any chance that r and d can meet in the middle

[jebartle]

And be Americans FIRST!

[rubicon]

In my view the right has not moved but the left has moved so far left that the middle is no longer palatable to most Americans. And we know despite the recent elections the left isn't going to look inward to their mistakes and correct them . Look at who continues to head their party. You speak of America First but the left desires globalization meaning a new world order, ergo open borders and their social justice agenda, push for neutral gender, anti-cop anti-religion, anti-capitalism, etc

I opine others can decide

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

In my view the right has not moved but the left has moved so far left that the middle is no longer palatable to most Americans. And we know despite the recent elections the left isn't going to look inward to their mistakes and correct them . Look at who continues to head their party. You speak of America First but the left desires globalization meaning a new world order, ergo open borders and their social justice agenda, push for neutral gender, anti-cop anti-religion, anti-capitalism, etc

I opine others can decide

Personal Best Regards:

The "left" is mostly women and minorities...they NEED to be "taken care of", it's why they always push for socialism. Someone else does the work and they benefit.

[MDLNB]

Trump is in the Middle, so yes the "R's" can move. Now, it will be up to the libtards that used to be called Democrats to move from the far left toward the middle. But, that is a long journey and not very likely.

[billethkid]

We do it in our every day lives.
TV lifestyle.
In church.
Playing golf/other games.
House parties.
Concerts.
Major sporting events.
Et al.

What do all these have in common? There is no requirement to need, choose, discuss whether one is an R or a D.

Somehow or other, when the big R or D is flashing some folks have the insatiable need to change who they are. They become pushy, shoving, nasty, disrespectful, antagonistical, etc., my way or the highway, non-thinking party only puppets/parrots.

The two party system has become a social pi$$ing contest of destructive proportion. The human-ness and American-ness has all but gone out of the system.

[Cedwards38]

Trump is in the Middle, so yes the "R's" can move. Now, it will be up to the libtards that used to be called Democrats to move from the far left toward the middle. But, that is a long journey and not very likely.

Trump in the middle? On what issues? And can you explain the significance of your often used term "libtard?"

[Alibaba]

What does the right represented today? Hatred, bigotry, racism, homophobic and lack of tolerance. How can their be a middle ground.

[Don Baldwin]

What does the right represented today? Hatred, bigotry, racism, homophobic and lack of tolerance. How can their be a middle ground.

Some things shouldn't be tolerated...the way minorities act for instance. Giving them quotas. Is that what you meant?

[ColdNoMore]

In my view the right has not moved but the left has moved so far left that the middle is no longer palatable to most Americans. And we know despite the recent elections the left isn't going to look inward to their mistakes and correct them . Look at who continues to head their party. You speak of America First but the left desires globalization meaning a new world order, ergo open borders and their social justice agenda, push for neutral gender, anti-cop anti-religion, anti-capitalism, etc

I opine others can decide

Personal Best Regards:

Don't you ever get tired of your flaming hypocrisy...and broad brush, denigrating attempts? :oops:

You made a post a few days ago about how you are so noble, yet you try to ascribe every negative trait to those to the left of you.

You have become a laughingstock to anyone with intelligence...and a desire to seek the truth. :wave:

[ColdNoMore]

What does the right represented today? Hatred, bigotry, racism, homophobic and lack of tolerance. How can their be a middle ground.

Not all of them, but certainly a significant number.

One only has to look at the usual suspects posting here, to quickly glean that they loathe anyone..."who isn't white and on the far right." :ohdear:

[MDLNB]

What does the right represented today? Hatred, bigotry, racism, homophobic and lack of tolerance. How can their be a middle ground.


Yes, versus libtard stupidity.

[MDLNB]

Don't you ever get tired of your flaming hypocrisy...and broad brush, denigrating attempts? :oops:

You made a post a few days ago about how you are so noble, yet you try to ascribe every negative trait to those to the left of you.

You have become a laughingstock to anyone with intelligence...and a desire to seek the truth. :wave:

Don't you ever get tired of stalking and attacking him? Try commenting on the issues. Now, go sit in your room and don't come out until you can be nice.

And then.............pull my finger.......:boom:

[MDLNB]

Trump in the middle? On what issues? And can you explain the significance of your often used term "libtard?"

Libtard: A liberal that refuses to do their own research on a subject and asks stupid questions on matters they do not understand.

