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jebartle
01-02-2017, 01:48 PM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

jimbo2012
01-02-2017, 02:48 PM
IT would help if all the never Trump folks would indicate in their posts that they are NeverTrumpers.

That way the rest of the American that want the country to prosper can know how to reply to such silly posts.

Perhaps if you did follow MSM you would know what he & the 17 agencies said. :read::read::read::read::read:

MDLNB
01-02-2017, 03:32 PM
So that I can skip all the posts from CNM, JAN and Rocky would you all be kind enough to start them with "As a liberal, I ....." That way, I can skip over the whining and move on to the discussion.

jimbo2012
01-02-2017, 03:35 PM
Perfect

:BigApplause:



I think we need to stop responding to them and stay of fixing the problems

Don Baldwin
01-02-2017, 04:24 PM
Perfect

:BigApplause:



I think we need to stop responding to them and stay of fixing the problems

No...you keep telling them they're wrong...and one day, hopefully, it will sink in.

Hopefully before the country has turned completely 3rd world.

graciegirl
01-02-2017, 05:45 PM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

Your side lost. You are going to have to deal with all of your worries now like we did when someone was elected we didn't agree with.

jimbo2012
01-02-2017, 07:31 PM
Do you remember when they were so sure of

Weapons of Mass Destruction?


That was our intelligence agencies that got into that war.


So this issue needs proof, which as of today doesn't exist.

So it should not be taken a face value, yet

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-02-2017, 08:04 PM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

What he said was that he has information that others don't have that may cast doubt on whether the Russians were behind the attack.

I don't see where he ever said that he has any proof.

One thing that President-elect Trump has stated is that he's not going to let his enemies know what he's doing.

Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange says that the information that he leaked did not come from the Russians.

I think that a president-elect should tell the truth. If our intelligent agencies are wrong, he can certainly say that. I don't think that he's trying to protect Putin, he simply wants to know exactly what happened beyond any doubt.

In fact if he is going soft on Putin, it may be that he is hoping to ally with Russia in the War on Terror. I would imagine the USA and Russia together could defeat ISIS pretty quickly.

After all, we held our noses and allied with Russia in WW2. If not for that we might all be speaking Japanese right now.

ColdNoMore
01-02-2017, 08:15 PM
What he said was that he has information that others don't have that may cast doubt on whether the Russians were behind the attack.

I don't see where he ever said that he has any proof.

One thing that President-elect Trump has stated is that he's not going to let his enemies know what he's doing.

Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange says that the information that he leaked did not come from the Russians.

I think that a president-elect should tell the truth. If our intelligent agencies are wrong, he can certainly say that. I don't think that he's trying to protect Putin, he simply wants to know exactly what happened beyond any doubt.

In fact if he is going soft on Putin, it may be that he is hoping to ally with Russia in the War on Terror. I would imagine the USA and Russia together could defeat ISIS pretty quickly.

After all, we held our noses and allied with Russia in WW2. If not for that we might all be speaking Japanese right now.

Ummm, hint, when we allied with Russia in WW11...they hadn't been our Cold War enemy for 60+ years. :oops:

I am amazed more every day, at the people who are so under the spell of the Chump cult...that they make excuses for Russia's cyber-attacks. :ohdear:

It is so clear..that Putin owns Trump.

The question are..WHY & HOW?

And a lot of these people are the same ones who say they support our military.

Well, we obviously know now...that they are lying about that too. :wave:

MDLNB
01-02-2017, 09:15 PM
Ummm, hint, when we allied with Russia in WW11...they hadn't been our Cold War enemy for 60+ years. :oops:

I am amazed more every day, at the people who are so under the spell of the Chump cult...that they make excuses for Russia's cyber-attacks. :ohdear:

It is so clear..that Putin owns Trump.

The question are..WHY & HOW?

And a lot of these people are the same ones who say they support our military.

Well, we obviously know now...that they are lying about that too. :wave:

Your opinion again. No fact, just BS.

What did the Russians hack? They didn't hack the DNC. The DNC leaked the info. They didn't hack Podesta, he released his password. Wikileaks said that they did not get Hillary's emails from the Russians. So, no matter how much you cry like the baby you are, nothing you do will change the outcome of the election.

So, are you upset that Hillary's corruption has been revealed and you need someone to blame, or are you upset with the Russians for hacking us for the past 20-30 years or more? If so, are you also upset that we hack other countries every day?

OR, do you even know what you are upset about? And if that is the problem, why are you blaming Trump? It would be more Obie's fault than Trumps.

rubicon
01-03-2017, 06:48 AM
Do you remember when they were so sure of

Weapons of Mass Destruction?


That was our intelligence agencies that got into that war.


So this issue needs proof, which as of today doesn't exist.

So it should not be taken a face value, yet

Dear Guest:

Saddam was able to hide very large aircraft in the desert.

what one can say with a degree of certainty is that WMD were never found.

Twice over the years WSJ carried a story of a particular night when the Iraqi Republic guard relieved for a night Syrian sentries at the border of their two countries.

what we do know is that Saddam did use chemical weapons against the Kurds and his own people and was very capable.
Were we wrong for going into Iraq? I don't think so but I do agree we made mistakes during this effort among them dismantle Iraq's army.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin
01-03-2017, 07:40 AM
Dear Guest:

Saddam was able to hide very large aircraft in the desert.

what one can say with a degree of certainty is that WMD were never found.

