"Problems With Whiteness"

[rubicon]

These pages are loaded with unhealthy and dividing accusations of racism and frankly its has to stop. In my view the liberal false narrative as described below and coming primarily from the political left and education sectors and Hollywood reinforces the white stereotype perpetuating this racial divide ,pretty much the same way Hollywood's continual depiction of police as being racist in just about every movie they produce is one cause of the Black Lives Matter movement.

For example taxpayers are funding 2017 programs sponsored by the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the University of Colorado-Denver for courses offered on how "whiteness" is a serious problem in this nation. The course at Wisconsin is actually called “The Problem of Whiteness.” The courses essentially assail "white supremacy" created by whites and for them and hence has to be eradicated by them.

Bill Clinton has blamed everyone under the sun for his wife's election loss and he also stated that Trump's only skill was getting "angry white men"to vote for him.

From the onset of the feminist movement the attacks on white males has persisted and while under Obama's watch accelerated.

For over 200 years being a white male, likely Judeo-Christian, patriotic , striving to make a living and a contribution to this nation was to be normal.

Today if I am born white it automatically makes me a racist.

If I am a fiscal and moral conservative, a fascist

A heterosexual, a homophobic.

Non-union, aligned with big business.

Religious ,naive

Support the 2nd amendment, a crazy yokel

Proud American, a xenophobe

Support the police, a right wing extremist

Believe in meritorious reward system, a crony capitalist

Support the defense of our nation, a war monger

Ostensibly the liberal narrative is absolute in its message and that perpetuates the divide. Not all white men are bad. This nation stands strong because of the contribution and sacrifices of white men from the days of the Pilgrims to the sands of Iraq . simply stated this nations historical narrative has to be brought into a realistic perspective as related to the human experience

Personal Best Regards:

[MDLNB]

These pages are loaded with unhealthy and dividing accusations of racism and frankly its has to stop. In my view the liberal false narrative as described below and coming primarily from the political left and education sectors and Hollywood reinforces the white stereotype perpetuating this racial divide ,pretty much the same way Hollywood's continual depiction of police as being racist in just about every movie they produce is one cause of the Black Lives Matter movement.

For example taxpayers are funding 2017 programs sponsored by the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the University of Colorado-Denver for courses offered on how "whiteness" is a serious problem in this nation. The course at Wisconsin is actually called “The Problem of Whiteness.” The courses essentially assail "white supremacy" created by whites and for them and hence has to be eradicated by them.

Bill Clinton has blamed everyone under the sun for his wife's election loss and he also stated that Trump's only skill was getting "angry white men"to vote for him.

From the onset of the feminist movement the attacks on white males has persisted and while under Obama's watch accelerated.

For over 200 years being a white male, likely Judeo-Christian, patriotic , striving to make a living and a contribution to this nation was to be normal.

Today if I am born white it automatically makes me a racist.

If I am a fiscal and moral conservative, a fascist

A heterosexual, a homophobic.

Non-union, aligned with big business.

Religious ,naive

Support the 2nd amendment, a crazy yokel

Proud American, a xenophobe

Support the police, a right wing extremist

Believe in meritorious reward system, a crony capitalist

Support the defense of our nation, a war monger

Ostensibly the liberal narrative is absolute in its message and that perpetuates the divide. Not all white men are bad. This nation stands strong because of the contribution and sacrifices of white men from the days of the Pilgrims to the sands of Iraq . simply stated this nations historical narrative has to be brought into a realistic perspective as related to the human experience

Personal Best Regards:

:agree:

[graciegirl]

These pages are loaded with unhealthy and dividing accusations of racism and frankly its has to stop. In my view the liberal false narrative as described below and coming primarily from the political left and education sectors and Hollywood reinforces the white stereotype perpetuating this racial divide ,pretty much the same way Hollywood's continual depiction of police as being racist in just about every movie they produce is one cause of the Black Lives Matter movement.

For example taxpayers are funding 2017 programs sponsored by the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the University of Colorado-Denver for courses offered on how "whiteness" is a serious problem in this nation. The course at Wisconsin is actually called “The Problem of Whiteness.” The courses essentially assail "white supremacy" created by whites and for them and hence has to be eradicated by them.

Bill Clinton has blamed everyone under the sun for his wife's election loss and he also stated that Trump's only skill was getting "angry white men"to vote for him.

From the onset of the feminist movement the attacks on white males has persisted and while under Obama's watch accelerated.

For over 200 years being a white male, likely Judeo-Christian, patriotic , striving to make a living and a contribution to this nation was to be normal.

Today if I am born white it automatically makes me a racist.

If I am a fiscal and moral conservative, a fascist

A heterosexual, a homophobic.

Non-union, aligned with big business.

Religious ,naive

Support the 2nd amendment, a crazy yokel

Proud American, a xenophobe

Support the police, a right wing extremist

Believe in meritorious reward system, a crony capitalist

Support the defense of our nation, a war monger

Ostensibly the liberal narrative is absolute in its message and that perpetuates the divide. Not all white men are bad. This nation stands strong because of the contribution and sacrifices of white men from the days of the Pilgrims to the sands of Iraq . simply stated this nations historical narrative has to be brought into a realistic perspective as related to the human experience

Personal Best Regards:

Well said.

G.G.

[Rockyrd]

These pages are loaded with unhealthy and dividing accusations of racism and frankly its has to stop. In my view the liberal false narrative as described below and coming primarily from the political left and education sectors and Hollywood reinforces the white stereotype perpetuating this racial divide ,pretty much the same way Hollywood's continual depiction of police as being racist in just about every movie they produce is one cause of the Black Lives Matter movement.

For example taxpayers are funding 2017 programs sponsored by the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the University of Colorado-Denver for courses offered on how "whiteness" is a serious problem in this nation. The course at Wisconsin is actually called “The Problem of Whiteness.” The courses essentially assail "white supremacy" created by whites and for them and hence has to be eradicated by them.

Bill Clinton has blamed everyone under the sun for his wife's election loss and he also stated that Trump's only skill was getting "angry white men"to vote for him.

From the onset of the feminist movement the attacks on white males has persisted and while under Obama's watch accelerated.

For over 200 years being a white male, likely Judeo-Christian, patriotic , striving to make a living and a contribution to this nation was to be normal.

Today if I am born white it automatically makes me a racist.

If I am a fiscal and moral conservative, a fascist

A heterosexual, a homophobic.

Non-union, aligned with big business.

Religious ,naive

Support the 2nd amendment, a crazy yokel

Proud American, a xenophobe

Support the police, a right wing extremist

Believe in meritorious reward system, a crony capitalist

Support the defense of our nation, a war monger

Ostensibly the liberal narrative is absolute in its message and that perpetuates the divide. Not all white men are bad. This nation stands strong because of the contribution and sacrifices of white men from the days of the Pilgrims to the sands of Iraq . simply stated this nations historical narrative has to be brought into a realistic perspective as related to the human experience

Personal Best Regards:

I am very disappointed.

AGAIN, 90% of what you post is copied and pasted (plagerized) from a website called HOAXANDCHANGE.

Here is a link to what you passed off as your post.

❝If you are born white you are automatically a racist❞ – Hoax And Change (http://www.hoaxandchange.com/2016/08/%E2%9D%9Dif-you-are-born-white-you-are-automatically-a-racist%E2%9D%9E/)

I have an appointment this morning so had no chance to find out more but it advertises itself as a SECOND AMMENDMENT website and has some very cruel things to say.

But, sure wish you had responded to my direct question to you on the thread......COMIC RELIEF instead of doing this.

I suppose if TOTV does not care...the posters do not seem to mind, lets just forget copyright law and the rules of the forum.

Not knowing who cheated and cutted and pasted to pass of as their own work will be fun

[ColdNoMore]

I am very disappointed.

AGAIN, 90% of what you post is copied and pasted (plagerized) from a website called HOAXANDCHANGE.

Here is a link to what you passed off as your post.

❝If you are born white you are automatically a racist❞ – Hoax And Change (http://www.hoaxandchange.com/2016/08/%E2%9D%9Dif-you-are-born-white-you-are-automatically-a-racist%E2%9D%9E/)

I have an appointment this morning so had no chance to find out more but it advertises itself as a SECOND AMMENDMENT website and has some very cruel things to say.

But, sure wish you had responded to my direct question to you on the thread......COMIC RELIEF instead of doing this.

I suppose if TOTV does not care...the posters do not seem to mind, lets just forget copyright law and the rules of the forum.

Not knowing who cheated and cutted and pasted to pass of as their own work will be fun

I'm not really "disappointed," I'm actually feeling more vindicated than anything, since it's been pointed out numerous times that this user has shown to have very few original thoughts of his own...so he's reduced to plagiarizing without citing sources. :oops:

Plagiarism or not though, the positive thing is that the closet racists here are at least slowly oozing out of the woodwork...and publicly exposing themselves. :thumbup:

[MDLNB]

I'm not really "disappointed," I'm actually feeling more vindicated than anything, since it's been pointed out numerous times that this user has shown to have very few original thoughts of his own...so he's reduced to plagiarizing without citing sources. :oops:

Plagiarism or not though, the positive thing is that the closet racists here are at least slowly oozing out of the woodwork...and publicly exposing themselves. :thumbup:

Who cares? Only you, because you still can't come up with anything except your tirade of accusations. You must be a very unhappy person. Oh, that's right your candidate LOST....:a20:

[MDLNB]

I am very disappointed.

AGAIN, 90% of what you post is copied and pasted (plagerized) from a website called HOAXANDCHANGE.

Here is a link to what you passed off as your post.

❝If you are born white you are automatically a racist❞ – Hoax And Change (http://www.hoaxandchange.com/2016/08/%E2%9D%9Dif-you-are-born-white-you-are-automatically-a-racist%E2%9D%9E/)

I have an appointment this morning so had no chance to find out more but it advertises itself as a SECOND AMMENDMENT website and has some very cruel things to say.

But, sure wish you had responded to my direct question to you on the thread......COMIC RELIEF instead of doing this.

I suppose if TOTV does not care...the posters do not seem to mind, lets just forget copyright law and the rules of the forum.

Not knowing who cheated and cutted and pasted to pass of as their own work will be fun

You are right, we don't care. So, get over it. If you don't agree with something someone posts, then insert your "valid" point. In this case, you did not like it's origin, but you did not refute the content. What's wrong with you?

[Don Baldwin]

I'm not really "disappointed," I'm actually feeling more vindicated than anything, since it's been pointed out numerous times that this user has shown to have very few original thoughts of his own...so he's reduced to plagiarizing without citing sources. :oops:

Plagiarism or not though, the positive thing is that the closet racists here are at least slowly oozing out of the woodwork...and publicly exposing themselves. :thumbup:

You're going to be surprised just how many of us there are...why do you think we MOVED to 99% whiteville? I ask why are you here? To take advantage of what "we", white people built and try to destroy it at the same time? We like being around white people, we don't like being around minorities...it's simple.

You are right, we don't care. So, get over it. If you don't agree with something someone posts, then insert your "valid" point. In this case, you did not like it's origin, but you did not refute the content. What's wrong with you?

They're mentally ill liberals. Liberals can't see the truth in things. If it SHOULD be a certain way...then it IS...in their mind.

They also have NO facts to back up their equality claims. It's why there's nothing but name calling from them. No defense of their position...because there isn't any. Diversity destroys EVERYWHERE it rears its ugly head.

[Sandtrap328]

Amazing. We have two reasonable longtime posters taking points from a plagerized site without even reading it. They seem to agree with the site that you are either on one fringe or the other. Folks, there is a middle ground.

Then, to make it worse, these two fine longtime posters are aligning themselves with the fringe right like Don Baldwin and MDLNB.

Being a centrist is not being wishy washy. It is seeing some of both sides. You both have some social welfare ideas that are good. You both have some conservative ideas that are good.

Don't let the fringe theories of some sway you into being fringe thinkers. Remember the fringe followers is what got Hitler appointed as chancellor of Germany in 1933.

[Allegiance]

Anyone that ignores the content of the post after reading it, but instead searches the Internet to find its origin is deflecting the facts, like a true liberal.

Everyone, 100% of the world, each and every person, every man woman and child knows that rocky was never a conservative. I even asked bucco and she agreed.

Why do Liberals always deflect and blame Conservatives when ever you confront them on any issue? | Yahoo Answers (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20141217073451AAJo2Ru)

Even the morons on yahoo know rocky.

Everything the op said was true. Who the Uck cares if part or all was pasted. It's called smart. Researching the site he cut it from is call bizzare.

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[billethkid]

Some opposing responses remind me of contrarians.....no matter the subject they are against or opposed.....just because.

[Chi-Town]

Anyone that ignores the content of the post after reading it, but instead searches the Internet to find its origin is deflecting the facts, like a true liberal.

Everyone, 100% of the world, each and every person, every man woman and child knows that rocky was never a conservative. I even asked bucco and she agreed.

Why do Liberals always deflect and blame Conservatives when ever you confront them on any issue? | Yahoo Answers (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20141217073451AAJo2Ru)

Even the morons on yahoo know rocky.

Everything the op said was true. Who the Uck cares if part or all was pasted. It's called smart. Researching the site he cut it from is call bizzare.

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Al, PBR got caught again. No big deal anymore, but it needs to be pointed out. Slamming the poster who caught him is an old deflection trick.

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[Don Baldwin]

Amazing. We have two reasonable longtime posters taking points from a plagerized site without even reading it. They seem to agree with the site that you are either on one fringe or the other. Folks, there is a middle ground.

Then, to make it worse, these two fine longtime posters are aligning themselves with the fringe right like Don Baldwin and MDLNB.

Being a centrist is not being wishy washy. It is seeing some of both sides. You both have some social welfare ideas that are good. You both have some conservative ideas that are good.

Don't let the fringe theories of some sway you into being fringe thinkers. Remember the fringe followers is what got Hitler appointed as chancellor of Germany in 1933.

Yes...it is. You define "centrist" wrong. They have MODERATE or central views.

If you have some liberal and some conservative views it doesn't put you in the middle. It makes you liberal or conservative one way or the other depending on the issue. MOST independents are like that. They don't relate completely with either side.

[Rockyrd]

To those who find fault with me calling out those who plagerize, I can only say....

I find it very "interesting" that posters who point out flaws of others, whether it be because they misspell Sumter with a p, say something about the developer, or in some way do not follow to the letter the rules of the forum we post on, tolerate, and in fact SUPPORT violations not only of the law but also of their forum.

These people either have two faces to present, or feel the rules only apply. in some fashion, where THEY decide.

I am not the best communicator but do not present myself in that manner. I recognize that, and thus simply state my thoughts.

I consider copy and paste of someone else's work to be lazy at best. Those who do it, normally are well aware that it violates the law and the rules of the forum they are posting on. It shows a disrespect for both and also for all the other posters that read and assume they are reading what the poster thinks and not what he/she simply copied and presented as their own thoughts

To the poster who felt I was ignoring the message contained, yes I was. I do not come on here to read what you or anyone cuts and pastes. What a waste of time that would be. Save that for an app that does it for you. This is the same arguement for those who feel I am deflecting. I do not deflect, and my post had nothing to do with the subject matter, thus my wonder is exactly who is deflecting. You all seem to be ok with cheating.

To the post pointing out the middle ground, I agree. BUT the point I made had nothing to do with the content. It had to do with violation of the copyright law AND the rules of this forum. But, you found that, it seems to be just fine. When someone uses anothers words without the courtesy of allowing the "listeners" to know that, they are presenting a fake and false idea and thus I simply do not even listen.

You post about extremes is something I have been preaching on here for a long time. You sentence "Being a centrist is not being wishy washy. It is seeing some of both sides. You both have some social welfare ideas that are good. You both have some conservative ideas that are good." is accurate and I agree. This non extreme viewpoint does not require going to the depths of the net to what are SPECIALIZED websites for extreme thinking.

I know this website is extreme but not even going to search for any information. I have pointed out the extreme websites on here any number of times and nobody seems to care, as long as it validates what they want to think...something many of those SAME people used to giggle about when speaking of this kind of thing in the past. I can recall a few of the posters here today who mocked and agreed on how you might find a site to validate UFO's if you looked hard enough.

To those who say you just do not care, well that says it all, doesnt it ?

i am more disappointed in those who know but do not care or those who carry two distinct faces with them and care on the main forum but do not care on this one. Yes, they say it is all GUEST and we dont know but we all know who is posting what thus that is not a good point to make.

While I can disagree with many, I, at least, want them to be honest and know that I am replying to how THEY feel, and not what some remote website told them to think.

I suppose having posters tell you "well said" or show an iccon applauding you is a reward, but I always felt this particular poster did not need any help in presenting his views.

It is striking to me to read posts who condemn loudly people of color or different ethnic groups for "violating the law" or showing "disrespect" for the law and others and yet applaud the violations we discuss here.