[Chi-Town]

Trump in the middle? On what issues? And can you explain the significance of your often used term "libtard?"
Let me answer the libtard question.

MD uses that term to combine llberal and retarded. It's his pathetic attempt to denigrate both groups.




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[MDLNB]

Let me answer the libtard question.

MD uses that term to combine llberal and retarded. It's his pathetic attempt to denigrate both groups.




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Chi, that's not true at all. I use it as a term of endearment that best describes you using the least amount of keystrokes.

[Chi-Town]

Chi, that's not true at all. I use it as a term of endearment that best describes you using the least amount of keystrokes.

Sounds like Trump on Twitter. You might have trouble grasping that concept, but don't worry. Trump will still love you.

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[debbieingigharbor]

The "left" is mostly women and minorities...they NEED to be "taken care of", it's why they always push for socialism. Someone else does the work and they benefit.

Spoken like a true sexist racist. You were the one Hillary was speaking about when she mentioned deplorables. You see, being a racist and sexist is a bad thing. :rolleyes:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

What does the right represented today? Hatred, bigotry, racism, homophobic and lack of tolerance. How can their be a middle ground.

With nasty untrue attacks like this, I don't see how some of us are ever going to meet in the middle.

Of course some of us will and others, like this poster will never bend. He, unfortunately believe the nasty rhetoric that is commonly thrown about these days.

My only hope is that once Trump's programs are put into place the things begin getting better in this country that some of those on the left will begin to understand.

[ColdNoMore]

Don't you ever get tired of stalking and attacking him? Try commenting on the issues. Now, go sit in your room and don't come out until you can be nice.

And then.............pull my finger.......

Puhleeze! :1rotfl:


Anyone who is infatuated and obsessed with adolescent flatulence jokes...has no business in adult conversations.


See ya. :wave:

[debbieingigharbor]

With nasty untrue attacks like this, I don't see how some of us are ever going to meet in the middle.

Of course some of us will and others, like this poster will never bend. He, unfortunately believe the nasty rhetoric that is commonly thrown about these days.

My only hope is that once Trump's programs are put into place the things begin getting better in this country that some of those on the left will begin to understand.

Sir, you are not being honest. Take a look at the language used within this post alone and tell me there are not a significant number of racist, sexist comments. Why is that ok with you? Why don't you call it out for what it is.

[ColdNoMore]

Sir, you are not being honest. Take a look at the language used within this post alone and tell me there are not a significant number of racist, sexist comments. Why is that ok with you? Why don't you call it out for what it is.

The obvious answer is because 'they' share his political beliefs.

Therefore, they get a pass for behavior that would have him screeching and wailing...if it were coming from the 'other side.'

[billethkid]

Amazing how almost every thread very quickly resolves, evolves, devolves into a partisan/personal pi$$ing contest having nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

Hence no discussion but more the school yard gutter banter and always with a partisan scheme/rant!

[ColdNoMore]

Amazing how almost every thread very quickly resolves, evolves, devolves into a partisan/personal pi$$ing contest having nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

Hence no discussion but more the school yard gutter banter and always with a partisan scheme/rant!

You're one to talk...flaming hypocrite. :oops:

[billethkid]

You're one to talk...flaming hypocrite. :oops:

Just being consistent. Call it whatever rings your bell at the time....it is not as though you have a code that allows you to know who each guest is and having knowledge of who/what/when.

[rubicon]

Don't you ever get tired of your flaming hypocrisy...and broad brush, denigrating attempts? :oops:

You made a post a few days ago about how you are so noble, yet you try to ascribe every negative trait to those to the left of you.

You have become a laughingstock to anyone with intelligence...and a desire to seek the truth. :wave:

It is you who have labeled these traits as negative not me. I simply implied these are issues with which I do not agree. And it is you who once again has not addressed the validity of the content of my post.

I desire opposing input because I do not need to be right but I do seek truth and if someone has an opposing view that invalidates mine I'll include it in my assessment.

However you never seem to offer positive contributions but only baseless accusations

I would never mock or laugh at any one, and may I offer a bit of advice of why? Some of the most influential and inventive and creative people were mocked and became laughingstocks such as Seward folly (ie the purchase of Alaska) Fred Smith ( Federal Express) Wright Brothers (well you know) and who would honestly buy a $.15 hamburg (Mc Donalds) or pay for bottle water....should I go on

Personal Best Regards:

[billethkid]

Opposing views are fine.
Unfortunately there are many who view any disagreement with their position automatically unacceptable.
They tend to mitigate their credibility as it seems the only way they are capable of communicating is being disrespectful, using course language, demeaning ANY opposition and the usual......rarely on the subject of any discussion that does not fit their purpose.