Twice over the years WSJ carried a story of a particular night when the Iraqi Republic guard relieved for a night Syrian sentries at the border of their two countries.

what we do know is that Saddam did use chemical weapons against the Kurds and his own people and was very capable.
Were we wrong for going into Iraq? I don't think so but I do agree we made mistakes during this effort among them dismantle Iraq's army.

Personal Best Regards:

YOU don't KNOW for a FACT that ANY of that is true.

The government, through the media...lies...a LOT.

Taltarzac725
01-03-2017, 07:48 AM
Do you remember when they were so sure of

Weapons of Mass Destruction?


That was our intelligence agencies that got into that war.


So this issue needs proof, which as of today doesn't exist.

So it should not be taken a face value, yet

Yes. That was primarily the Republicans who said that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. We do have a WMD now. It is called Donald J. Trump. He can do great damage to the image of the US, the work against climate change, curbs on Wall Street corruption in DC, women's right to have control over the decisions she makes on her body, and many many other items. You are right us progressives are scared because Donald John Trump has no respect for the vision of the Founding Fathers and their insistence on checks-and-balances. They were keen students of history and knew how much havoc a demagogue can have on government. All I see in Trump is someone who will continue to lie, cheat and steal. But has far more control now to get away with a great deal more of this than he ever has. God help us.

dirtbanker
01-03-2017, 07:57 AM
Yes. That was primarily the Republicans who said that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. We do have a WMD now. It is called Donald J. Trump.

Let me try to put it in words you might understand:
I know you are not looking forward to that "Tampon" (Obamma) being pulled out. I suspect it is going to be a little messy, but in the long run it will be good for the health of the country.

Taltarzac725
01-03-2017, 08:02 AM
Let me try to put it in words you might understand:
I know you are not looking forward to that "Tampon" (Obamma) being pulled out. I suspect it is going to be a little messy, but in the long run it will be good for the health of the country.

How the hell to you say that. It will be good for Trump and his Wall Street buddies and a few other people who can laugh all the way to the bank. Most people will just feel like they bought an interest in Trump University.

What is that saying about people who ignore history will just see it repeated? Have you people read Trump's biography?

dirtbanker
01-03-2017, 08:08 AM
Yes. That was primarily the Republicans who said that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. We do have a WMD now. It is called Donald J. Trump. He can do great damage to the image of the US, the work against climate change, curbs on Wall Street corruption in DC, women's right to have control over the decisions she makes on her body, and many many other items. You are right us progressives are scared because Donald John Trump has no respect for the vision of the Founding Fathers and their insistence on checks-and-balances. They were keen students of history and knew how much havoc a demagogue can have on government. All I see in Trump is someone who will continue to lie, cheat and steal. But has far more control now to get away with a great deal more of this than he ever has. God help us.

How could anyone do any more damage to the US image than Obamma? The pu$$y bowed and apologized every chance he got...

You believe Crooked Hillary was going to curb corruption in DC? Talk about lie, cheat, and steal...

Founding fathers checks and balances...Obamma threw that $hit out the window more than 200 times...Obamma would like to personally re write the constitution!

Keen history...STUDENTS?

"All I see" is what the liberal media wants you to see.

Don't you mean "God help me continue to get my Wackadoodle check"?

dirtbanker
01-03-2017, 08:11 AM
How the hell to you say that. It will be good for Trump and his Wall Street buddies and a few other people who can laugh all the way to the bank. Most people will just feel like they bought an interest in Trump University.

What is that saying about people who ignore history will just see it repeated? Have you people read Trump's biography?

Start looking for a job...the Obamma Free Ride train is about to come to a screeching halt!

Don Baldwin
01-03-2017, 08:11 AM
How the hell to you say that. It will be good for Trump and his Wall Street buddies and a few other people who can laugh all the way to the bank. Most people will just feel like they bought an interest in Trump University.

What is that saying about people who ignore history will just see it repeated? Have you people read Trump's biography?

ALL presidents, ALL Senators, ALL Congressmen, ALL politicians PROFIT from their office...every one of them. It's WHY they do it. Money AND power.

Most "His-Story" is faked propaganda. Don't blindly believe a word of it. His-Story IS written by the winners...for the winners.

Look at how even American His-Story is changing. As the minorities...the "winners" take over as the majority..."our white history" is being replace by THEIR history. And guess what...we're being portrayed as the "bad guys". His-Story isn't static...it changes with fluidity as circumstances change.

Believe nothing. I know...it's VERY cynical...but it's the only way. The world is full of lies.

graciegirl
01-03-2017, 08:55 AM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

Do YOU know more about hacks than 17 agencies?

My money is on Trump who has the direct line.

We will see. I know I got more valid information from WikiLeaks than I did from any of the mainstream media.

G.G.

Rockyrd
01-03-2017, 09:25 AM
Do YOU know more about hacks than 17 agencies?

My money is on Trump who has the direct line.

We will see. I know I got more valid information from WikiLeaks than I did from any of the mainstream media.

G.G.


MEDIA ???

How about the total and complete Unjited States Government intelligence agency.

I will give you that they are not perfect, but to instill in Trump some kind of magic is a very serious mistake.

I also await what he "KNOWS" that nobody else does as he said......maybe he does but we will see...

If our Intelligence agency is 100% wrong on this or anything for that matter, what are we to do.....that would be your idols only source of information...or ....

Jim007
01-03-2017, 11:59 AM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????



According to him, he knows more about everything than anybody else! He's a moron!


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janmcn
01-03-2017, 12:37 PM
MEDIA ???

