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TheDude
01-06-2017, 07:32 PM
I dislike it so much. Leaves an aftertaste that lingers. What do you all think?

villagetinker
01-06-2017, 07:34 PM
We installed a Sears whole house filter and a Sears water softener, the resulting water is great, to the point that we do not buy bottled water.

Polar Bear
01-06-2017, 08:17 PM
We went with Nova. We are very pleased.

Hancle704
01-06-2017, 08:27 PM
A slice of lemon handles it for me.

SFuller
01-06-2017, 08:37 PM
Whirlpool Central house filtration system did it for us, doesn't need salt or additives, just need a plumber with experience to hook it up....inexpensive ....Lowe's off the shelf......

Edjkoz
01-06-2017, 08:59 PM
Mike Scot plumbing put a filter in for us and it works great

Carla B
01-06-2017, 08:59 PM
Water filtered water at the sink and the refrigerator has tasted good for eight years. Water from unfiltered faucets tastes really bad. IMHO.

Bonny
01-06-2017, 09:14 PM
We've been here 16 1/2 years. We always drink the tap water.

kellyjam
01-06-2017, 09:17 PM
We went with Nova. We are very pleased.


Another vote for Nova.:thumbup:

ColdNoMore
01-06-2017, 09:47 PM
I dislike it so much. Leaves an aftertaste that lingers. What do you all think?

To anyone that has had decent public water, or have taste buds that work...it's pretty bad.

Bottled water and a filter on the fridge (mostly for coffee) is the only water I'll drink...if I have a choice. :shrug:

retiredguy123
01-06-2017, 10:10 PM
I cannot understand why you would want to filter all the water in your house, when you can get filtered drinking water from your refrigerator or bottled water. Also, I don't see the need for a water softener. The Villages water is as good as any water I have ever had, and it is not hard water. Just my opinion, but I have never used a water softener or filter anywhere I have lived. Are you sure that the water filters you use are not a source for contamination? If you want to experience hard water, go to Saudi Arabia. I lived there for a year and survived just fine.

NYGUY
01-06-2017, 10:17 PM
I think you will find your answer in this thread: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/nova-filtration-water-filters-209096/?highlight=nova+water

birdiebill
01-07-2017, 07:12 AM
When we moved into our new home in Osceola Hills, we did not like the chemical taste of the water. We had the NOVA filter system installed and can now drink water from any faucet without any of the chemical taste that was present prior to the NOVA system. The water has no taste. The hardness is acceptable.

Cedwards38
01-07-2017, 07:24 AM
Seems fine to me. Do you have the same aftertaste issue when you make coffee or tea?

rubicon
01-07-2017, 07:39 AM
I have no idea if an expensive filtering system is really necessary but generally shy away from such claims. it would appear that providing clean drinkable water is a responsibility not taken lightly by the people regulated to protect our water sources and operations. However,

A poster cited another thread that spoke to the NOVA system. The OP displayed a photo showing the comparison between a new filter to the one being replace. The former filter is white and latter filter is brown. But what does that brown tinge represent and is it harmful? Medical people claim a drawback on drinking just bottle water is the benefit of minerals contained in water.

Like the vast majority of people living here we have a refrigerator with a water filter. We use it primarily for drinking . The cost to replace these filters has been drastically reduced especially if you buy on line. Any other uses are cooking with water and hygiene regimes

photo1902
01-07-2017, 07:53 AM
I have no idea if an expensive filtering system is really necessary but generally shy away from such claims. it would appear that providing clean drinkable water is a responsibility not taken lightly by the people regulated to protect our water sources and operations. However,

A poster cited another thread that spoke to the NOVA system. The OP displayed a photo showing the comparison between a new filter to the one being replace. The former filter is white and latter filter is brown. But what does that brown tinge represent and is it harmful? Medical people claim a drawback on drinking just bottle water is the benefit of minerals contained in water.

Like the vast majority of people living here we have a refrigerator with a water filter. We use it primarily for drinking . The cost to replace these filters has been drastically reduced especially if you buy on line. Any other uses are cooking with water and hygiene regimes

:BigApplause:

bonrich
01-07-2017, 08:00 AM
My vote goes to the Nova water filtration system. It is not a water softner. They consist of 3 large filters hooked up in the garage as the potable water feeds in, and they do a fantastic job of filtering out the smell and taste. Change filters every 12-15 months depending on usage. Do not need a water filter in our refrigerator any longer, so the cost of that filter is eliminated.

Rango
01-07-2017, 08:17 AM
We've been here 16 1/2 years. We always drink the tap water.



I agree.

justjim
01-07-2017, 08:24 AM
We've been here 16 1/2 years. We always drink the tap water.

Into our 11th year here in TV. I have definitely tasted a lot worse and we drink the tap water and filter water on the refrigerator.

Marathon Man
01-07-2017, 08:25 AM
I drink water straight from the tap. Here is a suggestion. Keep a picture or bottle(s) of tap water in the fridge. Drinking it cold reduces the unpleasant flavors.

