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jimbo2012
12-29-2016, 07:23 AM
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE - Report: Obama family personal trips cost $85 million over eight years

WASHINGTON

As America’s first family enjoys its eighth and final vacation in Hawaii, new estimates put the price tag of the Obamas’ annual trip at $3.5 million or more.

In total, the cost of the the first family’s personal or largely personal travel during the last eight years comes to $85 million – though that is likely to climb to $90 million after additional records are released, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch based on federal government records.

The cost of Air Force One and other government planes as well as helicopters, cargo planes, armored cars, Secret Service protection and advance, communications and medical staff has led Judicial Watch to push for less personal travel.
ADVERTISING

“The Secret Service and the Air Force are being abused by unnecessary travel,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said. “Unnecessary presidential travel for fundraising and luxury vacations on the taxpayers’ dime would be a good target for reform for the incoming Trump administration.”

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MDLNB
12-29-2016, 07:29 AM
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE - Report: Obama family personal trips cost $85 million over eight years

WASHINGTON

As America’s first family enjoys its eighth and final vacation in Hawaii, new estimates put the price tag of the Obamas’ annual trip at $3.5 million or more.

In total, the cost of the the first family’s personal or largely personal travel during the last eight years comes to $85 million – though that is likely to climb to $90 million after additional records are released, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch based on federal government records.

The cost of Air Force One and other government planes as well as helicopters, cargo planes, armored cars, Secret Service protection and advance, communications and medical staff has led Judicial Watch to push for less personal travel.

“The Secret Service and the Air Force are being abused by unnecessary travel,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said. “Unnecessary presidential travel for fundraising and luxury vacations on the taxpayers’ dime would be a good target for reform for the incoming Trump administration.”



Need to get in on some of that public housing.

Don Baldwin
12-29-2016, 08:00 AM
What is a group of simians called? A troop? A congress? A shrewdness?

Taltarzac725
12-29-2016, 09:41 AM
And how much per day does it cost now to protect the Trump family members in NYC???

janmcn
12-29-2016, 09:46 AM
And how much per day does it cost now to protect the Trump family members in NYC???


NYC is sending the federal government a bill for $35 million dollars, and that is only for the period since the election.

Another cut and paste job with no credit for the source.

jebartle
12-29-2016, 10:25 AM
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE - Report: Obama family personal trips cost $85 million over eight years

WASHINGTON

As America’s first family enjoys its eighth and final vacation in Hawaii, new estimates put the price tag of the Obamas’ annual trip at $3.5 million or more.

In total, the cost of the the first family’s personal or largely personal travel during the last eight years comes to $85 million – though that is likely to climb to $90 million after additional records are released, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch based on federal government records.

The cost of Air Force One and other government planes as well as helicopters, cargo planes, armored cars, Secret Service protection and advance, communications and medical staff has led Judicial Watch to push for less personal travel.
ADVERTISING

“The Secret Service and the Air Force are being abused by unnecessary travel,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said. “Unnecessary presidential travel for fundraising and luxury vacations on the taxpayers’ dime would be a good target for reform for the incoming Trump administration.”

https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBiBAWh0dHA6Ly93d3cubWNjbGF0Y2h5ZGMuY2 9tL25ld3MvcG9saXRpY3MtZ292ZXJubWVudC93aGl0ZS1ob3Vz ZS92MGFhejIvcGljdHVyZTEyMzMzNTA2OS9BTFRFUk5BVEVTL0 xBTkRTQ0FQRV8xMTQwL0FQXzQ3NzgyMjYyMDc0MxToERSoCRwU hAYUlAMAABYAEgA&s=jYy2tjuMmodCElHvfKBaoYpOofpc4RZARLGjUKYSTcU

Why is it difficult for some posters to FACT CHECK!!!!!!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-29-2016, 10:27 AM
I've never been a fan of President Obama or his policies or ideas for this country, but this complaint is a bit unfair.
It has cost huge amounts of money for every president in the past 50 years to go on vacations.

I takes so much to move a president from one place to another.

For example are you aware that there are two Air Force Ones? For security reasons, there are two identical planes. Every time the president flies they both take off and and fly to the destination so that the odds of his being shot down are cut in half. The same for the presidential limousine.

There are also several cars of security personnel and others that form a motorcade. There are often other airplanes that carry the limo and other equipment when he travels.

In addition, there are probably hundreds of personnel that travel with the president.

This is not a situation that is unique to President Obama. It happens with all presidents. And the cost has been more for each successive president as the cost of living has increased and the cost of new technology has been added.

