Presidential Approval Ratings

[Sandtrap328]

Pres. Obama will be leaving office with a job approval rating over 53 percent.

Jimmy Carter left office with a 34 percent approval rating.

George W. Bush left office with a 23 percent approval rating.

Bill Clinton had a 66 percent approval rating.

WTF George??

[ColdNoMore]

At least you're stating actual facts, even if it will enrage those on the right...and the Chump supporters. :thumbup:

But to be fair, I can't wait to see the comparisons between Obama and Chump...at comparable points in their presidency.

The odds are though, that the comparisons won't last much more than a couple of years...as Chump quits from pressure in his own party.

I can already hear the whining, screaming and crying from the Chumpsters, as his approval rating starts tanking shortly after he takes office...and then falls precipitously even from that lowly level. :1rotfl:

[rubicon]

So I'll bet if those stats being quoted favored Bush they would be denigrated. Personally I have no confidence in any stats produced by any organization or individual. Either by error or hyperbole they do no reflect the factual picture. However they are used because its convenient and easy for people eyes

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

At least you're stating actual facts, even if it will enrage those on the right...and the Chump supporters. :thumbup:

But to be fair, I can't wait to see the comparisons between Obama and Chump...at comparable points in their presidency.

The odds are though, that the comparisons won't last much more than a couple of years...as Chump quits from pressure in his own party.

I can already hear the whining, screaming and crying from the Chumpsters, as his approval rating starts tanking shortly after he takes office...and then falls precipitously even from that lowly level. :1rotfl:

Approval rating? Another worthless poll... It just shows how well the president is lying to the people, whether they've figured it out or not...IF there's ANY truth in it at all.

[LittleLatinaWife]

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[MDLNB]

The people polled are the same folks that said Trump couldn't win and that Obama would make a good president. Bush was a good president until the last two years when his administration was sabotaged by a Democrat controlled congress. That is when the country when to ****. But, no matter how much the present Entertainer-in-chief smiles and how high his approval rating goes up, he will never achieve the 90% approval rating that Bush had during his tenure. Not that it really matters, because polling really doesn't substitute for truth. The fact is that Bush kept us from being attacked (after 9/11) again by his immediate response against the terrorists. At least, that is what the captured terrorist Khalid Sheik Mohammed said. "

[debbieingigharbor]

The people polled are the same folks that said Trump couldn't win and that Obama would make a good president. Bush was a good president until the last two years when his administration was sabotaged by a Democrat controlled congress. That is when the country when to ****. But, no matter how much the present Entertainer-in-chief smiles and how high his approval rating goes up, he will never achieve the 90% approval rating that Bush had during his tenure. Not that it really matters, because polling really doesn't substitute for truth. The fact is that Bush kept us from being attacked (after 9/11) again by his immediate response against the terrorists. At least, that is what the captured terrorist Khalid Sheik Mohammed said. "

I like the "after 9/11" part! :a20:

So, what you're saying is if anything good happens it's because of the republican president and if anything bad happens it's because of the democratically controlled congress. Wow, you got it covered. It's funny how people can rationalize anything.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Approval rating? Another worthless poll... It just shows how well the president is lying to the people, whether they've figured it out or not...IF there's ANY truth in it at all.

It also shows how much the press influences what people think.

[Don Baldwin]

I like the "after 9/11" part! :a20:

So, what you're saying is if anything good happens it's because of the republican president and if anything bad happens it's because of the democratically controlled congress. Wow, you got it covered. It's funny how people can rationalize anything.

Yes...like either political party is good. Like the races and men and women are "equal", interchangeable. Like there's a man in space who knows everything about everything...even before it happens. And yet, his former right hand man, tricked him and is now a mortal enemy. If God IS omnipotent, why not just snuff evil out? Why not make EARTH "heaven? Satan's "sin", like ours was USING free will.

The word satan means "aadversary", "to obstruct, oppose". His "sin"...not doing what he was told. Religion is a conditioning tool...make no mistake.

It also shows how much the press influences what people think.