[Chi-Town]

I'm not really "disappointed," I'm actually feeling more vindicated than anything, since it's been pointed out numerous times that this user has shown to have very few original thoughts of his own...so he's reduced to plagiarizing without citing sources. :oops:

Plagiarism or not though, the positive thing is that the closet racists here are at least slowly oozing out of the woodwork...and publicly exposing themselves. [emoji106]

You are right about posters exposing themselves lately. No doubt the Trump train let them jump on board. BTK, a curmudgeon from way back doesn't surprise me but disappoints. GG, who has spent so much of her time presenting a nurturing facade is blowing that image wide open. What goes on in this forum leaks over to the other side. And guest doesn't work anymore.




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[Rockyrd]

You are right about posters exposing themselves lately. No doubt the Trump train let them jump on board. BTK, a curmudgeon from way back doesn't surprise me but disappoints. GG, who has spent so much of her time presenting a nurturing facade is blowing that image wide open. What goes on in this forum leaks over to the other side. And guest doesn't work anymore.




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Yes....hate does show through.

Amazing to me personally....I was Bucco/Rags123 and left for a bit because of the hate pm's I was getting about my supposed hate for Obama and my total and complete stupidity about liberals, and my blind arrogant GOP conservative mentality.

I have not changed my views and now am getting blistered as just the opposite.

Because I do not think Trump should have been the nominee or the President and not based on policies at all.....simply his terrible character, morals and his constant lying both to voters.

i guess that is the Trump Train...I do not know, but haters do not become haters overnight.....they just wait for a chance to be open about it.

[billethkid]

You are right about posters exposing themselves lately. No doubt the Trump train let them jump on board. BTK, a curmudgeon from way back doesn't surprise me but disappoints. GG, who has spent so much of her time presenting a nurturing facade is blowing that image wide open. What goes on in this forum leaks over to the other side. And guest doesn't work anymore.

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You, and at times others have me at a disadvantage. Somehow you have my ID but all I ever see is "guest".

Curmudgeon? Disappoints? Says what self appointed authoritarian? You forgot to state as measured by what. Opposing commentary? Stating what one believes/opines? Does not fall in line with what another THINKS or tauts as correct or superior or non-curmudgeon!!

I would emphasize to the administrators that if some can see the identities then we should all be able to see the identities......or not.

My positions do not change per the identity shown or not.
I would like to have the ability to differentiate and/or categorize as others are able.

[Abby10]

I am very disappointed.

AGAIN, 90% of what you post is copied and pasted (plagerized) from a website called HOAXANDCHANGE.

Here is a link to what you passed off as your post.

❝If you are born white you are automatically a racist❞ – Hoax And Change (http://www.hoaxandchange.com/2016/08/%E2%9D%9Dif-you-are-born-white-you-are-automatically-a-racist%E2%9D%9E/)

I have an appointment this morning so had no chance to find out more but it advertises itself as a SECOND AMMENDMENT website and has some very cruel things to say.

But, sure wish you had responded to my direct question to you on the thread......COMIC RELIEF instead of doing this.

I suppose if TOTV does not care...the posters do not seem to mind, lets just forget copyright law and the rules of the forum.

Not knowing who cheated and cutted and pasted to pass of as their own work will be fun

I'm confused. In looking at the link you provided, the OP's post was certainly not a copy and paste job. Was it similar in content? - yes. Did the OP plagiarize? - maybe, if he actually saw the post you point out and "copied" the idea from that, but it appears you assume a lot before you jump on someone with your attacks. And for those who are piling onto your attack, I question if they even looked at your link before doing so. I'm just wondering, why so much animosity about a presumption? And for those piling on against the OP, do you check things out before doing so or is this just a "witch hunt" to bring someone down who has an opposing view?

[autumnspring]

Who cares? Only you, because you still can't come up with anything except your tirade of accusations. You must be a very unhappy person. Oh, that's right your candidate LOST....:a20:

I voted for TRUMP.
I hope THAT AMERICA WON.

Can TRUMP bring AMERICA together?
I HOPE SO BUT THE JOB SEEMS TO BE IMPOSSIBLE BASED ON THE POSTS ON THIS SITE AND MANY LIKE IT.

As to the accusations from the left. They are like the three year old who has learned a DIRTY WORD. THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE WORD MEANS BUT IT SEEMS TO DISTURB MOM AND DAD WHEN THEY SAY IT IT PUBLIC.

FOR THE LIBERALS THROWING ABOUT CHARGES THAT TRUMP IS A NAZI-THIS CLEARLY SHOWS THAT YOU SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. Under Nazism, the function of a citizen is to serve the state, TRUMP LIKE HIM OR NOT, is a CAPITALIST. Under CAPITALISM the individual has a duty to SUPPORT HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY and the duty of the state is to serve the individual.
The charge of RACISM. That charge is like saying do you still beat your wife. Any reply and you have admitted guilt.
TRUMP built a golf course, the members wanted to exclude Jews and Blacks. TRUMP risked HIS OWN MONEY and refused to open it unless the allowed both Jews and Blacks. What is important is not what someone says but what they do. BOTH OBAMA AND HILLARY HAVE CHOSEN TO SURROUND THEMSELVES WITH ANTISEMITES AND ANTI WHITE-LIBERAL OR NOT HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE OBVIOUS

[Chi-Town]

I voted for TRUMP.
I hope THAT AMERICA WON.

Can TRUMP bring AMERICA together?
I HOPE SO BUT THE JOB SEEMS TO BE IMPOSSIBLE BASED ON THE POSTS ON THIS SITE AND MANY LIKE IT.

As to the accusations from the left. They are like the three year old who has learned a DIRTY WORD. THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE WORD MEANS BUT IT SEEMS TO DISTURB MOM AND DAD WHEN THEY SAY IT IT PUBLIC.

FOR THE LIBERALS THROWING ABOUT CHARGES THAT TRUMP IS A NAZI-THIS CLEARLY SHOWS THAT YOU SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. Under Nazism, the function of a citizen is to serve the state, TRUMP LIKE HIM OR NOT, is a CAPITALIST. Under CAPITALISM the individual has a duty to SUPPORT HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY and the duty of the state is to serve the individual.
The charge of RACISM. That charge is like saying do you still beat your wife. Any reply and you have admitted guilt.
TRUMP built a golf course, the members wanted to exclude Jews and Blacks. TRUMP risked HIS OWN MONEY and refused to open it unless the allowed both Jews and Blacks. What is important is not what someone says but what they do. BOTH OBAMA AND HILLARY HAVE CHOSEN TO SURROUND THEMSELVES WITH ANTISEMITES AND ANTI WHITE-LIBERAL OR NOT HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE OBVIOUS
Screaming things out does not make them obvious. Just the opposite.

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[Buffalo Jim]

I am very disappointed.

AGAIN, 90% of what you post is copied and pasted (plagerized) from a website called HOAXANDCHANGE.

Here is a link to what you passed off as your post.

❝If you are born white you are automatically a racist❞ – Hoax And Change (http://www.hoaxandchange.com/2016/08/%E2%9D%9Dif-you-are-born-white-you-are-automatically-a-racist%E2%9D%9E/)

I have an appointment this morning so had no chance to find out more but it advertises itself as a SECOND AMMENDMENT website and has some very cruel things to say.

But, sure wish you had responded to my direct question to you on the thread......COMIC RELIEF instead of doing this.

I suppose if TOTV does not care...the posters do not seem to mind, lets just forget copyright law and the rules of the forum.

Not knowing who cheated and cutted and pasted to pass of as their own work will be fun

No one has ever " cutted " anything . Thjey may have " cut " something . They may have " cut and pasted " something . However no one in the history of the English language has ever
" cutted " anything !
And you sit on your keyboard lecturing about subjects that you
obviously know little about with your very poor grammar yet you feel so smug and superior .
You should also spend some time learning about what really constitutes plagiarism .
Plagiarism involves a person who identifies themselves taking credit for the work of others for some form of personal " gain " such as cash , or a grade or a work for which they have been paid to produce .
The person who made the post is not identified and has posted the material with no form of " gain " to be obtained .
Your claims are as silly as the liar who is presently Chair of the DNC ........... The lying and cheating racist known as Donna Brazile .

[debbieingigharbor]

You, and at times others have me at a disadvantage. Somehow you have my ID but all I ever see is "guest".

Curmudgeon? Disappoints? Says what self appointed authoritarian? You forgot to state as measured by what. Opposing commentary? Stating what one believes/opines? Does not fall in line with what another THINKS or tauts as correct or superior or non-curmudgeon!!

I would emphasize to the administrators that if some can see the identities then we should all be able to see the identities......or not.

My positions do not change per the identity shown or not.
I would like to have the ability to differentiate and/or categorize as others are able.

Good point. Can someone explain how administrators on this site share identities of posters. I'm ok with it as long as we can also identify the right wing racists as well.

[janmcn]

Good point. Can someone explain how administrators on this site share identities of posters. I'm ok with it as long as we can also identify the right wing racists as well.

By your URL number.

[Allegiance]

To those who find fault with me calling out those who plagerize, I can only say....

I find it very "interesting" that posters who point out flaws of others, whether it be because they misspell Sumter with a p, say something about the developer, or in some way do not follow to the letter the rules of the forum we post on, tolerate, and in fact SUPPORT violations not only of the law but also of their forum.

These people either have two faces to present, or feel the rules only apply. in some fashion, where THEY decide.

I am not the best communicator but do not present myself in that manner. I recognize that, and thus simply state my thoughts.

I consider copy and paste of someone else's work to be lazy at best. Those who do it, normally are well aware that it violates the law and the rules of the forum they are posting on. It shows a disrespect for both and also for all the other posters that read and assume they are reading what the poster thinks and not what he/she simply copied and presented as their own thoughts

To the poster who felt I was ignoring the message contained, yes I was. I do not come on here to read what you or anyone cuts and pastes. What a waste of time that would be. Save that for an app that does it for you. This is the same arguement for those who feel I am deflecting. I do not deflect, and my post had nothing to do with the subject matter, thus my wonder is exactly who is deflecting. You all seem to be ok with cheating.

To the post pointing out the middle ground, I agree. BUT the point I made had nothing to do with the content. It had to do with violation of the copyright law AND the rules of this forum. But, you found that, it seems to be just fine. When someone uses anothers words without the courtesy of allowing the "listeners" to know that, they are presenting a fake and false idea and thus I simply do not even listen.

You post about extremes is something I have been preaching on here for a long time. You sentence "Being a centrist is not being wishy washy. It is seeing some of both sides. You both have some social welfare ideas that are good. You both have some conservative ideas that are good." is accurate and I agree. This non extreme viewpoint does not require going to the depths of the net to what are SPECIALIZED websites for extreme thinking.

I know this website is extreme but not even going to search for any information. I have pointed out the extreme websites on here any number of times and nobody seems to care, as long as it validates what they want to think...something many of those SAME people used to giggle about when speaking of this kind of thing in the past. I can recall a few of the posters here today who mocked and agreed on how you might find a site to validate UFO's if you looked hard enough.

To those who say you just do not care, well that says it all, doesnt it ?

i am more disappointed in those who know but do not care or those who carry two distinct faces with them and care on the main forum but do not care on this one. Yes, they say it is all GUEST and we dont know but we all know who is posting what thus that is not a good point to make.

While I can disagree with many, I, at least, want them to be honest and know that I am replying to how THEY feel, and not what some remote website told them to think.

I suppose having posters tell you "well said" or show an iccon applauding you is a reward, but I always felt this particular poster did not need any help in presenting his views.

It is striking to me to read posts who condemn loudly people of color or different ethnic groups for "violating the law" or showing "disrespect" for the law and others and yet applaud the violations we discuss here.
I would respond but you wrote too many words, way past my attention span. I give you credit, you are a devout LIBERAL. Merry Christmas.

I am calling a truce... until the new year. God Bless

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[Allegiance]

Al, PBR got caught again. No big deal anymore, but it needs to be pointed out. Slamming the poster who caught him is an old deflection trick.

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Hey don't slam me for deflecting when calling rocky out for deflecting.

I call a no double deflecting rule.

[Rockyrd]

I'm confused. In looking at the link you provided, the OP's post was certainly not a copy and paste job. Was it similar in content? - yes. Did the OP plagiarize? - maybe, if he actually saw the post you point out and "copied" the idea from that, but it appears you assume a lot before you jump on someone with your attacks. And for those who are piling onto your attack, I question if they even looked at your link before doing so. I'm just wondering, why so much animosity about a presumption? And for those piling on against the OP, do you check things out before doing so or is this just a "witch hunt" to bring someone down who has an opposing view?

LOOK....this is not the first time, thus YES....as I said, it was about 90% plagerized. If you went to the link you saw exactly what was plagerized.

So, yes if this was a slip up, an original, once in a whatever, but it happens all the time and then the same poster will end up lecturing everyone as if he has the knowledge, when in fact, it is not his to share...it belongs to someone else.

As you can see, I am not a fan of cheating, no matter the degree. Especially, as I said in my next post...cheating by those who pass such judgements on others and do it for reasons UNRELATED but mostly on outward appearances.

We lived in Tampa for a short bit, during the OCCUPY WALL ST time, and on the old political forum there was much discussion on this, and I wasnt sure. Out side the high rise we lived in were a group of these protesters almost every evening and sometimes during the day. I decided to visit with them in person and see what they had to say. Was an eye opener....young folks, black and white...would say mostly black. And they gave me an education about how ripping of welfare was actually being taught, how they could care less about their supposed cause. Never forgot that because folks on this forum were simply telling lies about the movement and posting false information from dubious websites. I protested and that is just about when I began to get nasty pm's and packed it in.

Since then, I am wary of anyone using others words to make any point. If you have an opinion, express it in your own words.

I use others words, only to give credence to whatever I am discussing by showing it in the NEWS format. Even if I find a website that says what I want I check it out, and mostly find they have left something out....present it in a different package.

So...yes, I have a problem with plagarizing and in todays age it is horrible what some of these websites say and do...imagine websites that openly give you ONLY a pro Russian stance. Those get copied and pasted on here as well.

So, guilty as charged by you. Just remember, this is not the first time for this poster and he lectures everyone on following rules, but I am sure he does not aim those lectures at his "equals". And it appears, not sure, but he loves the "good post" or in this case, ironically "well said" and applause that follows.

AND BY THE WAY, I love opposing views of POSTERS, not of another website. The view may be based on that website and they give it as accredition but simply cutting and pasting is just lazy. OPPOSING VIEWS should be welcome on here, but mostlY it is preaching based on easily debunked lies.

I apologize if you were offended and frankly that particular poster and I actually in the past would mostly agree. Something happened, and I THINK I did not change....I know I do not subscribe to some of the far right and radical views of his which appear to be new found., or newly stated.

For those who regal in twisting my words, MANY i KNOW...admit to not being great at communicating....

I am a conservative and have been for many years (younger days was an active liberal but that was about 50 years ago)

I do not and never did support President Obama. It was not because of his race as obviously many do, but because I differed greatly with his policies especially foreign.

I did not and have announced it on here loud and clear support Hillary Clinton.

I still believe in conservative ideas BUT find our current President elect to be so lacking in human decency and honestly, I would be a liar simply to support him because he is a Republican. And yes, that gives me pause with the elected officials who support him...I realize that is their profession, but he is an exception and I am still very concerned about our future with him in the WH.

As I have said again many times, I want our country to succeed and will support whatever makes that happen. I believe in conservative ideals of small government, etc and will allow you a link in my next post to show you the difference between a Republican and a conservative TODAY !

Finally, I never have judged another person by the color of his skin, his heritage, nor his religion. I say that so you know I DO disagree with that poster on his presentation. I believe most of the race problems that folks on here delight in posting is of an economical and not racial. When a young boy, different heritages were considered as blacks are today, until they gained economic footing. I can never judge an entire race, an entire country or an entire religion. I, unlike many posters on here, am not that smart. It might make them feel good but it is not accurate

[Rockyrd]

I would respond but you wrote too many words, way past my attention span. I give you credit, you are a devout LIBERAL. Merry Christmas.

I am calling a truce... until the new year. God Bless

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No truce necessary. i respond to the typed word which is what you are feeling.

It does manifest what I always suspected however...your short (some use the word non existent) attention span.

[Rockyrd]

I referred to this article and opinion piece earlier and said i would post it....a preview....

"It is one of fate’s cruel jokes that conservatism should be at its modern nadir just as the Republican Party is at its zenith — if conservatism is defined as embracing limited government, displaying a rational, skeptical and moderate temperament and believing in the priority of the moral order.

All these principles are related, and under attack."

"This is not the political force that has recently taken over the Republican Party — with a plurality in the presidential primaries and a narrow victory in November. That has been the result of extreme polarization, not a turn toward enduring values. The movement is authoritarian in theory, apocalyptic in mood, prone to conspiracy theories and personal abuse, and dismissive of ethical standards. The president-elect seems to offer equal chances of constitutional crisis and utter, debilitating incompetence.