Susancruiser
01-07-2017, 08:45 AM
we just love the Nova system and found the customer service to be top notch !!!!!:BigApplause:

Challenger
01-07-2017, 08:48 AM
Billions are spent yearly to produce clean potable water in the US . Is there any scientific evidence that expensive filtration systems significantly improve quality? I believe water softeners add salt content to the water. Is that a good health move?

How about facts-- Not a Nova informercial?

Chatbrat
01-07-2017, 09:33 AM
Don't need any expensive filter system- cut in a simple GE-whole house filter with the carbon element--change the filter every 6 months--haven't had to change the frig filter in 5+ years--simple way to go make sure to install a bypass when you're working on the filter--just in case

biker1
01-07-2017, 09:37 AM
Water softeners add sodium, in proportion to the hardness of the water, not salt. Salt is sodium chloride. The amount that is added is small - typically much less than the recommended amount of sodium in your diet. It is really a non-issue for most people especially if they eat any processed food (which typically have large amounts of sodium). Regardless, if the small quantities of sodium is still a concern, use potassium chloride as a regenerate.

Billions are spent yearly to produce clean potable water in the US . Is there any scientific evidence that expensive filtration systems significantly improve quality? I believe water softeners add salt content to the water. Is that a good health move?

How about facts-- Not a Nova informercial?

maureenod
01-07-2017, 09:53 AM
To anyone that has had decent public water, or have taste buds that work...it's pretty bad.

Bottled water and a filter on the fridge (mostly for coffee) is the only water I'll drink...if I have a choice. :shrug:

I'm with you, always drink bottled water everywhere. Chlorine will kill good gut bacteria. 80 percent of immune system is in your gut. Filters do not eliminate chlorine, only boiling for a few minutes.

VILLAGERBB
01-07-2017, 10:06 AM
DITTO!:thumbup:


To anyone that has had decent public water, or have taste buds that work...it's pretty bad.

Bottled water and a filter on the fridge (mostly for coffee) is the only water I'll drink...if I have a choice. :shrug:

biker1
01-07-2017, 10:28 AM
A carbon-block filter will remove chlorine at the 99% level, for the concentrations we have in The Villages (1.5 ppm) and typical flow rates from a kitchen faucet (1 gpm), when new. This will degrade with time but is easily monitored with chlorine test strips. KDF-based filters will also remove chlorine. The carbon-block filter I use (20"x4.5" Big Blue) costs about $60 and is good for about 2 years before I notice any chlorine leakage.

I'm with you, always drink bottled water everywhere. Chlorine will kill good gut bacteria. 80 percent of immune system is in your gut. Filters do not eliminate chlorine, only boiling for a few minutes.

BK001
01-07-2017, 10:34 AM
DITTO!:thumbup:

When we moved here, the first thing we did was make a cup of tea as we were unpacking. It tasted so strange to me I had to look at the package to see if perhaps I had mistakenly used a tea other than plain Lipton. Later, as I ran the tap, I thought I could smell chlorine or some other chemical.

We too had Nova install a whole house filter. The water, for our taste, is dramatically improved since the installation.

So, while I believe the water is "drinkable" without filtering, the issue for us was taste.

deano_hoosier
01-07-2017, 10:56 AM
How the tap water tastes in TV is somewhat a function of where your house is located. There are 4 different water source companies that serve TV with 3 of them proving potable tap water and the 4th just serves irrigation. Check the water quality reports of each of the 3 and you will see the water quality is different based on the source company. As for us, we drink the tap water, unfiltered, and it is probably not the greatest tasting water, but certainly drinkable. For more info: (the source is .... w.districtgov.org/departments/Utilities/utilities.aspx)

North Sumter County Utility Dependent District (NSCUDD) services approximately 46,138 residents.

North Sumter Utility (NSU) and Villages Water Conservation Authority (VWCA) services Districts #5, #6, #7 and #8 and a portion of District #9

NSU comprises 229 miles of potable water mains, 172 miles of sanitary sewer mains, 33 miles of sanitary force mains, 4306 manholes, 30 lift stations.

VWCA (irrigation only) comprises of 244 miles of Non-Potable water mains and hosts 1972 fire hydrants.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-07-2017, 11:01 AM
We've been here 16 1/2 years. We always drink the tap water.

I always drank tap water wherever I've lived. I think that if there are impurities in it, they help to build your immune system. I think that we are becoming weak because we want everything to be perfectly pure. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

We did have a whole house Nova system installed, but that was because my wife was getting a rash and though it might be the water.

OpusX1
01-07-2017, 01:00 PM
How the tap water tastes in TV is somewhat a function of where your house is located. There are 4 different water source companies that serve TV with 3 of them proving potable tap water and the 4th just serves irrigation. Check the water quality reports of each of the 3 and you will see the water quality is different based on the source company. As for us, we drink the tap water, unfiltered, and it is probably not the greatest tasting water, but certainly drinkable. For more info: (the source is .... w.districtgov.org/departments/Utilities/utilities.aspx)

North Sumter County Utility Dependent District (NSCUDD) services approximately 46,138 residents.