How about the total and complete Unjited States Government intelligence agency.

I will give you that they are not perfect, but to instill in Trump some kind of magic is a very serious mistake.

I also await what he "KNOWS" that nobody else does as he said......maybe he does but we will see...

If our Intelligence agency is 100% wrong on this or anything for that matter, what are we to do.....that would be your idols only source of information...or ....



Who is Trump going to rely on for intelligence when North Korea launches its first nuclear warhead heading for Seattle? His gut instinct?

ColdNoMore
01-03-2017, 01:20 PM
According to him, he knows more about everything than anybody else! He's a moron.

A flaming narcissistic, xenophobic, bigoted, misogynistic, thin-skinned with a 12 year old vocabulary....moron at that. :thumbup:

Rockyrd
01-03-2017, 01:27 PM
Who is Trump going to rely on for intelligence when North Korea launches its first nuclear warhead heading for Seattle? His gut instinct?

Well,according to GG, all he needs is HIMSELF !!!!

MDLNB
01-03-2017, 03:13 PM
Well,according to GG, all he needs is HIMSELF !!!!

Wow the three libtard stooges plus one/half conversing together.

Funny how Trump has said things recently that has entertained you. It's also REALLY funny how you all laugh and then later find out he turns out to be right. REALLY, REALLY funny that he was so right that he WON. And the three of you, plus one are still laughing in ignorance.

Hey, I'm laughing WITH you,......really....:a20:

rjm1cc
01-03-2017, 07:01 PM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

The first question is what did the agencies actually say. I do not expect them to give information that would hurt us but I would expect to see the head of each of these 17 agencies say that their agency suspects that Russia did the hacking or they do not suspect that Russia did it.

I do not think the public can rely on new reports which lack verification. I would hope that Trump has been given information form our governmental agencies that is more specific than we see in the press.

MDLNB
01-03-2017, 07:39 PM
According to him, he knows more about everything than anybody else! He's a moron!


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If that is true and he is truly a moron, then he must really be a libtard in disguise, and not really a Republican.

Don Baldwin
01-03-2017, 10:58 PM
A flaming narcissistic, xenophobic, bigoted, misogynistic, thin-skinned with a 12 year old vocabulary....moron at that. :thumbup:

Says the woman who wishes she were a man...

janmcn
01-04-2017, 10:22 AM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????



Today is the day that Trump informs us what it is that he knows that no one else knows, presumably including the president. On Sat night he told reporters he would tell them on Tues or Wed what that information is. Well nothing happened Tuesday, so that leaves today. Has anyone heard what time this announcement will be made?

JSR22
01-04-2017, 10:25 AM
Wow the three libtard stooges plus one/half conversing together.

Funny how Trump has said things recently that has entertained you. It's also REALLY funny how you all laugh and then later find out he turns out to be right. REALLY, REALLY funny that he was so right that he WON. And the three of you, plus one are still laughing in ignorance.

Hey, I'm laughing WITH you,......really....:a20:
I am laughing at you for believing his lies. he is a total fool.

janmcn
01-04-2017, 10:25 AM
If that is true and he is truly a moron, then he must really be a libtard in disguise, and not really a Republican.


Trump has been a democrat for 95% of his life. He has no allegiance to the republican party.

MDLNB
01-04-2017, 11:00 AM
Trump has been a democrat for 95% of his life. He has no allegiance to the republican party.

Then you should have voted for him, and at the very least support him now. :boom:

mickey100
01-04-2017, 11:11 AM
Your opinion again. No fact, just BS.

What did the Russians hack? They didn't hack the DNC. The DNC leaked the info. They didn't hack Podesta, he released his password. Wikileaks said that they did not get Hillary's emails from the Russians. ...

OR, do you even know what you are upset about? And if that is the problem, why are you blaming Trump? It would be more Obie's fault than Trumps.

No, you are the one spouting BS. You obviously read too many of the fake news sites. Get a grip - your little "facts" about Podesta's password and the DNC leak are not facts at all and are totally unproven. There is widespread agreement among cybersecurity experts and professionals that the leaks can be attributed to Russian intelligence actors. And trying to blame Obama for this? Nutty.

mickey100
01-04-2017, 11:15 AM
I am laughing at you for believing his lies. he is a total fool.

He IS a total fool. Too smart for security briefings, he knows more than the generals, more than the intelligence agencies, and these Republican fools buy right into it. I just have to shake my head at how stupid people are. And having no knowledge of the nuances of diplomacy, his rash actions could easily get us into a war.

MDLNB
01-04-2017, 11:56 AM
No, you are the one spouting BS. You obviously read too many of the fake news sites. Get a grip - your little "facts" about Podesta's password and the DNC leak are not facts at all and are totally unproven. There is widespread agreement among cybersecurity experts and professionals that the leaks can be attributed to Russian intelligence actors. And trying to blame Obama for this? Nutty.

And you know NOTHING about it. You are trying to tell those of us that have worked it and understand it, that you have a clue and you don't. Russia has been hacking us for years. So does China. SO does Pakistan and Iran. And many others attempt to hack us, including our allies. You say something is unproven, and then turn around like a 'tard and claim the Russians are responsible for hacking the DNC and Hillary and your email.

Like I said before, if the servers are using encryption and proper security practices then they are less prone to hacking. Hillary violated felony laws by using the Internet to transmit classified information. Instead of blaming the Russians, she should have been incarcerated and prosecuted for her felony violations. Execution would be fitting for her crimes.