The GOP is at its peak, but conservatism has hit rock bottom - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-is-at-its-peak-but-conservatism-has-hit-rock-bottom/2016/12/19/ebcb896e-c624-11e6-8bee-54e800ef2a63_story.html?utm_term=.1d03ffdc5099)

I subscribe to this mostly and the Republican party while correctly saying how the Democrats have moved left....have sped so far right it is tough for me. Not enough people to blame, and too many conspiracy theories to keep track of

[rubicon]

I am very disappointed.

AGAIN, 90% of what you post is copied and pasted (plagerized) from a website called HOAXANDCHANGE.

Here is a link to what you passed off as your post.

❝If you are born white you are automatically a racist❞ – Hoax And Change (http://www.hoaxandchange.com/2016/08/%E2%9D%9Dif-you-are-born-white-you-are-automatically-a-racist%E2%9D%9E/)

I have an appointment this morning so had no chance to find out more but it advertises itself as a SECOND AMMENDMENT website and has some very cruel things to say.

But, sure wish you had responded to my direct question to you on the thread......COMIC RELIEF instead of doing this.

I suppose if TOTV does not care...the posters do not seem to mind, lets just forget copyright law and the rules of the forum.

Not knowing who cheated and cutted and pasted to pass of as their own work will be fun

I don't know nor care who you are or the undercurrents dictating your life but it is clear that you have intentionally placed a target on my back and continue to falsely accuse me of plagiarism in order to discredit me and I believe silence me. And in the event it has not occurred to you its a form of bullying, not that I'm bothered in the least, but point it out as a reflection of your behavior and hopefully an awakening

I don't know what Hoax and change is/are but I don't read it, I told you that once before.

I do read broadly from newspapers magazines, internet, etc in order to validate as best as one can the accuracy of what is being reported.

What I write /post is a compilation of those readings based on my expression and beliefs of the content digested, therein "my position, my sharing and my product".

Since none of us are investigative reporter/journalist we espouse/write/post based on what we have learned and what we feel is the truth as respect and reflects our point of view.

So if you read something similar to what I wrote in Hoax and change then the authors of said website apparently also copied from another source(s) in part or whole. I have no control over that, and please note that a person today reads more information in the morning edition than past humankind had accumulated in a lifetime

I have been very polite and patient with you up to this point but honestly I tire of you using me as your whipping boy. I refrain again from launching a personal attack so as to adhere to the rules of this forum. In return I would expect the same respect.

If you would like to direct your comments toward your position as relates to the subject matter they would be most welcome

Personal Best Regards:

[billethkid]

I do not remember there was this much pontificating about the ineptness, the competency, the threat, the lack of experience, the race radical footings and the wringing of hands by so many when an unknown black man out of the bowels of corruption and mayhem Chicago Illinois.

If Obama was acceptable and supposedly made so many people happy (according to the media and other benefactors) while in the process of taking our country back 50 years in race relations, weakend the military, taking the USA from lead position in the world to also ran in so many categories, allowing Russia and China to catch, pass and thumb their nose at the USA, supporting an open border let anybody in and pay them benefits, never take a country or nation to task for wrong doing for fear of a response.......and so on and on.

If that doesn't scare anybody then there is absolutely nothing to fear from Trump.

Those who fear Trump are those who are benefactors of the above describe sahme of America.....along with those politicians who feel thretaened by Trump's promise to disrupt the status quo. And of course the millions of illegals.....not the good one's....the scourge and criminals and terrorists.......these special interests with the utility of the main stream media amplifier.....should have something to fear.

The rest of us, those who voted for him did so to correct, disrupt and repair the establishment.
And there enough of us to not only get him elected but to wipe the map (pun intended) with Clinton.

NO FEAR for those who want a better America that was criminally not deliverable by the likes of Obama and the Washington crony, establishment (both R & D).

[rubicon]

When I wrote post #29 I never had gotten any further than post #4. After completing #29 I went back to review the remaining pages and what a surprise.:1rotfl:

What the heck is going on with this forum? Who are these mask men/women that can only denigrate, accuse, mock? The emotional upheavals and personal attacks are becoming very disturbing. Are these posters residents of The Villages? I am trying to be polite here and non judgmental but this behavior does not reflect what I experience when I come in contact with villages residents at golf courses, etc.

Do you suppose we have a Jeckel & Hyde phenomenon going on here? Do you suppose these mask men/women will every learn to address the content of a post vis a vis attacking the poster? Are they beyond help? Let's hope not for the sake of Political Talk.

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

I don't know nor care who you are or the undercurrents dictating your life but it is clear that you have intentionally placed a target on my back and continue to falsely accuse me of plagiarism in order to discredit me and I believe silence me. And in the event it has not occurred to you its a form of bullying, not that I'm bothered in the least, but point it out as a reflection of your behavior and hopefully an awakening

I don't know what Hoax and change is/are but I don't read it, I told you that once before.

I do read broadly from newspapers magazines, internet, etc in order to validate as best as one can the accuracy of what is being reported.

What I write /post is a compilation of those readings based on my expression and beliefs of the content digested, therein "my position, my sharing and my product".

Since none of us are investigative reporter/journalist we espouse/write/post based on what we have learned and what we feel is the truth as respect and reflects our point of view.

So if you read something similar to what I wrote in Hoax and change then the authors of said website apparently also copied from another source(s) in part or whole. I have no control over that, and please note that a person today reads more information in the morning edition than past humankind had accumulated in a lifetime

I have been very polite and patient with you up to this point but honestly I tire of you using me as your whipping boy. I refrain again from launching a personal attack so as to adhere to the rules of this forum. In return I would expect the same respect.

If you would like to direct your comments toward your position as relates to the subject matter they would be most welcome

Personal Best Regards:

HMMMM....never been accused of bullying..that is new.

Lets just say that your words posted from you are from your ideas that you compiled, and assume the fact that this post and the one from the pro Russian post which had the exact same words was simply a coincidence and you might be correct...they copied it from you word for word.

[Chi-Town]

I do not remember there was this much pontificating about the ineptness, the competency, the threat, the lack of experience, the race radical footings and the wringing of hands by so many when an unknown black man out of the bowels of corruption and mayhem Chicago Illinois.

If Obama was acceptable and supposedly made so many people happy (according to the media and other benefactors) while in the process of taking our country back 50 years in race relations, weakend the military, taking the USA from lead position in the world to also ran in so many categories, allowing Russia and China to catch, pass and thumb their nose at the USA, supporting an open border let anybody in and pay them benefits, never take a country or nation to task for wrong doing for fear of a response.......and so on and on.

If that doesn't scare anybody then there is absolutely nothing to fear from Trump.

Those who fear Trump are those who are benefactors of the above describe sahme of America.....along with those politicians who feel thretaened by Trump's promise to disrupt the status quo. And of course the millions of illegals.....not the good one's....the scourge and criminals and terrorists.......these special interests with the utility of the main stream media amplifier.....should have something to fear.

The rest of us, those who voted for him did so to correct, disrupt and repair the establishment.
And there enough of us to not only get him elected but to wipe the map (pun intended) with Clinton.

NO FEAR for those who want a better America that was criminally not deliverable by the likes of Obama and the Washington crony, establishment (both R & D).

Well BTK, you are improving. At least you didn't say a black man out of the bowels of Kenya.

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[Rockyrd]

When I wrote post #29 I never had gotten any further than post #4. After completing #29 I went back to review the remaining pages and what a surprise.:1rotfl:

What the heck is going on with this forum? Who are these mask men/women that can only denigrate, accuse, mock? The emotional upheavals and personal attacks are becoming very disturbing. Are these posters residents of The Villages? I am trying to be polite here and non judgmental but this behavior does not reflect what I experience when I come in contact with villages residents at golf courses, etc.

Do you suppose we have a Jeckel & Hyde phenomenon going on here? Do you suppose these mask men/women will every learn to address the content of a post vis a vis attacking the poster? Are they beyond help? Let's hope not for the sake of Political Talk.

Personal Best Regards:

Just one question....do these rules also apply to YOU ?

Or just us minions ?

I am not masked...I have been extremely open in who I am and what I believe. ONE DAY we may get back to discussing the issues facing this country and drop the racial talk and then blasting of the Clintons, who I must add I do not and did not support (that has become a requirement to prevent the bashing of me as a crazy libtard or some other name)

I will certainly remember your advice about "denigrate, accuse, mock" when I read your posts. Thanks for sharing your advice.

I leave with your words from post one...

"These pages are loaded with unhealthy and dividing accusations of racism and frankly its has to stop"

Certainly not denigrating, mocking or accusing.

You post surely is not in any way to be considered racial I see

"Ostensibly the liberal narrative is absolute in its message and that perpetuates the divide This nation stands strong because of the contribution and sacrifices of white men from the days of the Pilgrims to the sands of Iraq . simply stated this nations historical narrative has to be brought into a realistic perspective as related to the human experience"

Those statements for me anyway sort of collide. First you call on all of us on here to stop our "unhealthy accusations of racism" and then say how strong this nation is because of white men. Do you not see a little confusion there ?

I do not feel threatened in any way by those who are not white. I never felt, as you say...not plagerized but your thoughts...being white makes you a racist. It does not, as YOU say it is does, make you a racist to be white and if you allow that, it is on you and nobody else. How does a President who has a different skin color than you intimidate you and why so much ?

If you are speaking of stereo typing....why do you not mention the Italians and the gangsters.....the Irish and the drinking....oh heck, the Jewish and money and banking. Only the skin color is mentioned. If I am correct, you go directly to Black Lives Matter, an organization I take great umbrage with but how do they intimidate you ? Why ? They have less control over the Democratic party than the NRA has on the Republican party !

Not sure what your intent in this post is.....you and others seem to be obsessed with skin color, intimidated in some way. Someone, not sure if it was you, said they actually feel free to be "white and Christian" because Obama is leaving office. How is that ?

Maybe if you explain it because I much prefer talking about economy etc rather than discussing the skin color, religion or ethnic background of my fellow americans,

But then again....it has to be me, right ?

[rubicon]

Just one question....do these rules also apply to YOU ?

Or just us minions ?

I am not masked...I have been extremely open in who I am and what I believe. ONE DAY we may get back to discussing the issues facing this country and drop the racial talk and then blasting of the Clintons, who I must add I do not and did not support (that has become a requirement to prevent the bashing of me as a crazy libtard or some other name)

I will certainly remember your advice about "denigrate, accuse, mock" when I read your posts. Thanks for sharing your advice.

I leave with your words from post one...

"These pages are loaded with unhealthy and dividing accusations of racism and frankly its has to stop"

Certainly not denigrating, mocking or accusing.

You post surely is not in any way to be considered racial I see

"Ostensibly the liberal narrative is absolute in its message and that perpetuates the divide This nation stands strong because of the contribution and sacrifices of white men from the days of the Pilgrims to the sands of Iraq . simply stated this nations historical narrative has to be brought into a realistic perspective as related to the human experience"

Those statements for me anyway sort of collide. First you call on all of us on here to stop our "unhealthy accusations of racism" and then say how strong this nation is because of white men. Do you not see a little confusion there ?

I do not feel threatened in any way by those who are not white. I never felt, as you say...not plagerized but your thoughts...being white makes you a racist. It does not, as YOU say it is does, make you a racist to be white and if you allow that, it is on you and nobody else. How does a President who has a different skin color than you intimidate you and why so much ?

If you are speaking of stereo typing....why do you not mention the Italians and the gangsters.....the Irish and the drinking....oh heck, the Jewish and money and banking. Only the skin color is mentioned. If I am correct, you go directly to Black Lives Matter, an organization I take great umbrage with but how do they intimidate you ? Why ? They have less control over the Democratic party than the NRA has on the Republican party !

Not sure what your intent in this post is.....you and others seem to be obsessed with skin color, intimidated in some way. Someone, not sure if it was you, said they actually feel free to be "white and Christian" because Obama is leaving office. How is that ?

Maybe if you explain it because I much prefer talking about economy etc rather than discussing the skin color, religion or ethnic background of my fellow americans,

But then again....it has to be me, right ?

So I'm guessing that you disagree with me...cool. Let's stop there I respect that you have a difference of opinion on this matter. My purpose in posting was not to argue, defend nor to attempt to change anyone's mind but only to share.

I'm done here and onto other opportunities

Personal Best Regards:

[billethkid]

Well BTK, you are improving. At least you didn't say a black man out of the bowels of Kenya.

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How can improvement measured against not using something I have never used or did not intend to use?
Sarcasm and oblique messaging does not work for me.

[janmcn]

I would respond but you wrote too many words, way past my attention span. I give you credit, you are a devout LIBERAL. Merry Christmas.

I am calling a truce... until the new year. God Bless

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Thank you Donald, now get back to your tweeting.

[ColdNoMore]

I'm done here and onto other opportunities


Like claiming that there are ony 300 counties in the United States...and that Clinton only won 50 of them? :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

Enjoy. :D

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1336263-post7.html

[MDLNB]

Like claiming that there are ony 300 counties in the United States...and that Clinton only won 50 of them? :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

Enjoy. :D

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1336263-post7.html

Actually, percentage-wise the number of counties won by Clinton is about right---about 15% of the counties in America. But, if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy to think that Hillary was cheated, go for it. Perhaps you can ask for another re-count and she can lose some more votes. Or, demonstrate again, and have the elector voters laugh at you while they take some votes from Hillary, giving her even less. But, I especially enjoyed the Hollywood ad where they implored the electors to be patriotic and vote for Hillary. I bet George Soros is really ticked off about all the money he wasted on Hillary. I wonder what "accident" will befall her and her demented hubby.

[larbud]

The only problem with MY whiteness is a half white mutt affirmative action un-American ******* saying I'm whats wrong with America...Well I guess maybe I was a part of the problem by paying taxes so his ilk could breed like rabbits...

[MDLNB]

The only problem with MY whiteness is a half white mutt affirmative action un-American ******* saying I'm whats wrong with America...Well I guess maybe I was a part of the problem by paying taxes so his ilk could breed like rabbits...

At the risk of being accused of being a racist, I agree with your opinion.

[Sandtrap328]

[QUOTE=Guest]The only problem with MY whiteness is a half white mutt affirmative action un-American ******* saying I'm whats wrong with America..
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Hey, Don Baldwin's brother is visiting for Kwanzaa!

[Don Baldwin]

The only problem with MY whiteness is a half white mutt affirmative action un-American ******* saying I'm whats wrong with America...Well I guess maybe I was a part of the problem by paying taxes so his ilk could breed like rabbits...

At the risk of being accused of being a racist, I agree with your opinion.

They ARE becoming the majority BECAUSE we DID encourage them to breed like rabbits.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Guest
The only problem with MY whiteness is a half white mutt affirmative action un-American ******* saying I'm whats wrong with America...Well I guess maybe I was a part of the problem by paying taxes so he would feel good about not paying Federal income tax for the last 18 years.



I am really surprised by this post. Only thing, I thought Donald Trump was all white! Oh well, I learned today he must not be. I will have to check it out on Snopes. :popcorn:

You changed it but you never told anyone...typical lib/woman/minority thing to do. Lie, cheat, steal...typical lib/woman/minority thing to do.

It's why where the white conservatives live is a paradise...like the villages. And where "your ilk" live...is a dump, a violent, destitute, dump. It's YOU it's your ACTIONS!

Oh yes...America needs more of that...it needs more of them...sure it does. /s

[Sandtrap328]

They ARE becoming the majority BECAUSE we DID encourage them to breed like rabbits.



You changed it but you never told anyone...typical lib/woman/minority thing to do. Lie, cheat, steal...typical lib/woman/minority thing to do.

It's why where the white conservatives live is a paradise...like the villages. And where "your ilk" live...is a dump, a violent, destitute, dump. It's YOU it's your ACTIONS!

Oh yes...America needs more of that...it needs more of them...sure it does. /s

Happy Kwanzaa, Don.

[Chi-Town]

At the risk of being accused of being a racist, I agree with your opinion.
No risk at all MD. Glad to see the tag team of you and LBud together

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[larbud]

The Ni223rs We have today are a democrat creation........ The Gracious, Kind,Caring Black People are a holdout from the past.. They appreciate what America has done for them and are ACTUALLY PROUD of being descendants of slaves... After all they would rather be in the greatest country in the world than be a Hyena turd... spin that a$$hole!

[Don Baldwin]

Happy Kwanzaa, Don.

A completely made up "holiday" to keep THEM quiet because "we" had Christmas. It's whole being screams...look at me, my people have no history...we were found living as cave men and haven't really changed much since. It's not that the former slaves have no great history/traditions...neither do the Africans. They were NO different than the Amazonian Indians or Papua New Guinean's, who are discovered every once in a while. People lost in time, people left behind.

You knew I couldn't resist...

The Ni223rs We have today are a democrat creation........ The Gracious, Kind,Caring Black People are a holdout from the past.. They appreciate what America has done for them and are ACTUALLY PROUD of being descendants of slaves... After all they would rather be in the greatest country in the world than be a Hyena turd... spin that a$$hole!

They're NOT us, they can't be...just as a cat can't be a dog. They NEVER amount to anything without others help. They're the bottom of the ladder...everywhere...there is not ONE place they're successful as a people...not one.