IMHO there is plenty of things to complain about with this administration, but vacations and travel cost are not one of them.

janmcn
12-29-2016, 10:39 AM
I've never been a fan of President Obama or his policies or ideas for this country, but this complaint is a bit unfair.
It has cost huge amounts of money for every president in the past 50 years to go on vacations.

I takes so much to move a president from one place to another.

For example are you aware that there are two Air Force Ones? For security reasons, there are two identical planes. Every time the president flies they both take off and and fly to the destination so that the odds of his being shot down are cut in half. The same for the presidential limousine.

There are also several cars of security personnel and others that form a motorcade. There are often other airplanes that carry the limo and other equipment when he travels.

In addition, there are probably hundreds of personnel that travel with the president.

This is not a situation that is unique to President Obama. It happens with all presidents. And the cost has been more for each successive president as the cost of living has increased and the cost of new technology has been added.

IMHO there is plenty of things to complain about with this administration, but vacations and travel cost are not one of them.



Very well stated. Hopefully all the posters who have been keeping track of the Obama's travel expenses for the last eight years are prepared to do the same for Trump. As he prepares to move to DC, while his wife and family remain in NYC, will he be using Air Force One every week-end to go back and forth?

Rockyrd
12-29-2016, 10:47 AM
I've never been a fan of President Obama or his policies or ideas for this country, but this complaint is a bit unfair.
It has cost huge amounts of money for every president in the past 50 years to go on vacations.

I takes so much to move a president from one place to another.

For example are you aware that there are two Air Force Ones? For security reasons, there are two identical planes. Every time the president flies they both take off and and fly to the destination so that the odds of his being shot down are cut in half. The same for the presidential limousine.

There are also several cars of security personnel and others that form a motorcade. There are often other airplanes that carry the limo and other equipment when he travels.

In addition, there are probably hundreds of personnel that travel with the president.

This is not a situation that is unique to President Obama. It happens with all presidents. And the cost has been more for each successive president as the cost of living has increased and the cost of new technology has been added.

IMHO there is plenty of things to complain about with this administration, but vacations and travel cost are not one of them.

You made my day.

A logical, informed poster. Thank you

Paper1
12-29-2016, 11:20 AM
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE - Report: Obama family personal trips cost $85 million over eight years

WASHINGTON

As America’s first family enjoys its eighth and final vacation in Hawaii, new estimates put the price tag of the Obamas’ annual trip at $3.5 million or more.

In total, the cost of the the first family’s personal or largely personal travel during the last eight years comes to $85 million – though that is likely to climb to $90 million after additional records are released, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch based on federal government records.

The cost of Air Force One and other government planes as well as helicopters, cargo planes, armored cars, Secret Service protection and advance, communications and medical staff has led Judicial Watch to push for less personal travel.
ADVERTISING

“The Secret Service and the Air Force are being abused by unnecessary travel,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said. “Unnecessary presidential travel for fundraising and luxury vacations on the taxpayers’ dime would be a good target for reform for the incoming Trump administration.”

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What are you whining about? You are not paying for it, your grand children are.

dirtbanker
12-29-2016, 11:33 AM
And how much per day does it cost now to protect the Trump family members in NYC???

Diversion, #1 tactic of the liberal...

dirtbanker
12-29-2016, 11:37 AM
I've never been a fan of President Obama or his policies or ideas for this country, but this complaint is a bit unfair.
It has cost huge amounts of money for every president in the past 50 years to go on vacations.

I takes so much to move a president from one place to another.

For example are you aware that there are two Air Force Ones? For security reasons, there are two identical planes. Every time the president flies they both take off and and fly to the destination so that the odds of his being shot down are cut in half. The same for the presidential limousine.

There are also several cars of security personnel and others that form a motorcade. There are often other airplanes that carry the limo and other equipment when he travels.

In addition, there are probably hundreds of personnel that travel with the president.

This is not a situation that is unique to President Obama. It happens with all presidents. And the cost has been more for each successive president as the cost of living has increased and the cost of new technology has been added.

IMHO there is plenty of things to complain about with this administration, but vacations and travel cost are not one of them.

There you go...WHO CARES how much he spent on vacations with his family and friends? The guy needs a break from golf every now and then...

dirtbanker
12-29-2016, 11:39 AM
Very well stated. Hopefully all the posters who have been keeping track of the Obama's travel expenses for the last eight years are prepared to do the same for Trump. As he prepares to move to DC, while his wife and family remain in NYC, will he be using Air Force One every week-end to go back and forth?

The posters don't have to keep track of it, the government does.

You have no idea if he is going to commute on a weekly bases, do you? Just more Jan's BS...

dirtbanker
12-29-2016, 11:42 AM
You made my day.