Obama is an amateur and weak. He has no experience at leading and still thinks that "following" is the definition of leading, in his case leading from behind. He is clueless and should shut up and leave quietly while he still has a small iota of pride left.

MDLNB
01-04-2017, 11:58 AM
He IS a total fool. Too smart for security briefings, he knows more than the generals, more than the intelligence agencies, and these Republican fools buy right into it. I just have to shake my head at how stupid people are. And having no knowledge of the nuances of diplomacy, his rash actions could easily get us into a war.

YOu must be talking about Obama. Isn't he the one that is insulting and fighting with Putin? If anyone can get us into a war, is this inept loser that can't leave the White House fast enough.

Rockyrd
01-04-2017, 12:09 PM
Your opinion again. No fact, just BS.

What did the Russians hack? They didn't hack the DNC. The DNC leaked the info. They didn't hack Podesta, he released his password. Wikileaks said that they did not get Hillary's emails from the Russians. So, no matter how much you cry like the baby you are, nothing you do will change the outcome of the election.

So, are you upset that Hillary's corruption has been revealed and you need someone to blame, or are you upset with the Russians for hacking us for the past 20-30 years or more? If so, are you also upset that we hack other countries every day?

OR, do you even know what you are upset about? And if that is the problem, why are you blaming Trump? It would be more Obie's fault than Trumps.


Question for you...not having as much information as you obviously have...

1. Are you comfortable with a President Elect verbally attacking, and that it was, the United States Intelligence community and doing it in public to the world ? Forget whether you agree or not, or if he does because you, he and I have very limited information at this point.

2. Do you support our President Elect, again publicly worldwide, supporting Asange, while taking a defensive stand in support of Putin ? His party leader, Ryan, called Asange a voice for Russia.

Again, if you can, stick with the issue...not about the election, not about Clinton, simply the anti United States verbiage being put out to the world by the President of the United States in advance of taking office.

MDLNB
01-04-2017, 12:20 PM
Question for you...not having as much information as you obviously have...

1. Are you comfortable with a President Elect verbally attacking, and that it was, the United States Intelligence community and doing it in public to the world ? Forget whether you agree or not, or if he does because you, he and I have very limited information at this point.

2. Do you support our President Elect, again publicly worldwide, supporting Asange, while taking a defensive stand in support of Putin ? His party leader, Ryan, called Asange a voice for Russia.

Again, if you can, stick with the issue...not about the election, not about Clinton, simply the anti United States verbiage being put out to the world by the President of the United States in advance of taking office.

Questions back at ya:

Do you support Obama bowing down to our enemies and apologizing throughout the world for the U.S. being the best?

Do you support Obama disparaging the police and endorsing BLM and the Wall St. protesting cretins?

I'll tell you what, when you quit making the Russian hacking an excuse for Hillary the felon losing the election, then I will be glad to forget your ridiculous comments.

At least Trump is proud to be an American and does not blame his white mother for making him what he is. And as far as we know, Trump is not a half breed ******* son that hates America and loves Allah.

Rockyrd
01-04-2017, 12:40 PM
Questions back at ya:

Do you support Obama bowing down to our enemies and apologizing throughout the world for the U.S. being the best?

Do you support Obama disparaging the police and endorsing BLM and the Wall St. protesting cretins?

I'll tell you what, when you quit making the Russian hacking an excuse for Hillary the felon losing the election, then I will be glad to forget your ridiculous comments.

At least Trump is proud to be an American and does not blame his white mother for making him what he is. And as far as we know, Trump is not a half breed ******* son that hates America and loves Allah.

You certainly validated my opinion of you, so not surprised you didn't even make an attempt to response

I will answer your questions however. I did not support those Obama actions and I have already mentioned my previous names were Bucco and Rocky123. I recommend you use the search engine on here and you will see quite a few posts by me, and threads begin to say that.

I make no excuses for anyone..and if you do that search I suggested you will find my feelings on Hillary Clinton.

I am not much of a party guy.....I prefer to support good people doing good things for my country.

So, man up...answer my questions or whatever..

looneycat
01-04-2017, 12:48 PM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

trump is a russian tool bought cheaply

MDLNB
01-04-2017, 12:53 PM
You certainly validated my opinion of you, so not surprised you didn't even make an attempt to response

I will answer your questions however. I did not support those Obama actions and I have already mentioned my previous names were Bucco and Rocky123. I recommend you use the search engine on here and you will see quite a few posts by me, and threads begin to say that.

I make no excuses for anyone..and if you do that search I suggested you will find my feelings on Hillary Clinton.

I am not much of a party guy.....I prefer to support good people doing good things for my country.

So, man up...answer my questions or whatever..

Why? What difference does it make to you whether or not I agree with something the president does or doesn't do? It didn't matter to Obama.

Maybe I have become desensified by 8 years of the most incompetent president I have ever known. I'll leave the worrying about what Trump says on Twitter up to you. I don't do Twitter and since Trump is not on the payroll yet, I just don't care.

Sorry if my answer is not up to your specs, but I don't have much time for whiners.

Henryk
01-04-2017, 01:12 PM
What he said was that he has information that others don't have that may cast doubt on whether the Russians were behind the attack.

I don't see where he ever said that he has any proof.

One thing that President-elect Trump has stated is that he's not going to let his enemies know what he's doing.

Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange says that the information that he leaked did not come from the Russians.

