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Guest
06-03-2009, 01:10 PM
Amateur hour continues in Washington and with the Obama administration. Our highly paid administration "accidentally" released a 266 page classified report that reveals U.S. nuclear secrets that include detailed maps showing the precise locations of stockpiles of fuel for nuclear weapons, nuclear sites and nuclear programs. It appeared on online. God knows what else these buffoons gave our enemies.
Obama bureaucrats are getting dizzy pointing the finger of blame while some are trying to water down the implications. The consequences were egregious enough for none other than the NY Times to break the troublesome story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/03/us/03nuke.html
Guest
06-03-2009, 01:39 PM
Amateur hour continues in Washington and with the Obama administration. Our highly paid administration "accidentally" released a 266 page classified report that reveals U.S. nuclear secrets that include detailed maps showing the precise locations of stockpiles of fuel for nuclear weapons, nuclear sites and nuclear programs. It appeared on online. God knows what else these buffoons gave our enemies.
Obama bureaucrats are getting dizzy pointing the finger of blame while some are trying to water down the implications. The consequences were egregious enough for none other than the NY Times to break the troublesome story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/03/us/03nuke.html
Thanks for the head's up. I just checked it out and it is everywhere.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090603/D98J6BAG0.html
Guest
06-03-2009, 01:51 PM
The article states the documents are confidential but not classified as alleged by the starter of the thread.
Well if anybody gets their hands on some of the nuclear material, they can use the primer for building a nuclear bomb that was released by the Bush administration, at the urging of Congressional Republicans, in 2006.
Nuclear experts stated the article released by the Bush administration goes beyond what is on the internet and available in public forums. They also stated the documents are a "cookbook". "If you had this it would short circuit a lot of things."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?_r=2&oref=slogin
"God knows what else these bufoons gave our enemies."
Guest
06-03-2009, 02:20 PM
My memory is a little foggy but I remember some hoopla during the Clinton era about secrets from our Labs being given to the Chinese. And whatever happened to the Clinton guy who got caught stuffing his trousers with classified information? I'll have to look that one up...I forgot his name.:shrug:
Keedy
Guest
06-03-2009, 02:41 PM
My memory is a little foggy but I remember some hoopla during the Clinton era about secrets from our Labs being given to the Chinese. And whatever happened to the Clinton guy who got caught stuffing his trousers with classified information? I'll have to look that one up...I forgot his name.:shrug:
Keedy
Sandy Berger,I believe.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/01/sandy_berger_what_did_he_take.html
Guest
06-03-2009, 02:58 PM
Sandy Berger,I believe.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/01/sandy_berger_what_did_he_take.html
Thank-you ...I must be getting old. I think I have CRS.:laugh:
I like this part:
Those who wrap themselves so frequently in the mantra of the people's right to know should want to know the truth - all the time. Sadly, today's would-be Woodwards and Bernsteins look more like ostriches than hawks, showing no curiosity about what Sandy Berger was hiding. Had that been the attitude when Watergate first appeared as a minor news story, Richard Nixon would have served out his full second term. The rest, as they say, is history.
Keedy
Guest
06-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Amateur hour continues in Washington and with the Obama administration. Our highly paid administration "accidentally" released a 266 page classified report that reveals U.S. nuclear secrets that include detailed maps showing the precise locations of stockpiles of fuel for nuclear weapons, nuclear sites and nuclear programs. It appeared on online. God knows what else these buffoons gave our enemies.
Robert Charles Tapella is the current Public Printer of the United States. Tapella was nominated by President of the United States George W. Bush in May 2007. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., Tapella oversees production and distribution of information products and services for all three branches of the Federal Government. Many of the country’s most important information products, such as the Congressional Record and the Federal Register are produced at GPO’s main plant located five blocks from the U.S. Capitol.
