PRAVDA makes a statement....

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that is shocking !!

"It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people."

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/

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I knew if I lived long enough I'd get to see everything. Not much left now....

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Yep - the Russian Models are sure HOT!

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I knew if I lived long enough I'd get to see everything. Not much left now....

You must be much older than I. I have so much to see now that I have time to see it.

Yoda

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Yep - the Russian Models are sure HOT!

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Do they shave their pits yet?

Yoda

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Ask Steve - he saw everything.

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The sheep should be happy. Thanks for the post.

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This is one paragraph from the article that should really hit home...

"First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish. "

I have trouble disputing that paragraph.....nor this one....


"Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America."

And finally this scary scary thought......


"The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe"


I fully understand the adversorial relationship we have with Soviets but when you read it from another countries editorial page and you have a problem in rebutting what they are saying...it is a bit sobering !

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Ask Steve - he saw everything.

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That's in the "not much left" category......

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This is one paragraph from the article that should really hit home...

"First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish. "

I have trouble disputing that paragraph.....nor this one....


"Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America."

And finally this scary scary thought......


"The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe"


I fully understand the adversorial relationship we have with Soviets but when you read it from another countries editorial page and you have a problem in rebutting what they are saying...it is a bit sobering !

:agree: Yep, sometimes it is easier to see the contents in the box from the outside then to be in the box and look around.:read:

Keedy

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The responses to the article so far are enlightening. It seems that most agree with what Pravda has said. Now THAT is shocking!

It all didn't happen overnight, folks. And it did happen on our watch.

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The responses to the article so far are enlightening. It seems that most agree with what Pravda has said. Now THAT is shocking!

It all didn't happen overnight, folks. And it did happen on our watch.


This is really a bummer....saying that I agree with you again VK.

I expected a lot of blame being placed on the last President or along party lines.

And you are right again (terrible..just terrible)...it did happen on our watch and as Steve always posts on here...we gotta clean out that congress ! And we have to wake up and FIGHT a bit harder against those who want everything to be so doggone "politically correct" instead of just plain correct !

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It all didn't happen overnight, folks. And it did happen on our watch.

Kinda reminds me of that old saw involving the Lone Ranger and Tonto. The story goes they were surrounded by hundreds of savage "injuns" after the Lone Ranger led them into the middle of the attack. Time was running out. Seeing the danger and disastrous outcome created by his error in judgement, the Lone Ranger reaches out to Tonto for comfort. He says with wistful lament, "It looks like we're in trouble Tonto." Tonto, wryly replies, "What you mean "we" white man?

As a long time conservative, feeling like Tonto, please don't include me in "we're" in trouble. Point being... conservatives have been ringing the alarm bell since Joe MCarthy was a gleam in his father's eye and Hector was a pup. So when I read "It happened on our watch" all I can do is :shrug: in amazement and mild irritation.

Many patriots risking ridicule and sanction from the left raised the alarm as far back as FDR's tenure. As blasphemous as that will sound to some, revisionist history has not erased Roosevelt's comfort level, curiosity and admiration for Russia and Communism. So little space, so little time to elaborate. Suffice to say my opinion is based on copious research on General Patton and not just the movies. I recently supplemented my research with another reading of the Communist Manifesto. Now that is scary.

I take little comfort in knowing I never took rank with those impressionable souls (sheeple as Pravda refers to them) who have embraced the feel good dogma of socialism and Marxsim in all their manifestations including the cult like Obama administration.

You know, the Obama administration who Pravda says, "The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

The source: Pravda, 4/27/09, http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/

I must now end this post quickly before the opinion police summarize the thread and declare it time to move on.

Have a beautiful evening in The Villages.

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Excellent post Cabo35. Very logical and articulate. I wish I could write half as well. (or is it "good" )
Well, the communists decided back in the 70's that forming groups to bomb buildings and people was not the best way to change things ( Bill Ayers...Obama's buddy, for example) So they put their bombs in storage and decided to work from the inside and became proffessors at major universities.
They figured that they could preach their politics to the naive and they would graduate and spread the good word to their children and friends within the system by taking jobs that can influence more people. And on, and on and on.........Just like a virus ....spreading...it sure worked better then bombs.
People, it isn't just democrats against republicans.....that is just a diversion to them...this is much bigger.
This is a culture war. Progressives against people who believe in God. I know I shouldn't bring religion into this but I'm afraid it is too late. We are fighting a war based on religion. (Iraq) Why do you think they brought down the twin towers?
Let me back up a second. The progressives and the Islamist (sp) are two different factions but they still want the same thing. To destroy the american way of life. Period. The progressives (liberals) have basically taken over the democratic party. Yes, the extreme left is now running the country. Isn't that a pleasant thought?
The only time a progressive will humble himself and believe in this country is when they think they are in danger. Like after the towers went down they all joined hands at the capital in a sign of unity. How fast that ended, huh?
Well, there is nothing we can do now, is there. With a congress that rubber stamps every dictate from Czar Obama, it is going to be a long journey,indeed. This feeling I have in my gut is the same helpless feeling I had when they took those hostages for over 400 days when Jimmy Carter was the commander in chief.
The only thing we can do is stay strong and organize so that when our time comes again, we can really take control and try to salvage what's left.
Sorry to sound so down....wish I could see the light at the end of this long dark tunnel.:ohdear:
Keedy

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...As a long time conservative, ...please don't include me in "we're" in trouble. Point being... conservatives have been ringing the alarm bell since Joe MCarthy was a gleam in his father's eye and Hector was a pup. So when I read "It happened on our watch" all I can do is :shrug: in amazement and mild irritation....