I think that a president-elect should tell the truth. If our intelligent agencies are wrong, he can certainly say that. I don't think that he's trying to protect Putin, he simply wants to know exactly what happened beyond any doubt.

In fact if he is going soft on Putin, it may be that he is hoping to ally with Russia in the War on Terror. I would imagine the USA and Russia together could defeat ISIS pretty quickly.

After all, we held our noses and allied with Russia in WW2. If not for that we might all be speaking Japanese right now.

He hasn't shown proof of ANYTHING, never mind Russia.

Henryk
01-04-2017, 01:14 PM
Yes. That was primarily the Republicans who said that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. We do have a WMD now. It is called Donald J. Trump. He can do great damage to the image of the US, the work against climate change, curbs on Wall Street corruption in DC, women's right to have control over the decisions she makes on her body, and many many other items. You are right us progressives are scared because Donald John Trump has no respect for the vision of the Founding Fathers and their insistence on checks-and-balances. They were keen students of history and knew how much havoc a demagogue can have on government. All I see in Trump is someone who will continue to lie, cheat and steal. But has far more control now to get away with a great deal more of this than he ever has. God help us.
:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

Henryk
01-04-2017, 01:23 PM
According to him, he knows more about everything than anybody else! He's a moron!


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:agree::agree::agree:

MDLNB
01-04-2017, 01:47 PM
So, you libtards do not believe the same intel agencies when they said there was WMDs in Iraq, but now you believe them when they are reputed to having said that the Russians have hacked our election. And this has less proof than what they gave congress about the WMDs. Liberals are great at this stuff. I think everyone knows who the morons are..............the losers.

Jim007
01-06-2017, 11:43 AM
So, you libtards do not believe the same intel agencies when they said there was WMDs in Iraq, but now you believe them when they are reputed to having said that the Russians have hacked our election. And this has less proof than what they gave congress about the WMDs. Liberals are great at this stuff. I think everyone knows who the morons are..............the losers.



You talk about libtards! You reptards beleive anything trumptard says even if a couple of hours later he denies saying it. Now, it sounds like all you reptards know more about what the Russians are doing than our intelligence community. Trumptard could go on stage nude and say don't you just love my knew clothes, and you reptards would say trumptard, they're absolutely stunning. Once again you made yourself wonderful again. You're a bunch of reptards!


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jebartle
01-06-2017, 11:57 AM
So, you libtards do not believe the same intel agencies when they said there was WMDs in Iraq, but now you believe them when they are reputed to having said that the Russians have hacked our election. And this has less proof than what they gave congress about the WMDs. Liberals are great at this stuff. I think everyone knows who the morons are..............the losers.

sooo, do you discount anything that comes out of the CIA or FBI BUT you believe Julian A. and the Russians????? How do we get back to being Americans first and foremost! The hate that comes out of TOTV is disheartening to say the least. I know there is a light at the end of this tunnel, I just hope it doesn't take 4 years, God help us!

Rockyrd
01-06-2017, 12:11 PM
sooo, do you discount anything that comes out of the CIA or FBI BUT you believe Julian A. and the Russians????? How do we get back to being Americans first and foremost! The hate that comes out of TOTV is disheartening to say the least. I know there is a light at the end of this tunnel, I just hope it doesn't take 4 years, God help us!

Good post.

Listen, Trump's entire life.....all documented clearly.....showed and shows that a choice between HIM and anybody or anything will be made about HIM.

I think your post is great....it is NOT about the United States...it is about how he perceives this reflects on HIM...all his stements reflect that.

This how he is, and has been his entire life.

I, at one time thought...give him a chance...he will grow and maybe, he gets some jobs back..

But, as you say it is disheartening reading support for a President that disses the country without reason. Most adults would discuss this privately face to face rather than reveal the world how he feels about the USA (BAD) Putin (GOOD) Assange (GOOD).

A President, especially being brand new, normally gets the country excited about his plans, but then again this is a man who has never done anything for his country EXCEPT criticize it.


When asked if he was aware that Putin had people killed...Trump response..so what people die in the his country also.

Have you heard him, while carping publicly ever offer a word of encouragement for intelligence services or even to this country.

MDLNB
01-06-2017, 12:41 PM
You talk about libtards! You reptards beleive anything trumptard says even if a couple of hours later he denies saying it. Now, it sounds like all you reptards know more about what the Russians are doing than our intelligence community. Trumptard could go on stage nude and say don't you just love my knew clothes, and you reptards would say trumptard, they're absolutely stunning. Once again you made yourself wonderful again. You're a bunch of reptards!


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Nice try at turning it around when it was your side on here trying to convince everyone that the Intel agencies are 100% correct. But, like I said before you don't believe the same Intel agencies when they said there were WMDs. Make up your mind. I never said that I believed anyone. You are the ones making all the statements of absolutes. The point is that no one disputes what Wikileaks produced regarding the DNC's emails or anything coming from Hillary. SO, stop blaming Trump. The Russians have been hacking for decades, so get over it. I am not championing Putin or Russia. Neither is Trump. He said Putin is a better leader than Obama. So am I. Obama can't be blamed in that regard. He has never received any training and has never had a job that required leadership. Obama is weak, and everyone knows it. It is admirable that you wish to defend him. He needs it. He is weak.

So, you libtards need to quit crying. It's very unbecoming.

MDLNB
01-06-2017, 12:43 PM
Good post.

Listen, Trump's entire life.....all documented clearly.....showed and shows that a choice between HIM and anybody or anything will be made about HIM.