What this forum needs is to have all the regular TOTV identities and the ignore button.

[graciegirl]

We do it in our every day lives.
TV lifestyle.
In church.
Playing golf/other games.
House parties.
Concerts.
Major sporting events.
Et al.

What do all these have in common? There is no requirement to need, choose, discuss whether one is an R or a D.

Somehow or other, when the big R or D is flashing some folks have the insatiable need to change who they are. They become pushy, shoving, nasty, disrespectful, antagonistical, etc., my way or the highway, non-thinking party only puppets/parrots.

The two party system has become a social pi$$ing contest of destructive proportion. The human-ness and American-ness has all but gone out of the system.

I think there is a lot of truth in what you just typed.

[MDLNB]

Opposing views are fine.
Unfortunately there are many who view any disagreement with their position automatically unacceptable.
They tend to mitigate their credibility as it seems the only way they are capable of communicating is being disrespectful, using course language, demeaning ANY opposition and the usual......rarely on the subject of any discussion that does not fit their purpose.

What this forum needs is to have all the regular TOTV identities and the ignore button.

The identities all show on my computer, billethkid. As for the "ignor" button, I don't need help ignoring someone. I guess that is why I am a conservative and not a liberal. I am not as needy.

To get back to the subject, it is possible for the D and the R parties to agree. The problem is that there is no longer a Democrat party. It has been overrun by liberals and socialists, that make it very hard to meet on common ground. And yes, the Republican party has become a party of mostly RINOs that use the word conservative incorrectly to describe themselves. Most of the division between the parties could be attributed to Obama being a very weak party leader, thus having A...holes like Reid and Pelosi running amok.

[Don Baldwin]

Spoken like a true sexist racist. You were the one Hillary was speaking about when she mentioned deplorables. You see, being a racist and sexist is a bad thing. :rolleyes:

Why? Why is it a bad thing to know the truth and act on it? Your NOT equal and telling everyone you are...doesn't make it so. Show me the TOP women, the women who beat EVERY man...I don't think there is...in ANY field. Show me the TOP minority in any field...the black/hispanic that beat out every white/asian...you won't find that either.

Accept the truth...don't fight it. Concentrate on what you're good at, stop trying to fit in where you can't.

Sir, you are not being honest. Take a look at the language used within this post alone and tell me there are not a significant number of racist, sexist comments. Why is that ok with you? Why don't you call it out for what it is.

I DO call it out for what it is...the TRUTH. Women AREN'T as good as men in everything but dealing with children and relationships. That is where they excel...THAT is where they need to concentrate their efforts. NOT trying to be firemen or infantry...things they suck at. Minorities...a different species, it's why they NEVER succeed anywhere. They're cave men...dragged into a world 50,000 years more evolved. And you wonder why they can't cope...

[ColdNoMore]

Just being consistent. Call it whatever rings your bell at the time....it is not as though you have a code that allows you to know who each guest is and having knowledge of who/what/when.

Actually I do billethkid. ;)

[ColdNoMore]

It is you who have labeled these traits as negative not me. I simply implied these are issues with which I do not agree. And it is you who once again has not addressed the validity of the content of my post.

I desire opposing input because I do not need to be right but I do seek truth and if someone has an opposing view that invalidates mine I'll include it in my assessment.

However you never seem to offer positive contributions but only baseless accusations

I would never mock or laugh at any one, and may I offer a bit of advice of why? Some of the most influential and inventive and creative people were mocked and became laughingstocks such as Seward folly (ie the purchase of Alaska) Fred Smith ( Federal Express) Wright Brothers (well you know) and who would honestly buy a $.15 hamburg (Mc Donalds) or pay for bottle water....should I go on

Personal Best Regards:

You're joking...right? :1rotfl:

Other than maybe Rockyrd, I provide more links to legitimate sites to back up my statements...than any single one of you on the right. :oops:

You do nothing but bloviate your opinions or plagiarize from other sources (without linking the citation)...for the sole purpose of trying to convince others you know what you're talking about.

I'm not sure what kind of self-hypnosis you've performed, but you have this wildly inflated, and unearned, ego whereby you've falsely convinced yourself that you always "take the high road"...which is what you stated in a recent post.