North Sumter Utility (NSU) and Villages Water Conservation Authority (VWCA) services Districts #5, #6, #7 and #8 and a portion of District #9

NSU comprises 229 miles of potable water mains, 172 miles of sanitary sewer mains, 33 miles of sanitary force mains, 4306 manholes, 30 lift stations.

VWCA (irrigation only) comprises of 244 miles of Non-Potable water mains and hosts 1972 fire hydrants.

This is correct. Depends on where you are.

BCEagle78
01-07-2017, 01:12 PM
We live in Labelle and find the water quality acceptable and drinkable. We do mostly drink water filtered from the refrigerator. We did not feel the need to spend extra money to fix a problem that we don't really think we have.

Meanwhile, since we moved here, we sure got lots of water filter promotion promotions/calls/mails, etc... I guess it must be a profitable business the way they seem to market it.

autumnspring
01-07-2017, 01:46 PM
Don't need any expensive filter system- cut in a simple GE-whole house filter with the carbon element--change the filter every 6 months--haven't had to change the frig filter in 5+ years--simple way to go make sure to install a bypass when you're working on the filter--just in case

If, you have installed or reinstalled the filter bypass, you do not have a filter in your refrigerator.
As to not changing the filter for five years. If, you or others have a filter in your refrigerator-YOU DO IF YOU HAVE A WATER TAP IN THE DOOR AND HAVE NOT INSTALLED A BYPASS, the replace filter now indicator works on expired time not the amount of water that goes through the filter.

TheDude
01-07-2017, 03:24 PM
Thanks all.

I went to some of the links posted and ended up with the NSU-2015-Water-Quality-Report. It shows a lot that I do not understand. I also do not know the difference in soft or hard water so I goggled it.

Just to mention the hardness of the water (as to taste, I don't even give my dog the tap water; if I don't like it I can't expect her to like it).

So, what I get out of everything I have looked it is this...


North Sumter Utilities report says the water hardness is 173 mg/L
Hard water listed as high is from 121-180 mg/L
Hard water is both pro and negative.

I don't know if this has an effect on the taste. I drink purified water and it tastes clean and leaves no aftertaste. Its the aftertaste that gets me.

I see Nova is written about a lot and all positive, I would just like to taste water cleaned from a Nova system before I spend the money. If it doesn't remove the lingering taste, then I would have to look into something else. If it works and makes the water taste clean, then it may be the solution.

google these...
districtgov.org/departments/utilities/NSU-2015-Water-Quality-Report.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_water

ColdNoMore
01-07-2017, 05:19 PM
Thanks all.

I went to some of the links posted and ended up with the NSU-2015-Water-Quality-Report. It shows a lot that I do not understand. I also do not know the difference in soft or hard water so I goggled it.

Just to mention the hardness of the water (as to taste, I don't even give my dog the tap water; if I don't like it I can't expect her to like it).

So, what I get out of everything I have looked it is this...


North Sumter Utilities report says the water hardness is 173 mg/L
Hard water listed as high is from 121-180 mg/L
Hard water is both pro and negative.

I don't know if this has an effect on the taste. I drink purified water and it tastes clean and leaves no aftertaste. Its the aftertaste that gets me.

I see Nova is written about a lot and all positive, I would just like to taste water cleaned from a Nova system before I spend the money. If it doesn't remove the lingering taste, then I would have to look into something else. If it works and makes the water taste clean, then it may be the solution.

google these...
districtgov.org/departments/utilities/NSU-2015-Water-Quality-Report.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_water

Kudos to you, for taking the time to research...and try to find actual facts. :thumbup:

In this day and age...that is becoming more rare. :ho:

Polar Bear
01-07-2017, 07:32 PM
Just a side note related to a few of these posts...

Water filters and water softeners are two separate beasts. If you get only one, you don't have the other.

FWIW, we have a filter. Hardness was not an issue for us.

cypress
01-07-2017, 08:25 PM
Whenever we wash our hands and splash water on the sink or faucet it leaves water spots that dry and can be wiped off which I attribute to hard water or limestone in the water.

Refrigerator filter makes it drinkable as far as taste but I have no idea if it removes the minerals that are leaving spots.

biker1
01-07-2017, 08:32 PM
Not really true. There are "hybrid" water softeners - they have a resin tank to do ion exchange and carbon and/or KDF to remove chlorine.

Just a side note related to a few of these posts...

Water filters and water softeners are two separate beasts. If you get only one, you don't have the other.

FWIW, we have a filter. Hardness was not an issue for us.

biker1
01-07-2017, 08:38 PM
They don't. You need a water softener to remove hardness buildup.

Whenever we wash our hands and splash water on the sink or faucet it leaves water spots that dry and can be wiped off which I attribute to hard water or limestone in the water.

Refrigerator filter makes it drinkable as far as taste but I have no idea if it removes the minerals that are leaving spots.

Polar Bear
01-07-2017, 09:17 PM
Not really true. There are "hybrid" water softeners - they have a resin tank to do ion exchange and carbon and/or KDF to remove chlorine.
Sorry, but if they soften AND filter, then they do both. But it doesn't change the fact that filtering and softening are two different processes, usually sold separately.

jimbo2012
01-08-2017, 07:09 AM
Let's talk spots, the spot you see is calcium, you can debate the water hardness here it is somewhat hard but not real hard.