The media TELLS you WHAT to think...the "news" is more opinion than facts. They tell you what happened and by their words, tone, and body language, tell you whether it's good or bad. Whether you should agree or not.

[graciegirl]

I felt like a stepchild for eight years. Now I can be Christian and white without any disapproval from Washington.

Merry Christmas and God bless us every one.

[billethkid]

Approval numbers?
Kidding right?
Remember the numbers game that had Clinton by a landslide?
Remember during the primaries when Clinton's numbers said she would take MI by double digits? She lost by double digits!!!

How about the odds makers for the election itself showing Clinton by huge numbers?

Approval numbers?....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[rjm1cc]

Pres. Obama will be leaving office with a job approval rating over 53 percent.

Jimmy Carter left office with a 34 percent approval rating.

George W. Bush left office with a 23 percent approval rating.

Bill Clinton had a 66 percent approval rating.

WTF George??

And is the world better off?

[Allegiance]

I felt like a stepchild for eight years. Now I can be Christian and white without any disapproval from Washington.

Merry Christmas and God bless us every one.
Each and every one. And God, my last prayer.... cure the liberals.

[Rockyrd]

I felt like a stepchild for eight years. Now I can be Christian and white without any disapproval from Washington.

Merry Christmas and God bless us every one.

How vile this post is....to use God's blessing to allow your labeling by religion and color of skin.

May my heart never turn this gray to label and need some kind of whatever you lack to insure your identity by religion or color of skin.

May my heart never allow a need to know your religion or skin color before approval.

An you wonder why this presidential campaign has awakened and given such hope the white supremicists in this country.

I have read your posts for years, chiding others for hating and judging.....obviously you play a part....you play a role.

There is not one government rule or regulation that comes from Washington DC THAT in anyway would make anyone feel disapproval for their religion or color of skin and saying that is simply, once and for all, assuring the reason you hate, and I feel your hate, the President.

George Bush went out of his way to say exactly what Obama has been saying about both Muslims and blacks and you applauded him as I recall. He delivered the same message and I can only see one difference...he is white.

I oppose just about 100% of Obama policies and have for 8 years, but NEVER thought of reducing it to religion and skin color. That is a shame that you would do this.

Well,

"Trump's decision to name former Breitbart executive Steve Bannon as his chief strategist, telling CNN in interviews they view Bannon as an advocate in the White House for policies they favor.

The leaders of the white nationalist and so-called "alt-right" movement — all of whom vehemently oppose multiculturalism and share the belief in the supremacy of the white race and Western civilization — publicly backed Trump during his campaign for his hardline positions on Mexican immigration, Muslims, and refugee resettlement. Trump has at times disavowed their support. Bannon's hiring, they say, is a signal that Trump will follow through on some of his more controversial policy positions."

White nationalists see advocate in Steve Bannon who will hold Trump to his campaign promises
- CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/white-nationalists-on-bannon/)

As I struggle to support the Trump upcoming presidency, posts like this and others simply make that more difficult.

I find it impossible to hate this much and to put every human being into a pigeon hole to judge.

I can say that no Presidency has ever made me feel like a step child because of religion or skin color. My religion and my feelings toward others is not decided by my President, nor do I expect him to change my soul.

[MDLNB]

How vile this post is....to use God's blessing to allow your labeling by religion and color of skin.

May my heart never turn this gray to label and need some kind of whatever you lack to insure your identity by religion or color of skin.

May my heart never allow a need to know your religion or skin color before approval.

An you wonder why this presidential campaign has awakened and given such hope the white supremicists in this country.

I have read your posts for years, chiding others for hating and judging.....obviously you play a part....you play a role.

There is not one government rule or regulation that comes from Washington DC THAT in anyway would make anyone feel disapproval for their religion or color of skin and saying that is simply, once and for all, assuring the reason you hate, and I feel your hate, the President.

George Bush went out of his way to say exactly what Obama has been saying about both Muslims and blacks and you applauded him as I recall. He delivered the same message and I can only see one difference...he is white.

I oppose just about 100% of Obama policies and have for 8 years, but NEVER thought of reducing it to religion and skin color. That is a shame that you would do this.

