world wide contacts in the oil industry.
This allows him to have a much broader base to deal with on a world wide basis that always being forced to look at the world of oil through the middle east optics.
They are not the center of the universe in the production of oil as we have allowed to to believe they are.
jimbo2012
12-11-2016, 06:15 PM
Media is freaking out that Rex Tillerson has ties to Russia.
Its true that he does.
He also has relationships with:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzaAUsFUsAAtyBL.jpg
Don Baldwin
12-11-2016, 07:44 PM
The spice must flow...the oil must flow.
The problem isn't so much the the reserves, it's getting it out fast enough. The world uses a LOT of oil...EVERY day. 93,000,000 barrels, 3,906,000,000 gallons, that's 4 BILLION gallons of oil used daily. There are 23,000 man hours in a barrel, there's 11 man years of "work" in a barrel (42 gallons) of oil. We use 1,023,000,000 (1 billion), man YEARS of oil per DAY...365 BILLION man YEARS of "work" is consumed yearly. (OIL is what stopped slavery...don't be fooled) It 's what keeps it all going...cheap energy. Cheap abundant energy is the key to success.
janmcn
12-12-2016, 09:22 AM
If Tillerson is the nominee for secretary of state, it is time for the senate to step up and do its advise and consent. This could be a long and contentious hearing.
billethkid
12-12-2016, 09:37 AM
If Tillerson is the nominee for secretary of state, it is time for the senate to step up and do its advise and consent. This could be a long and contentious hearing.
You mean the too long in the tooth, politics as usual, crony, members of the senate?
Of course you jest.The current congress is the classic example of doing the same impossible actions, by the same incompetent people and expecting a different result.
The congress is incapable of evaluating anybody or anything except through their current ineffective political, special interest, self preservation, partisan only lens.
janmcn
12-12-2016, 09:55 AM
You mean the too long in the tooth, politics as usual, crony, members of the senate?
Of course you jest.The current congress is the classic example of doing the same impossible actions, by the same incompetent people and expecting a different result.
The congress is incapable of evaluating anybody or anything except through their current ineffective political, special interest, self preservation, partisan only lens.
Unfortunately for Trump that's the way things work in our constitutional democracy. He was not elected king and will have to depend on the senate to confirm or deny each of his nominees (those requiring confirmation).
billethkid
12-12-2016, 11:38 AM
Unfortunately for Trump that's the way things work in our constitutional democracy. He was not elected king and will have to depend on the senate to confirm or deny each of his nominees (those requiring confirmation).
We may be doomed to the establishment in the short term, but there will be changes made in the near future.
And one thing too many will not understand; if something is not working, not contributing and non value adding, it should be fixed and or eliminated. In the process there will be cushy jobs and beurocracies that will be eliminated. That means putting a good number of establishments jobs out the door.
The opposition and the media will only yap and shout about the cruelties of such axings.
Just like is done when outside companies come into corporate America to fix what is wrong. MOST OF THE TIME the problem is too high of overhead.....PEOPLE.
And they need to be removed to make things work effectively and profitably.
Washington is easy pickings for repair as there is abundant, KNOWN, ineffective and incompetent bloat in the workforce.
The incumbents have the most to lose, hence they make no changes. When they see waste and wrong doing, they do little or nothing as that would be rocking the boat....and they know the crony sytem will get back at them. Hence the wagons are circled 24/7.
janmcn
12-12-2016, 01:25 PM
You mean the too long in the tooth, politics as usual, crony, members of the senate?
Of course you jest.The current congress is the classic example of doing the same impossible actions, by the same incompetent people and expecting a different result.
The congress is incapable of evaluating anybody or anything except through their current ineffective political, special interest, self preservation, partisan only lens.
It is always so amusing to hear the party that just elected the oldest president in US history refer to the congress as "too long in the tooth".
Rockyrd
12-12-2016, 01:41 PM
It is always so amusing to hear the party that just elected the oldest president in US history refer to the congress as "too long in the tooth".
It is amusing...and you and I are on different sides of the aisle normally but the posters on here do not act like conservative Republicans in anyway.
The closest comparison is a book I just am near finishing.."The Untold Story of the Rev. Jim Jones....."
It has all the same attributes.
An immoral leader. A message that anyone is not firmly in our group is against us. An unabashed hatred for any media. The ability to lie quickly and convincingly and then to "suggest" to followers that THEY are the ones being "screwed over".
A leader who preaches one thing and does the other and does it openly with no fear of any follower questioning him. A leader who tapped into the fears of americans but he did it in the 60's. A leader who cut his followers off from outsiders and best he could from any media.
It is from this sad story we get the expression "drink the kool aid" and in no way does my analogies dismiss any good ideas Trump has, and he does as I have acknowledged a number of times, nor does it diminish his followers.
It does allow for the techniques he uses however. He attacks the media for no reason at all , OR just because they do not agree 100% with him. He says he is indebted to nobody, yet we do not now that and each day it becomes more of a suspicious lie.
It relates to your post, because his followers refuse to accept fact as you pointed out.
Government needs changes, but this man is so much the exact opposite of what this country needs. He is a man who will say whatever the last person he was with said to him and as Carl Bernsteins, who knows quite a bit about Presidents who live in a false reality, said recently...."“Trump lives and thrives in a fact-free environment. No president, including Richard Nixon, has been so ignorant of fact and disdains fact in the way that this president-elect does,”
And further adds...."“It has something to do with the growing sense of authoritarianism that he and his presidency are projecting and the danger of it is obvious and he’s trying to make the conduct of the press an issue not his own conduct.”