Fact a softener only softens water it is not a filter, some have built in filters which are really not all that effective.

the spot or spotting you see is not all calcium, it has particulate matter (microscopic dirt ) attaching to it making it appear worse than it really is.

Remove the dirt the spots or spotting reduces about 75% visually.
Big difference.

When using the Nova Triple filter all that particulate matter is removed.

In fact it is removed to the point that only 7% of our customers opt for a softener.

Out filter sells for $575 installed, you can see if it meets your needs if not, you can add a softener.

We install a high performance unit only needing salt or the preferred potassium chloride added every 6 months, only back washing when needed.
The reason is our has a internal paddle wheel measuring the usage, thus saving salt/potassium and water.

We can add our softener for only $995,
*(others here over price theirs $2000-$8200, pretty shocking and that's without a filter)

One other point if you already have a softener any brand we can add out filter to it. We have done a lot of those add-ons


this is what a both look like together, softener on the left Whole house filter on right.

jimbo2012
01-08-2017, 07:13 AM
here's a pic of filters that were removed at 12 months, you can see all the dirt.

biker1
01-08-2017, 07:55 AM
Yes, that is correct - two different processes (ion exchange and redox/adsorption) to address two different issues (hardness and chlorine). Most of what I see installed by friends are "hybrid" water softeners, that remove hardness, filter sediment, and remove chlorine, such as the Sears Elite for about $600, the Water Boss 950 for about $600, and the Pegasus systems for a higher price. The Sears and Water Boss typically come from big box stores such as Home Depot/Lowes.

Sorry, but if they soften AND filter, then they do both. But it doesn't change the fact that filtering and softening are two different processes, usually sold separately.

jimbo2012
01-08-2017, 10:08 AM
Yes, that is correct - two different processes (ion exchange and redox/adsorption) to address two different issues (hardness and chlorine). Most of what I see installed by friends are "hybrid" water softeners, that remove hardness, filter sediment, and remove chlorine, such as the Sears Elite for about $600, the Water Boss 950 for about $600, and the Pegasus systems for a higher price. The Sears and Water Boss typically come from big box stores such as Home Depot/Lowes.

The water boss 950 clearly states "reduce chlorine taste and odors"
not eliminate, BIG difference. it is a 22,000 grain capacity unit 20" foot print.

The Sears unit is $600-$800 (depends on model) again only states "Improve the taste and odor"
and "Reduce the unpleasant effects of chlorine and large sediment"
Requires an Internet connection
Looking at the owners manual I see no filters that address chlorine or sediment, so not sure how that claim is made.
It says "no filters to replace" how do filter with out a filter?

both of those units exclude installation at that price.

Pegasus has no filter at their low priced unit and a small carbon in their higher priced unit. No sediment filter at all. Pegasus in not a manufactured brand it is a label affixed to a generic softener.

Nova is 32,000 grain ours will eliminate chlorine taste/odor I have a complete water test by an independent lab to prove that. It takes a 14" footprint so uses less space. It is made by Pentair a recognized brand.

For those that are unfamiliar with Nova and myself.

I'm a resident of Fernandina, my back ground is aquarium marine filtration for over 40 years, I not only know filtration but water chemistry.

Feel free to call for more info on the water issues that affect us here.

352.566.2649

.

biker1
01-08-2017, 10:31 AM
The hybrid systems use KDF and carbon. You know this as it has been previously discussed. They backflush to remove sediment during the regeneration phase - already previously discussed. I have checked the chlorine level on a friend's Pegasus system and it was undetectable, as are my own chlorine levels after going through a 20"x4.5" carbon-block filter. There are several ways to accomplish the same result.

The grain capacity of a water softener should be matched to the typical water usage. Why? Because the systems typically regenerate based on water usage but with a maximum time between regenerations. A system with a higher grain capacity than needed for the maximum time between regenerations will waste salt, as well as cost more than needed. One size doesn't fit all which is why manufacturers make different sized units. For a couple in The Villages, a 22,000 grain capacity for a water softener is fine and a larger capacity will waste money. A family of 6 would benefit from a higher grain capacity.

The water boss 950 clearly states "reduce chlorine taste and odors"
not eliminate, BIG difference. it is a 22,000 grain capacity unit 20" foot print.

The Sears unit is $600-$800 (depends on model) again only states "Improve the taste and odor"
and "Reduce the unpleasant effects of chlorine and large sediment"
Requires an Internet connection
Looking at the owners manual I see no filters that address chlorine or sediment, so not sure how that claim is made.
It says "no filters to replace" how do filter with out a filter?

both of those units exclude installation at that price.

Pegasus has no filter at their low priced unit and a small carbon in their higher priced unit. No sediment filter at all. Pegasus in not a manufactured brand it is a label affixed to a generic softener.

Nova is 32,000 grain ours will eliminate chlorine taste/odor I have a complete water test by an independent lab to prove that. It takes a 14" footprint so uses less space. It is made by Pentair a recognized brand.

