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rubicon
01-15-2017, 06:20 AM
If you review the progressive agenda most of what they do results in overkill. And over reaching ends up in blurring lines of common sense.

These social justice warriors never consider the consequences to a nation for their excesses. Name it civil rights, same sex rights (actually not a right but who is counting) climate change, entitlements, political correctness. Here is another example.

The progressives sought to push through a law termed "hate crimes" solely to protect well their "protected class". Now who wouldn't agree that people should not hate. Personally I disagreed because a crime is a crime and all crime develops from some sort of hate ( ie a person, authority, a bank). So what was the benefit in labeling some crimes as hate and other crimes just as crimes?

Hence the predicted result of over reaching showed its ugly head again and an organization called Black Lives Matter hit the horizons.

You see the perception of the minority community was reinforced with their belief that they are the only targets, so forth and so forth and that only black lives matter and no others.

Essentially what progressives have done by creating "hate crimes" is to punished people not only for what they do but also because of what they think.

So the consequences at minimum can be twofold 1) an unexplained disparity in the sentencing of a hate crime vis a vis the same exact crime not labeled a hate crime and 2) it is a short leap to begin punishing people just for what they think.

A columnist, Heather Mac Donald did an article citing national statistics that refute the biases being pushed by progressives and the harm this misinformation causes the black community.

One can argue the statistics to claim a win quantitatively. However qualitatively the emergence of an organization like Black Lives Matters and the intentional killing of police officers nationally makes the case that a crime by any other name is just a crime and the person despite creed ,color orientation is still a victim and suffers consequences equally.

Personal Best Regards:

MDLNB
01-15-2017, 06:35 AM
If you review the progressive agenda most of what they do results in overkill. And over reaching ends up in blurring lines of common sense.

These social justice warriors never consider the consequences to a nation for their excesses. Name it civil rights, same sex rights (actually not a right but who is counting) climate change, entitlements, political correctness. Here is another example.

The progressives sought to push through a law termed "hate crimes" solely to protect well their "protected class". Now who wouldn't agree that people should not hate. Personally I disagreed because a crime is a crime and all crime develops from some sort of hate ( ie a person, authority, a bank). So what was the benefit in labeling some crimes as hate and other crimes just as crimes?

Hence the predicted result of over reaching showed its ugly head again and an organization called Black Lives Matter hit the horizons.

You see the perception of the minority community was reinforced with their belief that they are the only targets, so forth and so forth and that only black lives matter and no others.

Essentially what progressives have done by creating "hate crimes" is to punished people not only for what they do but also because of what they think.

So the consequences at minimum can be twofold 1) an unexplained disparity in the sentencing of a hate crime vis a vis the same exact crime not labeled a hate crime and 2) it is a short leap to begin punishing people just for what they think.

A columnist, Heather Mac Donald did an article citing national statistics that refute the biases being pushed by progressives and the harm this misinformation causes the black community.

One can argue the statistics to claim a win quantitatively. However qualitatively the emergence of an organization like Black Lives Matters and the intentional killing of police officers nationally makes the case that a crime by any other name is just a crime and the person despite creed ,color orientation is still a victim and suffers consequences equally.

Personal Best Regards:

Good points.

ColdNoMore
01-15-2017, 07:59 AM
Is anyone really surprised, that so many on the right are against 'hate crime' legislation?

It certainly isn't because they think it's superfluous, it's simply the fact that they feel their white supremacists/KKK/Nazi group friends...shouldn't get additional penalties when caught.

Don Baldwin
01-15-2017, 08:14 AM
Is anyone really surprised, that so many on the right are against 'hate crime' legislation?

It certainly isn't because they think it's superfluous, it's simply the fact that they feel their white supremacists/KKK/Nazi group friends...shouldn't get additional penalties when caught.

WHY should they? Do BLM or Black Panthers get "additional" punishment?

You REALLY think you're on the right side here? They're trying to SAVE you from genocide...self inflicted genocide. YOU are actively hastening your own races demise.