Well,

"Trump's decision to name former Breitbart executive Steve Bannon as his chief strategist, telling CNN in interviews they view Bannon as an advocate in the White House for policies they favor.

The leaders of the white nationalist and so-called "alt-right" movement — all of whom vehemently oppose multiculturalism and share the belief in the supremacy of the white race and Western civilization — publicly backed Trump during his campaign for his hardline positions on Mexican immigration, Muslims, and refugee resettlement. Trump has at times disavowed their support. Bannon's hiring, they say, is a signal that Trump will follow through on some of his more controversial policy positions."

White nationalists see advocate in Steve Bannon who will hold Trump to his campaign promises
- CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/white-nationalists-on-bannon/)

As I struggle to support the Trump upcoming presidency, posts like this and others simply make that more difficult.

I find it impossible to hate this much and to put every human being into a pigeon hole to judge.

I can say that no Presidency has ever made me feel like a step child because of religion or skin color. My religion and my feelings toward others is not decided by my President, nor do I expect him to change my soul.

You're still in denial. Oh well, some folks really are too old to learn. You proved that.

[debbieingigharbor]

It also shows how much the press influences what people think.

That darn liberal press! Dam, it's been 15 whole minutes since I've hard a republican use that excuse. You folks are sheep. :wave:

[MDLNB]

I like the "after 9/11" part! :a20:

So, what you're saying is if anything good happens it's because of the republican president and if anything bad happens it's because of the democratically controlled congress. Wow, you got it covered. It's funny how people can rationalize anything.

Yes Debbie, you are very good at rationalizing Hillary's loss and Obama's complete failure.

Ask Bill Clinton why he didn't kill Bin laden when he had a chance....several times. Maybe that had something to do with the attack on NYC.

Guess what? Hillary lost and she isn't coming back. Get over it.

[MDLNB]

That darn liberal press! Dam, it's been 15 whole minutes since I've hard a republican use that excuse. You folks are sheep. :wave:

Sure Debbie, like you liberals are not in lock step with the leftwing media. But, FOX loves you and thanks you for helping to make them number one. Without you liberals, FOX would not be doing so well, year after year.

[debbieingigharbor]

Originally Posted by graciegirl
I felt like a stepchild for eight years. Now I can be Christian and white without any disapproval from Washington.

Merry Christmas and God bless us every one.

Oh, poor white Christian woman. Must be tough being in the majority.

[Chi-Town]

I felt like a stepchild for eight years. Now I can be Christian and white without any disapproval from Washington.

Merry Christmas and God bless us every one.
Christian and white. Really GG?

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[Rockyrd]

You're still in denial. Oh well, some folks really are too old to learn. You proved that.

No denial on WHO won the election at all. THAT seems to be your focus and the feeling of being on this forum is.....self gratification.

Still working on the labeling and hating people because of that labeling. That is foreign to me, and to what I thought the country was about. I know my heart and soul reject it.

No President or political party will change my heart, including the one leaving or the one in the wings. THAT is what being an american is all about frankly.

To say you feel like a stepchild because of ANYTHING is just silly. No laws were passed to do that or even hint at it. Laws were passed I did not agree with, but they did no affect how I felt as a christian or how I felt about my skin color. I did not look at or judge Pres Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, or Bush 2 by their skin color or religion and did not judge President Obama in that manner. I judged them on my feelings about the actions taken by them as men in office.

The post to which I replied did not reference any legislation or anything tangible that would make that stepchild feeling become a reality.

If it is what is said.....did not notice any difference in how I felt about my religion or skin color when Johnson passed the civil rights act, when Bush defended the muslim religion or any other words spoken by these men.

If you are having feelings of a step child in the last 8 years it is because the color of the skin is important to you....do not tell me it is because of riots or disagreements by blacks, because if one black man in the WH made you feel like a step child, you must understand the feelings of black people, who DID in fact need laws passed to become equal.

If you feel like a step child because of entitlement programs the perhaps paying attention to the necessity for those programs and WHY, instead of the skin color of those receiving it. There are many folks with YOUR SKIN COLOR who fit the niche you put ALL black people in, but you readily accept them.