For those that are unfamiliar with Nova and myself.

I'm a resident of Fernandina, my back ground is aquarium marine filtration for over 40 years, I not only know filtration but water chemistry.

Feel free to call for more info on the water issues that affect us here.

352.566.2649

.

jimbo2012
01-08-2017, 11:04 AM
You're entitled of course to your opinion, I respectively state that is incorrect, about the sizing.

KDF

Why we don’t use KDF is 55% zinc 45% copper

It adds copper to the water

It must be backwashed within the softener, if it not back washed with enough force it will not fluidize
If so it turns into a sold block and no longer works.

Must be backwashed at 10-12 gallons a minute using a fair amount of wasted water, most softeners don’t have that flow capacity. So it takes about 90 gallon to backwash effectively

The kdf containers are fragile, they can come apart with the softener.

one family has a website with their issues My Story: Heavy metal test proved that heavy metals contributed to oxidative damage - ToxicWaterSolution.com (http://www.toxicwatersolution.com/My-Story/)

It is expensive to replace every 5 years, no way to tell if depleted.
One local place quoted $1095 to replace it.

Not saying it’s a bad product we don’t think it’s as effective or safe as carbon.

Copper is absorbed through your skin. Copper in the shower or bath steam can be absorbed through your lungs.

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TheDude
01-08-2017, 02:55 PM
It takes a 14" footprint so uses less space.
.

14 inch footprint? I cannot see that in my head... are you talking the size of my MacBook Pro, or a 14 inch square?

jimbo2012
01-08-2017, 02:59 PM
Sorry for not being clear, a 14" square of floor space

biker1
01-08-2017, 03:27 PM
I prefer facts and data over biased opinions. That is how I was trained in undergraduate and graduate school. Most of what you say is unsubstantiated opinions. Perhaps you don't realize that a good portion of the country has copper pipes? As previously stated, backflushing is typically only a few gallons more for a hybrid water softener than a regular water softener. For example, the WaterBoss 950 needs 19 gallons of water for backflushing/regeneration, not the 90 gallons you stated. Pulling numbers out of nowhere and trying to generalize them is disingenuous. People should do their own research.

KDF filter media - Lenntech (http://www.lenntech.com/kdf-filter-media.htm)

Have a good day.

You're entitled of course to your opinion, I respectively state that is incorrect, about the sizing.

KDF

Why we don’t use KDF is 55% zinc 45% copper

It adds copper to the water

It must be backwashed within the softener, if it not back washed with enough force it will not fluidize
If so it turns into a sold block and no longer works.

Must be backwashed at 10-12 gallons a minute using a fair amount of wasted water, most softeners don’t have that flow capacity. So it takes about 90 gallon to backwash effectively

The kdf containers are fragile, they can come apart with the softener.

one family has a website with their issues My Story: Heavy metal test proved that heavy metals contributed to oxidative damage - ToxicWaterSolution.com (http://www.toxicwatersolution.com/My-Story/)

It is expensive to replace every 5 years, no way to tell if depleted.
One local place quoted $1095 to replace it.

Not saying it’s a bad product we don’t think it’s as effective or safe as carbon.

Copper is absorbed through your skin. Copper in the shower or bath steam can be absorbed through your lungs.

.

rexxfan
01-08-2017, 07:13 PM
Getting back to the original purpose of this thread, for what its worth, I found the taste of the water here (both in Summerhill where we rented before buying and in Winifred after) pretty bad compared to what I was used to. That's probably because where we lived in NY we had a well with really hard water and a bad iron issue and so, long ago installed both a softener (with a sediment filter ahead of same) and a high capacity RO system at the kitchen sink. The first thing I did here was to go get a Brita pitcher, and while that improved the taste, it wasn't a good long term solution. We used the pitcher at our rental, but when we moved into our home in Winifred I invested in the Nova system and found that the taste of the water was just as good as it was with the Brita with the added benefit of having it come out of every faucet. We originally did not add a softener, but did so later in an attempt to help with frequent skin rashes that we thought might have been being caused (or at least exacerbated by) the harder water here in TV versus what were used to with our softener system in NY. It did seem to help somewhat in that regard, but wasn't a cure, per se. In any event I do prefer the feel of soft water and appreciate the relative lack of hard water spots. The only thing we've not duplicated here yet is the RO system (which Nova also offers). The water tastes good enough now that we don't think we need it here.
--
Bob C

toeser
01-09-2017, 06:31 AM
The house we purchased in TV had a two filter system for the whole house. The first filter takes out sediment, the second filter is carbon and takes out smell and bad tastes. In addition, our refrigerator filters water. Our water tastes great. This system costs me about $10 per month in replacement filters. The sediment filter after one month is disgusting. I would hate to be drinking that stuff.