Carl Bernstein: Donald Trump's Disdain For Facts Worse Than Nixon | The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carl-bernstein-donald-trump_us_584df2b4e4b0bd9c3dfd4c02)
rubicon
12-12-2016, 01:44 PM
What concerns me is that the Establishment both Republican and Democrat and the news media will continue to spread fear mongering concerning anything and everything Trump does in order to discredit Trump validate that liberals were cheated out of this election and mostly to regain power.
The histrionics currently being displayed especially by liberals is simply not helpful nor healthy for this nation and I for one am getting really tired of the baseless tirades
Personal Best Regards:
Rockyrd
12-12-2016, 01:56 PM
What concerns me is that the Establishment both Republican and Democrat and the news media will continue to spread fear mongering concerning anything and everything Trump does in order to discredit Trump validate that liberals were cheated out of this election and mostly to regain power.
The histrionics currently being displayed especially by liberals is simply not helpful nor healthy for this nation and I for one am getting really tired of the baseless tirades
Personal Best Regards:
The only histrionics I hear are from the conspiracy theories that you spread using the "off the wall" websites, some you quote, some you plagerize but the single consistent thread about your posts are to demean media. Media has quotes, facts that can be validated, rules governing when reports can be made.
Your sources are sans any rules, including those of ethics.
The reports on Trump are usually from his own mouth or Twitter. I cannot recall the media simply assuming anything about him. I CAN easilybrecall you and the other conspirators actually making things up..presenting them as facts in a very smug manner.
Sorry, I supported some of what Trump espoused, but each day...no theories...just his mouth convinces me that my original judgement was correct. He quotes Alex Jones, he slaps down IN PUBLIC the US intelligence community, he claims superior intelligence as an excuse for not wanting to know. These and others are not made up things.
Buffalo Jim
12-13-2016, 01:36 PM
The only histrionics I hear are from the conspiracy theories that you spread using the "off the wall" websites, some you quote, some you plagerize but the single consistent thread about your posts are to demean media. Media has quotes, facts that can be validated, rules governing when reports can be made.
Your sources are sans any rules, including those of ethics.
The reports on Trump are usually from his own mouth or Twitter. I cannot recall the media simply assuming anything about him. I CAN easilybrecall you and the other conspirators actually making things up..presenting them as facts in a very smug manner.
Sorry, I supported some of what Trump espoused, but each day...no theories...just his mouth convinces me that my original judgement was correct. He quotes Alex Jones, he slaps down IN PUBLIC the US intelligence community, he claims superior intelligence as an excuse for not wanting to know. These and others are not made up things.
Another Sore Loser heard from .
Rockyrd
12-13-2016, 01:54 PM
Another Sore Loser heard from .
This is just another in the ongoing chest beating posts.
They offer nothing, mean nothing, know nothing but continue with this type of thing.
billethkid
12-13-2016, 02:03 PM
This is just another in the ongoing chest beating posts.
They offer nothing, mean nothing, know nothing but continue with this type of thing.
Actually more appropriate for the loser gripe contingent.
ColdNoMore
12-13-2016, 02:04 PM
The only histrionics I hear are from the conspiracy theories that you spread using the "off the wall" websites, some you quote, some you plagerize but the single consistent thread about your posts are to demean media. Media has quotes, facts that can be validated, rules governing when reports can be made.
Your sources are sans any rules, including those of ethics.
The reports on Trump are usually from his own mouth or Twitter. I cannot recall the media simply assuming anything about him. I CAN easily recall you and the other conspirators actually making things up..presenting them as facts in a very smug manner.
Sorry, I supported some of what Trump espoused, but each day...no theories...just his mouth convinces me that my original judgement was correct. He quotes Alex Jones, he slaps down IN PUBLIC the US intelligence community, he claims superior intelligence as an excuse for not wanting to know. These and others are not made up things.
Yep.
I think the scariest thing for the future of this nation, is the fact that Trump himself provides all of the ammunition...in which to criticize and ridicule him.
I think deep down, he is just smart enough to be scared to death...and knows that he's in way over his head.
Which is the reason he prefers to focus on Twitter and fight with teenagers, where it's impossible to get into any depth...of his total lack of world knowledge.
janmcn
12-13-2016, 02:36 PM
Yep.
I think the scariest thing for the future of this nation, is the fact that Trump himself provides all of the ammunition...in which to criticize and ridicule him.
I think deep down, he is just smart enough to be scared to death...and knows that he's in way over his head.
Which is the reason he prefers to focus on Twitter and fight with teenagers, where it's impossible to get into any depth...of his total lack of world knowledge.
It is called governing by diversion. For example he goes in front of the cameras today and instead of explaining why he canceled his press conference on Thursday, he parades out Kanye West. And of course, guess what is trending on twitter...Kanye West. Nothing to see here except this shiney object.
This is probably not the right time to nominate someone with ties to Russia while this whole Russia hacking investigation is going on. Tillerson may not even make it out of committee when the hearings begin. R's have 10 votes, D's have 9 votes. All it takes is one deflection to kill the nomination.
Chi-Town
12-13-2016, 03:19 PM
This is just another in the ongoing chest beating posts.
They offer nothing, mean nothing, know nothing but continue with this type of thing.
Hmmmm. That sounds like you're describing Buffoono Jim.
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janmcn
12-13-2016, 04:30 PM
If the sanctions against Russia are lifted, Exxon Mobile stands to make $500 billion, and guess who would be a major player in making that happen, Rex Tillerson, coincidence?
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-13-2016, 04:33 PM
Great pick!!!
Another non career politician.
The fact that he has done business with Russia and many other countries may help ease tension in the world.
We voted for change and the change that we wanted was to kick out the career politicians. He'll need a few to help negotiate around Washington, but the politicians that he picks are of the same mindset. We are finally returning to the citizen government that we were always meant to be.
Next up, term limits for congress. Drain the swamp.
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