A logical, informed poster. Thank you

Yeah, you got no problem with Obamma spending that kind of money on family vacations, You just have a problem if Trump does...being you are a conservative of course!

hypocritehunter
12-29-2016, 11:47 AM
Why is it difficult for some posters to FACT CHECK!!!!!!

Of course it's not difficult. It's just not as emotionally rewarding when facts don't support your prejudices.

Buffalo Jim
12-29-2016, 12:48 PM
All Leftie Pols are inherently superior and if they are Black they are Royalty . They deserve every nickel they can squeeze out of the system .
That`s why Michelle`s Mother deserves the $160,000 annual lifetime income and free Health Care which Barry granted to her .

ColdNoMore
12-29-2016, 12:55 PM
All Leftie Pols are inherently superior and if they are Black they are Royalty . They deserve every nickel they can squeeze out of the system .
That`s why Michelle`s Mother deserves the $160,000 annual lifetime income and free Health Care which Barry granted to her .

This is why people feel superior to ignorant people like yourself...because most are. :oops:

First Grandma Marian Robinson to Receive Lifetime $160K Government Pension : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/marian-robinson-pension/)


Marian Robinson, First Lady Michelle Obama's mother, will receive a lifetime pension of $160,000 from the U.S. government.

FALSE

There was no truth to this report. The Boston Tribune is a fake news site that masquerades as the online arm of a legitimate big-city newspaper in order to lure readers with fabricated clickbait stories.



First Grandma Marian Robinson to Receive $160,000 Lifetime Pension-Fiction! (https://www.truthorfiction.com/first-grandma-marian-robinson-receive-160000-lifetime-pension/)

The Truth:

False reports that Marian Robinson will receive a $160,000 government pension for life started with a fake news website.


Fvcking idiot. :ohdear:

dmb51973
12-29-2016, 12:55 PM
The President also pays for his vacation. It is not billed to the taxpayers. He needs a place that can be secured. He can't check into the local Motel 6. He is on duty 24/7 so give the guy a break. He has certainly taken less time off then Bush jr.

MDLNB
12-29-2016, 01:07 PM
The President also pays for his vacation. It is not billed to the taxpayers. He needs a place that can be secured. He can't check into the local Motel 6. He is on duty 24/7 so give the guy a break. He has certainly taken less time off then Bush jr.

OH? Did Bush fly to Hawaii every year for his vacation? If you are going to talk about his going to his ranch in Texas, then you might want to check to see how many times he did business there, much like going to Camp David, which does not seem to be utilized anymore. The president can take his vacation anywhere he wishes, to an African safari if he wishes. One of the many perks. As far as I am concerned, Jan 20th can not get here fast enough. Then Obama can take his permanent vacation.

dirtbanker
12-29-2016, 01:15 PM
The President also pays for his vacation. It is not billed to the taxpayers. He needs a place that can be secured. He can't check into the local Motel 6. He is on duty 24/7 so give the guy a break. He has certainly taken less time off then Bush jr.

Please explain how Obamma paid for his vacations. I don't feel Obamma golfing is on duty 24/7, certainly he had an idea of the time commitment prior to pursuing the position...Is 85 million considered just giving the guy a break?

Bush Jr? Is that supposed to justify spending 85 million on family vacations?

janmcn
12-29-2016, 01:47 PM
Please explain how Obamma paid for his vacations. I don't feel Obamma golfing is on duty 24/7, certainly he had an idea of the time commitment prior to pursuing the position...Is 85 million considered just giving the guy a break?

Bush Jr? Is that supposed to justify spending 85 million on family vacations?


Obama pays for his vacation rentals just like everyone else. He gets out his checkbook and writes a check. The house they have been renting in Martha's Vineyard rents for $20,000 per week. They have to rent homes in secure locations and large enough for a contingent of secret service.

Buffalo Jim
12-29-2016, 03:22 PM
In the eyes of every socialist in the USA Obama has never done anything wrong , has never abused his position and never ever will do anything wrong .

dirtbanker
12-29-2016, 04:52 PM
Obama pays for his vacation rentals just like everyone else. He gets out his checkbook and writes a check. The house they have been renting in Martha's Vineyard rents for $20,000 per week. They have to rent homes in secure locations and large enough for a contingent of secret service.

How Much Did Obama Hawaii Trip Cost You? - Judicial Watch (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/much-obama-hawaii-trip-cost/)

MDLNB
12-29-2016, 04:57 PM
In the eyes of every socialist in the USA Obama has never done anything wrong , has never abused his position and never ever will do anything wrong .

All hail the leader from behind. Savior of the LBGTQ community.

dirtbanker
12-29-2016, 04:59 PM
Obama pays for his vacation rentals just like everyone else. He gets out his checkbook and writes a check. The house they have been renting in Martha's Vineyard rents for $20,000 per week. They have to rent homes in secure locations and large enough for a contingent of secret service.