Our northern home has a Morton whole-house filtration system. This system has an estimated filter life of 10 years, because the system recharges like a water softener. Depending upon how much sediment is in the water, this can be set to recharge every few days to two weeks. It works great and requires less of my time than our system here in TV. However, it requires a drain for recharging, so would not be an option for our house here. Your situation may be different.

rlcooper70
01-09-2017, 07:06 AM
Our plumber put in the Whirlpool filter - might have cost about $400 all in - and the water is great. No problem at all. Before the filter I felt that taking a shower was too caustic.

maribob01
01-09-2017, 09:49 AM
Dove Plumbing has a filter they install quickly and easily in your garage on the wall. The installation, materials and labor were approximately $350 a year ago. The most worthwhile $350 we have spent!

mikeandnancy1112
01-09-2017, 10:00 AM
We have been here a total of 11 years and we have always drank the tap water. We do not see a problem with The Villages water at all.

jimbo2012
01-09-2017, 12:05 PM
Hi, I think if your read the water test reports from the county and one from an independent lab you may see why a Whole house filter is worth considering

golf2140
01-09-2017, 02:23 PM
We've been here 16 1/2 years. We always drink the tap water.

Agree

photo1902
01-09-2017, 02:59 PM
Buy a $20 Brita Water Filter from Walmart if you are concerned about the taste of the water. Since I don't drink from the shower, toilets or bathroom faucets, I don't need every drop of water in my house being filtered.

Polar Bear
01-09-2017, 04:42 PM
Buy a $20 Brita Water Filter from Walmart if you are concerned about the taste of the water. Since I don't drink from the shower, toilets or bathroom faucets, I don't need every drop of water in my house being filtered.
I'm no salesman for filtering water. My wife really wanted it. But since we had the filter installed, there is no denying a dramatic reduction in nasty, yucky (technical term) buildup of crusty, dirty deposits everywhere the water touches...toilet bowls, faucet nozzles, sports water bottles, etc.

It definitely impacts more than just the taste of the water.

photo1902
01-09-2017, 04:54 PM
I'm no salesman for filtering water. My wife really wanted it. But since we had the filter installed, there is no denying a dramatic reduction in nasty, yucky (technical term) buildup of crusty, dirty deposits everywhere the water touches...toilet bowls, faucet nozzles, sports water bottles, etc.

It definitely impacts more than just the taste of the water.

Fortunately, we've never experienced any of those problems. Maybe it's limited to certain areas. We're in the Village of Lake Deaton.

jimbo2012
01-09-2017, 05:16 PM
Fortunately, we've never experienced any of those problems. Maybe it's limited to certain areas. We're in the Village of Lake Deaton.

Well lake Deaton is the same as all the water in lake Sumter, it's loaded with nasty stuff, stop over my home for drink to taste the difference, we are around the corner

Villagesgal
01-09-2017, 07:55 PM
Don't know what part of the Villages you live in. Been here 16 years and love the faucet water. It's the same Florida aquifer water that water companies bottle and you buy in the grocery store. About as pure as you can get. Check out the yearly water quality report required by the FDEP. Possibly it's a problem in your pipes or faucets. By the way I've been a licensed Water Operator for over 30 years up north and here.

ColdNoMore
01-09-2017, 08:48 PM
Don't know what part of the Villages you live in. Been here 16 years and love the faucet water. It's the same Florida aquifer water that water companies bottle and you buy in the grocery store. About as pure as you can get. Check out the yearly water quality report required by the FDEP. Possibly it's a problem in your pipes or faucets. By the way I've been a licensed Water Operator for over 30 years up north and here.

Which Florida based companies, don't filter and purify their water before putting it into bottles? :confused:

I know it isn't Zephyrhills.

Where Your Water Comes From (http://travel.usnews.com/features/Where_Your_Bottled_Water_Comes_From/)

Zephyrhills
Crystal Springs, Florida

Based in central Florida, the brand takes pride in its state of origin, and rightly so, as its product derives from Crystal Springs, which is fueled by the Floridian Aquifer -- a massive water source deep below the state.

There the freshly arrived fluid is filtered, purified and tested before reaching the army of plastic bottles.

Bavarian
01-10-2017, 02:07 PM
Quality of water depends on where you live.

Polar Bear
01-10-2017, 04:43 PM
...It's the same Florida aquifer water that water companies bottle and you buy in the grocery store...
That is so wrong it's laughable.

jimbo2012
01-11-2017, 05:47 AM
under the villages the water comes from ONE aquifer.

RichLou
01-11-2017, 06:24 AM
A whole house water filtration system is the only way to go. The chlorine is very unhealthy to drink and to shower or bathe in.

jimbo2012
01-11-2017, 06:40 AM
If you look at your annual water report there are two by products from the chlorine disinfection process.

Google TTHM & haloacidic acid.

there is also Nitrate from all the fertilizers and the surrounding areas have septic systems and other soil erosions work their way into the ground.

these all are present in the aquifer

this is all stated on your report.

None of which have anything to do with softening,

this relates to filtration/purification to remove them


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jimbo2012
01-11-2017, 07:04 AM
Here a pic of a set of filters removed the other day 13 months use

The amount of particulate matter in water is very high here.

Polar Bear
01-11-2017, 07:28 PM
under the villages the water comes from ONE aquifer.
There is ONE aquifer. Absolutely correct.