If you and the poster feel that way, imagine how those folks felt who DID have laws passed to keep them down because of their religion or skin color !!!!

[MDLNB]

No denial on WHO won the election at all. THAT seems to be your focus and the feeling of being on this forum is.....self gratification.

Still working on the labeling and hating people because of that labeling. That is foreign to me, and to what I thought the country was about. I know my heart and soul reject it.

No President or political party will change my heart, including the one leaving or the one in the wings. THAT is what being an american is all about frankly.

To say you feel like a stepchild because of ANYTHING is just silly. No laws were passed to do that or even hint at it. Laws were passed I did not agree with, but they did no affect how I felt as a christian or how I felt about my skin color. I did not look at or judge Pres Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, or Bush 2 by their skin color or religion and did not judge President Obama in that manner. I judged them on my feelings about the actions taken by them as men in office.

The post to which I replied did not reference any legislation or anything tangible that would make that stepchild feeling become a reality.

If it is what is said.....did not notice any difference in how I felt about my religion or skin color when Johnson passed the civil rights act, when Bush defended the muslim religion or any other words spoken by these men.

If you are having feelings of a step child in the last 8 years it is because the color of the skin is important to you....do not tell me it is because of riots or disagreements by blacks, because if one black man in the WH made you feel like a step child, you must understand the feelings of black people, who DID in fact need laws passed to become equal.

If you feel like a step child because of entitlement programs the perhaps paying attention to the necessity for those programs and WHY, instead of the skin color of those receiving it. There are many folks with YOUR SKIN COLOR who fit the niche you put ALL black people in, but you readily accept them.

If you and the poster feel that way, imagine how those folks felt who DID have laws passed to keep them down because of their religion or skin color !!!!

Wow, either stop drinking or smoking the wacky weed or try to figure out which poster you are replying to. Your rambling reply to my post certainly had nothing to do with one of mine. Isn't it kind of early to be consuming inhibitors, Rocky?

[Rockyrd]

Wow, either stop drinking or smoking the wacky weed or try to figure out which poster you are replying to. Your rambling reply to my post certainly had nothing to do with one of mine. Isn't it kind of early to be consuming inhibitors, Rocky?

Just for the record...do not drink or smoke anything...OK now ?

I replied to your juvenile post in my first sentence....

Your post...

"You're still in denial. Oh well, some folks really are too old to learn. You proved that."


Which has ZERO to do with the post you supposedly replied to...
and my response to your little quip...

"
No denial on WHO won the election at all. THAT seems to be your focus and the feeling of being on this forum is.....self gratification."

Ok now ?

Please, now go back to insulting others based on whatever criteria you are using today to make yourself feel good

[janmcn]

The people polled are the same folks that said Trump couldn't win and that Obama would make a good president. Bush was a good president until the last two years when his administration was sabotaged by a Democrat controlled congress. That is when the country when to ****. But, no matter how much the present Entertainer-in-chief smiles and how high his approval rating goes up, he will never achieve the 90% approval rating that Bush had during his tenure. Not that it really matters, because polling really doesn't substitute for truth. The fact is that Bush kept us from being attacked (after 9/11) again by his immediate response against the terrorists. At least, that is what the captured terrorist Khalid Sheik Mohammed said. "

Too, too amusing. "Bush kept us from being attacked (after 9/11)".

W Bush had no drowning deaths on his watch (after Katrina).

W Bush never lied us in to an unnecessary war (except for Iraq).

[MDLNB]

Too, too amusing. "Bush kept us from being attacked (after 9/11)".

W Bush had no drowning deaths on his watch (after Katrina).

W Bush never lied us in to an unnecessary war (except for Iraq).

Suit yourself, but he was still better than Obie. You can't even name one redeeming trait that Obie has other than he looks good on late night TV comedy shows.

[Sandtrap328]

Suit yourself, but he was still better than Obie. You can't even name one redeeming trait that Obie has other than he looks good on late night TV comedy shows.

Accomplished getting the USA out of the deep recession that Bush got the country into.