Many patriots risking ridicule and sanction from the left raised the alarm as far back as FDR's tenure....

That's the problem, Cabo. WE really are in trouble. America is made up of people of many political persuasions, from ultra-conservative to raging liberal to ""I'm too busy and really don't care". When our economy, our environment, our educational system, our healthcare, our system of laws, and our very culture change...WE really are in trouble. Taking comfort in saying this or that political party told you so doesn't do much to begin the movement towards those values which are said to have been changed or lost.

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Well said.

The article in Pravda was interesting reading, if a bit dramatic (the Russian style of literature?). But was just that, an opinion piece.

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and AGAINST we the people. It is and has been due to the silent majority in this country. It has been reported more than I can recount how most Americans (usually over 85%) are against what has been happening to our freedoms, values, core beliefs and direction for the last 40 year (maybe more).

However, as statistically proven time and again there is no action taken by that majority...they are either too busy...don't care...or most often of the ilk, it doesn't affect me so why bother. Well over time it is finally aggregating to where it may be affecting some. But it still will not be sufficient to change we the people from apathy to action.

As the older generation (most of us) fade, being replaced by younger generations which will have never ever known any better, the do nothing apathy, entitlement group will begin to procreate and subsequent generations can only care even less.

The window of opportunity is fast closing on opportunities to reverse the trend.

The non representative, representatives, do nothing, liars, cheaters, lechers, whore mongers, tax evasion experts, what's in it for me politicians that repeatedly do the wrong the thing and sometimes very illegal and immoral....some how manage to keep getting re-elected...term after term after term after term. Because the apathetic lazy critical mass contained in we the people allow it.

Plain and simple. It has also been proven time and again that when there is a ground swell reaction to an issue by the majority...there is usually a reaction by the politicians. But it does not have consistent forward momentum.

How about another good/bad example. The confirming process of Soltomayor for the Suprteme Court. It is not amusing that recent candor from politicians regarding their approach to responding is a function of saying or not what ever it takes to not affect their ability to get re-elected. Doing the right thing for America? Certainly not. It is reported every day and I venture a guess that most Americans do not even question why their representatives are not doing what is right for we the people. The politicians are well tuned to the fact that we the people do not react or care very much about what they do or don't do, hence they do what works for them.....NOT WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!

I personally liked the slip of characterization in the article with the slip of the lip or pen when refering to the "sheeple".....one of my favorite terms!!!

The silent majority is getting what it deservws. The future generations will pay the price....not us.

BTK

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Good post BTK...My guess is that the polititians are just pragmatic. Re- election is their only goal.
Correct me if I'm wrong (happens alot) but in the days when we were colonies of England, didn't most of the citizens just go along to get along? Didn't alot of those "citizens" have a "vested interest" to keep colonies under the King's control?
If history serves me right, wasn't it a small group of rabble-rousers that got the ball rolling to start the momentum of dissent?
Just thinking.....that's all.

Keedy Here is interesting link:http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=16887

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That's the problem, Cabo. WE really are in trouble. America is made up of people of many political persuasions, from ultra-conservative to raging liberal to ""I'm too busy and really don't care". When our economy, our environment, our educational system, our healthcare, our system of laws, and our very culture change...WE really are in trouble. Taking comfort in saying this or that political party told you so doesn't do much to begin the movement towards those values which are said to have been changed or lost.

OK kahuna, you work on the democrats, Obama and the libs to:

throttle back national health care the cost of which at this time will bury us,

stop unbridled bailouts,

stop appointing "czars"....it sounds so............Russian

stop the government from taking over businesses and running them in the name of the state....

stop printing money that will create irreversible runaway inflation,

tell Congress we want to eliminate the income tax and create "One Fair Tax" for all Americans. The democrats should like it because it would still be a progressive tax because the rich spend more.

stop expanding and creating more entitlements,

encourage democrats to stop appointing progressive revisionist judges to the courts,

get the Obama administration and the democrats in Congress to cut business taxes to encourage growth,

get the democrats and Obama to ditch the cap and trade tax that only goes to grow even more Marxist repressive government at the expense of the taxpayer. We both know the increase will be passed on in spite of Obama and the Democrats in Congress's best efforts to make it appear as a non-income tax. That is flat out deceitful.

tell Congress to stop blocking oil drilling in America where we know rich oil deposits exist

get Congress to restore the mega military budget cuts they made in an attempt to balance their budget. Chatting with our enemies doesn't seem to be working especially in North Korea and I'd like to know our men and women in the armed forces have enough manpower and firepower to end the threat quickly... with finality and their safety in mind.

get the libs and the dems to stop doling out entitlements to illegal immigrants through medical benefits, education benefits, social security benefits and tell them let's take care of U.S. citizens first

get rid of Barney Frank....we already got rid of Arlen Spector

give Joe Biden 24 hour security and medical attendants....God forbid...remember who is third in the line of succession

I'll work on the conservatives and republicans to support all of the above and further I will ask them to get back to family values and the values you cite.....hmmmm.......(pause for reflection) ...I think YOU are going to need more help. Any volunteers?

k, I'm not mocking your post. I believe it is a democratic administration, aided and abetted by a Democratic Congress with their Socialist, Marxist agenda that is driving us into oblivion.

How are lower taxes, less government, increased national security, controlled immigration, capitalism and belief in family and God driving us into the "trouble" you vaguely define in your post?

If the Marxist are right, capitalism leads to socialism, socialism leads to communism and communism leads to totalitarianism. How do you turn the boat around without attacking the source of the problem?

I know you don't like the interjection of party labels but....it is not conservative republicans who want to destoy capitalism.