I just don't get why we keep throwing good money after bad. We're literally growing poverty. It's got to be the power of having those numbers on "your side" and the billions and billions going to the corporations who cater to the poor. Foodstamps is a $95 billion a year INDUSTRY. JP Morgan makes money on the EBT cards, Kraft, Tyson, all the big name food conglomerates make what they EBT people want. The SNAP program puts $95 billion a year into corporations' pockets.

There's money and numbers in the poor minorities. Look at Hillary...she almost won because she controls the minority poor.

[larbud]

a$$hole wasn't directed to You, Again I agree with much of what You say...

[Don Baldwin]

a$$hole wasn't directed to You, Again I agree with much of what You say...

I know...I was reinforcing what you'd said...we're good.

[Buffalo Jim]

To hold a Christmas Parade here in The Villages and not a Kwanza Parade is very " Tone Deaf " and very unfair !

[rubicon]

I'm not really "disappointed," I'm actually feeling more vindicated than anything, since it's been pointed out numerous times that this user has shown to have very few original thoughts of his own...so he's reduced to plagiarizing without citing sources. :oops:

Plagiarism or not though, the positive thing is that the closet racists here are at least slowly oozing out of the woodwork...and publicly exposing themselves. :thumbup:

Dear Guest: a recent TV video now banned, was a clear example of my intent and reason on posting this thread. That video was an intentional assault on white heterosexual males falsely claiming that by virtue of fact that they were white males that they were racist and otherwise prone to discrimination. This is a very concerted and intentional effort by the left and supported by the misplaced cultural agenda of the Obama Administration and it has helped create this cultural upheaval .

A prime example was the signal Obama sent intentional or otherwise when he met with Professor Gates and signaled clearly that he believed the police officer's conduct was racially motivated.

Again whether intentional or not it was really poor judgment on the part of Obama and on a number of levels. However the point is he signaled to the black community that he was out to get the "man"except Obama neglected to recognize he was "the man"and as such had responsibility to all Americans not just blacks

And the left fails to see or ignores that their attacks on white heterosexual males is discrimination in itself and that is a symptom created by circular thinking

If the left supports and continues to push this false narrative that to be white is to be a racist then the racial divide will never close and that was my point and my intention was to have civil discourse along those lines to come to a meeting of minds of sorts[/B]

But too many posters are reactionary. They can't or won't discuss, to ask why , perhaps they don't know how. Perhaps they recognize the truth of their untenable position on these matters

However what is clear to me is that Obama's push for cultural upheaval created a cultural divide that has the potential for anarchy

We all be the wiser to stop the rhetoric and come together united in solving these cultural differences.

Personal Best Regards:

[dirtbanker]

"And how can we seek salvation when our nations race relations
Got me feeling guilty of being white"

[dirtbanker]

It's another night in hell
Another child won't live to tell
Can you imagine what it's like to starve to death

And as we sit free and well
Another soldier has to yell
Tell my wife and children I love them in his last breath

C'mon now amen, amen, amen

Habitual offenders, scumbag lawyers with agendas
I'll tell you sometimes people I don't know what's worse
Natural disasters or these wolves in sheep clothes pastors
Now God damn it I'm scared to send my children to church
And how can we seek salvation when our nations race relations
Got me feeling guilty of being white
But faith in human nature, our creator and our savior, I'm no saint
But I believe in what is right

C'mon now amen, amen
I said amen, amen

Stop pointing fingers and take some blame,
Pull your future away from the flame
Open up your mind and start to live
Stop short changing your neighbors
Living off hand outs and favors, and maybe
Give a little bit more than you got to give

Simplify, testify, identify, rectify
And if I get high stop being so uptight
It's only human nature and I am not a stranger
So baby won't you stay with me tonight

When a calls away
To break the sound
I'm faden down, I need someone
Oh to be someone
They just sinken down, and holden back
I hold the dawn and run
They don't save a child
Oh, to save a child

It's a matter of salvation from them patience up above,
So don't give up so damn easy on the one you love, one you love
Somewhere you got a brother, sister, friend, grandmother, niece or nephew
Just dying to be with you
You know there's someone out there who unconditionally, religiously, loves you
So just hold on 'cause you know it's true
And if you can take the pain
And you can withstand anything, and one day
Stand hand in hand with the truth

I said amen, I said amen
I said amen, I said amen,

Amen

And for the plagiarism police; lyrics from AMEN with credit to Kid Rock!

[Don Baldwin]

Dear Guest: a recent TV video now banned, was a clear example of my intent and reason on posting this thread. That video was an intentional assault on white heterosexual males falsely claiming that by virtue of fact that they were white males that they were racist and otherwise prone to discrimination. This is a very concerted and intentional effort by the left and supported by the misplaced cultural agenda of the Obama Administration and it has helped create this cultural upheaval .

A prime example was the signal Obama sent intentional or otherwise when he met with Professor Gates and signaled clearly that he believed the police officer's conduct was racially motivated.

Again whether intentional or not it was really poor judgment on the part of Obama and on a number of levels. However the point is he signaled to the black community that he was out to get the "man"except Obama neglected to recognize he was "the man"and as such had responsibility to all Americans not just blacks

And the left fails to see or ignores that their attacks on white heterosexual males is discrimination in itself and that is a symptom created by circular thinking

If the left supports and continues to push this false narrative that to be white is to be a racist then the racial divide will never close and that was my point and my intention was to have civil discourse along those lines to come to a meeting of minds of sorts[/B]

But too many posters are reactionary. They can't or won't discuss, to ask why , perhaps they don't know how. Perhaps they recognize the truth of their untenable position on these matters

However what is clear to me is that Obama's push for cultural upheaval created a cultural divide that has the potential for anarchy

We all be the wiser to stop the rhetoric and come together united in solving these cultural differences.

Personal Best Regards:

It's genetic differences...genetic differences create cultural differences. If ALL you CAN understand is "magic and voodoo", then that is what your culture will be. Those who CAN understand science and cause and effect will develop a culture based on technology.

It's not rocket science, it's common sense when you open your eyes and stop believing the lies, the brainwashing, of equality.

Open borders and anchor babies destroyed this country...nothing else comes close. Hispanics are 1/3 the population and growing rapidly...that is our future...Mexico II.

[Rockyrd]

As a white man, I sincerely feel sorry for those of you who are white male or female, and for some reason, feel intimidated or "put upon" because of your skin color.

I can honestly say I felt absolutely no different about my skin color under the Obama administration, not intimidated, not uncomfortable, no more than G Bush presidency made me feel less Texan.

I felt just as Christian, just as white as ever.

Nor, did I ever meet anyone who felt intimidated or any different about their skin color because Obama was President.

The media felt obliged to force more race questions that in the past, and pay more attention to anyone not white who was appointed or worked with the President.

So whatever slight felt by white people is unfortunate. Actually, my disagreements with President Obama were on policy and I never thought about his skin color when disagreeing.

In my world, the Presidents race had no affect whatsoever.

In my world, the Presidents policies did have an effect.

[Don Baldwin]

"And how can we seek salvation when our nations race relations
Got me feeling guilty of being white"

That is a key line...liberals and women feel guilty for their "luck" in being born a human and feel sorry for the underdog minorities who weren't as fortunate.

What they fail to realize is the consequences of lowering ALL the standards so "even a caveman can do it". Geico was prophesizing our nations future.

They're NOT us. They CAN'T do what we do. Look at how they live...EVERYWHERE.

What's next, lower the standards so a dog can do it? To get a masters, all you need to do is "sit" and "stay". That's the graduation requirements in 2047. It might as well be with the continued lowering of standards for the minorities.

[ColdNoMore]

Dear Guest: a recent TV video now banned, was a clear example of my intent and reason on posting this thread. That video was an intentional assault on white heterosexual males falsely claiming that by virtue of fact that they were white males that they were racist and otherwise prone to discrimination. This is a very concerted and intentional effort by the left and supported by the misplaced cultural agenda of the Obama Administration and it has helped create this cultural upheaval .

A prime example was the signal Obama sent intentional or otherwise when he met with Professor Gates and signaled clearly that he believed the police officer's conduct was racially motivated.

Again whether intentional or not it was really poor judgment on the part of Obama and on a number of levels. However the point is he signaled to the black community that he was out to get the "man"except Obama neglected to recognize he was "the man"and as such had responsibility to all Americans not just blacks

And the left fails to see or ignores that their attacks on white heterosexual males is discrimination in itself and that is a symptom created by circular thinking

If the left supports and continues to push this false narrative that to be white is to be a racist then the racial divide will never close and that was my point and my intention was to have civil discourse along those lines to come to a meeting of minds of sorts[/B]

But too many posters are reactionary. They can't or won't discuss, to ask why , perhaps they don't know how. Perhaps they recognize the truth of their untenable position on these matters

However what is clear to me is that Obama's push for cultural upheaval created a cultural divide that has the potential for anarchy

We all be the wiser to stop the rhetoric and come together united in solving these cultural differences.

Personal Best Regards:

Pure baloney...coming from a closet racist.

Obama did not 'create' this racial divide, the fact that he took opportunities to point it out instead of being a good little black boy and just keeping his mouth shut...is what pizzed so many like you off.

And once again, you're lying and painting with a broad brush, when you say....

If the left supports and continues to push this false narrative that to be white is to be a racist then the racial divide will never close and that was my point and my intention was to have civil discourse along those lines to come to a meeting of minds of sorts

There are plenty of white people who are not bigoted and/or racist.

We are the ones however, that recognize that the playing field is NOT level and don't whine and cry when the obvious is pointed out.

So many of your ilk's problems with Obama, IS the fact that he's black (per your 'one drop rule') and he's not afraid of pointing out the injustices that occur...whether just from ignorance or from malicious racism.

The divide will never close, until those like you ask yourself if you wished you had been born black and then listen honestly...to your reasons why you are glad you're not black. :wave:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUlqTNwm-mk

[Don Baldwin]

As a white man, I sincerely feel sorry for those of you who are white male or female, and for some reason, feel intimidated or "put upon" because of your skin color.

I can honestly say I felt absolutely no different about my skin color under the Obama administration, not intimidated, not uncomfortable, no more than G Bush presidency made me feel less Texan.

I felt just as Christian, just as white as ever.

Nor, did I ever meet anyone who felt intimidated or any different about their skin color because Obama was President.

The media felt obliged to force more race questions that in the past, and pay more attention to anyone not white who was appointed or worked with the President.

So whatever slight felt by white people is unfortunate. Actually, my disagreements with President Obama were on policy and I never thought about his skin color when disagreeing.

In my world, the Presidents race had no affect whatsoever.

In my world, the Presidents policies did have an effect.

Easy to say when you live and play in the white paradise.

"Your world" isn't the real world where racial preferences and quotas DO make white feel discriminated upon. You don't "fix" discrimination by discriminating. You "fix" it by going to merit based positioning...you EARN your spot. The trouble is...when you do it that way...it becomes 99% white males. So...they "fix" that with quotas of people who weren't the best...and the nation goes from #1 to #25 and becomes poorer and poorer.

The media is FULL of black "people". Their "normalcy" is pushed on us all day, every day. The trouble is...that "normal black family" doesn't exist. At least for the other 99%. It's like going to some trailer trash trailer park and thinking that ALL white people live like that. No, only 1% do. Same with "smart blacks", that's the 1%, the other 99% live like the trailer trash whites.

I'm tired of the lies and I KNOW it's why the young people believe what they do. They think most blacks are "normal", like them, and what they see every day, the violence, the thievery, of blacks, in their school or town, is the outlier.

[Don Baldwin]

Pure baloney...coming from a closet racist.

Obama did not 'create' this racial divide, the fact that he took opportunities to point it out instead of being a good little black boy and just keeping his mouth shut...is what pizzed so many like you off.

And once again, you're lying and painting with a broad brush, when you say....



There are plenty of white people who are not bigoted and/or racist.

We are the ones however, that recognize that the playing field is NOT level and don't whine and cry when the obvious is pointed out.

So many of your ilk's problems with Obama, IS the fact that he's black (per your 'one drop rule') and he's not afraid of pointing out the injustices that occur...whether just from ignorance or from malicious racism.

The divide will never close, until those like you ask yourself if you wished you had been born black and then listen honestly...to your reasons why you are glad you're not black. :wave:



Those whom are fooled aren't racist...those whom aren't fooled...are.

The playing field ISN'T level...there are standards. Unfortunately, women and minorities CAN'T meet those standards so the standards...the "playing field" MUST be "leveled" just for them. You DO whine and cry and you DO get the standards lowered. So much so that we've dropped from #1 to #25 in education. The bar's gotta be pretty low so the blacks/hispanics can "qualify". Down to #25 compared to ALL WHITE places. WHY are the "white" countries ALWAYS so much better than the "black" countries?

The ONLY "injustice" is...we don't want them around. BECAUSE as a "people", they are stupid and violent...they are DANGEROUS. FBI crime stats PROVE it. They destroy schools, neighborhoods, towns, cities, and countries. ALWAYS. They NEVER improve anywhere they go.

I'm glad I'm not black just like I'm glad I wasn't born a cockroach, or a mosquito. Yes, luckily, I was born a white human and not something else. What's your point? I should wish I wasn't born a white human?

The ONLY solution is to put the blacks back into Central and South Africa, create a "preserve" for them. We don't go in, they don't come out. Lincoln said...we'd never get along as equals. Because we're NOT equals. You know it too...why else would you say...we're glad we weren't born black. I could have been born a dog or a cat too...I was born a white human...and I was LUCKY to have been born what I was. WHY do people like you want to PUNISH us for our fortune? Take away what we earned and give it to someone less fortunate.

We're NOT the same. We're not the same species. THAT is why there is such a HUGE divide between the races. We don't "belong" living together any more than dogs and cats "belong" living together.

Do we have quotas for a certain amount of "retarded" people? Then why for another species? Intellectually, they don't qualify either.

[autumnspring]

I'm not really "disappointed," I'm actually feeling more vindicated than anything, since it's been pointed out numerous times that the user has shown to have very few original thoughts of his own...so he's reduced to plagiarizing without citing sources. :oops:

Plagiarism or not though, the positive thing is that the closet racists here are at least slowly oozing out of the woodwork...and publicly exposing themselves. :thumbup:


There is little that is TRULY original thought. Frankly, while ridiculous, MY POST uses the AMERICAN language. If, I had to write my own language to have an ORIGINAL THOUGHT, no one could read it.

RE: THE LIBERALS
You are BLINDED by your thought being controlled by POLITICALLY CORRECT. Frankly, I too am haunted by my previous LIFE EXPERIENCE.

A simple TRICK to suspend your PREJUDICE is to reverse rolls. As a LIBERAL you in unison SCREAM BLACK LIVES MATTER. YOU REFUSE TO CALL THIS WHAT IT IS-RACIST.
Were the people to SCREAM WHITE LIVES MATTER-or to simply whisper it, you would see it clearly for what it is-RACIST.

The same is true of your SOCIALIST VIEWS. The major communist countries of the world CHINA AND RUSSIA are moving toward CAPITALISM and their economies are advancing-TO THE SOCIAL BENEFIT OF THEIR POPULATION.
WE ARE MOVING TOWARD SOCIALISM. WE JUST GOT RID OF A SOCIALIST PRESIDENT. THE VOTERS REJECTED HILLARY WHO IS ACTUALLY LEFT OF OBAMA. DO TELL MICHELLE THAT I AM ONCE AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. CALL ME RACIST, CALL ME DEPLORABLE-I TRULY DO NOT GIVE A ST.

If, your LIBERAL FUR IS ALL RUFFLED-look at east vs west Germany. MR. TRUMP=PUT UP THAT WALL..

[rubicon]

As a white man, I sincerely feel sorry for those of you who are white male or female, and for some reason, feel intimidated or "put upon" because of your skin color.

I can honestly say I felt absolutely no different about my skin color under the Obama administration, not intimidated, not uncomfortable, no more than G Bush presidency made me feel less Texan.

I felt just as Christian, just as white as ever.

Nor, did I ever meet anyone who felt intimidated or any different about their skin color because Obama was President.

The media felt obliged to force more race questions that in the past, and pay more attention to anyone not white who was appointed or worked with the President.

So whatever slight felt by white people is unfortunate. Actually, my disagreements with President Obama were on policy and I never thought about his skin color when disagreeing.

In my world, the Presidents race had no affect whatsoever.

In my world, the Presidents policies did have an effect.

Dear Guest:

I agree with your thought process to a point. I am proud to be a white heterosexual male who has followed the rule of law, provided help when needed people of all colors and gender and otherwise have been a respectful human being.

If however the reference is the degree of intimidation one might experience, well then that simply is not going to happen to me and I believe most white males. What you will get is calm thoughtful and productive action

The central issue here, however, is that the progressives, which is pretty much comprised of elitist whites, minority and women believed they had within their grasp control of this nation. They rightly believed Obama would provide and support this movement, and he did in every way imaginable . And that Obama was going to hand that same baton to Hillary. However something happened on the way to the forum and that has jolted progressives into a reality that they can't get their minds around.