Guest
06-03-2009, 03:35 PM
Robert Charles Tapella is the current Public Printer of the United States. Tapella was nominated by President of the United States George W. Bush in May 2007. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., Tapella oversees production and distribution of information products and services for all three branches of the Federal Government. Many of the country’s most important information products, such as the Congressional Record and the Federal Register are produced at GPO’s main plant located five blocks from the U.S. Capitol.
And there you go !!! Now we have the culprit..what oh what will we do when these Bush folks retire ?
Guest
06-03-2009, 03:43 PM
And there you go !!! Now we have the culprit..what oh what will we do when these Bush folks retire ?
:a20: Someone's got to be the boogey man.:sigh:
Keedy
Guest
06-03-2009, 04:03 PM
Bimmer, it would appear you would like to split hairs in your limp attempt to defend the indefensible. Unaccustomed as I am to playing the "hair splitting" scenario you chose to initiate, I will respond in kind while trying to keep the integrity of the thread.
Having a modest command of the King'a English, the exact wording in issue, doesn't express your watered down attempt to distract from the point. The text is clearly more precise than your description as just "confidential". In fact it states, “Highly Confidential Safeguards Sensitive”
According to the NY Times, "each page is marked across the top “Highly Confidential Safeguards Sensitive” in capital letters, with the exception of pages that detailed additional information like site maps".
Regarding your lame retreat to a Bush bashing parallel vis-a-vis your link, did you bother to read anything but the headline? Apples and bananas as far as a correlation to the Obama team blunder.
I doubt anyone else would have to reach back to a 2006 NY Times headline about "detailed accounts of Iraq’s secret nuclear research before the 1991 Persian Gulf war." to attack the Bush administration.
None of the "revelations" regarding the stale information you cite was classified, confidential, highly confidential or "no peek" , nor did it correlate with the premise of your argument. It was Iraqi information that did not expose American secrets. In fact, your link says that "most of the documents were in Arabic." The Iraqis already had all the information contained therein, it was theirs to begin with. I agree with you on one point. :bowdown: Some of the "cookbook" nuts and bolts, if they existed, should have been redacted. However, I reiterate that none of the information was classified in any category.
Speaking of document classification:
I believe the basic Levels of classification used by the U.S. Government are: (sub-categories omitted)
Top secret
Secret
Confidential
Unclassified
Controlled Unclassified Information (CUI)
Restricted
If this premise is correct, it would appear that anything including and above "Confidential" is considered "Classified" and perhaps the President misspoke when he quoted to the contrary. It is my educated guess that information is "Classified" if it is designated as either Confidential, Secret, or Top Secret. It appears the classification in issue falls in the "Confidential" category or one of that category's sub-categories, ergo, it would be "Classified."
I stand by my comment that the Obama administration buffoons who revealed this sensitive information have made me, my family and Americans less safe.
Are we having fun yet? Thanks for the cerebral exercise. I need an antagonist to keep me focused on the fine points even if they are modestly irrelevant and boring to everyone else who reads the thread..
Bimmer....is that a foreign car?
Guest
06-03-2009, 10:53 PM
Robert Charles Tapella is the current Public Printer of the United States. Tapella was nominated by President of the United States George W. Bush in May 2007. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., Tapella oversees production and distribution of information products and services for all three branches of the Federal Government. Many of the country’s most important information products, such as the Congressional Record and the Federal Register are produced at GPO’s main plant located five blocks from the U.S. Capitol.
How much koolaid must I drink to be like you?
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
Guest
06-03-2009, 11:08 PM
How much koolaid must I drink to be like you?
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
I bet it is ftuit-flavored.:pepper2:
( only kidding...put down that rock..right now!!!):evil6:
Guest
06-04-2009, 07:10 AM
And there you go !!! Now we have the culprit..what oh what will we do when these Bush folks retire ?
Another Bush crony ("Heckuva Job Brownie") who should have been fired early-on.
Guest
06-04-2009, 07:18 AM
Another Bush crony ("Heckuva Job Brownie") who should have been fired early-on.
Actually, KayakerNC...you dont even have to post anymore.