And then I've seen it all, when you try to compare yourself to actual people who have accomplished something...and didn't need to take credit from someone else. :ohdear:

But hey, at least you're not totally useless...as you've given me quite the belly laugh. :D

Thanks for that. :wave:

[Paper1]

To answer the original post, yes r and d will meet in the middle. Unfortunately they will agree to continue spending our children's futures so no tough decisions have to be made. All these replies are just smoke so real issues don't need to be discussed. We are an exceptional people, are we not?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Sir, you are not being honest. Take a look at the language used within this post alone and tell me there are not a significant number of racist, sexist comments. Why is that ok with you? Why don't you call it out for what it is.

I never said it was all on one side. Both sides do it and it needs to stop if we are ever going to meet in the middle.

I only used this post as an example.

There is a post from the someone on the right about how the left is all women and minorities that want everything done for them. That needs to stop as well.

We need to stop using the word libtards and and calling each other racists etc and start realizing that we all want the same things and simply disagree on the best methods of attaining them.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Here's a speech given in congress the day after the Dallas police ambush. We should all read this and heed what it says.

“We are all stunned by the events last night in Dallas. We are all outraged. An attack on the people who protect us is an attack on all of us.
“Our hearts are with the Dallas Police Department. Our hearts are with the victims, and especially with their loved ones. They wear the badge too. I know that to be a cop's wife or a cop's husband is to prepare for the worst, but who could fathom such horror as this.
“There is no cause or context in which this violence—this kind of terror—is justified. None at all.
“There will be a temptation to let our anger harden our divisions. Let’s not let that happen. There’s going to be a temptation to let our anger send us further into our corners. Let’s not let that happen. That script is just easy to write—it’s too predictable. Let’s defy those predictions.
“A few perpetrators of evil do not represent us. They do not control us. The blame lies with the people who committed these vicious acts, and no one else. And as the president rightfully said, justice will be done.
“We also have to let the healing be done as well. This has been a long week for our country. It’s been a long month for America. We have seen terrible, terrible senseless things.
“Every member of this body—every Republican and every Democrat—wants to see less gun violence. Every member of this body wants a world in which people feel safe regardless of the color of their skin. And that’s not how people are feeling these days.
“Sometimes we disagree on how to get there. Sometimes we disagree passionately on how to get there. But in having this debate, let’s not lose sight of the values that unite us. Let’s not lose sight in our common humanity.
“The values that brought those protesters to the streets in Dallas, the values that brought those protesters to the streets in Washington last night—respect, decency, compassion, humanity. If we lose these fundamental things, what’s left?
“We need to take a moment here. For reflection, for thought, for prayer, for justice, for action. Right now, let’s let justice be done, and let’s also let some healing occur, too.”

[Don Baldwin]

I never said it was all on one side. Both sides do it and it needs to stop if we are ever going to meet in the middle.

I only used this post as an example.

There is a post from the someone on the right about how the left is all women and minorities that want everything done for them. That needs to stop as well.

We need to stop using the word libtards and and calling each other racists etc and start realizing that we all want the same things and simply disagree on the best methods of attaining them.

Yes, it DOES need to stop...women and minorities need to STOP asking that everything be provided for them. You want it? Get a job. Get a better job. Make better decisions. Keep your legs closed.

No...we DON'T all want the same things. Women and minorities want to be "kept", to be taken care of. Look at welfare...just about all women. Go to the welfare office...all women...women of color mostly...or crazy white girls mixed up with blacks/hispanics. They want SOMEONE ELSE to "take care of everything". How else can you explain the D party and it's liberal/socialist ways? Everything goes in a big pot to be shared equally...BUT...white men are to be the designated "providers" of what goes into the big pot. There are almost more of you than us, the providers...what will you do where there is no more? You've bred us out and now there are no more "providers" to provide for you?

Here's a speech given in congress the day after the Dallas police ambush. We should all read this and heed what it says.

Why is it....ONLY WHITE PEOPLE are supposed to show empathy for others? Only we're supposed to make everyone fell safe and secure?

Go to a "minority neighborhood", Hispanic, black, Asian, it doesn't matter...you'll be treated like sh!t, no matter your race. Asian in a black neighborhood, Hispanic, white, it doesn't matter...you WON'T feel safe and secure. Whites, Asians, blacks, going into a Hispanic neighborhood will again NOT feel safe and secure.