I think your post is great....it is NOT about the United States...it is about how he perceives this reflects on HIM...all his stements reflect that.

This how he is, and has been his entire life.

I, at one time thought...give him a chance...he will grow and maybe, he gets some jobs back..

But, as you say it is disheartening reading support for a President that disses the country without reason. Most adults would discuss this privately face to face rather than reveal the world how he feels about the USA (BAD) Putin (GOOD) Assange (GOOD).

A President, especially being brand new, normally gets the country excited about his plans, but then again this is a man who has never done anything for his country EXCEPT criticize it.


When asked if he was aware that Putin had people killed...Trump response..so what people die in the his country also.

Have you heard him, while carping publicly ever offer a word of encouragement for intelligence services or even to this country.

Is this the best you can do. Trump won, so get over it.

Rockyrd
01-06-2017, 12:50 PM
Nice try at turning it around when it was your side on here trying to convince everyone that the Intel agencies are 100% correct. But, like I said before you don't believe the same Intel agencies when they said there were WMDs. Make up your mind. I never said that I believed anyone. You are the ones making all the statements of absolutes. The point is that no one disputes what Wikileaks produced regarding the DNC's emails or anything coming from Hillary. SO, stop blaming Trump. The Russians have been hacking for decades, so get over it. I am not championing Putin or Russia. Neither is Trump. He said Putin is a better leader than Obama. So am I. Obama can't be blamed in that regard. He has never received any training and has never had a job that required leadership. Obama is weak, and everyone knows it. It is admirable that you wish to defend him. He needs it. He is weak.

So, you libtards need to quit crying. It's very unbecoming.

I certainly do not recall one single post saying what you are citing....none.

Nobody could know, for gosh sakes and anyone who questions something they are not even aware of is a fool.

Nope...the story is, and has been..one thing...

President Elect of the United States publicly for international coverage, mocking the United States intelligence community, prior to even being briefed. Then following it up by

A. telling the country to "move on" instead of investigating the hacks

B. Suggesting, not only do we move on, but we should discuss prior sanctions placed on Russia for actions and to support our friends.

C. Speaking positively of Putin and Assange in subsequent tweets.


There would be no story had he acted like an adult and after being briefed asked or questioned in person, face to face, man to man instead of he perceiving it as something "mean" about HIM. Country be damned.

MDLNB
01-06-2017, 01:00 PM
I certainly do not recall one single post saying what you are citing....none.

Nobody could know, for gosh sakes and anyone who questions something they are not even aware of is a fool.

Nope...the story is, and has been..one thing...

President Elect of the United States publicly for international coverage, mocking the United States intelligence community, prior to even being briefed. Then following it up by

A. telling the country to "move on" instead of investigating the hacks

B. Suggesting, not only do we move on, but we should discuss prior sanctions placed on Russia for actions and to support our friends.

C. Speaking positively of Putin and Assange in subsequent tweets.


There would be no story had he acted like an adult and after being briefed asked or questioned in person, face to face, man to man instead of he perceiving it as something "mean" about HIM. Country be damned.

Wow, I could almost see the tears in that post. If I press you a bit more, might you even modify your comment to reflect that Trump did not say anything positive about Putin or "Assange" but just said what the result was that we had stuff revealed that should have been discovered by the press? Or, instead of saying that Trump was friends with Putin, that he said Putin was a better leader than Obama? Which is true, of course. It won't be long before you finally admit that you are lying about what Trump said. Naw.......you will change the subject, just like liberals always do.

rubicon
01-06-2017, 01:21 PM
YOU don't KNOW for a FACT that ANY of that is true.

The government, through the media...lies...a LOT.

I said the event was written twice . Apparently no one knows for sure that is alive and willing to talk about it.

However we have learned that Assad had hidden his cache of poisons well until he used them on his was able to successfully hide people. We know Saddam was able to successfully hide aircraft in the desert and we know that Saddam openly used chemical weapon against the Kurds We know WMD can fit in a military truck and be transported easily.

All I am suggesting is that Saddam had plenty of time to moved every trace of his WMD given Bush's delay in moving forward with his plan to go into Iraq .

Washington people are forced to say no WMD because it is difficult to disprove a negative

Personal Best Regards

MDLNB
01-06-2017, 01:50 PM
I said the event was written twice . Apparently no one knows for sure that is alive and willing to talk about it.

However we have learned that Assad had hidden his cache of poisons well until he used them on his was able to successfully hide people. We know Saddam was able to successfully hide aircraft in the desert and we know that Saddam openly used chemical weapon against the Kurds We know WMD can fit in a military truck and be transported easily.

All I am suggesting is that Saddam had plenty of time to moved every trace of his WMD given Bush's delay in moving forward with his plan to go into Iraq .

Washington people are forced to say no WMD because it is difficult to disprove a negative

Personal Best Regards

Exactly. The one question that no liberal has been able to answer, other than denial is; if there were no WMDs in Iraq, how do they explain away those thousands of bodies in mass graves of people killed by gas?

Bog99
01-09-2017, 06:32 AM
We can eliminate 90% of the foolishness we call "politics" by following these first principles of Liberty:


"Liberty" is a poetic term for property rights.

Therefore there are only TWO KINDS OF LAWS:

- those that protect property rights,

- and those that attack property rights.

"Have the government do unto others as you'd have the government do unto you."

Bog99
01-09-2017, 07:09 AM
We can eliminate 90% of the foolishness we call "politics" by following these first principles of Liberty:


"Liberty" is a poetic term for property rights.