Bill O'Reilly made that pitch explaining that this was the root cause for progressives to want to eliminate the Electoral College. While Hillary won 2.--million more votes then Trump it was comprised primarily from voters in California and New York. Trump actually got some 3 million more votes than Hillary when you set aside this heavily concentrated section of the country. Essentially if the nation went by popular vote the election would have been decided primarily by minorities in California and New York and even the most obtuse individual should recognize that the majority was being ignored and that such an outcome is what the founders feared.

Make no mistake about it this anti-white campaign by the left to denigrate white males will continue and it will eventually include white females and then all heterosexuals .

Once again its why I started the thread and why I said it has to stop because if it doesn't this racial divide will get much worse.

The first problem to overcome is to convince progressives to cease yelling racist when the issue of race is raised. Until then we can never have an intelligent and logical conversation on this subject,

Personal Best Regards:

[janmcn]

There is little that is TRULY original thought. Frankly, while ridiculous, MY POST uses the AMERICAN language. If, I had to write my own language to have an ORIGINAL THOUGHT, no one could read it.

RE: THE LIBERALS
You are BLINDED by your thought being controlled by POLITICALLY CORRECT. Frankly, I too am haunted by my previous LIFE EXPERIENCE.

A simple TRICK to suspend your PREJUDICE is to reverse rolls. As a LIBERAL you in unison SCREAM BLACK LIVES MATTER. YOU REFUSE TO CALL THIS WHAT IT IS-RACIST.
Were the people to SCREAM WHITE LIVES MATTER-or to simply whisper it, you would see it clearly for what it is-RACIST.

The same is true of your SOCIALIST VIEWS. The major communist countries of the world CHINA AND RUSSIA are moving toward CAPITALISM and their economies are advancing-TO THE SOCIAL BENEFIT OF THEIR POPULATION.
WE ARE MOVING TOWARD SOCIALISM. WE JUST GOT RID OF A SOCIALIST PRESIDENT. THE VOTERS REJECTED HILLARY WHO IS ACTUALLY LEFT OF OBAMA. DO TELL MICHELLE THAT I AM ONCE AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. CALL ME RACIST, CALL ME DEPLORABLE-I TRULY DO NOT GIVE A ST.

If, your LIBERAL FUR IS ALL RUFFLED-look at east vs west Germany. MR. TRUMP=PUT UP THAT WALL..



This post is so hysterical written by a person who loves her single-payer socialized medicine, commonly known as Medicare, and her social security checks.

[Rockyrd]

Dear Guest:

I agree with your thought process to a point. I am proud to be a white heterosexual male who has followed the rule of law, provided help when needed people of all colors and gender and otherwise have been a respectful human being.

If however the reference is the degree of intimidation one might experience, well then that simply is not going to happen to me and I believe most white males. What you will get is calm thoughtful and productive action

The central issue here, however, is that the progressives, which is pretty much comprised of elitist whites, minority and women believed they had within their grasp control of this nation. They rightly believed Obama would provide and support this movement, and he did in every way imaginable . And that Obama was going to hand that same baton to Hillary. However something happened on the way to the forum and that has jolted progressives into a reality that they can't get their minds around.

Bill O'Reilly made that pitch explaining that this was the root cause for progressives to want to eliminate the Electoral College. While Hillary won 2.--million more votes then Trump it was comprised primarily from voters in California and New York. Trump actually got some 3 million more votes than Hillary when you set aside this heavily concentrated section of the country. Essentially if the nation went by popular vote the election would have been decided primarily by minorities in California and New York and even the most obtuse individual should recognize that the majority was being ignored and that such an outcome is what the founders feared.

Make no mistake about it this anti-white campaign by the left to denigrate white males will continue and it will eventually include white females and then all heterosexuals .

Once again its why I started the thread and why I said it has to stop because if it doesn't this racial divide will get much worse.

The first problem to overcome is to convince progressives to cease yelling racist when the issue of race is raised. Until then we can never have an intelligent and logical conversation on this subject,

Personal Best Regards:

First of all, you present your thoughts as if they were facts, when they are really simply your opinion and nothing more. This entire thesis of yours....

"s that the progressives, which is pretty much comprised of elitist whites, minority and women believed they had within their grasp control of this nation. They rightly believed Obama would provide and support this movement, and he did in every way imaginable . And that Obama was going to hand that same baton to Hillary. However something happened on the way to the forum and that has jolted progressives into a reality that they can't get their minds around.

I reject as false and simply what you preach, BUT that does not make it fact. You are so generalizing all of this subject. You speak of an anti white movement, not anything else as if any thought process was contained in such a movement. I cannot recall since the 60's any movement by those you denigrate that was not based in a factual event that they felt was a personal affront. I have never seen any of the current movements about police, etc speak to whites in general, and CERTAINLY not in anyway as is spoken on this forum relative to anti blacks.

So since we start with a completely different viewpoint and your facts are not my facts, or as I submit, NOBODYS facts we are stymied with the old position of ........depends on what side you are on, but I am not going to try even to change your "facts"...they are not but you will not change your thoughts. I have opposed most of the Obama administration, especially the foreign policy, BUT to say that Obama pursued a racial agenda or anything close, to me,. is ludicrious

You continually point out progressives for their "yelling racist when the issue of race is raised." I can make a strong case using your own words. At the top of the list you "did not plagerize" to start the thread was "Today if I am born white it automatically makes me a racist." as if that were a fact. See that is how you feel for some reason. I have never felt that way in my life, neighbors even of blacks mistreated who have been on the streets demonstrating do not feel that way, but I submit that you feel that way, to you that is a fact. It is NOT

You lay ALL the blame and even suggest that the first step is up to progressives. i submit this is not an issue to be laid at the feet of any ONE SINGLE unit of people and identyfying one unit makes the situation worse not better.

YES.....progressives, liberals, Democrats have used the black population for years. Trust me, THAT is the reason I left the democratic party, but today ....the right, Republicans, conservatives bow down to groups as well (NRA is just one)

You want to blame progressives and absolve conservatives, then you cannot be a party to the solution, because your mind is made up. On here, one thing that a poster really hates is quotas. i do also, but see the reason for them...hell, I was there watching the reason happening. What happened in the past 50 years or so since them.....BOTH liberals and conservatives identified blacks as a voting block and not a group of americans who need fair opportunity.

Simple I know, but I am not that smart and that is how I see it. There is NO political solution and looking for one is a futile task and simply makes it worse. I am not wise enough to know the answer...it has to come from all of our hearts. You blame a political movement....that political movement blames the opposite (and frankly, with good reason....see birther, etc)

[autumnspring]

Amazing. We have two reasonable longtime posters taking points from a plagerized site without even reading it. They seem to agree with the site that you are either on one fringe or the other. Folks, there is a middle ground.

Then, to make it worse, these two fine longtime posters are aligning themselves with the fringe right like Don Baldwin and MDLNB.

Being a centrist is not being wishy washy. It is seeing some of both sides. You both have some social welfare ideas that are good. You both have some conservative ideas that are good.

Don't let the fringe theories of some sway you into being fringe thinkers. Remember the fringe followers is what got Hitler appointed as chancellor of Germany in 1933.

First of all I am JEWISH. Secondly in high school one of my friends parents were both Holocaust survivors tattoo numbers included, I regret that I never asked them to tell me about it and the subject never came up or perhaps they ducked the subject.

It do recall, my friends father telling about going to a Hitler speech and being caught up in the mass pro-Hitler HYSTERIA. Hitler like OBAMA was a great speaker-he could hypnotize a large group all at once. As my friends father told the story, it was not until he was almost home that he realized that Hitler was talking about hating Jews and he was jewish.

Hitler was appointed out of desperation and hate. I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTER. Hillary tried to harness BLACK RACISM as OBAMA DID BEFORE HER and SUCCESS ENVY again as OBAMA DID BEFORE HER. Hillary tried to ACCUSE Trump of a lack of respect for women. HOW THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS DID NOT NOTICE THAT THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION HAS WOMEN IN TOP LEADERSHIP POSITIONS-
AND HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER WAS A WOMAN.

The American people have elected TRUMP. He has not even taken office and the LIBERALS are already accusing him of things he has not even done. While giving the CLINTON MOB a pass on CRIMES for which if you/we had done we would be in jail-AND WE WOULD DESERVE TO BE IN JAIL.

PUT DOWN YOUR COLORING BOOKS AND YOUR PLAYDOUGH
AND SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUPS.

[Fraugoofy]

You, and at times others have me at a disadvantage. Somehow you have my ID but all I ever see is "guest".

Curmudgeon? Disappoints? Says what self appointed authoritarian? You forgot to state as measured by what. Opposing commentary? Stating what one believes/opines? Does not fall in line with what another THINKS or tauts as correct or superior or non-curmudgeon!!

I would emphasize to the administrators that if some can see the identities then we should all be able to see the identities......or not.

My positions do not change per the identity shown or not.
I would like to have the ability to differentiate and/or categorize as others are able.
Hey billie. All you have to do is download the app called Tapatalk and you can see everyone's name on the political forum. The admins can't figure out how to fix it. I don't have Tapatalk for that purpose. I simply have it because I don't own a computer and a smart phone works best with apps. Totv doesn't come in app form therefore... Peace out!

Sent from my SM-N910R4 using Tapatalk

[Don Baldwin]

Dear Guest:

I agree with your thought process to a point. I am proud to be a white heterosexual male who has followed the rule of law, provided help when needed people of all colors and gender and otherwise have been a respectful human being.

If however the reference is the degree of intimidation one might experience, well then that simply is not going to happen to me and I believe most white males. What you will get is calm thoughtful and productive action

The central issue here, however, is that the progressives, which is pretty much comprised of elitist whites, minority and women believed they had within their grasp control of this nation. They rightly believed Obama would provide and support this movement, and he did in every way imaginable . And that Obama was going to hand that same baton to Hillary. However something happened on the way to the forum and that has jolted progressives into a reality that they can't get their minds around.

Bill O'Reilly made that pitch explaining that this was the root cause for progressives to want to eliminate the Electoral College. While Hillary won 2.--million more votes then Trump it was comprised primarily from voters in California and New York. Trump actually got some 3 million more votes than Hillary when you set aside this heavily concentrated section of the country. Essentially if the nation went by popular vote the election would have been decided primarily by minorities in California and New York and even the most obtuse individual should recognize that the majority was being ignored and that such an outcome is what the founders feared.

Make no mistake about it this anti-white campaign by the left to denigrate white males will continue and it will eventually include white females and then all heterosexuals .

Once again its why I started the thread and why I said it has to stop because if it doesn't this racial divide will get much worse.

The first problem to overcome is to convince progressives to cease yelling racist when the issue of race is raised. Until then we can never have an intelligent and logical conversation on this subject,

Personal Best Regards:

Whenever we try to have an intelligent and logical discussion they HAVE to scream racism...because it's ALL they've got. Yes, a merit based system IS racist, because they can never make the cut.

[rubicon]

First of all, you present your thoughts as if they were facts, when they are really simply your opinion and nothing more. This entire thesis of yours....

"s that the progressives, which is pretty much comprised of elitist whites, minority and women believed they had within their grasp control of this nation. They rightly believed Obama would provide and support this movement, and he did in every way imaginable . And that Obama was going to hand that same baton to Hillary. However something happened on the way to the forum and that has jolted progressives into a reality that they can't get their minds around.

I reject as false and simply what you preach, BUT that does not make it fact. You are so generalizing all of this subject. You speak of an anti white movement, not anything else as if any thought process was contained in such a movement. I cannot recall since the 60's any movement by those you denigrate that was not based in a factual event that they felt was a personal affront. I have never seen any of the current movements about police, etc speak to whites in general, and CERTAINLY not in anyway as is spoken on this forum relative to anti blacks.

So since we start with a completely different viewpoint and your facts are not my facts, or as I submit, NOBODYS facts we are stymied with the old position of ........depends on what side you are on, but I am not going to try even to change your "facts"...they are not but you will not change your thoughts. I have opposed most of the Obama administration, especially the foreign policy, BUT to say that Obama pursued a racial agenda or anything close, to me,. is ludicrious

You continually point out progressives for their "yelling racist when the issue of race is raised." I can make a strong case using your own words. At the top of the list you "did not plagerize" to start the thread was "Today if I am born white it automatically makes me a racist." as if that were a fact. See that is how you feel for some reason. I have never felt that way in my life, neighbors even of blacks mistreated who have been on the streets demonstrating do not feel that way, but I submit that you feel that way, to you that is a fact. It is NOT

You lay ALL the blame and even suggest that the first step is up to progressives. i submit this is not an issue to be laid at the feet of any ONE SINGLE unit of people and identyfying one unit makes the situation worse not better.

YES.....progressives, liberals, Democrats have used the black population for years. Trust me, THAT is the reason I left the democratic party, but today ....the right, Republicans, conservatives bow down to groups as well (NRA is just one)

You want to blame progressives and absolve conservatives, then you cannot be a party to the solution, because your mind is made up. On here, one thing that a poster really hates is quotas. i do also, but see the reason for them...hell, I was there watching the reason happening. What happened in the past 50 years or so since them.....BOTH liberals and conservatives identified blacks as a voting block and not a group of americans who need fair opportunity.

Simple I know, but I am not that smart and that is how I see it. There is NO political solution and looking for one is a futile task and simply makes it worse. I am not wise enough to know the answer...it has to come from all of our hearts. You blame a political movement....that political movement blames the opposite (and frankly, with good reason....see birther, etc)

Dear Guest:

Okey dokey

Personal Best regards:

[rubicon]

First of all I am JEWISH. Secondly in high school one of my friends parents were both Holocaust survivors tattoo numbers included, I regret that I never asked them to tell me about it and the subject never came up or perhaps they ducked the subject.

It do recall, my friends father telling about going to a Hitler speech and being caught up in the mass pro-Hitler HYSTERIA. Hitler like OBAMA was a great speaker-he could hypnotize a large group all at once. As my friends father told the story, it was not until he was almost home that he realized that Hitler was talking about hating Jews and he was jewish.

Hitler was appointed out of desperation and hate. I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTER. Hillary tried to harness BLACK RACISM as OBAMA DID BEFORE HER and SUCCESS ENVY again as OBAMA DID BEFORE HER. Hillary tried to ACCUSE Trump of a lack of respect for women. HOW THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS DID NOT NOTICE THAT THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION HAS WOMEN IN TOP LEADERSHIP POSITIONS-
AND HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER WAS A WOMAN.

The American people have elected TRUMP. He has not even taken office and the LIBERALS are already accusing him of things he has not even done. While giving the CLINTON MOB a pass on CRIMES for which if you/we had done we would be in jail-AND WE WOULD DESERVE TO BE IN JAIL.

PUT DOWN YOUR COLORING BOOKS AND YOUR PLAYDOUGH
AND SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUPS.

Dear Guest:

I am taken with your family story. This is the danger facing this nation today. This cultural divide widens and its being directed by people who have their sights set on a world order. These same people have to create confusion and chaos . they have kill nationalism. that is one reason they like open borders and allow people into a nation who have no intention of assimilation. Soros talks about it, Obama talks about Hillary talks about it. [I]t is labeled globalism

This thread is just a tiny reference of this bigger picture but you and I will get nowhere with our pleas because a serious person would ask why All you get from a number of posters on these pages are rants, ridicule denials essentially useless chatter

Personal Best Regards:

[Abby10]

Dear Guest:

I am taken with your family story. This is the danger facing this nation today. This cultural divide widens and its being directed by people who have their sights set on a world order. These same people have to create confusion and chaos . they have kill nationalism. that is one reason they like open borders and allow people into a nation who have no intention of assimilation. Soros talks about it, Obama talks about Hillary talks about it. [I]t is labeled globalism

This thread is just a tiny reference of this bigger picture but you and I will get nowhere with our pleas because a serious person would ask why All you get from a number of posters on these pages are rants, ridicule denials essentially useless chatter

Personal Best Regards:

I agree with your post from beginning to end. Too many people either content in keeping their heads in the sand, or distracting themselves with nonsense and as a result unable to see the forest for the trees. Thanks to you and the poster you reference for your thoughtful posts on this forum.

[ColdNoMore]

First of all, you present your thoughts as if they were facts, when they are really simply your opinion and nothing more.

Other than adding his plagiarism and use of fake news with no citations/links...you've summed up Rubithecon perfectly. :thumbup:

[Buffalo Jim]

Angry White men managed to save the World not just once but twice . And how do they get paid back ------by those generations they saved pay them back by attacking them and calling them deplorables who are irredeemable .

[Don Baldwin]

Angry White men managed to save the World not just once but twice . And how do they get paid back ------by those generations they saved pay them back by attacking them and calling them deplorables who are irredeemable .

White men created "Western Civilization". And now the minorities and women are trying their best to destroy it. You're destroying what ALLOWED you to protest. You'll be replacing it with the 3rd world.

[rubicon]

White men created "Western Civilization". And now the minorities and women are trying their best to destroy it. You're destroying what ALLOWED you to protest. You'll be replacing it with the 3rd world.