But ANY race can feel safe and secure in the white part of town. Any "harassment" will come from security wondering what you're doing there if you LOOK out of place...and skin color won't do that. How you dress, how you walk, how you act...THAT will get you noticed.

WHY? Why is it so different in "white places" compared to Black/Hispanic places? Hint: It's them. They really ARE different than us. It's not just a COMPLETELY different physical appearance. We're different inside too.

[autumnspring]

Trump in the middle? On what issues? And can you explain the significance of your often used term "libtard?"

Libtard when people start this THIRD GRADE name calling all is lost.
I for one have given up much hope. People in the villages are wiser, more prosperous and I almost said more mature BUT IT DOES NOT REPLY TO MANY OF THE POSTERS ON THIS THREAD.
Not only have the democrats moved to the far left but the republicans have moved to the far right.
I voted for TRUMP. I simply could not vote for Hillary.

I did not vote for OBAMA but I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG AND THAT OBAMA BEING OUR FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT BROUGHT OUR COUNTRY TOGETHER.
Sadly, While I took the time to READ before casting my vote, OBAMA clearly was FAR WORSE than even I realized.
Obama hitched his wagon to the WORST of America.
Obama fanned ashes of racism into forest fires. Obama wiped his shoes on my life view-you work hard your work smart and what you earn is yours. I've been poor. I am now well off or at least I have far more than I ever dreamed of having.
I HOPE THAT TRUMP OUR NEW PRESIDENT WHETHER YOU VOTED FOR HIM OR NOT, WILL CAUSE THOSE WHO CHOSE NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM TO SAY HEY YOU KNOW I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE REPUBLICAN-THAT WILL BE GREAT FOR AMERICA. I HOPE I WILL NOT REGRET MY CHOICE.

In reply to TRUMP moving toward the MIDDLE. REMINDER TRUMP HAS NOT YET ENTERED OFFICE so all we have is TALK. Trump has come out in support of FORCING insurance to cover people with pre-existing conditions.
Trump has come out in support of people with kids. Trump has come out in support of charter schools. If, you are not aware the school in the villages is a charter school.
My main criticism of TRUMP is that he has come out in support of the second amendment the right to bear arms, which I agree with BUT, the republican party has not even mentioned THE FIRST AMENDMENT which prevents a NATIONAL RELIGION. TRANSLATION FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND you have no right to ram your religion down the throat of others. I believe in PRO CHOICE. It is the right to chose NOT FORCED ABORTION.

[autumnspring]

Yes, it DOES need to stop...women and minorities need to STOP asking that everything be provided for them. You want it? Get a job. Get a better job. Make better decisions. Keep your legs closed.

No...we DON'T all want the same things. Women and minorities want to be "kept", to be taken care of. Look at welfare...just about all women. Go to the welfare office...all women...women of color mostly...or crazy white girls mixed up with blacks/hispanics. They want SOMEONE ELSE to "take care of everything". How else can you explain the D party and it's liberal/socialist ways? Everything goes in a big pot to be shared equally...BUT...white men are to be the designated "providers" of what goes into the big pot. There are almost more of you than us, the providers...what will you do where there is no more? You've bred us out and now there are no more "providers" to provide for you?

Why is it....ONLY WHITE PEOPLE are supposed to show empathy for others? Only we're supposed to make everyone fell safe and secure?

Go to a "minority neighborhood", Hispanic, black, Asian, it doesn't matter...you'll be treated like sh!t, no matter your race. Asian in a black neighborhood, Hispanic, white, it doesn't matter...you WON'T feel safe and secure. Whites, Asians, blacks, going into a Hispanic neighborhood will again NOT feel safe and secure.

But ANY race can feel safe and secure in the white part of town. Any "harassment" will come from security wondering what you're doing there if you LOOK out of place...and skin color won't do that. How you dress, how you walk, how you act...THAT will get you noticed.

WHY? Why is it so different in "white places" compared to Black/Hispanic places? Hint: It's them. They really ARE different than us. It's not just a COMPLETELY different physical appearance. We're different inside too.