But there is variability in water quality from area to area within that aquifer. And there is a big difference between water as it exists in the aquifer and water bottled by any reputable water-bottling company.

duhbear
01-12-2017, 06:03 PM
We have a water softener and the water tastes good out of the tap. We have a water filter on the refrigerator and that tastes great!

mainecactus
01-13-2017, 10:02 AM
I've used All About Water and Solar for seven years. Very good water.

2BNTV
01-13-2017, 02:31 PM
I dislike it so much. Leaves an aftertaste that lingers. What do you all think?

Yes the short answer and it is drinkable but I prefer to have a water filtration system.

Two years ago, I had installed the NOVA water filtration system and my water taste great! Cost is $500 and the yearly replacement of filters, about $100.

Personally, I want to cleanest and clearest water coming out of my tap but that's me.........

OhioBuckeye
01-13-2017, 09:12 PM
I think TV drinking water has to much chlorine in it, it smells like bleach. I just hope we don't end up finding out it's a health hazard. I know water is expensive in Florida, but our drinking water isn't worth drinking. I had to filter mine so now it just adds to the expense of our expensive water.

big guy
01-13-2017, 11:54 PM
Unless I am reading this wrong, 'buckeye' posted this. I am from Ohio too and we drank Lake Erie water. Not too bad except August when the algae bloomed. There is nothing wrong with the water here.

jimbo2012
01-14-2017, 05:25 AM
There is nothing wrong with the water here.

Once a year you get an annual drinking water report, if you read it correctly there are 4 elements listed there you should Google.

After doing so it's impossible to state there is nothing wrong. :shrug:

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eremite06
01-14-2017, 10:53 AM
Yes the short answer and it is drinkable but I prefer to have a water filtration system.

Two years ago, I had installed the NOVA water filtration system and my water taste great! Cost is $500 and the yearly replacement of filters, about $100.

Personally, I want to cleanest and clearest water coming out of my tap but that's me.........

Same here.:beer3:

Pat_RI
01-14-2017, 03:38 PM
Same here.:beer3:



I think I'm going the Nova route too I've never had water that tastes so bad. Can only help.


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Ravens Fan
01-16-2017, 07:27 AM
I'm with you, always drink bottled water everywhere. Chlorine will kill good gut bacteria. 80 percent of immune system is in your gut. Filters do not eliminate chlorine, only boiling for a few minutes.

Maureenod, I worked in a power plant where we made demineralized water for the steam boilers and turbine. It was essential to remove the chlorine first before the demineralized process started and we used Charcoal to do this. Charcoal Filters are a very effective way to remove chlorine.

Ravens Fan
01-16-2017, 07:29 AM
I think TV drinking water has to much chlorine in it, it smells like bleach. I just hope we don't end up finding out it's a health hazard. I know water is expensive in Florida, but our drinking water isn't worth drinking. I had to filter mine so now it just adds to the expense of our expensive water.

The chlorine level the villages has in their water is two times more than I keep my pool chlorine level at.

Ravens Fan
01-16-2017, 07:33 AM
Quality of water depends on where you live.

I am also from St. Mary's County.

LSchaef2
01-16-2017, 08:13 AM
We have the whole house filter from Mike Scott Plumbing and live it. The carbon filter removes all the unhealthy chemicals and the softer requires no maintainence. The carbon filter will last five years and you are only replacing a sediment filter every six months (easy to do).

roeslerb
01-16-2017, 08:28 AM
My taste buds detect chlorine. I know that a certain level of chlorine is necessary to ensure that the water is free of bacteria. When we moved to our second home we were hoping that the chlorine level would be acceptable. It wasn't. The water utility needs to do a better job of keeping the chlorine level under 10 ppm for all users which is acceptable for drinking.
An inexpensive fix is to fill two large plastic pitchers and put them in the refrigerator. 24 hours in the fridge will allow the chlorine to pass through the plastic leaving water that tastes pretty good. Just alternate the pitchers and you have good cold drinking water. The concept is the same as when you left the water out for a day before you put your goldfish in the water. The chlorine would kill the fish.

OhioBuckeye
01-16-2017, 08:33 AM
The water when you run it through a filter taste OK, but right from the tap nobody can tell me they can't taste & smell the strong stench of chlorine. To smell chlorine as bad as I can smell it, can't be good for us. As expensive as water is here you would think TV could do a better job of giving us better water. Is the rest of Florida's water like ours?

OhioBuckeye
01-16-2017, 08:44 AM
To anyone that has had decent public water, or have taste buds that work...it's pretty bad.

Bottled water and a filter on the fridge (mostly for coffee) is the only water I'll drink...if I have a choice. :shrug:

THE DUDE I totally agree with you! Just can't believe TV board will do away with some programs because a hand full of people complain but when something like this comes up, TV won't acknowledge it because they're making lots of money off of us. To me this can't be healthy & I hope someone from TV board doesn't come back & tell us how great our water is. There has to be a long term side effect to having this much chlorine in the water for us to consume. To many people are complaining about it!

MaxCat
01-16-2017, 09:10 AM
Because of the history of phosphate mining in Florida (top producer of phosphate) and the history of spills and contamination to the aquifer . . .