Well you feel that justifies the 85 million dollars the tax payers incurred for his family VACATION travels? If your so good with it why don't you write a check to cover his family VACATION expenses, big spender...

MDLNB
12-29-2016, 05:17 PM
I don't care how much he spends on his way out. I just want him out so he can be known as the worst black president that the left elected. But, most of all I am just looking forward to a full week of TV without him showing up on it.

Buffalo Jim
12-29-2016, 06:30 PM
All hail the leader from behind. Savior of the LBGTQ community.

He never once spent a weekend at Camp David .

Not close enough to " The Hood " for O'Blama and his kin .

virgind
12-29-2016, 08:20 PM
And we will be paying through the nose for the man noted for trying to destroy The United States of America. Only in America.

Don Baldwin
12-29-2016, 08:42 PM
I don't care how much he spends on his way out. I just want him out so he can be known as the worst black president that the left elected. But, most of all I am just looking forward to a full week of TV without him showing up on it.

He spent $10 trillion and left us ALL the bill... Typical black. Take and take...and then leave the bill for someone else.

Warren Kiefer
12-29-2016, 10:04 PM
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE - Report: Obama family personal trips cost $85 million over eight years

WASHINGTON

As America’s first family enjoys its eighth and final vacation in Hawaii, new estimates put the price tag of the Obamas’ annual trip at $3.5 million or more.

In total, the cost of the the first family’s personal or largely personal travel during the last eight years comes to $85 million – though that is likely to climb to $90 million after additional records are released, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch based on federal government records.

The cost of Air Force One and other government planes as well as helicopters, cargo planes, armored cars, Secret Service protection and advance, communications and medical staff has led Judicial Watch to push for less personal travel.
ADVERTISING

“The Secret Service and the Air Force are being abused by unnecessary travel,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said. “Unnecessary presidential travel for fundraising and luxury vacations on the taxpayers’ dime would be a good target for reform for the incoming Trump administration.”

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More money than this has already been spent on security at the trump Tower. And in just a few months.

Don Baldwin
12-29-2016, 10:18 PM
Obama pays for his vacation rentals just like everyone else. He gets out his checkbook and writes a check. The house they have been renting in Martha's Vineyard rents for $20,000 per week. They have to rent homes in secure locations and large enough for a contingent of secret service.

Come on Jan...at least be realistic when you lie. IF they pay anything, it's pro rata.

More money than this has already been spent on security at the trump Tower. And in just a few months.

Where's he supposed to live? Y

You lie Warren...the SS provides building security like this all the time when the president travels. Why do you people lie so? Or, are you really that gullible?

Plus...the White House will have to be fumigated, disinfected, and scrubbed from top to bottom to get rid of that smell. It'll be a year before it's habitable again.

Buffalo Jim
12-29-2016, 11:20 PM
This is why people feel superior to ignorant people like yourself...because most are. :oops:

First Grandma Marian Robinson to Receive Lifetime $160K Government Pension : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/marian-robinson-pension/)






First Grandma Marian Robinson to Receive $160,000 Lifetime Pension-Fiction! (https://www.truthorfiction.com/first-grandma-marian-robinson-receive-160000-lifetime-pension/)




Fvcking idiot. :ohdear:

Well Lord CNM ---- you should check out exactly who the fat slobs are who run Snopes out of their apartment . You people will buy anything as long as it is A nti-Conservative .FVcking [unt !!

rubicon
12-30-2016, 05:07 AM
This is why people feel superior to ignorant people like yourself...because most are. :oops:

First Grandma Marian Robinson to Receive Lifetime $160K Government Pension : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/marian-robinson-pension/)



First Grandma Marian Robinson to Receive $160,000 Lifetime Pension-Fiction! (https://www.truthorfiction.com/first-grandma-marian-robinson-receive-160000-lifetime-pension/)




Fvcking idiot. :ohdear:

So you believe that fact checkers that are predominately liberal always fact check honestly, competently and without bias? You never question what government sources tell the American people.
Even if you are correct and the story is untrue consider that the Obama's elitist entitlement mentality and behavior lend truth to this story that otherwise would have been dismissed out of hand.
People still follow the old saw : "where there is smoke there is fire" philosophy. Your expletive name calling closing was unnecessary

Personal Best Regards:

rubicon
12-30-2016, 05:21 AM
I never cared much for people who believed because of position, etc that they were entitled. Public servants, corporate, people, etc essentially people in high positions justify extravagant outings, season tickets to professional sports events, etc .