The stock market more than doubled! Your 401k looks good now.

Ossama bin Laden killed during his term. Bush could not have done that.

9/11 happened during Bush term.

Trait: great speaker - Bush was not a good speaker.

Bush has a low IQ for a President (110). Obama has 142.

[janmcn]

Pres. Obama will be leaving office with a job approval rating over 53 percent.

Jimmy Carter left office with a 34 percent approval rating.

George W. Bush left office with a 23 percent approval rating.

Bill Clinton had a 66 percent approval rating.

WTF George??


President Obama won't have to take up painting in his life after the White House. He already has a 15 million dollar book deal. That should pay the bills for a few years.

[autumnspring]

At least you're stating actual facts, even if it will enrage those on the right...and the Chump supporters. :thumbup:

But to be fair, I can't wait to see the comparisons between Obama and Chump...at comparable points in their presidency.

The odds are though, that the comparisons won't last much more than a couple of years...as Chump quits from pressure in his own party.

I can already hear the whining, screaming and crying from the Chumpsters, as his approval rating starts tanking shortly after he takes office...and then falls precipitously even from that lowly level. :1rotfl:

it is PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP
SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP IS MY ADVICE TO YOU.
This is not a FOOLS SPORTING EVENT.

If, PRESIDENT TRUMP is successful WE ALL WIN INCLUDING YOU.

[Rockyrd]

it is PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP
SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP IS MY ADVICE TO YOU.
This is not a FOOLS SPORTING EVENT.

If, PRESIDENT TRUMP is successful WE ALL WIN INCLUDING YOU.

And if he fails, we also all will fail

[MDLNB]

And if he fails, we also all will fail

Yep, we have just endured that for the past 8 years. Oh, it didn't effect you? You must be one of the few that profited from Obie's freebies.

[MDLNB]

Accomplished getting the USA out of the deep recession that Bush got the country into.

The stock market more than doubled! Your 401k looks good now.

Ossama bin Laden killed during his term. Bush could not have done that.

9/11 happened during Bush term.

Trait: great speaker - Bush was not a good speaker.

Bush has a low IQ for a President (110). Obama has 142.

Like I said, name something that OBAMA accomplished. Next thing you will do is divert to giving us a history lesson on Nixon. I do sympathize with you. I bet it is tough trying to produce something good to say about Obama, other than the fact that he seems to have great teeth, that sparkle nicely on late night TV.

[billethkid]

If he did not have the office of POTUS to draw a crowd he would be a no show event......like he was before he came out of the dark corners of Chicago to run for POTUS.

[Chi-Town]

If he did not have the office of POTUS to draw a crowd he would be a no show event......like he was before he came out of the dark corners of Chicago to run for POTUS.
How do you think someone from the dark corners of Chicago (nice racial inuendo) became a two term President?




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[janmcn]

If he did not have the office of POTUS to draw a crowd he would be a no show event......like he was before he came out of the dark corners of Chicago to run for POTUS.


Do you mean the dark corners of Chicago like the IL state senate and the US Senate?

At this point in 2008, Obama's job approval rating was 78%, which means that 25% of people who did not vote for him thought he was doing a good job.

Obama was too busy in 2008 trying to rescue the economy from destruction to be running around the country giving victory speeches and bashing John McCain. Trump did his own version of this.

[Allegiance]

Do you mean the dark corners of Chicago like the IL state senate and the US Senate?

At this point in 2008, Obama's job approval rating was 78%, which means that 25% of people who did not vote for him thought he was doing a good job.

Obama was too busy in 2008 trying to rescue the economy from destruction to be running around the country giving victory speeches and bashing John McCain. Trump did his own version of this.
Bradley effect, nothing more

[Don Baldwin]

How do you think someone from the dark corners of Chicago (nice racial inuendo) became a two term President?




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The REAL people in power PUT him there?

Come on...he came out of nowhere...literally.

You think "the people have won" because Trump got elected? Trump is there because those in power want him there. Trump will borrow/spend like a mad man! And those in power LOVE that!