Any problem was caused by Bush......any good is because he is gone and Obama is here ! Pretty predictable :)
Guest
06-04-2009, 07:42 AM
I bet it is ftuit-flavored.:pepper2:
( only kidding...put down that rock..right now!!!):evil6:
Koolaid? Perhaps a fine Chianti and some Fava Beans.:pepper2:
(Nice rock, but let me show you my Ginzu knife set.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVlkZVAw8Gc
Guest
06-04-2009, 07:45 AM
Actually, KayakerNC...you dont even have to post anymore.
Any problem was caused by Bush......any good is because he is gone and Obama is here ! Pretty predictable :)
If you promise to quit posting about Acorn every other day, I'll try to avoid confusing you with facts.:shrug:
Guest
06-04-2009, 08:13 AM
If you promise to quit posting about Acorn every other day, I'll try to avoid confusing you with facts.:shrug:
I wont post about ACORN unless they are in the news !!!
As for facts, no worry...trust me your "facts" are not confusing. As I said, if it is bad....BUSH....if it is good...OBAMA. Got it :)
Guest
06-04-2009, 09:13 AM
I wont post about ACORN unless they are in the news !!!
As for facts, no worry...trust me your "facts" are not confusing. As I said, if it is bad....BUSH....if it is good...OBAMA. Got it :)
Hey Bucco...that's what got the Annointed One elected. That is their answer for everything while they turn this great nation into a banana republic.
Check out BHO's speech....He say's "I" like 31 times...congress "once" and "law" zero times:
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=49056
Keedy
Guest
06-04-2009, 12:26 PM
Bimmer, it would appear you would like to split hairs in your limp attempt to defend the indefensible. Unaccustomed as I am to playing the "hair splitting" scenario you chose to initiate, I will respond in kind while trying to keep the integrity of the thread.
Having a modest command of the King'a English, the exact wording in issue, doesn't express your watered down attempt to distract from the point. The text is clearly more precise than your description as just "confidential". In fact it states, “Highly Confidential Safeguards Sensitive”
According to the NY Times, "each page is marked across the top “Highly Confidential Safeguards Sensitive” in capital letters, with the exception of pages that detailed additional information like site maps".
Regarding your lame retreat to a Bush bashing parallel vis-a-vis your link, did you bother to read anything but the headline? Apples and bananas as far as a correlation to the Obama team blunder.
I doubt anyone else would have to reach back to a 2006 NY Times headline about "detailed accounts of Iraq’s secret nuclear research before the 1991 Persian Gulf war." to attack the Bush administration.
None of the "revelations" regarding the stale information you cite was classified, confidential, highly confidential or "no peek" , nor did it correlate with the premise of your argument. It was Iraqi information that did not expose American secrets. In fact, your link says that "most of the documents were in Arabic." The Iraqis already had all the information contained therein, it was theirs to begin with. I agree with you on one point. :bowdown: Some of the "cookbook" nuts and bolts, if they existed, should have been redacted. However, I reiterate that none of the information was classified in any category.
Speaking of document classification:
I believe the basic Levels of classification used by the U.S. Government are: (sub-categories omitted)
Top secret
Secret
Confidential
Unclassified
Controlled Unclassified Information (CUI)
Restricted
If this premise is correct, it would appear that anything including and above "Confidential" is considered "Classified" and perhaps the President misspoke when he quoted to the contrary. It is my educated guess that information is "Classified" if it is designated as either Confidential, Secret, or Top Secret. It appears the classification in issue falls in the "Confidential" category or one of that category's sub-categories, ergo, it would be "Classified."
I stand by my comment that the Obama administration buffoons who revealed this sensitive information have made me, my family and Americans less safe.
Are we having fun yet? Thanks for the cerebral exercise. I need an antagonist to keep me focused on the fine points even if they are modestly irrelevant and boring to everyone else who reads the thread..
Bimmer....is that a foreign car?
AND SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THEIR JOBS!!:agree::cus:barf
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