YOU WILL NOT DO IT BUT-there are two books you SHOULD read. "South of Freedom," was written by a BLACK WWII vet who went to college under the GI bill.
It is a shocking and yet amusing look at what YOU STAND FOR.
Another book you SHOULD but will not read is Nelson Mandella, "A long Road to Freedom."
RE: Different inside
DEAR BIGGOT BAD NEWS FOR YOU-if you have had any medical procedure likely some JEW is either working on you or developed what saved your WORTHLESS LIFE. Oh and if you have received BLOOD you are likely already part black, Hispanic perhaps a bit Oriental. Oh and should you or one of your loved ones IF YOU HAVE ANY, need an organ transplant be sure to insist WHITE ONLY.

[janmcn]

With nasty untrue attacks like this, I don't see how some of us are ever going to meet in the middle.

Of course some of us will and others, like this poster will never bend. He, unfortunately believe the nasty rhetoric that is commonly thrown about these days.

My only hope is that once Trump's programs are put into place the things begin getting better in this country that some of those on the left will begin to understand.


How do you compromise when one side (reps) wants to end Medicare, privatize social security and the VA and the other side (dems) want to keep these programs as is? Republicans have been trying to roll back FDR's New Deal for 80 years, in the case of Social Security, and now they see their chance with Trump in the White House. Where is the common ground?

[Don Baldwin]

YOU WILL NOT DO IT BUT-there are two books you SHOULD read. "South of Freedom," was written by a BLACK WWII vet who went to college under the GI bill.
It is a shocking and yet amusing look at what YOU STAND FOR.
Another book you SHOULD but will not read is Nelson Mandella, "A long Road to Freedom."
RE: Different inside
DEAR BIGGOT BAD NEWS FOR YOU-if you have had any medical procedure likely some JEW is either working on you or developed what saved your WORTHLESS LIFE. Oh and if you have received BLOOD you are likely already part black, Hispanic perhaps a bit Oriental. Oh and should you or one of your loved ones IF YOU HAVE ANY, need an organ transplant be sure to insist WHITE ONLY.

I should read fiction or about the 1% of blacks? The OTHER 99% are baggage we don't need. I've always said, there are 1% who are OK, but not worth having to deal with the rest of the unclean masses.

Mandela? He literally DESTROYED S Africa. What do you think S Africa is like today? It's a cesspool, a murder capital, they "hunt" whites for fun, pass laws against and harass them. It's a sh!thole...just like all the other "black run" places. Haiti, Somalia, Jamaica...all BLACK run crap. They can't run ANYWHERE successfully. Get a clue...

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+south+africa+like+today+after+apa rtheid%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

A few things I found:

"But still, unemployment, poverty, AIDS, murder, corruption and crime all have surged, and South Africa now regularly tops the charts worldwide in terms of rape and murder as average life expectancy has plummeted. Also troubling to broad swaths of the public, as well as many analysts and economists, is the direction government and society itself are heading."

"Officially, about 25 percent of South Africans are out of work, double that from 1994. If one counts “discouraged workers,” the real rate is closer to 40 percent."

"However, there is little doubt that the nation has a massive and chronic unemployment problem affecting all races, and especially blacks, despite intensifying “black economic empowerment” schemes."

“Average incomes of South African men and women fell by about 40 percent between 1995 and 2000, and … there has been little improvement since then,” concluded the NBER study, released in 2005. “The brunt of the income decline appears to have been shouldered by the young and the non-white.”

“South Africans are worse off than they were before the end of apartheid, at least as measured by real incomes,” the researchers argued at the time, noting the poor were hit hardest."

"Meanwhile, statistics cited by other experts suggest that by 2006, the number of people in South Africa living on less than $1 per day had doubled over the 1994 rate."

"And in 2008, the United Nations reported that a quarter of South Africans were still living on less than $1.25 a day, with more than 40 percent living on less than $2 per day."

"Ironically, perhaps, considering the oversized influence of communism on the political scene, South Africa now has among the most unequal distributions of wealth in the world."

"The U.N. Human Development Index, or HDI, reveals a bleak picture in terms of where South Africa has gone over the last two decades. Prior to 1994, despite apartheid, South Africa’s HDI ranking was steadily climbing upward, and the nation was ranked well above most of Asia and the Arab world, and far ahead the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa. It was also higher than the world average."

"Part of the spectacular decline is attributed to the fact that South Africa in 2013 suffers from among the worst rates of AIDS on earth, too; often being dubbed the “AIDS capital of the world.”"

"One of the worst plagues to wreak havoc in 2013 South Africa is violent crime, with the nation now widely lambasted as the rape and murder capital of the world."