Just a few links to check out:

Sinkhole at phosphate plant dumps 215 million gallons of acidic water into Floridan aquifer | Blogs (http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/09/16/sinkhole-at-phosphate-plant-dumps-215-million-gallons-of-acidic-water-into-floridian-aquifer#)
Federal suit over 'slightly radioactive' water seeping into aquifer (http://www.news-press.com/story/news/2016/09/18/slightly-radioactive-water-seeping-into-aquifer-sinkhole/90617996/)
Rate Of Hazardous Spills In Florida Remains Steady – WUFT News (http://www.wuft.org/news/2016/12/23/rate-of-hazardous-spills-in-florida-remains-steady/)
Phosphate Strip Mining Central Florida (https://www.flmines.com/)
Phosphate Mines - Mining and Mitigation, Florida DEP (http://www.dep.state.fl.us/water/mines/manpho.htm)
http://health.wusf.usf.edu/post/qa-polluted-water-sinkhole-mosaic-fertilizer-plant#stream/0
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2014/01/30/14190/epa-abandons-major-radiation-cleanup-florida-despite-cancer-concerns
http://fluoridealert.org/news/sinkholes-and-stacks-neighbors-claim-floridas-phosphate-mines-are-a-hazard/

slipcovers
01-16-2017, 09:34 AM
THE DUDE I totally agree with you! Just can't believe TV board will do away with some programs because a hand full of people complain but when something like this comes up, TV won't acknowledge it because they're making lots of money off of us. To me this can't be healthy & I hope someone from TV board doesn't come back & tell us how great our water is. There has to be a long term side effect to having this much chlorine in the water for us to consume. To many people are complaining about it!

TV is not responsible for the bad water, and is not regulated by TV. It is bad all over Florida. We carry spring water with us at all times, even taking a bottle into restaurants.

Guitarman1951
01-16-2017, 09:51 AM
Kiley & Sons plumbing put in a whole house filter system for $400 or so and I installed a 3M under the counter water filter system $50 under the kitchen sink(easy to install for any do it your selfer). Filters last 4 months on whole house system and are relatively cheap to buy a stock of filters online. The under counter filter lasts about 6 months and cost about $30 each at Lowes. We love how much better the water tastes now.

boynurse484
01-16-2017, 10:10 AM
We also went with Nova. Could not believe the huge amount of crud that was in the 3 filter system that we would have been drinking. Huge improvement noted in the taste.:icon_wink:

Dukester
01-16-2017, 10:19 AM
I dislike it so much. Leaves an aftertaste that lingers. What do you all think?
I drink my scotch straight now, no splash for me.

jimbo2012
01-21-2017, 06:08 PM
Kiley & Sons plumbing put in a whole house filter system for $400 how much better the water tastes now.

If you look at earlier posts you can see the difference with the Nova System,

You're comparing apples and oranges.

ettesisters17
01-23-2017, 07:03 AM
Look I clean houses the water is not fit to drink but your largest organ is your skin! are you kidding me... Do yourself a favor and google this YOU don't need to toss $400 away to the wind... The WaterBoss You might have to preorder but it is worth the money starting at $400.00. Half price and Half the size. And a GE whole house water filter $50.00 it is about the size of a loaf of Pepperidge farm bread. You want a filter with a solid cartridge not accordian filter. You can have it installed by one of the Lowes or Home Depot installers. They will stand behind the product that way. Word to the wise, YOU have two people in your home, how often do you wash dishes or cloths? YOU only need the small softener, have it set where you feel the water is soapy then dial it back so it isn't so soft. You will use half of the soap product and save the value of your home in doing so. No more scale and buildup in the shower except for soap. I don't know if I would even drink the water then. If you want to know why message me privately.

Jdmiata
01-23-2017, 08:12 AM
Certainly the water is drinkable. It's just different from the water "back home " . Water is slightly different all over the country.

cmj1210
01-23-2017, 08:25 PM
We just had our Nova filter installed & I can now drink my water without the awful taste. Plus no odor. Def worth the money. I am a happy customer. [emoji6]


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surgees
01-23-2017, 08:40 PM
We just had our Nova filter installed & I can now drink my water without the awful taste. Plus no odor. Def worth the money. I am a happy customer. [emoji6]


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Likewise, just had our NOVA installed last week. Have already noticed major improvements in taste, odor and skin condition! Very happy customers! :BigApplause:

gene21fan
01-23-2017, 11:58 PM
We went with Nova also We are very pleased great system.

jimbo2012
01-24-2017, 08:59 AM
Thank you for your support, happy you're happy with our Nova system.

Over 800 installed.




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obikato
01-24-2017, 01:26 PM
We had to put in a whole house water filter; the smell was so bad, even in our shower. Scott Plumbing did a simple system for us that has worked great. I wonder that those who have no problems get their water differently than the new homes south of 466A because anyone I know near us has had to put in water filter systems.

Villagesgal
01-30-2017, 07:36 AM
I live in Bellaire and our water is great. No aftertaste at all. If you're in a new home could be the taste of plastic from the new plastic water pipes. If it us it will dissipate after time.