Boondoggles are a fact of life, an ugly one and you are not going to stop elitists from entertaining themselves on your dollar because they believe it to be a right

Personal Best Regards:

ColdNoMore
12-30-2016, 07:10 AM
So you believe that fact checkers that are predominately liberal always fact check honestly, competently and without bias? You never question what government sources tell the American people.
Even if you are correct and the story is untrue consider that the Obama's elitist entitlement mentality and behavior lend truth to this story that otherwise would have been dismissed out of hand.
People still follow the old saw : "where there is smoke there is fire" philosophy. Your expletive name calling closing was unnecessary

Personal Best Regards:

Those, like yourself, who either plagiarize from fake news sites and then don't even link to them or make pronouncements with absolutely no basis in fact, complaining because someone else actually took the time to fact check...perfectly exhibits the ignorance that got Trump elected.

I get why you types are leery of real fact checkers, as it simply shines a light on your lies...and you take umbrage that everyone doesn't just automatically believe anything you spew.

Sorry though, some of us are actually intelligent enough... to not believe known bull$hitters like him and yourself. :wave:

MDLNB
12-30-2016, 07:51 AM
Well Lord CNM ---- you should check out exactly who the fat slobs are who run Snopes out of their apartment . You people will buy anything as long as it is A nti-Conservative .FVcking [unt !!

:thumbup:...:BigApplause:

MDLNB
12-30-2016, 07:54 AM
Those, like yourself, who either plagiarize from fake news sites and then don't even link to them or make pronouncements with absolutely no basis in fact, complaining because someone else actually took the time to fact check...perfectly exhibits the ignorance that got Trump elected.

I get why you types are leery of real fact checkers, as it simply shines a light on your lies...and you take umbrage that everyone doesn't just automatically believe anything you spew.

Sorry though, some of us are actually intelligent enough... to not believe known bull$hitters like him and yourself. :wave:

You haven't proved it yet. Except for the part where you say your are "Sorry."

dirtbanker
12-30-2016, 09:06 AM
...perfectly exhibits the ignorance that got Trump elected.

Sorry though, some of us are actually intelligent enough... to not believe known bull$hitters like him and yourself. :wave:

Hey (unt -

As much as you don't want to admit it, Crooked Hillary lost, Trump won the election fair and square. Your above comment suggests that all the people that voted for Trump are ignorant. That is an elitist view...

You were not intelligent enough to figure out how to change the quoted persons name till I did it to you...you really believe you are so intelligent though.

You really have a stiffy for Rubicon? (bulldike lesbian tongue) Your like a stalker, every post Rubicon makes, you post "plagiarism" and of course the usual flurry of emoji.

ColdNoMore
12-30-2016, 09:24 AM
Hey (unt -

As much as you don't want to admit it, Crooked Hillary lost, Trump won the election fair and square. Your above comment suggests that all the people that voted for Trump are ignorant. That is an elitist view...

You were not intelligent enough to figure out how to change the quoted persons name till I did it to you...you really believe you are so intelligent though.

You really have a stiffy for Rubicon? (bulldike lesbian tongue) Your like a stalker, every post Rubicon makes, you post "plagiarism" and of course the usual flurry of emoji.

LOL :1rotfl:

I was changing your name, from 'guest'...... long before you figured it out. ;)

The rest of your post and especially your infatuation with the 'C' word...simply shows everyone what a lowlife, misogynist scumsucker you really are.

So thanx for that. :thumbup:

dirtbanker
12-30-2016, 09:35 AM
LOL :1rotfl:

I was changing your name, from 'guest'...... long before you figured it out. ;)

The rest of your post and especially your infatuation with the 'C' word...simply shows everyone what a lowlife, misogynist scumsucker you really are.

So thanx for that. :thumbup:

Hey (unt - you just proved you are a liar, I did it to you first and you know it!

Thanks for that, now go sit on your thumb!

autumnspring
12-30-2016, 09:36 AM
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE - Report: Obama family personal trips cost $85 million over eight years

WASHINGTON

As America’s first family enjoys its eighth and final vacation in Hawaii, new estimates put the price tag of the Obamas’ annual trip at $3.5 million or more.

In total, the cost of the the first family’s personal or largely personal travel during the last eight years comes to $85 million – though that is likely to climb to $90 million after additional records are released, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch based on federal government records.

The cost of Air Force One and other government planes as well as helicopters, cargo planes, armored cars, Secret Service protection and advance, communications and medical staff has led Judicial Watch to push for less personal travel.
ADVERTISING

“The Secret Service and the Air Force are being abused by unnecessary travel,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said. “Unnecessary presidential travel for fundraising and luxury vacations on the taxpayers’ dime would be a good target for reform for the incoming Trump administration.”