"“The police are inefficient, they are corrupt, they run the roadblocks that are kind of the modern version of highway robbery – collecting what I call ‘formal’ and ‘informal’ fines,” he added. Official estimates suggest that between 15,000 and 20,000 people are murdered each year in South Africa, about 50 murders per day, or around 31 per 100,000 individuals over the year. In reality, international organizations such as Interpol have argued that the real murder rates are likely twice as high as South African authorities admit."

"A study conducted by the Medical Research Council, for example, found that more than one in four South African men – 27.5 percent – admitted to having raped at least one woman or girl. Almost half of those said they had raped multiple victims."

"While blacks suffered under official racism during apartheid, the reverse is now true, many experts and Afrikaners say, with whites and mixed-race individuals being targeted by race-based so-called “black empowerment” legislation in everything from employment and business to welfare and charity. Think “affirmative action” for the majority – on steroids. Some 90 percent or more of government workers are black, well above their ratio in the population, and virtually all of the welfare and housing grants go to blacks as well, critics point out. So, the racial quotas go only in one direction."

Coming to America...

[jebartle]

YOU WILL NOT DO IT BUT-there are two books you SHOULD read. "South of Freedom," was written by a BLACK WWII vet who went to college under the GI bill.
It is a shocking and yet amusing look at what YOU STAND FOR.
Another book you SHOULD but will not read is Nelson Mandella, "A long Road to Freedom."
RE: Different inside
DEAR BIGGOT BAD NEWS FOR YOU-if you have had any medical procedure likely some JEW is either working on you or developed what saved your WORTHLESS LIFE. Oh and if you have received BLOOD you are likely already part black, Hispanic perhaps a bit Oriental. Oh and should you or one of your loved ones IF YOU HAVE ANY, need an organ transplant be sure to insist WHITE ONLY.

you are so right! Some on this sight feel empowered because they can rant without repercussions from their obnoxious statements. They don't have the intelligence to realize how rediculous their opinion is, BUT this is America, so we listen and shake our head and pray they see the light!

[Don Baldwin]

YOU WILL NOT DO IT BUT-there are two books you SHOULD read. "South of Freedom," was written by a BLACK WWII vet who went to college under the GI bill.
It is a shocking and yet amusing look at what YOU STAND FOR.
Another book you SHOULD but will not read is Nelson Mandella, "A long Road to Freedom."
RE: Different inside
DEAR BIGGOT BAD NEWS FOR YOU-if you have had any medical procedure likely some JEW is either working on you or developed what saved your WORTHLESS LIFE. Oh and if you have received BLOOD you are likely already part black, Hispanic perhaps a bit Oriental. Oh and should you or one of your loved ones IF YOU HAVE ANY, need an organ transplant be sure to insist WHITE ONLY.

Mr Ignorant...I forgot to address this before...blood and organs normally don't match from species to species...blacks get organs/blood from blacks and white from white, asians from asians, hispanics from hispanics. Look it up...they're ALWAYS trying to get blacks to donate organs and blood because it's what matches. I din't HAVE to insist on white only...it's what I'll get anyway.

We're a LOT more different than you think we are.

Jews are white...some possibly the pinnacle of human intelligence evolution.

[Don Baldwin]

you are so right! Some on this sight feel empowered because they can rant without repercussions from their obnoxious statements. They don't have the intelligence to realize how rediculous their opinion is, BUT this is America, so we listen and shake our head and pray they see the light!

No...he's COMPLETELY wrong. The first book is a propaganda book designed to do EXACTLY what it did to you..."make you feel sorry for the poor black people who's ONLY difference is the color of their skin". NO...the differences run DEEP. You think black families are like the Jefferson's, the Cosby show. 90% of black families...aren't even families. Mom has kids from several men, never married, on welfare...living on MLK Blvd, that's your TYPICAL black "family".

The second praises Mandela...who DESTROYED S Africa. Look up S Africa's stats. See how much it's fallen since "white rule".

"South Africa’s maths and science education has again been shown to be among the worst in the world – second last – according to the largest ever global school rankings.

A report by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), put the country behind only Ghana, while Asian countries excelled, taking the top five places, while the US and the UK, were ranked 28th and 20th, respectively.

The OECD findings are based on the test scores of 15-year-olds from 76 countries."

South Africa’s education system vs the world (https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/87310/south-africas-education-system-vs-the-world/)


It's propaganda to make you believe what isn't true. There is NO equality.