[graciegirl]

How vile this post is....to use God's blessing to allow your labeling by religion and color of skin.

May my heart never turn this gray to label and need some kind of whatever you lack to insure your identity by religion or color of skin.

May my heart never allow a need to know your religion or skin color before approval.

An you wonder why this presidential campaign has awakened and given such hope the white supremicists in this country.

I have read your posts for years, chiding others for hating and judging.....obviously you play a part....you play a role.

There is not one government rule or regulation that comes from Washington DC THAT in anyway would make anyone feel disapproval for their religion or color of skin and saying that is simply, once and for all, assuring the reason you hate, and I feel your hate, the President.

George Bush went out of his way to say exactly what Obama has been saying about both Muslims and blacks and you applauded him as I recall. He delivered the same message and I can only see one difference...he is white.

I oppose just about 100% of Obama policies and have for 8 years, but NEVER thought of reducing it to religion and skin color. That is a shame that you would do this.

Well,

"Trump's decision to name former Breitbart executive Steve Bannon as his chief strategist, telling CNN in interviews they view Bannon as an advocate in the White House for policies they favor.

The leaders of the white nationalist and so-called "alt-right" movement — all of whom vehemently oppose multiculturalism and share the belief in the supremacy of the white race and Western civilization — publicly backed Trump during his campaign for his hardline positions on Mexican immigration, Muslims, and refugee resettlement. Trump has at times disavowed their support. Bannon's hiring, they say, is a signal that Trump will follow through on some of his more controversial policy positions."

White nationalists see advocate in Steve Bannon who will hold Trump to his campaign promises
- CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/white-nationalists-on-bannon/)

As I struggle to support the Trump upcoming presidency, posts like this and others simply make that more difficult.

I find it impossible to hate this much and to put every human being into a pigeon hole to judge. REALLY????

I can say that no Presidency has ever made me feel like a step child because of religion or skin color. My religion and my feelings toward others is not decided by my President, nor do I expect him to change my soul.




I felt like a stepchild for eight years. Now I can be Christian and white without approval from Washington. We are who we are...all of us. Other people with their hatred and labels don't change that. We didn't ask to be white but we chose to be Christian.

God help us. All of us.

[Rockyrd]

I felt like a stepchild for eight years. Now I can be Christian and white without approval from Washington. We are who we are...all of us. Other people with their hatred and labels don't change that. We didn't ask to be white but we chose to be Christian.

God help us. All of us.

WOW...color of skin is very important to you obviously, and you cannot even see your OWN hatred.

Not sure how you were given a sign of non approval fron Washington DC , but it appears that YOU need some validation to be considered as better than others because you are white.

If the election of Obama, and he being black invalidated you, and signaled non approval, imagine how those who are not white feel now and have felt through history.BUT then again, they are not YOU who have superiority as your birthright.

Your insinuation by inserting a comment in my post is insulting at best, but I am beginning to understand quite a bit recently about posters who I thought I knew and respected.

As you know very well, I am not black, and not a supporter of President Obama in anyway. If you feel not agreeing with someone's policies requires to hate him because he is black, then sadly I cannot do that. I will continue to disagree with him, and not hate.

Having read your posts for years, and developed respect, I am a bit taken back by seeing qualities I never thought existed.

If you feel hated, not respected, or non approved because of your skin color, I really have no comment for you.

[debbieingigharbor]

Accomplished getting the USA out of the deep recession that Bush got the country into.

The stock market more than doubled! Your 401k looks good now.

Ossama bin Laden killed during his term. Bush could not have done that.

9/11 happened during Bush term.

Trait: great speaker - Bush was not a good speaker.

Bush has a low IQ for a President (110). Obama has 142.

There you go again with FACTS! Please knock it off. Now I have to watch more Fox News to spin those facts.

[graciegirl]

WOW...color of skin is very important to you obviously, and you cannot even see your OWN hatred.

Not sure how you were given a sign of non approval fron Washington DC , but it appears that YOU need some validation to be considered as better than others because you are white.

If the election of Obama, and he being black invalidated you, and signaled non approval, imagine how those who are not white feel now and have felt through history.BUT then again, they are not YOU who have superiority as your birthright.