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MAKE THE WORLD SAFE FOR SOCIALISM.
I turned down a job years ago where on the interview when asked why the compensation offer seemed so low the reply was yeah but you will steal the rest form you expense account. l TOLD THEM I WAS NOT INTERESTED IN WORKING FOR THEM.

OBAMA-President is paid 400,000, which TRUMP has turned down. OBAMA-took 400,000 PLUS 85 MIL IN TRAVEL EXPENSE-PLUS, TEN TRILLION DOLLARS IN OVERDRAFT.
Will he AS THE CLINTONS DID steal the furniture as well?

Warren Kiefer
12-30-2016, 09:47 AM
MAKE THE WORLD SAFE FOR SOCIALISM.
I turned down a job years ago where on the interview when asked why the compensation offer seemed so low the reply was yeah but you will steal the rest form you expense account. l TOLD THEM I WAS NOT INTERESTED IN WORKING FOR THEM.

OBAMA-President is paid 400,000, which TRUMP has turned down. OBAMA-took 400,000 PLUS 85 MIL IN TRAVEL EXPENSE-PLUS, TEN TRILLION DOLLARS IN OVERDRAFT.
Will he AS THE CLINTONS DID steal the furniture as well?

Ignorant post !! How much do you think Trump has cheated the rest of us by not paying a single cent in taxes for years. The Clintons stole nothing, try reading something other than the National Enquirer'

MDLNB
12-30-2016, 09:51 AM
MAKE THE WORLD SAFE FOR SOCIALISM.
I turned down a job years ago where on the interview when asked why the compensation offer seemed so low the reply was yeah but you will steal the rest form you expense account. l TOLD THEM I WAS NOT INTERESTED IN WORKING FOR THEM.

OBAMA-President is paid 400,000, which TRUMP has turned down. OBAMA-took 400,000 PLUS 85 MIL IN TRAVEL EXPENSE-PLUS, TEN TRILLION DOLLARS IN OVERDRAFT.
Will he AS THE CLINTONS DID steal the furniture as well?

Yep, the Clintons committed grand larceny, a felony. They admitted their violation and paid back thousands in restitution. But, Libtards do not believe that Hillary is a felon, or corrupt. And they totally ignore her violations of National Security. It's all a right wing conspiracy with Russia, to undermine Obama's legacy. OK....ha,ha.

janmcn
12-30-2016, 10:26 AM
He spent $10 trillion and left us ALL the bill... Typical black. Take and take...and then leave the bill for someone else.


Call you local congress person and ask for an itemized statement on the $10 trillion dollars. You do know that congress writes the budget and controls the purse strings.

While you have your rep on the phone, ask him/her what the annual savings will be when Medicare is ended, when Obamacare is ended, and when the VA and social security is privatized.

MDLNB
12-30-2016, 11:44 AM
Ignorant post !! How much do you think Trump has cheated the rest of us by not paying a single cent in taxes for years. The Clintons stole nothing, try reading something other than the National Enquirer'

He paid more taxes than you and probably most of the Villages residents combined. Oh, you mean Federal Income taxes? How much did he cheat you? If a person legally does not pay taxes, is that "cheating" you? I hope you are not that stupid to think that his filling out the tax form legally is a crime. You are "cheating" all of us for taking a deduction or exemption, according to your view of it. Let me know if you have a loss if you plan NOT to take credit for it. I'll come over and pat you on the back, and also laugh at you for being stupid.

Buffalo Jim
12-30-2016, 11:49 AM
He paid more taxes than you and probably most of the Villages residents combined. Oh, you mean Federal Income taxes? How much did he cheat you? If a person legally does not pay taxes, is that "cheating" you? I hope you are not that stupid to think that his filling out the tax form legally is a crime. You are "cheating" all of us for taking a deduction or exemption, according to your view of it. Let me know if you have a loss if you plan NOT to take credit for it. I'll come over and pat you on the back, and also laugh at you for being stupid.

You know how that tune goes " If the rich would only pay their fair share then all of the children could go to college for free " .

jimbo2012
12-30-2016, 11:55 AM
How much do you think Trump has cheated the rest of us by not paying a single cent in taxes for years. '

I'll bet you never ran your own biz,right?

You surely don't know how a NOL works with IRS

Chi-Town
12-30-2016, 12:00 PM
Well Lord CNM ---- you should check out exactly who the fat slobs are who run Snopes out of their apartment . You people will buy anything as long as it is A nti-Conservative .FVcking [unt !!

You know something BJ, every time I read one of your posts I hear ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa in the background. I wonder why that is.

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Buffalo Jim
12-30-2016, 12:00 PM
I'll bet you never ran your own biz,right?

