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jebartle
01-08-2017, 08:15 AM
Where are you in this matter. Surely, you can't keep blaming the media and liberals. We are Americans, do you get this now! Is Trump's ego that important that he can't admit that Russia ' s interest in our election favored Trump and hurt Clinton. ADMIT IT!
hypocritehunter
01-08-2017, 08:24 AM
If he admits it he will be admitting Putin helped getting him elected. Republicans can say "it had no effect" but we know that is a total lie. We know it was a factor, how big a factor is up for debate but it was a factor. No honest person would say otherwise.
Taltarzac725
01-08-2017, 08:43 AM
If he admits it he will be admitting Putin helped getting him elected. Republicans can say "it had no effect" but we know that is a total lie. We know it was a factor, how big a factor is up for debate but it was a factor. No honest person would say otherwise.
Yes but honesty does not seem to be much of a virtue to many of the Republicans heading into the Oval Office. There are some good guys in the mix though. I wonder how long Mattis will last among these people?
ColdNoMore
01-08-2017, 08:45 AM
Where are you in this matter. Surely, you can't keep blaming the media and liberals. We are Americans, do you get this now! Is Trump's ego that important that he can't admit that Russia ' s interest in our election favored Trump and hurt Clinton. ADMIT IT!
He doesn't dare admit it, given that his ego can't handle anything that is close to being the truth.
That and the fact that we will eventually find out how much money Putin has loaned him, through third party intermediaries...will fully explain his being such a sycophant for Putin and Russia. :wave:
MDLNB
01-08-2017, 05:29 PM
Where did Russia's interference hurt Hillary? Give me some fact, not just conjecture.
Rockyrd
01-08-2017, 05:35 PM
Where did Russia's interference hurt Hillary? Give me some fact, not just conjecture.
Well, seems to me the ENTIRE Trump campaign was a DAILY mock fest of the emails made public.
NOT speaking of those from the Clinton server, but those from Podesta.
The campaign as a road show of...mock the press, point fingers at them, isolate a few he didn't like, then cheer for the wall, break into a chant about Crooked Hillary, whikecTrump did a stand up about the latest drip of hacked emails. Actually, except for a few very general comments made to be crowd pleasers, not much about issues.
rustyp
01-08-2017, 06:42 PM
Where are you in this matter. Surely, you can't keep blaming the media and liberals. We are Americans, do you get this now! Is Trump's ego that important that he can't admit that Russia ' s interest in our election favored Trump and hurt Clinton. ADMIT IT!
I do get part of this - "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
MDLNB
01-09-2017, 04:46 AM
Well, seems to me the ENTIRE Trump campaign was a DAILY mock fest of the emails made public.
NOT speaking of those from the Clinton server, but those from Podesta.
The campaign as a road show of...mock the press, point fingers at them, isolate a few he didn't like, then cheer for the wall, break into a chant about Crooked Hillary, whikecTrump did a stand up about the latest drip of hacked emails. Actually, except for a few very general comments made to be crowd pleasers, not much about issues.
So, you are powerless to prove the point. I thought so. No one has proven that Russia did anything that we haven't done or our libtard media has not done. As a matter of fact, no votes were hacked. And no one admits that anything that Russia did caused them to change their vote.
So, Russia is just an excuse for losers.
The first step to libtard recovery is to admit they are losers.
All together now, say it. Say, I am a libtard and I am a loser. Remember, you want to heal from your malady.
rubicon
01-09-2017, 05:30 AM
If it was reported accurately and if I read it correctly one aspect of this often spoken topic has to do with the DNC. when intelligence officers approached them to inspect the alleged computer(s) hacked the DNC refused to turn them over.
This action begs the question why? One possibility is that there was more on that computer that the DNC did not want revealed. Another possibility is that Hillary and company were still shell shocked over the hacked e-mails had been made public and hence gun shy.
I am not defending Trump nor Putin. Putin is obviously positioning himself to make to remake Russia relevant again.
As to Trump ties to Putin is it a surprise that in this global world of trade people in every industry and nation know one another have conducted business with one another, etc
However, the most obvious but most ignored issue regarding the alleged Russian hack is the relevation of the exposed e-mails to the contempt shown by Hillary and company for Christians, especially Catholics , for people in general and the audacity they had to work in unison to stop Bernie Sanders.
Think about it, a 70+ ex-hippy that had accomplished little was a real threat to Hillary Clinton. And why the anti-Catholic anti-christian position? Because as to their social justice homosexual agenda they fear Christian morality and beliefs
Indeed Putin's actions should continue to be under close scrutiny, and Trump's position toward Russia made clear.