Your insinuation by inserting a comment in my post is insulting at best, but I am beginning to understand quite a bit recently about posters who I thought I knew and respected.

As you know very well, I am not black, and not a supporter of President Obama in anyway. If you feel not agreeing with someone's policies requires to hate him because he is black, then sadly I cannot do that. I will continue to disagree with him, and not hate.

Having read your posts for years, and developed respect, I am a bit taken back by seeing qualities I never thought existed.

If you feel hated, not respected, or non approved because of your skin color, I really have no comment for you.


That is a relief. You certainly have some far out ideas.

[Rockyrd]

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That is a relief. You certainly have some far out ideas.

Strange. You used to agree with me totally, or at least that is what you said.

I have not changed one iota, except a very lukewarm feeling on our new President, mostly based on his character and lack of transparency, items that you used to agree on.

On the issues, I am the same Bucco (Rags) as always. My personal or political feelings have not budged.

On race, which is suddenly your issue, I have not changed a bit. I recognize the issues you label as race as economic issues, and always have.

So, my "far out ideas", and for my own good, I feel I should clarify, do not include any of the Alt Right, white supremacy, radical Russian views. I still read the media, which suddenly is hated, but I do read, and not simply accept. I do believe, unlike some, the media is vital to our democracy. I believe and have not changed for years in immigration reform that includes what has already begun....tight and nforcement of existing law, but not a vocally claimed Wall, nor the refusal to allow one religion to come to our country.

All how I felt in the past.

[ColdNoMore]

I felt like a stepchild for eight years. Now I can be Christian and white without approval from Washington.

Wow, such an unexpected gift. :thumbup:

While I (and others) long ago saw through your rice paper thin facade of normalcy/decency (I mean really, who needs to 'friend' over 600 people on this site alone? :oops:), for you to finally admit publicly your racism and bigotry...is a welcome surprise. :ho:

And sorry, real Christians...don't act and think like you. :ohdear:

Thanks for that. :BigApplause:

[graciegirl]

Wow, such an unexpected gift. :thumbup:

While I (and others) long ago saw through your rice paper thin facade of normalcy/decency (I mean really, who needs to 'friend' over 600 people on this site alone? :oops:), for you to finally admit publicly your racism and bigotry...is a welcome surprise. :ho:

And sorry, real Christians...don't act and think like you. :ohdear:

Thanks for that. :BigApplause:


I cannot see how you can interpret this as negative. I am white and I am Christian. You wouldn't quarrel with someone who said "I am black and I am an atheist." Some people are. Or "I am Asian and I am a Jain". Some people are. Whatever a person is is alright if they don't plan harm for another is how I see it. I can't change my race and I want to be a Christian. I don't try to make others be like me. I don't understand your hatred.

[graciegirl]

Strange. You used to agree with me totally, or at least that is what you said.

I have not changed one iota, except a very lukewarm feeling on our new President, mostly based on his character and lack of transparency, items that you used to agree on.

On the issues, I am the same Bucco (Rags) as always. My personal or political feelings have not budged.

On race, which is suddenly your issue, I have not changed a bit. I recognize the issues you label as race as economic issues, and always have.

So, my "far out ideas", and for my own good, I feel I should clarify, do not include any of the Alt Right, white supremacy, radical Russian views. I still read the media, which suddenly is hated, but I do read, and not simply accept. I do believe, unlike some, the media is vital to our democracy. I believe and have not changed for years in immigration reform that includes what has already begun....tight and nforcement of existing law, but not a vocally claimed Wall, nor the refusal to allow one religion to come to our country.

All how I felt in the past.


It is alright for me to be white. It is alright for people to be the race they are. We all have values that transcend color and even encompass religion or lack of it. If we do not harm, or plan harm, if we pull our own weight and don't break laws, if I take nothing from you, then why are people like me making you upset?

[Rockyrd]

It is alright for me to be white. It is alright for people to be the race they are. We all have values that transcend color and even encompass religion or lack of it. If we do not harm, or plan harm, if we pull our own weight and don't break laws, if I take nothing from you, then why are people like me making you upset?