Dear Guest:

The history of mankind would be too complicated and hence impossible to discuss on these pages but you are right as history recorded it. However the left continues in their pursuit to re-write or distort history. The news for the last 4-5 years is replete with stories of colleges and universities where the classics are no longer taught because they have been viewed as written by angry white men. In turn the colleges and universities teach cultural diversity which begs the question then why doesn't it have a balanced approach to white history.

Too many on the left ignore the imperfection of the human race and never acknowledge that despite those imperfection humans manage to correct such wrongs.

Which also begs the question since all humans are imperfect and have the potential for wrong why would the left push for secularism? It would seem that solely because of these imperfection the need for God would be apparent rather than being ruled by man.

The congregation in Charleston. SC that experienced the death of some nine members of their church because of color is a prime example. These people of God reacted in the most civilized of manner, forgiving the man who killed their friends and offering prayers. What a display of courage, understanding and maturity. What a lesson for the rest of us.

The national conversation should be on why we are more alike and the need and benefit of unity.

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

Dear Guest:

The history of mankind would be too complicated and hence impossible to discuss on these pages but you are right as history recorded it. However the left continues in their pursuit to re-write or distort history. The news for the last 4-5 years is replete with stories of colleges and universities where the classics are no longer taught because they have been viewed as written by angry white men. In turn the colleges and universities teach cultural diversity which begs the question then why doesn't it have a balanced approach to white history.

Too many on the left ignore the imperfection of the human race and never acknowledge that despite those imperfection humans manage to correct such wrongs.

Which also begs the question since all humans are imperfect and have the potential for wrong why would the left push for secularism? It would seem that solely because of these imperfection the need for God would be apparent rather than being ruled by man.

The congregation in Charleston. SC that experienced the death of some nine members of their church because of color is a prime example. These people of God reacted in the most civilized of manner, forgiving the man who killed their friends and offering prayers. What a display of courage, understanding and maturity. What a lesson for the rest of us.

The national conversation should be on why we are more alike and the need and benefit of unity.

Personal Best Regards:

I'm so tired of this being brought up as an "example" of how forgiving black people are. IF it even happened as we're being told it did.

This is a "one-off" event. For the most part, blacks are the racists. They HATE white people. They blame white people. You're looking at the 1% and extrapolating it to ALL blacks. 99% of blacks would rather have you dead. Most blacks live in inner city squalor and violence. ALL of their OWN doing. Those neighborhoods didn't look like that when they moved in! White people didn't trash them. Blacks did...as they ALWAYS do. I can find a WHOLE LOT of white people who treat blacks VERY well...so it's more than even...ok? Stop bringing this up as a common occurrence when it isn't.

The national conversation NEEDS to be...what do we do with another species that we can't assimilate? We've tried, we really have, we even let the nation slide from #1 to #25 doing it...but it didn't work...anywhere. Nowhere on the planet have blacks been a success. It's time to quit throwing good time/money after bad. We need to face the fact that they're not like us.

Racial HONESTY needs to be the national conversation. We are NOT alike physically AND mentally. Why would you think they're just like us inside when they're so different outside? We're not the same species.

[rubicon]

I have another thought and these days when I have one I best write it down before I forget "ah what was I saying":D

How many of you recall the Disney Production of : Song of the South" , a story related by Uncle Remus to a group of children of the adventures of Brér Rabbit and his enemies Brér Fox and Brér Bear?

I had watch that movie as a kid and wondered why with all the Disney Production revivals being brought back to the movies and television, why not my favorite Song of the South. Well the answer came with a news article explaining that the left viewed the depiction of "Uncle Remus" as racially offense and that ended any chance of it be revived.

I viewed that character as a loving old uncle. Uncle Remus crossed racial lines brought us all together. It made me mad that hateful people had destroyed something good and memorial

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

I have another thought and these days when I have one I best write it down before I forget "ah what was I saying":D

How many of you recall the Disney Production of : Song of the South" , a story related by Uncle Remus to a group of children of the adventures of Brér Rabbit and his enemies Brér Fox and Brér Bear?

I had watch that movie as a kid and wondered why with all the Disney Production revivals being brought back to the movies and television, why not my favorite Song of the South. Well the answer came with a news article explaining that the left viewed the depiction of "Uncle Remus" as racially offense and that ended any chance of it be revived.

I viewed that character as a loving old uncle. Uncle Remus crossed racial lines brought us all together. It made me mad that hateful people had destroyed something good and memorial

Personal Best Regards:

More Hollywood fakery. It wasn't like that. There weren't all these "wise old "Uncles"" that taught the kids and gave them wise saying to live by. It was an idealized version, the beginning of the propaganda that we're all "equal". MOST slaves were nothing more than ignorant "farm implements". There was no interaction...no more than you would with an ox or a horse. What would there be to talk about? Most were not understandable anyway with their own version of english. They're genetically still cave men...50,000 years of evolution behind. They had no written language, no wheel, no domestication of team animals. THAT is why they fail everywhere...genetics...they're not us.

[rubicon]

More Hollywood fakery. It wasn't like that. There weren't all these "wise old "Uncles"" that taught the kids and gave them wise saying to live by. It was an idealized version, the beginning of the propaganda that we're all "equal". MOST slaves were nothing more than ignorant "farm implements". There was no interaction...no more than you would with an ox or a horse. What would there be to talk about? Most were not understandable anyway with their own version of english. They're genetically still cave men...50,000 years of evolution behind. They had no written language, no wheel, no domestication of team animals. THAT is why they fail everywhere...genetics...they're not us.

Dear Guest:

I am far removed from being a bleeding heart liberal but I had met a lot of people who had similar points of view, as yours, when I lived and worked in Memphis, TN and worked there to North Mississippi and the state of Arkansas. Simply stated if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. Rev King was correct when he said a person should be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. To deny this reality is to deny reality.

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

Dear Guest:

I am far removed from being a bleeding heart liberal but I had met a lot of people who had similar points of view, as yours, when I lived and worked in Memphis, TN and worked there to North Mississippi and the state of Arkansas. Simply stated if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. Rev King was correct when he said a person should be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. To deny this reality is to deny reality.

Personal Best Regards:

But that is what I do...the black skin is just a covering of a black inside. It IS what is inside that I judge.

THEY destroy ANY school they become a majority...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the school, they did. Before blacks show up, you don't need armed security and metal detectors.

They destroy ANY neighborhood they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the neighborhood...they did. The neighborhood wasn't dirty and run down before the blacks took over. They don't have jobs, yet the place is dirty and non-maintained...why?

They destroy ANY town.city they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the town/city...they did. Name me ONE "black villages"...just one. A gated black community? Never heard of one...lots of "white" ones though.

They destroy ANY country they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the country...they did. Haiti, Jamaica, S Africa...all former jewels when white run...now sh!tholes. What happened? Blacks took over. They run EVERYTHING into the ground. They use and abuse. They're INCAPABLE of developing a successful civilization...they can't even get along in a household...80% of blacks are unmarried?

Where do their ACTIONS ever improve something? What gets better when blacks converge and take over by action? Nothing.

WHAT do they make better with their presence? Nothing.

Their SKIN doesn't cause these problems...their ACTIONS do. Their "covering", the black skin, the nappy hair, the odor, their looks...just lets you identify them...from a distance...so they can be avoided.

I don't see why you don't see that skin color is meaningless. It's what's INSIDE that black skin. If they acted the same and had red skin, they'd be treated the same. And behold...they are!

Tell me...what "actions" are they doing where I shouldn't be judging them? I would judge anyone with any color skin if they acted like they do. Always poor, always needy, always violent...

[Sandtrap328]

But that is what I do...the black skin is just a covering of a black inside. It IS what is inside that I judge.

THEY destroy ANY school they become a majority...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the school, they did. Before blacks show up, you don't need armed security and metal detectors.

They destroy ANY neighborhood they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the neighborhood...they did. The neighborhood wasn't dirty and run down before the blacks took over. They don't have jobs, yet the place is dirty and non-maintained...why?

They destroy ANY town.city they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the town/city...they did. Name me ONE "black villages"...just one. A gated black community? Never heard of one...lots of "white" ones though.

They destroy ANY country they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the country...they did. Haiti, Jamaica, S Africa...all former jewels when white run...now sh!tholes. What happened? Blacks took over. They run EVERYTHING into the ground. They use and abuse. They're INCAPABLE of developing a successful civilization...they can't even get along in a household...80% of blacks are unmarried?

Where do their ACTIONS ever improve something? What gets better when blacks converge and take over by action? Nothing.

WHAT do they make better with their presence? Nothing.

Their SKIN doesn't cause these problems...their ACTIONS do. Their "covering", the black skin, the nappy hair, the odor, their looks...just lets you identify them...from a distance...so they can be avoided.

I don't see why you don't see that skin color is meaningless. It's what's INSIDE that black skin. If they acted the same and had red skin, they'd be treated the same. And behold...they are!

Tell me...what "actions" are they doing where I shouldn't be judging them? I would judge anyone with any color skin if they acted like they do. Always poor, always needy, always violent...

Happy Kwanzaa to you, Deplorable Don Baldwin. Wish I could give you a great big wet kiss right now - before my cold sore disappears.

[Taltarzac725]

Dear Guest:

I am far removed from being a bleeding heart liberal but I had met a lot of people who had similar points of view, as yours, when I lived and worked in Memphis, TN and worked there to North Mississippi and the state of Arkansas. Simply stated if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. Rev King was correct when he said a person should be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. To deny this reality is to deny reality.

Personal Best Regards:

Nicely put.

The timber of humanity is crooked. So much so that almost anything man builds has various flaws unless there are all kinds of checks-and-balances. With the slave trade of hundreds of years there was so much money and labor invested in it that they continued to dehumanize blacks even after the Civil War and other massive struggles allowed them to do so. There seemed to be few checks-and-balances stopped man's darker impulses.

And there were many people in minorities that fought honorably in WWII and WWI and that even includes many Jews, Native Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, etc.

Taltarzac.

[Don Baldwin]

Happy Kwanzaa to you, Deplorable Don Baldwin. Wish I could give you a great big wet kiss right now - before my cold sore disappears.

And there you have the "kindness", the "empathy" of the so called "progressives", the liberals...women. Wishing an incurable disease be thrust upon me.

Yes...liberalism IS a mental disorder, the failure to be able to see reality. The failure to deal with reality. Quotas and safe spaces? That's your goal for the future?

Nicely put.

The timber of humanity is crooked. So much so that almost anything man builds has various flaws unless there are all kinds of checks-and-balances. With the slave trade of hundreds of years there was so much money and labor invested in it that they continued to dehumanize blacks even after the Civil War and other massive struggles allowed them to do so. There seemed to be few checks-and-balances stopped man's darker impulses.

And there were many people in minorities that fought honorably in WWII and WWI and that even includes many Jews, Native Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, etc.

Taltarzac.

Slaves were a cheap commodity... Don't believe the propaganda stories. The coastal blacks were practically giving them away there were so many.

Blacks were used as draft animals. They were seen as a "smart" ox or horse who could also be taught other simple tasks. They were farm implements.

COTTON was where the money was and the REAL reason for the Civil War...the south didn't want to be taxed by the north. Slavery was a political issue they hoped would slow the cotton production depriving the south. Slavery WASN'T abolished in the north by the Eman. Proc. ONLY in the Confederate states seeking cessation. The Civil War wasn't civil, it was about money and getting a cut.

Everybody knew back then that blacks weren't the same as us. Lincoln himself said we'd NEVER be equals. Coastal blacks didn't think the C and S African blacks were equal even to them. They STILL don't think they're equal and genocide occurs there today.

They're not us.

[Sandtrap328]

And there you have the "kindness", the "empathy" of the so called "progressives", the liberals...women. Wishing an incurable disease be thrust upon me.
.

Don Baldwin - you already have the incurable diseases of racism, bigotry, and hatred.

[MDLNB]

I believe in treating everyone equal until they dispel the image of being equal. I believe in being inclusive, not publicly multi-cultured. I believe that if one cannot bring themselves to be assimilated into OUR society, then they are not wishing to be American and should excuse themselves from our nation. I do not believe in PC but I do believe in manners. I believe that if religion offends you then it is YOUR option to ignore it, not ban it. If guns bother you, then you should resist purchasing one, not ban them. If alcohol bothers you, then don't consume it but don't ban it. If smoking bothers you, then don't smoke or don't frequent that establishment but do not ban it. We did have a free country, but it seems that the left does not wish to live with FREEDOM.

I have no problem with "whiteness." The problem seems to exist elsewhere. If that makes me a racist because I am grateful for being white, then label me if you wish. I am through correcting those that feel that they must be superior by labeling a person a racist or a sexist or a homophobe. If more people simply decided to ignore those that label them, then the only disgruntled and unhappy people would be the accusers. Treat everyone as you wish to be treated until they change the scenario. I have been to many countries where I was the minority and got along just fine. Some natives of other countries do not like Americans, and that is their prerogative. When you are in their country, you live by their rules.

To put it simply, if you have a problem with "whiteness" that's a personal problem. I have never been ashamed of my color or gender and have never been gender confused. I am a white male and do not consider myself a racist.

[MDLNB]

Don Baldwin - you already have the incurable diseases of racism, bigotry, and hatred.

And that is his prerogative. There is no law against your opinion or bias. In my case, I usually just avoid those that I feel are radically biased.

[Don Baldwin]

Don Baldwin - you already have the incurable diseases of racism, bigotry, and hatred.

Disease? Knowing the truth is a disease to you? I don't want the inmates running the asylum...THEY have the "disease".

How am I wrong? What did I say that wasn't a true fact? Whom is the one with an incurable disease?

I believe in treating everyone equal until they dispel the image of being equal. I believe in being inclusive, not publicly multi-cultured. I believe that if one cannot bring themselves to be assimilated into OUR society, then they are not wishing to be American and should excuse themselves from our nation. I do not believe in PC but I do believe in manners. I believe that if religion offends you then it is YOUR option to ignore it, not ban it. If guns bother you, then you should resist purchasing one, not ban them. If alcohol bothers you, then don't consume it but don't ban it. If smoking bothers you, then don't smoke or don't frequent that establishment but do not ban it. We did have a free country, but it seems that the left does not wish to live with FREEDOM.

I have no problem with "whiteness." The problem seems to exist elsewhere. If that makes me a racist because I am grateful for being white, then label me if you wish. I am through correcting those that feel that they must be superior by labeling a person a racist or a sexist or a homophobe. If more people simply decided to ignore those that label them, then the only disgruntled and unhappy people would be the accusers. Treat everyone as you wish to be treated until they change the scenario. I have been to many countries where I was the minority and got along just fine. Some natives of other countries do not like Americans, and that is their prerogative. When you are in their country, you live by their rules.

To put it simply, if you have a problem with "whiteness" that's a personal problem. I have never been ashamed of my color or gender and have never been gender confused. I am a white male and do not consider myself a racist.

What about a whole race? An entire species that has PROVEN...over and over...that they're NOT an equal? WHERE are they equals? Without affirmative action and quotas, they wouldn't be represented at all.

Well then...you want the blacks and hispanics to leave...NEITHER has "blended" into our culture.

No...freedom is the LAST thing women and minorities want...they want laws and regulation because they NEED to be taken care of.

And that is his prerogative. There is no law against your opinion or bias. In my case, I usually just avoid those that I feel are radically biased.

"Radical" is in the eye of the beholder...

[autumnspring]

so i'm guessing that you disagree with me...cool. Let's stop there i respect that you have a difference of opinion on this matter. My purpose in posting was not to argue, defend nor to attempt to change anyone's mind but only to share.

I'm done here and onto other opportunities

personal best regards:

you are full of bull-not to argue-or attempt to change any ones mind? Change your mind and be honest with yourself.

[autumnspring]

I do not remember there was this much pontificating about the ineptness, the competency, the threat, the lack of experience, the race radical footings and the wringing of hands by so many when an unknown black man out of the bowels of corruption and mayhem Chicago Illinois.

If Obama was acceptable and supposedly made so many people happy (according to the media and other benefactors) while in the process of taking our country back 50 years in race relations, weakend the military, taking the USA from lead position in the world to also ran in so many categories, allowing Russia and China to catch, pass and thumb their nose at the USA, supporting an open border let anybody in and pay them benefits, never take a country or nation to task for wrong doing for fear of a response.......and so on and on.

If that doesn't scare anybody then there is absolutely nothing to fear from Trump.

Those who fear Trump are those who are benefactors of the above describe sahme of America.....along with those politicians who feel thretaened by Trump's promise to disrupt the status quo. And of course the millions of illegals.....not the good one's....the scourge and criminals and terrorists.......these special interests with the utility of the main stream media amplifier.....should have something to fear.

The rest of us, those who voted for him did so to correct, disrupt and repair the establishment.
And there enough of us to not only get him elected but to wipe the map (pun intended) with Clinton.

NO FEAR for those who want a better America that was criminally not deliverable by the likes of Obama and the Washington crony, establishment (both R & D).