Therefore there are only TWO KINDS OF LAWS:

- those that protect property rights,

- and those that attack property rights.

"Have the government do unto others and their property as you'd have the government do unto you, and your property."

RichLou
01-11-2017, 06:29 AM
Give the guy a chance. Be positive. That is the answer to happiness.

hypocritehunter
01-11-2017, 06:38 AM
I said the event was written twice . Apparently no one knows for sure that is alive and willing to talk about it.

However we have learned that Assad had hidden his cache of poisons well until he used them on his was able to successfully hide people. We know Saddam was able to successfully hide aircraft in the desert and we know that Saddam openly used chemical weapon against the Kurds We know WMD can fit in a military truck and be transported easily.

All I am suggesting is that Saddam had plenty of time to moved every trace of his WMD given Bush's delay in moving forward with his plan to go into Iraq .

Washington people are forced to say no WMD because it is difficult to disprove a negative

Personal Best Regards


What a ridiculous post. Even George Bush and Dick Cheney admit there were no weapons of mass destruction. The only idiot saying otherwise is Sean Hannity and we all know what a nutjob he is.

jimbo2012
01-11-2017, 07:13 AM
What a ridiculous post. Even George Bush and Dick Cheney admit there were no weapons of mass destruction. The only idiot saying otherwise is Sean Hannity and we all know what a nutjob he is.


You sure about that, hypocritehunter is a wingnut troll

Don Baldwin
01-11-2017, 07:26 AM
I said the event was written twice . Apparently no one knows for sure that is alive and willing to talk about it.

However we have learned that Assad had hidden his cache of poisons well until he used them on his was able to successfully hide people. We know Saddam was able to successfully hide aircraft in the desert and we know that Saddam openly used chemical weapon against the Kurds We know WMD can fit in a military truck and be transported easily.

All I am suggesting is that Saddam had plenty of time to moved every trace of his WMD given Bush's delay in moving forward with his plan to go into Iraq .

Washington people are forced to say no WMD because it is difficult to disprove a negative

Personal Best Regards

You don't KNOW that ANY of that was true...you saw it on the "news" and the "news" is often faked.

Maybe...and maybe not. Again, you heard it on the "news".

Unless you're standing there watching...you don't KNOW what happened. You "know" what you were told by someone else. What agenda could they have?

Exactly. The one question that no liberal has been able to answer, other than denial is; if there were no WMDs in Iraq, how do they explain away those thousands of bodies in mass graves of people killed by gas?

Again...you saw bodies on the "news"...it could be true or it could be false. The government/media lies a lot.

We really can't know what is true and what isn't.

What a ridiculous post. Even George Bush and Dick Cheney admit there were no weapons of mass destruction. The only idiot saying otherwise is Sean Hannity and we all know what a nutjob he is.

In this we agree...he's an obvious shill.

MDLNB
01-11-2017, 01:35 PM
What a ridiculous post. Even George Bush and Dick Cheney admit there were no weapons of mass destruction. The only idiot saying otherwise is Sean Hannity and we all know what a nutjob he is.


I don't care what Bush or Cheney says now. I know what I saw when I was in Iraq. Thousands of bodies killed by gas. What would be your conclusion?

Don Baldwin
01-11-2017, 03:17 PM
I don't care what Bush or Cheney says now. I know what I saw when I was in Iraq. Thousands of bodies killed by gas. What would be your conclusion?

Bullsh!t...you weren't there when the Kurds "supposedly" got gassed...

"In 1988 Iraq turned its chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds in the north of the country. Some Kurdish guerrilla forces had joined the Iranian offensive. On 16 March 1988, Iraq dropped bombs containing mustard gas, Sarin and Tabun on the Kurdish city of Halabja."

The war didn't start until 1991.

My conclusion is you're making it up.

MDLNB
01-11-2017, 05:05 PM
Bullsh!t...you weren't there when the Kurds "supposedly" got gassed...

"In 1988 Iraq turned its chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds in the north of the country. Some Kurdish guerrilla forces had joined the Iranian offensive. On 16 March 1988, Iraq dropped bombs containing mustard gas, Sarin and Tabun on the Kurdish city of Halabja."

The war didn't start until 1991.

My conclusion is you're making it up.

Did I say I was there when it happened? I can't see anywhere in my comment where I said I was there when it happened.

The mass graves were unearthed and thousands of bodies were revealed, having been gassed. I asked a simple question; what conclusion would you derive from this information.

Don Baldwin
01-11-2017, 05:49 PM
Did I say I was there when it happened? I can't see anywhere in my comment where I said I was there when it happened.

The mass graves were unearthed and thousands of bodies were revealed, having been gassed. I asked a simple question; what conclusion would you derive from this information.

How do...YOU...KNOW...they were gassed?

You don't. You heard that. They could have been physically choked, banged in the head, starved, anything. They were in the ground for 3 years...hard to tell exactly how they died.

Topspinmo
01-11-2017, 07:11 PM
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

Amazing the DNC got hacked and all sudden it awful. Yea, awful that their dirty tricks got shown for everybody to see and now their not squeaky clean anymore (like they ever was!!). EVERY COUNTRY hacks (including us). how do you think China get all the airplanes that looks just like ours. EVEN North Korea hacks and 99% of the country don't even have electricity. This is not New Billy boy had big problem in NM with the Chinese stealing military secrets.