Wow....YOU are the one...nobody else who suddenly announced how you felt like a stepchild and finally could be white and Christian. Out of the blue, and said it more than once.

People like you, especially you, do not make me mad. I do not discuss race because I find it distasteful to use the color of ones skin one to describe a human being, that I believe was created by God. I just played a few holes if golf with a fellow of Italian descent who happens to have olive colored skin, yet guess what....he is a great guy. Should I think less or more if olive colored skin ?

You do not make me mad. I simply responded because your post on your color and religion spoken like someone who was abused in someway suorised me. I never thought if you in the past as so conscious of skin color or religion, but lots of that recently so maybe it is just the way now.

For me I judge on what you are...you either have changed or were playing a role in the past, and you kept repeating about skin color, etc for some unknown reason.

Not my cup of tea. My Christianity sort of does not like skin color to be used in judging, so there you go.

Again, I was just disappointed as I never heard you even hint at these feelings before...never heard you simply post "we won" etc. just a surprise and disappointment.

My posts, should there be any replying to you will certainly not be as personal. I apologize.

[Don Baldwin]

It is alright for me to be white. It is alright for people to be the race they are. We all have values that transcend color and even encompass religion or lack of it. If we do not harm, or plan harm, if we pull our own weight and don't break laws, if I take nothing from you, then why are people like me making you upset?

Really? What "value" do the minorities bring? They don't bring "value" to your property/neighborhood. They don't bring "value" when you were forced to open quotas for the less qualified. They don't bring "value" to schools... What VALUE are they? They're a drain.

What you said there...do not harm, pull your own weight, don't break laws... That's WHITE people. Minorities do the opposite...so why do you support them when their actions clearly don't justify it?

Wow....YOU are the one...nobody else who suddenly announced how you felt like a stepchild and finally could be white and Christian. Out of the blue, and said it more than once.

People like you, especially you, do not make me mad. I do not discuss race because I find it distasteful to use the color of ones skin one to describe a human being, that I believe was created by God. I just played a few holes if golf with a fellow of Italian descent who happens to have olive colored skin, yet guess what....he is a great guy. Should I think less or more if olive colored skin ?

You do not make me mad. I simply responded because your post on your color and religion spoken like someone who was abused in someway suorised me. I never thought if you in the past as so conscious of skin color or religion, but lots of that recently so maybe it is just the way now.

For me I judge on what you are...you either have changed or were playing a role in the past, and you kept repeating about skin color, etc for some unknown reason.

Not my cup of tea. My Christianity sort of does not like skin color to be used in judging, so there you go.

Again, I was just disappointed as I never heard you even hint at these feelings before...never heard you simply post "we won" etc. just a surprise and disappointment.

My posts, should there be any replying to you will certainly not be as personal. I apologize.

Their ACTIONS are what describe them...skin color just helps us pick them out easier...if all red heads acted like blacks...we wouldn't want red heads around either. Skin color has NOTHING to do with it...it's how what's inside ACTS that we hate. We don't "hate them", we hate what they do.

He's white...it's like discriminating against red heads, blonds, brown, black hair color...they're all human...they're all equal. The minorities are a different species. They are not.

Everyone is hoping the lies of political correctness is going away now that a white guy is back.

So why don't you judge the minorities for what they are? They're growing in numbers and they're slowly turning the country 3rd world. The inner city slums are growing as their numbers grow. What do they bring to the table except an outstretched hand?

How about the ACTIONS of those wearing that skin color? Can you judge on that? Their violence, their always being at the bottom economically?

I'm not the guy you're talking to...just wanted to ask WHY you like them...

[MDLNB]

You know what they say about approval ratings. They are like *******s, everyone has one and ....................

Who cares about today's polls? They sure didn't predict the elections very well. Speaking of which, where is our local gambler with the odds? Is he still running from his bookie? Or, has he sold his home in the Villages to pay of his "sure bet" that Hillary was going to win? I guess if he is able to eat, it won't be crow. Most likely it will be via a tube in his arm.