What's going on with Fox News?

[debbieingigharbor]

I was just watching Fox News and Sheppard Smith just told the truth about the Russian involvement in the presidential election.

Smith needs to be fired immediately! It'll be like a crack in a dam. We need to nip this in the bud. Sure hope Trump doesn't get wind of this.

[Cedwards38]

Wow! Maybe they accidentally discovered they have a conscience, or possibly developed a sense of morality!

[debbieingigharbor]

Wow! Maybe they accidentally discovered they have a conscience, or possibly developed a sense of morality!

:1rotfl:

[jimbo2012]

and a PA Federal Court said no proof


In his 31-page decision, U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond said there were at least six grounds that required him to reject the Green Party's lawsuit, which had been opposed by Trump, the Pennsylvania Republican Party and the Pennsylvania attorney general's office.

Suspicion of a hacked Pennsylvania election "borders on the irrational," wrote Diamond, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, a Republican.

[rustyp]

I was just watching Fox News and Sheppard Smith just told the truth about the Russian involvement in the presidential election.

Smith needs to be fired immediately! It'll be like a crack in a dam. We need to nip this in the bud. Sure hope Trump doesn't get wind of this.

Just curious on how you know what the truth is.

[Rockyrd]

It is very difficult for anyone to deny the Russian hacking.

I can be corrected if wrong with a credible link, but as I understand...

1. The 17 intelligence agencies determined in OCTOBER in both CIA and the FBI agreed the leaks were a result of Russian hacking. This sort of flies in the face of Trumps comments on why no info before election (more to come on that)

2. At present, the CIA believes that both Republican and Democratic Party was hacked. The FBIIs not as certain about the Republican Party. This is what is sending the Trumpers out to the media yelling that it never happened and how they don't agree. What they don't agree on is whether the Republican Party was hacked.

So do not be misled. Trump appears to be more concerned with protecting his "mandate" (of the previous 57 presidential elections, he won by one of smallest margins ever in electoral and of course...right now he has about 46% of the popular vote) than protecting the integrity, not only of our intelligence agencies, but our American electoral system.

[Rockyrd]

and a PA Federal Court said no proof


In his 31-page decision, U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond said there were at least six grounds that required him to reject the Green Party's lawsuit, which had been opposed by Trump, the Pennsylvania Republican Party and the Pennsylvania attorney general's office.

Suspicion of a hacked Pennsylvania election "borders on the irrational," wrote Diamond, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, a Republican.

This thread has nothing to do with any poll problems at all, and nobody BUT HER made such accusations

[debbieingigharbor]

It is very difficult for anyone to deny the Russian hacking.

I can be corrected if wrong with a credible link, but as I understand...

1. The 17 intelligence agencies determined in OCTOBER in both CIA and the FBI agreed the leaks were a result of Russian hacking. This sort of flies in the face of Trumps comments on why no info before election (more to come on that)

2. At present, the CIA believes that both Republican and Democratic Party was hacked. The FBIIs not as certain about the Republican Party. This is what is sending the Trumpers out to the media yelling that it never happened and how they don't agree. What they don't agree on is whether the Republican Party was hacked.

So do not be misled. Trump appears to be more concerned with protecting his "mandate" (of the previous 57 presidential elections, he won by one of smallest margins ever in electoral and of course...right now he has about 46% of the popular vote) than protecting the integrity, not only of our intelligence agencies, but our American electoral system.

It is very difficult for anyone to deny the Russian hacking? You don't give Trump or Trumpsters enough credit. They will find a way; Liberal media? Democrats are making it up? Jealous federal agencies? Trump is nothing if not creative.

[rustyp]

Must be factual as reported by CNN

[rustyp]

oh yes also it was fact checked on the reliable inner web at one of those fact checker sites that allow anyone to contribute

[debbieingigharbor]

Must be factual as reported by CNN

So you're saying your fox news was lying as well?

[rubicon]

It is very difficult for anyone to deny the Russian hacking.

I can be corrected if wrong with a credible link, but as I understand...

1. The 17 intelligence agencies determined in OCTOBER in both CIA and the FBI agreed the leaks were a result of Russian hacking. This sort of flies in the face of Trumps comments on why no info before election (more to come on that)

2. At present, the CIA believes that both Republican and Democratic Party was hacked. The FBIIs not as certain about the Republican Party. This is what is sending the Trumpers out to the media yelling that it never happened and how they don't agree. What they don't agree on is whether the Republican Party was hacked.

So do not be misled. Trump appears to be more concerned with protecting his "mandate" (of the previous 57 presidential elections, he won by one of smallest margins ever in electoral and of course...right now he has about 46% of the popular vote) than protecting the integrity, not only of our intelligence agencies, but our American electoral system.

Dear Guest:

Let's say for the sake of discussion that it was the Russians that hacked the DNC.

If this is true then it begs the following two questions

1. Why is it that the DNC, Hillary, et al have not challenged the contents authenticity?

2. why is it that a foreign government ferrets out information important to our election and not our own news agencies? Where are all the Bernstein's and Woodwards?