Obama is a SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST with the view of his father that the whites have stolen their wealth from the black race. His view is simply INSANE. First of all the UNITED STATES has not taken any colonies.

Trump is a CAPITALIST with the view that YOU are responsible to provide for yourself and your family. As we see with the PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS-their failures is always someone else's fault AND THE STATE OWES YOU A LIVING. The price of the progressive view is YOUR FREEDOM AND A DETERIORATING STANDARD OF LIVING.
This is a complex issue but to make it truly simple to understand look at east and west GERMANY-look at GREECE.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS. SADLY, I EXPECT WE ARE STILL HANDING OUT COLORING BOOKS AND PLAY-DOUGH AND THE TAXPAYERS ARE BEING CHARGED FOR IT.

[MDLNB]

Obama is a SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST with the view of his father that the whites have stolen their wealth from the black race. His view is simply INSANE. First of all the UNITED STATES has not taken any colonies.

Trump is a CAPITALIST with the view that YOU are responsible to provide for yourself and your family. As we see with the PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS-their failures is always someone else's fault AND THE STATE OWES YOU A LIVING. The price of the progressive view is YOUR FREEDOM AND A DETERIORATING STANDARD OF LIVING.
This is a complex issue but to make it truly simple to understand look at east and west GERMANY-look at GREECE.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS. SADLY, I EXPECT WE ARE STILL HANDING OUT COLORING BOOKS AND PLAY-DOUGH AND THE TAXPAYERS ARE BEING CHARGED FOR IT.

I totally agree with your statement. I can find nothing in what you said to argue about.

[Chi-Town]

And that is his prerogative. There is no law against your opinion or bias. In my case, I usually just avoid those that I feel are radically biased.
Then why are you here?

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[MDLNB]

Then why are you here?

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To encourage more than one liners from Chinnie. :a20:

[rubicon]

But that is what I do...the black skin is just a covering of a black inside. It IS what is inside that I judge.

THEY destroy ANY school they become a majority...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the school, they did. Before blacks show up, you don't need armed security and metal detectors.

They destroy ANY neighborhood they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the neighborhood...they did. The neighborhood wasn't dirty and run down before the blacks took over. They don't have jobs, yet the place is dirty and non-maintained...why?

They destroy ANY town.city they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the town/city...they did. Name me ONE "black villages"...just one. A gated black community? Never heard of one...lots of "white" ones though.

They destroy ANY country they become the majority in...correct? Their SKIN didn't wreck the country...they did. Haiti, Jamaica, S Africa...all former jewels when white run...now sh!tholes. What happened? Blacks took over. They run EVERYTHING into the ground. They use and abuse. They're INCAPABLE of developing a successful civilization...they can't even get along in a household...80% of blacks are unmarried?

Where do their ACTIONS ever improve something? What gets better when blacks converge and take over by action? Nothing.

WHAT do they make better with their presence? Nothing.

Their SKIN doesn't cause these problems...their ACTIONS do. Their "covering", the black skin, the nappy hair, the odor, their looks...just lets you identify them...from a distance...so they can be avoided.

I don't see why you don't see that skin color is meaningless. It's what's INSIDE that black skin. If they acted the same and had red skin, they'd be treated the same. And behold...they are!

Tell me...what "actions" are they doing where I shouldn't be judging them? I would judge anyone with any color skin if they acted like they do. Always poor, always needy, always violent...

Dear Guest:

You open the above-stated post with essentially saying you do not judge what's on the outside but the inside. Isn't that the same thought process of King' s judging by character and not color?

I personally would not have anything to do with an OJ Simpson type but would welcome Thomas Sowell who has demonstrated his intellect, positive drive and influential contribution to our society , and the ability to escape the cultural divide that plagues too many of us.

One can understand your disdain for people who deserve such reactions but you go too far with absolute, and in doing so you lose credibility.

Personal Best Regards:

[ColdNoMore]

Don Baldwin - you already have the incurable diseases of racism, bigotry, and hatred.

:bowdown:

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[Don Baldwin]

Dear Guest:

You open the above-stated post with essentially saying you do not judge what's on the outside but the inside. Isn't that the same thought process of King' s judging by character and not color?

I personally would not have anything to do with an OJ Simpson type but would welcome Thomas Sowell who has demonstrated his intellect, positive drive and influential contribution to our society , and the ability to escape the cultural divide that plagues too many of us.

One can understand your disdain for people who deserve such reactions but you go too far with absolute, and in doing so you lose credibility.

Personal Best Regards:

You and everyone else always talk about the 1%...the 1% of blacks that actually amount to anything...what about the other 99%? The ones on welfare, the violent criminals. The BAGGAGE of the 99% isn't worth keeping the 1%. That's my point. And if you REALLY talked to Sowell, I'm sure you wouldn't be as impressed as with the public persona.

Diversity eventually destroys...every time...that's why I don't want any.

[MDLNB]

You and everyone else always talk about the 1%...the 1% of blacks that actually amount to anything...what about the other 99%? The ones on welfare, the violent criminals. The BAGGAGE of the 99% isn't worth keeping the 1%. That's my point. And if you REALLY talked to Sowell, I'm sure you wouldn't be as impressed as with the public persona.

Diversity eventually destroys...every time...that's why I don't want any.

Hey Don, lifes a bit*h and then you die. I've never met anyone that beats his head against the concrete wall, expecting the wall to change to cheese. You are incredibly single minded and mentally ill. You are not going to get anyone in D.C. to deport the Blacks from America. So, you might as well get on with your life and make do the best you can. Suggestion, lock you doors, bar your window and call Pizza Hut for delivery. Do not leave your home so that you will never have to come across another minority. Also tell Pizza hut to only send White Males to deliver you pizza. I understand that there is a grocery delivery service in the Villages also. You'll be safe as long as you keep your doors locked.

[Sandtrap328]

Hey, Don Baldwin is most likely that 500 fat kid living in the spare bedroom at Grandma's house in The Villages. He dropped out academically from Junior College. He is deranged and demented and naturally has no friends. Don is on the No Fly list but then no airline could accommodate his smelly (m)ass.

Shall we feel pity for this pathetic piece of crap? NO. Just hope that no one has to come into contact with him.

Happy Kwanzaa, Don - you pathetic piece of crap. Hope some of the Brothers stop over to wish you Happy Kwanzaa in person!

[MDLNB]

Hey, Don Baldwin is most likely that 500 fat kid living in the spare bedroom at Grandma's house in The Villages. He dropped out academically from Junior College. He is deranged and demented and naturally has no friends. Don is on the No Fly list but then no airline could accommodate his smelly (m)ass.

Shall we feel pity for this pathetic piece of crap? NO. Just hope that no one has to come into contact with him.

Happy Kwanzaa, Don - you pathetic piece of crap. Hope some of the Brothers stop over to wish you Happy Kwanzaa in person!

Wow Sandy, that was a bit harsh. You don't have to kick him after I knocked him down. That was a bit personal.

[Chi-Town]

Hey, Don Baldwin is most likely that 500 fat kid living in the spare bedroom at Grandma's house in The Villages. He dropped out academically from Junior College. He is deranged and demented and naturally has no friends. Don is on the No Fly list but then no airline could accommodate his smelly (m)ass.

Shall we feel pity for this pathetic piece of crap? NO. Just hope that no one has to come into contact with him.

Happy Kwanzaa, Don - you pathetic piece of crap. Hope some of the Brothers stop over to wish you Happy Kwanzaa in person!

Donny B has a couple of roommates living in that bedroom.

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[Don Baldwin]

Hey Don, lifes a bit*h and then you die. I've never met anyone that beats his head against the concrete wall, expecting the wall to change to cheese. You are incredibly single minded and mentally ill. You are not going to get anyone in D.C. to deport the Blacks from America. So, you might as well get on with your life and make do the best you can. Suggestion, lock you doors, bar your window and call Pizza Hut for delivery. Do not leave your home so that you will never have to come across another minority. Also tell Pizza hut to only send White Males to deliver you pizza. I understand that there is a grocery delivery service in the Villages also. You'll be safe as long as you keep your doors locked.

Or I can live in the villages and forget they exist...oh wait...that's what we're ALL doing here.

You're committing self inflicted racial genocide...willingly!!!

[Buffalo Jim]

Wow Sandy, that was a bit harsh. You don't have to kick him after I knocked him down. That was a bit personal.

I think what the writer was trying to say was " Merry Christmas to one and all " !

[larbud]

Methinks Don don't give a f22k what you think of Him just as I don't...

[janmcn]

Hey, Don Baldwin is most likely that 500 fat kid living in the spare bedroom at Grandma's house in The Villages. He dropped out academically from Junior College. He is deranged and demented and naturally has no friends. Don is on the No Fly list but then no airline could accommodate his smelly (m)ass.

Shall we feel pity for this pathetic piece of crap? NO. Just hope that no one has to come into contact with him.

Happy Kwanzaa, Don - you pathetic piece of crap. Hope some of the Brothers stop over to wish you Happy Kwanzaa in person!


This conjures up quite the images of a 500 pound blimp riding around TV on his golf cart while his white sheet and matching hood billow in the breeze.

[Don Baldwin]

This conjures up quite the images of a 500 pound blimp riding around TV on his golf cart while his white sheet and matching hood billow in the breeze.

That's right Jan...talk about me with the rest of the women...forget about whether I'm right or wrong. It's what you women do...talk about people. THAT is why you're always dismissed when the men start to talk...you have nothing to add. THAT is why there's a glass ceiling. EVERYTHING is emotional to you. Engineering has little emotion in it...mathematics has little emotion in it, science has little emotion in it...it's why you gravitate away from that and towards the "humanities".

Men and women are very different Jan...I'm just the messenger...I didn't make us this way, I just report it.

Got something to say that means something?

[Taltarzac725]

That's right Jan...talk about me with the rest of the women...forget about whether I'm right or wrong. It's what you women do...talk about people. THAT is why you're always dismissed when the men start to talk...you have nothing to add. THAT is why there's a glass ceiling. EVERYTHING is emotional to you. Engineering has little emotion in it...mathematics has little emotion in it, science has little emotion in it...it's why you gravitate away from that and towards the "humanities".

Men and women are very different Jan...I'm just the messenger...I didn't make us this way, I just report it.

Got something to say that means something?

You should meet some female lawyers, doctors and judges. Very little emotional about these people. In fact, the men are often a lot more emotional in many situations than the women.

[dirtbanker]

You should meet some female lawyers, doctors and judges. Very little emotional about these people. In fact, the men are often a lot more emotional in many situations than the women.

Girlie men maybe...are you speaking from personal experience?

[dirtbanker]

That's right Jan...talk about me with the rest of the women...forget about whether I'm right or wrong. It's what you women do...talk about people. THAT is why you're always dismissed when the men start to talk...you have nothing to add. THAT is why there's a glass ceiling. EVERYTHING is emotional to you. Engineering has little emotion in it...mathematics has little emotion in it, science has little emotion in it...it's why you gravitate away from that and towards the "humanities".

Men and women are very different Jan...I'm just the messenger...I didn't make us this way, I just report it.

Got something to say that means something?

Don - When was the last time you got laid? I mean really...possibly you might consider a bit of a filter?

But then again there are probably very few good looking women on this forum to cause you to worry about such things.

I just don't get why one of the intellectually superior women on here will not dispute Don's claims, with some facts? Provide links that dispute his racist / sexist views, show him you are not just some worthless emotional pin cushion, beat him at his own game!

[MDLNB]

Don - When was the last time you got laid? I mean really...possibly you might consider a bit of a filter?

But then again there are probably very few good looking women on this forum to cause you to worry about such things.

I just don't get why one of the intellectually superior women on here will not dispute Don's claims, with some facts? Provide links that dispute his racist / sexist views, show him you are not just some worthless emotional pin cushion, beat him at his own game!

It's not like Don is wrong in his facts. It's just how he presents it with his own brand of bias. He would have more folks agreeing with him based on his facts if he was not so obnoxious and blatantly bigoted in his speech.

I have been overseas a most of my life and have picked up items of interest from some of those exotic places. One such item was a piece of black and brown Obsidian. Showing it to my grandchild, his eyes got big and he asked me what it was. I told him that it was glass, volcanic glass. He thought about it once and then replied that he thought that glass was CLEAR. I told him that glass could be black, brown, yellow and red as well as other colors, but it still made it glass. Coloring is what you see, but the physical qualities may be somewhat different. Obsidian has been used as scalpels, knives and artwork.

[dirtbanker]

It's not like Don is wrong in his facts. It's just how he presents it with his own brand of bias. He would have more folks agreeing with him based on his facts if he was not so obnoxious and blatantly bigoted in his speech.


I get the feeling they are afraid he might be correct and they have been wrong...I would like to see some of the posters that call him names like "racist" and "sexist" to prove him wrong...or stop calling Don those names just because they can't prove him wrong.

[MDLNB]

I get the feeling they are afraid he might be correct and they have been wrong...I would like to see some of the posters that call him names like "racist" and "sexist" to prove him wrong...or stop calling Don those names just because they can't prove him wrong.

NO, he really is racist and sexist. He is just right in his facts. But, he has no filter on his presenting of his opinion along with his facts. I don't disagree with his facts, but I also do find him fanatically biased. I am far from PC myself, but you can tell for sure that he has never subscribed to the values included in the book "how to win friends and influence people."

[MDLNB]

Girlie men maybe...are you speaking from personal experience?

Probably

[rubicon]

Well this is another thread where the wheels have been pulled off the cart. So much for cogent dialogue

Personal Best Regards:

[MDLNB]

Well this is another thread where the wheels have been pulled off the cart. So much for cogent dialogue

Personal Best Regards:

We now have a couple of irredeemable libtards that have multiple logins and are acting as TROLLS, since they have nothing to contribute. They aren't even Villagers.

Petulant losers that can't handle it. No participation awards given out for second place in the election.

[Don Baldwin]

You should meet some female lawyers, doctors and judges. Very little emotional about these people. In fact, the men are often a lot more emotional in many situations than the women.

Which one is the BEST in their field...not a one. There are women firefighters too...but NONE of them are the BEST.

The GAY ones.

Don - When was the last time you got laid? I mean really...possibly you might consider a bit of a filter?

But then again there are probably very few good looking women on this forum to cause you to worry about such things.

I just don't get why one of the intellectually superior women on here will not dispute Don's claims, with some facts? Provide links that dispute his racist / sexist views, show him you are not just some worthless emotional pin cushion, beat him at his own game!

How about just about every day...dirtman. More than one in a day. Not just more than once, different women too. I get offers, women are drawn to me. Because I'm NOT like you. I doubt I'd touch any of the women posting here. Like Trump said..."I wouldn't even TALK to these women, they're not pretty enough for me" when someone had accused him of sexual harassment. The women here got all up in arms about how much of an ******* he was, how vain he was. But you know what? They'd f@c% him in a minute if really given the opportunity. Women are drown to as$hole, alpha men like a moth to a flame. Your wife would screw Elvis in a minute...don't believe she wouldn't. Most women are whores when it comes down to money and power. I'm just the messenger ladies.

They don't dispute it because there's nothing to dispute. The whole sexual equality thing is a farce. Women can't beat men in anything. They're never the top...and if by chance they DO find ONE...that's about all they'll find. A few compared to the millions of things men can beat them at.

I just want honesty and to admit and work WITH the differences...not fight against them. Let women do what women were MADE to do...have and raise kids with a father who provided for them. That's how it's been for millions of years until the "civil rights" of the 60s destroyed the family.

It's not like Don is wrong in his facts. It's just how he presents it with his own brand of bias. He would have more folks agreeing with him based on his facts if he was not so obnoxious and blatantly bigoted in his speech.

I have been overseas a most of my life and have picked up items of interest from some of those exotic places. One such item was a piece of black and brown Obsidian. Showing it to my grandchild, his eyes got big and he asked me what it was. I told him that it was glass, volcanic glass. He thought about it once and then replied that he thought that glass was CLEAR. I told him that glass could be black, brown, yellow and red as well as other colors, but it still made it glass. Coloring is what you see, but the physical qualities may be somewhat different. Obsidian has been used as scalpels, knives and artwork.

I'm me...

Your analogy fails in that blacks and whites are NOT the same inside like your glass is. They're rock...as dumb as rock. If you've REALLY been overseas and been to black countries...you know they're NOT like us. They don't think like us. They don't act like us. They don't live like us. They do very little like us. And they don't LOOK like us. Because they're NOT us...they're stone and not glass.

Glass IS better than stone, it can do delicate work. Stone crushes things like the minorities do wherever they go. They crush the life out of everywhere they group in large numbers/percentages. EVERY time.

I get the feeling they are afraid he might be correct and they have been wrong...I would like to see some of the posters that call him names like "racist" and "sexist" to prove him wrong...or stop calling Don those names just because they can't prove him wrong.

I AM correct. Equality is a lie, a ruse. Name calling is ALL the liberals have because the facts NEVER back them up. They live in a utopian fantasy.

I don't mind the names...sticks and stones and all that...