You surely don't know how a NOL works with IRS


The Clueless on this site have never taken any accounting or finance courses . However they are all experts at anything to do with Corporate Taxes .

The Left prefers to remain ignorant concerning these subjects because it frees them to simply make things up and then believe them to be true .

MDLNB
12-30-2016, 12:43 PM
Libtards are still waiting for some of Obie's "stash" that was promised them when he ran for office 8 years ago.

Obama Stash - YouTube (https://youtu.be/_Ojd13kZlCA)

Buffalo Jim
12-30-2016, 12:51 PM
You know something BJ, every time I read one of your posts I hear ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa in the background. I wonder why that is.

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A " Walter Mitty " insinuation . Tell me what proof you would like to see to validate my life accomplishments and education .

My most recent monthly Investment Statements ? My resume backed up by those who worked with me ? Copies of my annual reviews ?

What would it take and of course you would be willing to do the same correct ?

AJ32162
12-30-2016, 01:08 PM
You know something BJ, every time I read one of your posts I hear ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa in the background. I wonder why that is.

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Mental illness, perhaps?

MDLNB
12-30-2016, 01:08 PM
A " Walter Mitty " insinuation . Tell me what proof you would like to see to validate my life accomplishments and education .

My most recent monthly Investment Statements ? My resume backed up by those who worked with me ? Copies of my annual reviews ?

What would it take and of course you would be willing to do the same correct ?

Wait, don't you know that it is your obligation to release your tax return to the public?

Buffalo Jim
12-30-2016, 01:14 PM
Mental illness, perhaps?

No just an MBA and 35+ years as a senior executive in finance including a few years as president and CEO of a multi-state Brokerage / Investment and Insurance Firm .

So hey what would I know compared to say a former school teacher or former government bureaucrat or social worker !

Please share with us your education and career background .

rubicon
12-30-2016, 01:23 PM
Those, like yourself, who either plagiarize from fake news sites and then don't even link to them or make pronouncements with absolutely no basis in fact, complaining because someone else actually took the time to fact check...perfectly exhibits the ignorance that got Trump elected.

I get why you types are leery of real fact checkers, as it simply shines a light on your lies...and you take umbrage that everyone doesn't just automatically believe anything you spew.

Sorry though, some of us are actually intelligent enough... to not believe known bull$hitters like him and yourself. :wave:

Dear Guest:

I am going to take an educated guess that you follow me on this forum ready to strike because you view civility and politeness as weaknesses to explore. And of course one remedy to cure this malady is to with like, kind, and quality.

Please define what "intelligent enough" means from someone who seems incapable of civil and logical discourse. One whose perpetual and continued arguments amount to name calling and character assassinations. What is it that you believe you contribute to this forum other than childish disruptions. I wonder if you get the giggles as you keyboard your responses to me and other posters? Or tell yourself what you write is "so "kool and the oft misspoken " so fun"? Perhaps you should look into a mirror when you write. Reflection is good for the soul

Personal Best Regards:

AJ32162
12-30-2016, 01:58 PM
No just an MBA and 35+ years as a senior executive in finance including a few years as president and CEO of a multi-state Brokerage / Investment and Insurance Firm .

So hey what would I know compared to say a former school teacher or former government bureaucrat or social worker !

Please share with us your education and career background .

Hey Buffalo Jim, I was replying to Chi-Town's post about hearing voices (the part highlighted in bold in that post) and not your post.

You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

Don Baldwin
12-30-2016, 02:01 PM
The Clueless on this site have never taken any accounting or finance courses . However they are all experts at anything to do with Corporate Taxes .

The Left prefers to remain ignorant concerning these subjects because it frees them to simply make things up and then believe them to be true .

Liberals...women and minorities...remain ignorant about just about everything.

No just an MBA and 35+ years as a senior executive in finance including a few years as president and CEO of a multi-state Brokerage / Investment and Insurance Firm .

So hey what would I know compared to say a former school teacher or former government bureaucrat or social worker !

Please share with us your education and career background .

So then...you know that fiat currency, fractional reserve banking, are theft... A loan is nothing but a ledger entry into your books yet you lay claim to real property if they can't pay your "interest" for lending them credits originating at the Federal Reserve.

Buffalo Jim
12-30-2016, 02:03 PM
Hey Buffalo Jim, I was replying to Chi-Town's post about hearing voices (the part highlighted in bold in that post) and not your post.

You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

Sorry but I don`t find anything that is in bold .

Not Walter Mitty ? I`ll have to check up on it .

In the meantime your insights would be greatly appreciated .