Essentially despite the mainstream media manipulations in favor of progressives the American voter spoke. I do agree that there is hype on both sides but the Electoral College tally is not hype.

Personal Best Regards:

[jimbo2012]

The recounts showed us - NO RUSSIAN TAMPERING.

Media are such idiots.


A federal judge said there's no proof what so ever

[Chi-Town]

Sheppard Smith is the only reason to turn on Fox.

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[rustyp]

So you're saying your fox news was lying as well?

I trust the media as well as I trust the info on this blog. Ever notice freedom of speech is safe with the media if they say "it has been reported by another news source" or use the word "allegedly"? News flash let "our" panel of experts tell you what they were saying. It amazes me how many people have these 24 hour new channels on all day and don't realize it's little more than entertainment TV.

[MDLNB]

Sheppard Smith is the only reason to turn on Fox.

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Can't stand Sheppard and will not listen to that idiot blather on and on with his stupid innuendos and theories. He sounds like a liberal, and probably is one.

Most of FOX is not conservative enough to suit me. And I think that the new, younger management are left leaning.

[debbieingigharbor]

Can't stand Sheppard and will not listen to that idiot blather on and on with his stupid innuendos and theories. He sounds like a liberal, and probably is one.

Most of FOX is not conservative enough to suit me. And I think that the new, younger management are left leaning.

Used to be that all the right wing wacko's would say that EVERY news outlet was bias except for Fox. Now you're saying even Fox isn't wacko enough for you? Wow, your options keep getting fewer and fewer. I guess you'll just have to listen to yourself pretty soon, or, that voice you keep hearing. :BigApplause:

[billethkid]

The recounts showed us - NO RUSSIAN TAMPERING.

Media are such idiots.


A federal judge said there's no proof what so ever

Funny how the opposing side accepted this kind of verification about the candidate for president they got stuck backing.....that lost

[Rockyrd]

Dear Guest:

Let's say for the sake of discussion that it was the Russians that hacked the DNC.

If this is true then it begs the following two questions

1. Why is it that the DNC, Hillary, et al have not challenged the contents authenticity?

2. why is it that a foreign government ferrets out information important to our election and not our own news agencies? Where are all the Bernstein's and Woodwards?

Essentially despite the mainstream media manipulations in favor of progressives the American voter spoke. I do agree that there is hype on both sides but the Electoral College tally is not hype.

Personal Best Regards:

Do you even try to get information ?

1. NOBODY, at any time, has ever questioned the contents at all. We were hacked...this is what was leaked. What the heck are you even talking about ?

2. So you want our news agencies to hack into parties networks. Hard to respond to such a stupid remark. You also should look at what Bernstein thinks about all this crap. He has been clear, but in the websites you frequent, you will never see it.

A post from a man who reads and plagiarizes a Russian friendly website, and wonders why our press is not hacking files within the country pretty much sums up where your mind is

[Rockyrd]

Dear Guest:

Let's say for the sake of discussion that it was the Russians that hacked the DNC.

If this is true then it begs the following two questions

1. Why is it that the DNC, Hillary, et al have not challenged the contents authenticity?

2. why is it that a foreign government ferrets out information important to our election and not our own news agencies? Where are all the Bernstein's and Woodwards?

Essentially despite the mainstream media manipulations in favor of progressives the American voter spoke. I do agree that there is hype on both sides but the Electoral College tally is not hype.

Personal Best Regards:

By the way, I suppose it is only poetic justice that you whacko extremist on the right would speak of the Electoral College, as only the whacko left wing people discuss it. BUT, you only read whacko extreme things so you wouldnt know.

[rustyp]

Wasn't yesterday's lead story about fake news sites and the harm they may cause?

[tcxr750]

How does hacking benefit Russia, China, North Korea. Stealing information, stealing technology, manipulating opinion. It is happening all the time. Do your own impartial research.

[rustyp]

Is there some kind of international law against hacking ? I'm sure we would never do it.

[janmcn]

Is there some kind of international law against hacking ? I'm sure we would never do it.


Yes, it is called the Espionage Act.

[Buffalo Jim]

I was just watching Fox News and Sheppard Smith just told the truth about the Russian involvement in the presidential election.

Smith needs to be fired immediately! It'll be like a crack in a dam. We need to nip this in the bud. Sure hope Trump doesn't get wind of this.

How do you know that it was the truth ? Do you work for Putin ?
Or are you just reflecting the Talking Points put out by your fellow Socialists at the DNC ?

[rustyp]

Yes, it is called the Espionage Act.

who authored it ? In which chapter does it give the rules about computers ? Who signed it and agreed to it ? And you also believe we would abide by it ?

[Rockyrd]

How do you know that it was the truth ? Do you work for Putin ?
Or are you just reflecting the Talking Points put out by your fellow Socialists at the DNC ?

I am curious...you also dismiss ALL the intelligence agencies in the country.