It's the CONSTANT attempts to get me banned. They just WON'T give up...they message and message the moderators until they relent. They cry and whine like spoiled little girls.

NO, he really is racist and sexist. He is just right in his facts. But, he has no filter on his presenting of his opinion along with his facts. I don't disagree with his facts, but I also do find him fanatically biased. I am far from PC myself, but you can tell for sure that he has never subscribed to the values included in the book "how to win friends and influence people."

I don't care what most people think...because most people are brain dead. They just cruise through life, doing their little thing, believing what they're told by the "authorities". They'll argue and argue about things they know nothing about.

I'm hear to share with you what "I" think. After 60 something years I think I've figured a lot out. It's made me cynical. About most everything. Because after that many years, you HAVE seen it all. You realize how fake and manipulated just about everything is.

It's why I'm here in the bubble...a bastion of Norman Rockwell's "white America". I just don't like minorities. I don't like how they speak, act, live, dress, their music, their unpredictability, violence, propensity to be uneducated and poor. I'd just rather not have them around me. It's my right to free association.

[Taltarzac725]

Which one is the BEST in their field...not a one. There are women firefighters too...but NONE of them are the BEST.

The GAY ones.



How about just about every day...dirtman. More than one in a day. Not just more than once, different women too. I get offers, women are drawn to me. Because I'm NOT like you. I doubt I'd touch any of the women posting here. Like Trump said..."I wouldn't even TALK to these women, they're not pretty enough for me" when someone had accused him of sexual harassment. The women here got all up in arms about how much of an ******* he was, how vain he was. But you know what? They'd f@c% him in a minute if really given the opportunity. Women are drown to as$hole, alpha men like a moth to a flame. Your wife would screw Elvis in a minute...don't believe she wouldn't. Most women are whores when it comes down to money and power. I'm just the messenger ladies.

They don't dispute it because there's nothing to dispute. The whole sexual equality thing is a farce. Women can't beat men in anything. They're never the top...and if by chance they DO find ONE...that's about all they'll find. A few compared to the millions of things men can beat them at.

I just want honesty and to admit and work WITH the differences...not fight against them. Let women do what women were MADE to do...have and raise kids with a father who provided for them. That's how it's been for millions of years until the "civil rights" of the 60s destroyed the family.



I'm me...

Your analogy fails in that blacks and whites are NOT the same inside like your glass is. They're rock...as dumb as rock. If you've REALLY been overseas and been to black countries...you know they're NOT like us. They don't think like us. They don't act like us. They don't live like us. They do very little like us. And they don't LOOK like us. Because they're NOT us...they're stone and not glass.

Glass IS better than stone, it can do delicate work. Stone crushes things like the minorities do wherever they go. They crush the life out of everywhere they group in large numbers/percentages. EVERY time.



I AM correct. Equality is a lie, a ruse. Name calling is ALL the liberals have because the facts NEVER back them up. They live in a utopian fantasy.

I don't mind the names...sticks and stones and all that...

It's the CONSTANT attempts to get me banned. They just WON'T give up...they message and message the moderators until they relent. They cry and whine like spoiled little girls.



I don't care what most people think...because most people are brain dead. They just cruise through life, doing their little thing, believing what they're told by the "authorities". They'll argue and argue about things they know nothing about.

I'm hear to share with you what "I" think. After 60 something years I think I've figured a lot out. It's made me cynical. About most everything. Because after that many years, you HAVE seen it all. You realize how fake and manipulated just about everything is.

It's why I'm here in the bubble...a bastion of Norman Rockwell's "white America". I just don't like minorities. I don't like how they speak, act, live, dress, their music, their unpredictability, violence, propensity to be uneducated and poor. I'd just rather not have them around me. It's my right to free association.

Very few Villagers are like this man. Do not judge the rest of us by this arschloch.

[ColdNoMore]

Very few Villagers are like this man. Do not judge the rest of us by this arschloch.

Actually, we have more than you think.

Larbud is even worse than Donny and a couple of others...admire DB and his posts.

[larbud]

Actually, we have more than you think.

Larbud is even worse than Donny and a couple of others...admire DB and his posts.

Nah, Worse would be you libturds with your heads up your asses😎

[Taltarzac725]

Nah, Worse would be you libturds with your heads up your asses😎

Like all those idiots who put Donald Trump and his liberal agenda into the White House.

[autumnspring]

These pages are loaded with unhealthy and dividing accusations of racism and frankly its has to stop. In my view the liberal false narrative as described below and coming primarily from the political left and education sectors and Hollywood reinforces the white stereotype perpetuating this racial divide ,pretty much the same way Hollywood's continual depiction of police as being racist in just about every movie they produce is one cause of the Black Lives Matter movement.

For example taxpayers are funding 2017 programs sponsored by the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the University of Colorado-Denver for courses offered on how "whiteness" is a serious problem in this nation. The course at Wisconsin is actually called “The Problem of Whiteness.” The courses essentially assail "white supremacy" created by whites and for them and hence has to be eradicated by them.

Bill Clinton has blamed everyone under the sun for his wife's election loss and he also stated that Trump's only skill was getting "angry white men"to vote for him.

From the onset of the feminist movement the attacks on white males has persisted and while under Obama's watch accelerated.

For over 200 years being a white male, likely Judeo-Christian, patriotic , striving to make a living and a contribution to this nation was to be normal.

Today if I am born white it automatically makes me a racist.

If I am a fiscal and moral conservative, a fascist

A heterosexual, a homophobic.

Non-union, aligned with big business.

Religious ,naive

Support the 2nd amendment, a crazy yokel

Proud American, a xenophobe

Support the police, a right wing extremist

Believe in meritorious reward system, a crony capitalist

Support the defense of our nation, a war monger

Ostensibly the liberal narrative is absolute in its message and that perpetuates the divide. Not all white men are bad. This nation stands strong because of the contribution and sacrifices of white men from the days of the Pilgrims to the sands of Iraq . simply stated this nations historical narrative has to be brought into a realistic perspective as related to the human experience

Personal Best Regards:

If, you ALLOW what others think to determine your value, you allow others to CONTROL YOUR VALUE.

I am not POLITICALLY CORRECT.
I am not perfect BUT AS TO YOUR OPINION OF ME-I SIMPLY DO NOT CARE.

[Taltarzac725]

There are some rabid racists on here. These are far and few between in the Villages and anywhere else for that matter. And Donald Trump is hardly a racist. He just baited people with labels to get press so that he could get elected by people who hate the status quo in Washington.

[MDLNB]

There are some rabid racists on here. These are far and few between in the Villages and anywhere else for that matter. And Donald Trump is hardly a racist. He just baited people with labels to get press so that he could get elected by people who hate the status quo in Washington.

Tal, there is such things as a Christmas miracle! I actually agree with your comment. It must be cold in H3LL today.

Have a great day.

[tboss]

You are exactly right. I wish I had the ability to express what you have posted so eloquently. Of course, when some leftists read it, if they read it, they will label you exactly as you have predicted. Thank you for this post that identifies a problem we have, and that we would like to see solved. Unfortunately, when Hollywood, the mainstream media, television, and our universities are perpetuating the sterotype that all whites, especially males, are the root of all that is wrong, I am not sure it can be solved. Take care.

[manthony]

I really do not care about the source of a "thought". Why aren't you concerned about the message of the words regarding "Whiteness is a problem"? Try teaching a course on any other type of person and see the backlash from the Media and the Left.

[MDLNB]

I have no problem with "whiteness." It is everyone else that has the problem with their "white" envy and resentment, and the libtards that believe that they are redeemable if they take a negative view on their own race. It's not being racist to be comfortable within your own race. It is racist to be bias against another race because they are only different by color. I am comfortable being "white" and will not allow anyone to attempt to convince me that I should be humble or beholden to anyone because they think that "white" is an elite status. It is the liberals that elevate "white" to a higher status and then hypocritically try to show their empathy for non-whites. Conservatives, on the other hand believe that everyone has basic equal rights, but no one deserves to be elevated or given priority over another based solely on race or gender, or gender confusion. We do not believe in the same definition of "fair" as liberals do. It is not fair to take from those that have and give it to those that do not. We do not believe in Affirmative Action because we believe that AA is prejudicial, giving some folks an unearned front of the line advantage over others that may have earned that position by merit. Nope, I am not ashamed of being "white." And I do not wish to be any other color. This view only makes me seem racist to liberals.

[ColdNoMore]

And I do not wish to be any other color. This view only makes me seem racist to liberals.

Sorry, but you've just proved once again that you KNOW being white is a huge advantage...but are too chicken$hit to admit it.

So now tell us why you are glad you're not black. :popcorn:

[dirtbanker]

...being white is a huge advantage...

Are you suggesting that people should think less of a person because they have an advantage??

[jeriteri]

You're another unhappy person with the election results. You cannot believe that Hillary lost. Yet you will keep on badgering the people who bring out the real truth in America. You think you're the world scholar who knows everything about everything. You try to bully people and condemn them for their freedom of speech. Plagiarized? You can't even spell it right! Everyone takes info from others and uses it in their daily communication with others. Your are like the leftist teachers and professors now in our schools who will beat down a student if they think they plagiarized filing our children's minds with leftist rederick. You have a mind like a child who didn't get their way. Some day you may grow up to be one of us.

[MDLNB]

Sorry, but you've just proved once again that you KNOW being white is a huge advantage...but are too chicken$hit to admit it.

So now tell us why you are glad you're not black. :popcorn:

No CNM, you just PROVED how you think WHITES are better than everyone else. You are an elitist. It is you that has a color problem. Thank you for proving my point about libtards.

:boom: you pulled my finger.............:a20:

[Chi-Town]

You're another unhappy person with the election results. You cannot believe that Hillary lost. Yet you will keep on badgering the people who bring out the real truth in America. You think you're the world scholar who knows everything about everything. You try to bully people and condemn them for their freedom of speech. Plagiarized? You can't even spell it right! Everyone takes info from others and uses it in their daily communication with others. Your are like the leftist teachers and professors now in our schools who will beat down a student if they think they plagiarized filing our children's minds with leftist rederick. You have a mind like a child who didn't get their way. Some day you may grow up to be one of us.

Time to proofread your posts. Or get someone to help you.

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[Chi-Town]

No CNM, you just PROVED how you think WHITES are better than everyone else. You are an elitist. It is you that has a color problem. Thank you for proving my point about libtards.

:boom: you pulled my finger.............:a20:
MD, I sometimes get a kick out of your back and forth with CNM. But what really tickles me is that he plays you like a fiddle, and you still don't know it.


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[ColdNoMore]

MD, I sometimes get a kick out of your back and forth with CNM. But what really tickles me is that he plays you like a fiddle, and you still don't know it.


Shhhhh....... :D

[rubicon]

Other than adding his plagiarism and use of fake news with no citations/links...you've summed up Rubithecon perfectly. :thumbup:

don't hate me because I'm handsome:)

[Buffalo Jim]

Sorry, but you've just proved once again that you KNOW being white is a huge advantage...but are too chicken$hit to admit it.

So now tell us why you are glad you're not black. :popcorn:

Being intelligent and able to think for oneself is the true huge advantage .

Being confident in one`s ability to analyze issues without the felt need to have to " go along with the crowd " any crowd is a huge advantage .

Being able to exist without the need to constantly exhibit false piety and a false sense of injustice along with a felt need to demonstrate conformity to any political belief system is the ultimate huge advantage .

[rubicon]

Isn't it contrary to good self-image not to be proud as to who you are as to race, gender, color, belief.

This thread keeps going off in directions that are not conducive to garnering unity. That is the central issue to the topic's label and the point of contention where at least two universities are going to teach their students to hate white people and white males in particular.

Education is suppose to teach people to independently think for themselves to broaden their horizons and not to reduce them to collectives. Collectivism is godlessness because it wants you to answer to the state. Is there any difference in Denver or Madison teaching the problems with whiteness then ISIS, Palestinians,etc teaching their kids to hate and encourage them to kill Jews, Christians and anyone not like them.

There is an undercurrent that has taken hold of this nation's youth that is building to the same end product as ISIS. Not all things that are scary are dangerous but this one is scary and potentially dangerous.

One remedy put God back in your life. God is what sustained the congregation in that black church in Charleston when 9 of their members perished at the hands of a person of hate.

Personal Best Regards:

[MDLNB]

MD, I sometimes get a kick out of your back and forth with CNM. But what really tickles me is that he plays you like a fiddle, and you still don't know it.


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Wow Chi, you're really coming out of your shell. You have really graduated from one liners, even if you have nothing pertaining to the subject to say. I'm proud of you.

[MDLNB]

Time to proofread your posts. Or get someone to help you.

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And there you have it. That's all Chi got from that person's post.

[ColdNoMore]

don't hate me because I'm handsome

I don't "hate" you for anything.

1. Not even when you stand on your soapbox and play pseudo-intellectual.

2. Not even when you state something as fact...that is so easily proved to be a lie.

3. Not even when you cut/paste, without links/citations, in hopes of coming across as.. (see #1).

4. I don't hate you when you use a broad brush and anecdotal stories...to try and prove a point.

5. Not even when you lie, you know you're lying, get caught lying...and still protest that what you say is true.


In fact, I actually find you quite entertaining. :D

You want so bad to be taken seriously, and by your own ilk possibly you are, but for those of us who actually do research and strive to know the truth...you come across as the kid who was never quite accepted.

Which, ironically, makes me a bit empathetic for you.

"Hate" isn't in my nature, but an appreciation for the mirth you bring and a willingness to laugh out loud at the things you say and of people like you...definitely gives my life color. :thumbup:

So thanks for that. :ho:

[Buffalo Jim]

Some people have god to guide them . We have been gifted with his son " Cold No More " and his apostles .

[ColdNoMore]

Some people have god to guide them . We have been gifted with his son " Cold No More " and his apostles .

Once again, your ignorance and hypocrisy...have me cracking up. :1rotfl:


Although you would rather cut your fingers off, than to type that it is your political side that has the 'God Complex'...proof doesn't lie. ;)

‘King’ Christmas tweet leads to battle royale | Boston Herald (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/12/king_christmas_tweet_leads_to_battle_royale)

“Just as the three wise men did on that night, this Christmas heralds a time to celebrate the good news of a new King,” the statement continued.

And you know it's really bad, when your OWN SIDE has to tell you...that you've gone over the edge. :oops:

“Dear RNC: We don’t have a ‘new King.’ What the hell is wrong with you people?” tweeted John Weaver, a GOP strategist who worked on Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s presidential campaign.

[rubicon]

I don't "hate" you for anything.

1. Not even when you stand on your soapbox and play pseudo-intellectual.

2. Not even when you state something as fact...that is so easily proved to be a lie.

3. Not even when you cut/paste, without links/citations, in hopes of coming across as.. (see #1).

4. I don't hate you when you use a broad brush and anecdotal stories...to try and prove a point.

5. Not even when you lie, you know you're lying, get caught lying...and still protest that what you say is true.


In fact, I actually find you quite entertaining. :D

You want so bad to be taken seriously, and by your own ilk possibly you are, but for those of us who actually do research and strive to know the truth...you come across as the kid who was never quite accepted.

Which, ironically, makes me a bit empathetic for you.

"Hate" isn't in my nature, but an appreciation for the mirth you bring and a willingness to laugh out loud at the things you say and of people like you...definitely gives my life color. :thumbup:

So thanks for that. :ho:

Oh come on you hate me because I'm handsome:D On the serious side do you think I suffer from lack of self image? Do you think you are dealing with a neophyte or one who lacks confidence? I am funny how am I funny you mean funny ha ha...
Sorry but that guy's not me. You want to get along with me then learn to speak in a civil manner.
you are another of those progressive that demand my standards be higher than the left leaning confirmation bias lacking fact checking media sources you accept as gospel and use on these pages . gimme me a break


Personal Best Regards:

[jeriteri]

Time to proofread your posts. Or get someone to help you.

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Typical liberal, never speaks on the question, just brings more rederick that they themselves don't understand.barf

[ColdNoMore]

Typical liberal, never speaks on the question, just brings more rederick that they themselves don't understand.

"Rederickly" speaking of course. :1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

[Buffalo Jim]

Once again, your ignorance and hypocrisy...have me cracking up. :1rotfl:


Although you would rather cut your fingers off, than to type that it is your political side that has the 'God Complex'...proof doesn't lie. ;)

‘King’ Christmas tweet leads to battle royale | Boston Herald (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/12/king_christmas_tweet_leads_to_battle_royale)



And you know it's really bad, when your OWN SIDE has to tell you...that you've gone over the edge. :oops:

You are a very sensitive soul aren`t you sweetheart . You for all of your bravado just can`t let anything go . Sign of an extremely sensitive skin . Apparently we own you !

[Chi-Town]

You are a very sensitive soul aren`t you sweetheart . You for all of your bravado just can`t let anything go . Sign of an extremely sensitive skin . Apparently we own you !
Is that you BJ? You've got to be kidding. I don't know.... there can't be two of you (hopefully). But you do have an alter ego.




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