Buffalo Jim
12-30-2016, 02:07 PM
Not Plagiarized ---- copied from " The New Yorker Magazine :

“You are very kind,” said Mitty. A huge, complicated machine, connected to the operating table, with many tubes and wires, began at this moment to go pocketa-pocketa-pocketa.

It would seem that he was comparing me to Mitty . What say you ?

AJ32162
12-30-2016, 02:26 PM
Sorry but I don`t find anything that is in bold .

Not Walter Mitty ? I`ll have to check up on it .

In the meantime your insights would be greatly appreciated .

Try reading the highlighted and underlined text in post #52 and the reply in that post.

janmcn
12-30-2016, 02:27 PM
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE - Report: Obama family personal trips cost $85 million over eight years

WASHINGTON

As America’s first family enjoys its eighth and final vacation in Hawaii, new estimates put the price tag of the Obamas’ annual trip at $3.5 million or more.

In total, the cost of the the first family’s personal or largely personal travel during the last eight years comes to $85 million – though that is likely to climb to $90 million after additional records are released, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch based on federal government records.

The cost of Air Force One and other government planes as well as helicopters, cargo planes, armored cars, Secret Service protection and advance, communications and medical staff has led Judicial Watch to push for less personal travel.
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“The Secret Service and the Air Force are being abused by unnecessary travel,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said. “Unnecessary presidential travel for fundraising and luxury vacations on the taxpayers’ dime would be a good target for reform for the incoming Trump administration.”

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Thank you villagers. The family vacations wouldn't have happened without you. Cheers.

janmcn
01-01-2017, 01:24 PM
MAKE THE WORLD SAFE FOR SOCIALISM.
I turned down a job years ago where on the interview when asked why the compensation offer seemed so low the reply was yeah but you will steal the rest form you expense account. l TOLD THEM I WAS NOT INTERESTED IN WORKING FOR THEM.

OBAMA-President is paid 400,000, which TRUMP has turned down. OBAMA-took 400,000 PLUS 85 MIL IN TRAVEL EXPENSE-PLUS, TEN TRILLION DOLLARS IN OVERDRAFT.
Will he AS THE CLINTONS DID steal the furniture as well?


Obama might as well take the exercise equipment he uses daily with him, otherwise it will just be covered in cobwebs. Trump is turning the exercise room into a doughnut shop.

AJ32162
01-01-2017, 08:22 PM
Obama might as well take the exercise equipment he uses daily with him, otherwise it will just be covered in cobwebs. Trump is turning the exercise room into a doughnut shop.

I agree.:thumbup: Donald Trump probably won't have much use for Obama's Jungle Gym.:D

Chi-Town
01-01-2017, 08:44 PM
I agree.[emoji106] Donald Trump probably won't have much use for Obama's Jungle Gym.:D
Is that you Donny B?

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ColdNoMore
01-01-2017, 09:24 PM
Is that you Donny B?


Nope, just another heretofore closet racist, that now feels emboldened thanks to Chump...to ooze out of the woodwork. :ohdear:

Sandtrap328
01-01-2017, 09:50 PM
I agree.:thumbup: Donald Trump probably won't have much use for Obama's Jungle Gym.:D

Like The Villages has no place for motor scooters.

Warren Kiefer
01-01-2017, 10:11 PM
Very well stated. Hopefully all the posters who have been keeping track of the Obama's travel expenses for the last eight years are prepared to do the same for Trump. As he prepares to move to DC, while his wife and family remain in NYC, will he be using Air Force One every week-end to go back and forth?


The cost credited to Obama will be a drop in the bucket compared to what it will cost to keep the White house and Trump Tower secured !!!

AJ32162
01-01-2017, 10:14 PM
Is that you Donny B?

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Only racists like Chi-Town and CNM, who see the world through the the prism of race, would conclude that an ordinary piece of playground equipment would have racial overtones.

Don Baldwin
01-02-2017, 06:25 AM
Only racists like Chi-Town and CNM, who see the world through the the prism of race, would conclude that an ordinary piece of playground equipment would have racial overtones.

It's a case of "thou protest too much"...they KNOW we're right, so they preemptively strike out.

"Jungle" gym...get it? The simians use a "jungle" gym.

MDLNB
01-02-2017, 06:43 AM
Obama might as well take the exercise equipment he uses daily with him, otherwise it will just be covered in cobwebs. Trump is turning the exercise room into a doughnut shop.

Trump will be too busy to waste his time PLAYING. Unlike the libtard's need to bow at the feet of celebrities, the right does not give a rat's @ss about what a president eats or whether or not he exercises. He will only be there for four to eight years maximum, so who cares? If appearances mattered, why would the left choose someone like Hillary to champion their cause? Can't get much uglier than that.