However let's not lose sight of the fact that people voted because they rejected the progressive agenda and believed the nation was headed in the wrong direction. Our history tells us that these changes in course direction have happened in the past and the past is prologue to the future.
Personal Best Regards:
MDLNB
01-09-2017, 05:37 AM
Libtards are led so easily by those better than them, if saying the liberal media and socialist politicians are better.
Libtards want desperately to feel vindicated for backing the historically worst candidate in history. That's a fact.
Libtards NEED Trump to admit that he had help by Russia winning when he did NOT.
Libtards NEED to believe that Hillary was not filthy dirty.
Libtards are in denial, because they cannot believe that they lost and they lost because Trump used the same dirty tactics that the left has used for several elections to win.
And now the NEED/NEED Trump to say something that will vindicate their disastrous defeat.
hypocritehunter
01-09-2017, 06:23 AM
So, you are powerless to prove the point. I thought so. No one has proven that Russia did anything that we haven't done or our libtard media has not done. As a matter of fact, no votes were hacked. And no one admits that anything that Russia did caused them to change their vote.
So, Russia is just an excuse for losers.
The first step to libtard recovery is to admit they are losers.
All together now, say it. Say, I am a libtard and I am a loser. Remember, you want to heal from your malady.
Ya, I remember when I was in third grade.
hypocritehunter
01-09-2017, 06:32 AM
If it was reported accurately and if I read it correctly one aspect of this often spoken topic has to do with the DNC. when intelligence officers approached them to inspect the alleged computer(s) hacked the DNC refused to turn them over.
This action begs the question why? One possibility is that there was more on that computer that the DNC did not want revealed. Another possibility is that Hillary and company were still shell shocked over the hacked e-mails had been made public and hence gun shy.
I am not defending Trump nor Putin. Putin is obviously positioning himself to make to remake Russia relevant again.
As to Trump ties to Putin is it a surprise that in this global world of trade people in every industry and nation know one another have conducted business with one another, etc
However, the most obvious but most ignored issue regarding the alleged Russian hack is the relevation of the exposed e-mails to the contempt shown by Hillary and company for Christians, especially Catholics , for people in general and the audacity they had to work in unison to stop Bernie Sanders.
Think about it, a 70+ ex-hippy that had accomplished little was a real threat to Hillary Clinton. And why the anti-Catholic anti-christian position? Because as to their social justice homosexual agenda they fear Christian morality and beliefs
Indeed Putin's actions should continue to be under close scrutiny, and Trump's position toward Russia made clear.
However let's not lose sight of the fact that people voted because they rejected the progressive agenda and believed the nation was headed in the wrong direction. Our history tells us that these changes in course direction have happened in the past and the past is prologue to the future.
Personal Best Regards:
I love the part where you say "I'm not defending Putin". No, you are blaming the victim. Democrats were the victim of a crime and republicans were the beneficiary of the crime. Now republicans are trying to convince us all that it didn't help them at all. Move on folks there is nothing to see. We don't need to investigate this. We only need to make sure it doesn't happen again. Shameful.
MDLNB
01-09-2017, 07:06 AM
I love the part where you say "I'm not defending Putin". No, you are blaming the victim. Democrats were the victim of a crime and republicans were the beneficiary of the crime. Now republicans are trying to convince us all that it didn't help them at all. Move on folks there is nothing to see. We don't need to investigate this. We only need to make sure it doesn't happen again. Shameful.
You've been asked many times to provide one shred of evidence that Russia's hacking had any effect on the election. You can't provide any proof, other than stupid innuendos and suppositions. If you didn't just watch your re-runs of Springer's best of the trailer trash episodes, you might have seen Republicans demanding action and investigation on the Russian hacking.
Your problem is that you listen to Obie and other libtard losers squeal that they were robbed.
Hillary lost because of Hillary and nothing Obama could do or say convinced anyone that Hillary was clean or that his policies that she was running on were successful.
Russia did not effect the election. Did Russia hack us? Of course, and they have been hacking for over 40 years. That's old news and that's why we are saying, nothing to see here folks. Move on to the inaugural. It's inevitable, so don't let it eat you up. It's not healthy.
billethkid
01-09-2017, 08:45 AM
BS baiters coming on strong!
hypocritehunter
01-09-2017, 11:11 AM
You've been asked many times to provide one shred of evidence that Russia's hacking had any effect on the election. You can't provide any proof, other than stupid innuendos and suppositions. If you didn't just watch your re-runs of Springer's best of the trailer trash episodes, you might have seen Republicans demanding action and investigation on the Russian hacking.