WHO do you trust ? Are you relying in our election of the guy who says he does not need frequent briefings because he "is smart" ?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

From USA Today:

Q&A: Why the CIA, FBI differ on Russian election hacking (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/cia-fbi-russian-election-hacking-trump-clinton/95329212/)
(http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/cia-fbi-russian-election-hacking-trump-clinton/95329212/)

Q: Is there suspicion that Russian hackers may have tampered with votes?

A: No. Federal officials, including Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and FBI Director James Comey, have said that the decentralized nature of voting systems across the U.S. poses a difficult target for hackers.

"In our judgment, it would be very difficult to alter a ballot count in any one place and have a significant consequence,'' Johnson said in an interview last month with USA TODAY.

[Rockyrd]

From USA Today:

Q&A: Why the CIA, FBI differ on Russian election hacking (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/cia-fbi-russian-election-hacking-trump-clinton/95329212/)
(http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/cia-fbi-russian-election-hacking-trump-clinton/95329212/)

Q: Is there suspicion that Russian hackers may have tampered with votes?

A: No. Federal officials, including Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and FBI Director James Comey, have said that the decentralized nature of voting systems across the U.S. poses a difficult target for hackers.

"In our judgment, it would be very difficult to alter a ballot count in any one place and have a significant consequence,'' Johnson said in an interview last month with USA TODAY.

Has someone in the news or on this forum ever made this claim ?

If so, I missed it...seems it was asked simply because if the other hacking.
Never saw this claim made, but whomever did is foolish

Gee hacking votes would require hacking into states , right ?

[MDLNB]

All intelligence agencies "hack" other countries, including the USA. It's what they do with the information that they obtain that matters. What do you think that NSA, the CIA and DIA do? People act surprised, like they don't even have a clue as to what is done by intelligence agencies.

[Rockyrd]

All intelligence agencies "hack" other countries, including the USA. It's what they do with the information that they obtain that matters. What do you think that NSA, the CIA and DIA do? People act surprised, like they don't even have a clue as to what is done by intelligence agencies.

Yeah...let's just forget it. Heck, everyone's doing it.

Who cares, right ?

[Buffalo Jim]

It is very difficult for anyone to deny the Russian hacking.

I can be corrected if wrong with a credible link, but as I understand...

1. The 17 intelligence agencies determined in OCTOBER in both CIA and the FBI agreed the leaks were a result of Russian hacking. This sort of flies in the face of Trumps comments on why no info before election (more to come on that)

2. At present, the CIA believes that both Republican and Democratic Party was hacked. The FBIIs not as certain about the Republican Party. This is what is sending the Trumpers out to the media yelling that it never happened and how they don't agree. What they don't agree on is whether the Republican Party was hacked.

So do not be misled. Trump appears to be more concerned with protecting his "mandate" (of the previous 57 presidential elections, he won by one of smallest margins ever in electoral and of course...right now he has about 46% of the popular vote) than protecting the integrity, not only of our intelligence agencies, but our American electoral system.

Wha ! Wha ! Wha ! Thank-you for being a loud and proud Sore Loser ! Loser !!

[rustyp]

Yeah...let's just forget it. Heck, everyone's doing it.

Who cares, right ?

Yep closet thing I heard that's plausible. Or could it be that it's OK that we do it in the name of national security but if it's done to us that constitutes warfare.
I still searching for the line item details of the espionage act.

[MDLNB]

Yeah...let's just forget it. Heck, everyone's doing it.

Who cares, right ?

I don't believe that I said anything about "forgetting it." Sorry, but since I am not a liberal, I do not understand your girly hysteria over it. Example: NSA has been listening in on Russian telephone conversations since at least the 70's, if not earlier. What do you think, that every country works on the honor system?

Personally, I think that you lefty losers are just grasping at straws, hoping for a miracle that criminal Hillary might still have a chance of living in the White House again.

[graciegirl]

Fox News is number one viewed National New Network, consistently and over time.

Watch it and see that they are better journalists than the other two.

CNN Sees Big Jump In Q1 Ratings, But Fox News Still Tops All | The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/01/cable-news-ratings-q1-2015-cnn-msnbc_n_6984866.html)

[jimbo2012]

Fox News is number one viewed National New Network, consistently and over time.

Watch it and see that they are better journalists than the other two.



More than the other two

that link was old, but a search shows Fox as #1 by far.

Tucker Carlson is getting traction.

But real up to the minute news is Twitter by far

[ColdNoMore]

STUDY: Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5)


STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All


Which certainly explains a number of prolific posters...here on TOTV. :ohdear:

[MDLNB]

STUDY: Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5)





Which certainly explains a number of prolific posters...here on TOTV. :ohdear:

Half of FOX viewers are either Democrats or Independents. FOX thanks you liberals for making it number one. Without your viewership, they could not have done it.

[graciegirl]

Half of FOX viewers are either Democrats or Independents. FOX thanks you liberals for making it number one. Without your viewership, they could not have done it.

I know for a fact that Fox News employees liberals and independents to an extent that shows they don't hire by politics.

[janmcn]

STUDY: Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5)





Which certainly explains a number of prolific posters...here on TOTV. :ohdear:


This is not good news for Trump who said he gets all his security briefings from the shows.