Where is the hearing into the DNC for burning old Bernie to the ground and pushing Hilary to top when she wasn't leading him?. where's the hearings on the DNC giving Hilary the debate questions before the debate? Now lets talk about throwing an election! Crickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MDLNB
01-11-2017, 07:14 PM
How do...YOU...KNOW...they were gassed?

You don't. You heard that. They could have been physically choked, banged in the head, starved, anything. They were in the ground for 3 years...hard to tell exactly how they died.

Ok, so our fellow military members were all lying, right? Is everything a conspiracy to you? I also saw a fuel tanker truck half full of gold bullion. Not that this has anything to do with it, or the subject. But, it seems that you are indicating by your denial that you don't believe that I was in Baghdad in 2003. I've been in one of Sadaam's palaces also.

Forget it. You just enjoy arguing, no matter what subject.

Don Baldwin
01-12-2017, 06:15 AM
Ok, so our fellow military members were all lying, right? Is everything a conspiracy to you? I also saw a fuel tanker truck half full of gold bullion. Not that this has anything to do with it, or the subject. But, it seems that you are indicating by your denial that you don't believe that I was in Baghdad in 2003. I've been in one of Sadaam's palaces also.

Forget it. You just enjoy arguing, no matter what subject.

Maybe...they've lied before. You trust them to always be truthful and honest? You're a fool if you do. The "military" has gone as far as EXPERIMENTING on people without their knowledge. They do/say a LOT for "their" agenda.

I'm NOT questioning that you were there. But you saw bodies that had been buried since 1988...15 years...and you BELIEVED the propaganda stories that they were gassed. Even though there is NO WAY to tell after all that time HOW they died.

I only argue when someone talks sh!t...

And you're "half full" tanker truck of gold bullion...well that's bullsh!t too. Water weighs 62 pounds a cubic foot...gold weighs 1,206 lbs per cubic foot. That's almost 20X heavier. A small tanker truck holds 3,000 gallons, that's 400 cubic feet. Half that, 200 cubic feet of gold weighs 241,200. There isn't a tanker truck made that can carry 241,200 lbs when it's designed to carry 25,000 lbs. So...your STORY about a tanker truck half full of gold bullion is ALSO bullsh!t.

Stop TRYING to lie to me...I'm too smart for you.

YOU may believe the government propaganda...I do not. Because I'm not so easily fooled. I was in the military too and I KNOW for a FACT that much of what we "hear" is NOT the truth. It's propaganda. You learn things when you work at the headquarters level. You see how "facts" are "massaged" to fit the narrative.

How about the stories of the Kuwaiti babies being tossed about and killed by the invading Iraqi's that wasn't true?

Governments lie to advance their agenda...remember that.

MDLNB
01-12-2017, 06:46 AM
Maybe...they've lied before. You trust them to always be truthful and honest? You're a fool if you do. The "military" has gone as far as EXPERIMENTING on people without their knowledge. They do/say a LOT for "their" agenda.

I'm NOT questioning that you were there. But you saw bodies that had been buried since 1988...15 years...and you BELIEVED the propaganda stories that they were gassed. Even though there is NO WAY to tell after all that time HOW they died.

I only argue when someone talks sh!t...

And you're "half full" tanker truck of gold bullion...well that's bullsh!t too. Water weighs 62 pounds a cubic foot...gold weighs 1,206 lbs per cubic foot. That's almost 20X heavier. A small tanker truck holds 3,000 gallons, that's 400 cubic feet. Half that, 200 cubic feet of gold weighs 241,200. There isn't a tanker truck made that can carry 241,200 lbs when it's designed to carry 25,000 lbs. So...your STORY about a tanker truck half full of gold bullion is ALSO bullsh!t.

Stop TRYING to lie to me...I'm too smart for you.

YOU may believe the government propaganda...I do not. Because I'm not so easily fooled. I was in the military too and I KNOW for a FACT that much of what we "hear" is NOT the truth. It's propaganda. You learn things when you work at the headquarters level. You see how "facts" are "massaged" to fit the narrative.

How about the stories of the Kuwaiti babies being tossed about and killed by the invading Iraqi's that wasn't true?

Governments lie to advance their agenda...remember that.

Friend, you do need help. Seek help, and I mean that with the best intention, not being derisive. You are very smart but very bitter and miserable. You will not live long with your current mindset.

Don Baldwin
01-12-2017, 07:12 AM
Friend, you do need help. Seek help, and I mean that with the best intention, not being derisive. You are very smart but very bitter and miserable. You will not live long with your current mindset.

My "problem", my "bitterness" is because I actually KNOW first hand about many of the deliberate LIES told by the government and spread by the media. I mean...I was THERE, at headquarters, participating in the planning. When the "news" came out...it was fabricated propaganda.

Do you REALLY think government propaganda ended with the fall of the Nazi's? Governments STOPPED lying to their people? Ah...ignorance...it truly is bliss.

My problem is...I know...and once you know something, you can't "unknow" it, and it affects your future thinking.

The government lies and women/minorities are destroying the country with lowered standards and quotas.

Those are pretty much my only "problems" I rant about. I live in paradise, surrounded by white people...what could be better? It's why I moved here. Hopefully, this is one of the last places to fall to diversity. Keep those prices high and shun them when you see them...it's our only hope to keeping our white oasis, our paradise. If we don't, it becomes just another Leesburg or Wildwood. Gritty, grimy, and dangerous.

Compare main street here...99% white...to ANY diversified city of almost 160,000 and tell me WHAT besides the demographics makes them so different.

Yes, a tangent...but you "asked".