Your problem is that you listen to Obie and other libtard losers squeal that they were robbed.
Hillary lost because of Hillary and nothing Obama could do or say convinced anyone that Hillary was clean or that his policies that she was running on were successful.
Russia did not effect the election. Did Russia hack us? Of course, and they have been hacking for over 40 years. That's old news and that's why we are saying, nothing to see here folks. Move on to the inaugural. It's inevitable, so don't let it eat you up. It's not healthy.
Prove it didn't. Why would Trump and Putin go to the effort of trying to put out all the fake news, hack the emails if they didn't think it would work? Any moron would know it had some effect. The degree of it's effectiveness is what's debatable. Again, can you prove it had NO effect?
autumnspring
01-09-2017, 03:30 PM
Where are you in this matter. Surely, you can't keep blaming the media and liberals. We are Americans, do you get this now! Is Trump's ego that important that he can't admit that Russia ' s interest in our election favored Trump and hurt Clinton. ADMIT IT!
1. coloring books are available at the .99 store-buy your self one. Play dough-I've not seen that anywhere.
RE: HACKING
Billy at the DNC proudly announced that Hilly served on the assembly for cyber security. TALK ABOUT REACHING FOR 30 YEARS IN GOVERNMENT-COLLECTING A PAY CHECK. While the HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS refuse to see it, Hillary committed a crime in the way she handled government e-mails. I know how hard it is for normal people to realize and say they are WRONG. Based on OBAMA it is even more difficult for a LIBERAL.
Hillary's GOVERNMENT e-mails ILLEGALLY SENT ON HER NON-GOVERNMENT, NON-SECURED e-mails were found on a server shared by disgraced WEINER and his wife HUMA ABERDEEN. Huma Aberdeen, Hillary's CHOSEN confidant has family in SAUDI ARABIA and she has NO SECURITY CLEARANCE.
If, Russia HACKED democratic e-mails THAT IS THEIR DUTY.
Surely, we are hacking Russian e-mails.
THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST MADE IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM-DON'T YOU THINK?
Don Baldwin
01-09-2017, 03:35 PM
1. coloring books are available at the .99 store-buy your self one. Play dough-I've not seen that anywhere.
RE: HACKING
Billy at the DNC proudly announced that Hilly served on the assembly for cyber security. TALK ABOUT REACHING FOR 30 YEARS IN GOVERNMENT-COLLECTING A PAY CHECK. While the HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS refuse to see it, Hillary committed a crime in the way she handled government e-mails. I know how hard it is for normal people to realize and say they are WRONG. Based on OBAMA it is even more difficult for a LIBERAL.
Hillary's GOVERNMENT e-mails ILLEGALLY SENT ON HER NON-GOVERNMENT, NON-SECURED e-mails were found on a server shared by disgraced WEINER and his wife HUMA ABERDEEN. Huma Aberdeen, Hillary's CHOSEN confidant has family in SAUDI ARABIA and she has NO SECURITY CLEARANCE.
If, Russia HACKED democratic e-mails THAT IS THEIR DUTY.
Surely, we are hacking Russian e-mails.
THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST MADE IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM-DON'T YOU THINK?
People don't see what they don't want to see or they've been taught not to see. They see what they want to see and what they've been taught to see.
Politics, religion, equality...all clearly FULL of bullsh!t...but "normal people", STILL don't see it all for what it is...a big con.
autumnspring
01-09-2017, 03:37 PM
Obama decided like a POUTING CHILD to expel some Russians.
POTIN-threatend to do the same BUT LATTER PUBLICALLY ANNOUNCED IN STEAD HE WOULD TAKE THEM ALL TO DINER.
ONCE AGAIN SHOWING OBAMA TO BE A DAMN FOOL.
TWO WEEKS OBAMA WILL BE GONE.
BE SURE TO TELL MICHELLE THAT ONCE AGAIN I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN.
Be sure to call me a RACIST, A NAZI and all the other crap you liberals throw around when YOU CAN'T FACE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE WRONG
MDLNB
01-09-2017, 05:32 PM
Prove it didn't. Why would Trump and Putin go to the effort of trying to put out all the fake news, hack the emails if they didn't think it would work? Any moron would know it had some effect. The degree of it's effectiveness is what's debatable. Again, can you prove it had NO effect?
You are stupid, period. You can't prove your not
Shimpy
01-09-2017, 06:17 PM
If he admits it he will be admitting Putin helped getting him elected. Republicans can say "it had no effect" but we know that is a total lie. We know it was a factor, how big a factor is up for debate but it was a factor. No honest person would say otherwise.
Why in hell would Russia want Trump president? He vows to increase our military and take a hard stance on all our adversaries.
At the same time Hillary would continue Obama's wimpy policies and continue to downgrade our military which Russia would love.
janmcn
01-09-2017, 06:25 PM
Why in hell would Russia want Trump president? He vows to increase our military and take a hard stance on all our adversaries.
At the same time Hillary would continue Obama's wimpy policies and continue to downgrade our military which Russia would love.
Who cares if Trump believes the Russia hacking or not? Congress has taken over the investigation, which could last two years, and will impose stricter sanctions. If Trump vetoes this, there is a very good chance his veto will be overridden, making him look very weak.
autumnspring
01-09-2017, 06:45 PM
Where are you in this matter. Surely, you can't keep blaming the media and liberals. We are Americans, do you get this now! Is Trump's ego that important that he can't admit that Russia ' s interest in our election favored Trump and hurt Clinton. ADMIT IT!
Re: RUSSIA
So far OBAMA who you surely voted for has successfully fanned embers of racism into forest fires, he has made SUCCESS AND HARD WORK into evil, he has added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt, WHAT DID HE BUY THIS ALL THAT MONEY? As to all that money, most people INCLUDING ME, cannot comprehend what TEN TRILLION DOLLARS IS. If, it is hundred dollar bills, IT WOULD NOT FIT ON ONLY ONE LONG FREIGHT TRAIN.
This is not a few expensive toilet seats. WHAT DID OBAMA BUY WITH THAT MUCH MONEY? WHILE YOU MAY NOT REALIZE IT THAT IS YOUR MONEY AS WELL AS MINE.
Improved schools-NOPE, Improved Roads-NOPE, Dams-NOPE, National parks-NOPE, Improved Railroads-NOPE.
OBAMA WILL LEAVE THAT UNPAID BILL ON THE DESK FOR TRUMP TO DEAL WITH. Obama did screw up our relations with Israel-only democratic country in the middle east. Obama did screw up our relations with England-stuck his UNWANTED NOSE into BREXIT. Obama did on your tab visit KENYA a totally non important ALLY???? and when he stuck his nose into human rights-HE AS TOLD TO LEAVE.
YOU WANT MORE OF THIS CRAP and surely voted not only for obama but for hillary as well.
TO: RUSSIA
OBAMA has gone out of his way to SCREW that up as well.
First of all YOU want us to more and more toward socialism Russia is moving more an more toward capitalism and human rights.
WE NEED RUSSIA AND THEY NEED US TO OPPOSE THE GROWING MILITARY POWER OF CHINA AND NORTH KOREA.
Russia spying on us of course they are. We are spying on them as well.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO BE WRONG
autumnspring
01-09-2017, 06:48 PM
If he admits it he will be admitting Putin helped getting him elected. Republicans can say "it had no effect" but we know that is a total lie. We know it was a factor, how big a factor is up for debate but it was a factor. No honest person would say otherwise.
Do you really think HILLY and BILLY are honest?
ARE YOU THAT HYPNOTIZED????????
MDLNB
01-10-2017, 05:30 AM
Prove it didn't. Why would Trump and Putin go to the effort of trying to put out all the fake news, hack the emails if they didn't think it would work? Any moron would know it had some effect. The degree of it's effectiveness is what's debatable. Again, can you prove it had NO effect?
Can you prove that Hillary is NOT a felon?
jimbo2012
01-10-2017, 06:50 AM
Just read some of the 300 emails just released, it keeps getting worse.
rubicon
01-10-2017, 07:05 AM
Ï tire of this faux argument about the Trump Putin friendship.
Bill Clinton, George W, Obama, Hillary Clinton all attempted a "reset with "Russia.
However more telling then any other fact occurred during the 2012 campaign when with a MIC STILL ON BUT UNKNOWN TO THE TWO SPEAKING THAT OBAMA SAID TO THE RUSSIA PRESIDENT "TELL PUTIN I WILL HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY AFTER THE ELECTION" shame on Obama for now going after Trump and Company
Personal Best Regards:
MDLNB
01-10-2017, 10:07 AM
Ï tire of this faux argument about the Trump Putin friendship.
Bill Clinton, George W, Obama, Hillary Clinton all attempted a "reset with "Russia.
However more telling then any other fact occurred during the 2012 campaign when with a MIC STILL ON BUT UNKNOWN TO THE TWO SPEAKING THAT OBAMA SAID TO THE RUSSIA PRESIDENT "TELL PUTIN I WILL HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY AFTER THE ELECTION" shame on Obama for now going after Trump and Company
Personal Best Regards:
Amen! ..:thumbup:
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