Diversity IS destroying everything in its wake. WHAT has improved? We're now #25, down from #1 when white men did/ran everything. What do you have to show for diversity?

dillywho
01-15-2017, 10:35 AM
Is anyone really surprised, that so many on the right are against 'hate crime' legislation?

It certainly isn't because they think it's superfluous, it's simply the fact that they feel their white supremacists/KKK/Nazi group friends...shouldn't get additional penalties when caught.

Guess that reasoning would apply to those misfits who just attacked the WHITE kid with the disability and video taped it for FB so that they could have their 15 minutes of fame? Or should they just get a pass because of THEIR color?

Don Baldwin
01-15-2017, 11:17 AM
Guess that reasoning would apply to those misfits who just attacked the WHITE kid with the disability and video taped it for FB so that they could have their 15 minutes of fame? Or should they just get a pass because of THEIR color?

They WILL get a pass...women and minorities...it's ALWAYS someone else's fault...a white man's fault usually. It was the disabled boy's fault for showing the blacks up at school...even a retarded white male can embarrass blacks intellectually.

dillywho
01-15-2017, 03:09 PM
They WILL get a pass...women and minorities...it's ALWAYS someone else's fault...a white man's fault usually. It was the disabled boy's fault for showing the blacks up at school...even a retarded white male can embarrass blacks intellectually.

They will get their pass because they don't want Trump to trample on their hate-filled agendas.

dave harris
01-15-2017, 03:35 PM
If you review the progressive agenda most of what they do results in overkill. And over reaching ends up in blurring lines of common sense.

These social justice warriors never consider the consequences to a nation for their excesses. Name it civil rights, same sex rights (actually not a right but who is counting) climate change, entitlements, political correctness. Here is another example.

The progressives sought to push through a law termed "hate crimes" solely to protect well their "protected class". Now who wouldn't agree that people should not hate. Personally I disagreed because a crime is a crime and all crime develops from some sort of hate ( ie a person, authority, a bank). So what was the benefit in labeling some crimes as hate and other crimes just as crimes?

Hence the predicted result of over reaching showed its ugly head again and an organization called Black Lives Matter hit the horizons.

You see the perception of the minority community was reinforced with their belief that they are the only targets, so forth and so forth and that only black lives matter and no others.

Essentially what progressives have done by creating "hate crimes" is to punished people not only for what they do but also because of what they think.

So the consequences at minimum can be twofold 1) an unexplained disparity in the sentencing of a hate crime vis a vis the same exact crime not labeled a hate crime and 2) it is a short leap to begin punishing people just for what they think.

A columnist, Heather Mac Donald did an article citing national statistics that refute the biases being pushed by progressives and the harm this misinformation causes the black community.

One can argue the statistics to claim a win quantitatively. However qualitatively the emergence of an organization like Black Lives Matters and the intentional killing of police officers nationally makes the case that a crime by any other name is just a crime and the person despite creed ,color orientation is still a victim and suffers consequences equally.

Personal Best Regards:

"Essentially what progressives have done by creating "hate crimes" is to punished people not only for what they do but also because of what they think." Wow, who is the esp expert that can do this?

dave harris
01-15-2017, 03:38 PM
WHY should they? Do BLM or Black Panthers get "additional" punishment?

You REALLY think you're on the right side here? They're trying to SAVE you from genocide...self inflicted genocide. YOU are actively hastening your own races demise.

Diversity IS destroying everything in its wake. WHAT has improved? We're now #25, down from #1 when white men did/ran everything. What do you have to show for diversity?

"Diversity IS destroying everything in its wake." Sounds like a statement a nazi would make. The aryan culture, you probably would be in trouble if that was the case

rubicon
01-16-2017, 05:38 AM
"Diversity IS destroying everything in its wake." Sounds like a statement a nazi would make. The aryan culture, you probably would be in trouble if that was the case

Dear Posters:

The above-stated comments are a prime example of the beginnings for an age of entropy (breakdown, falling apart). A serious person would ask the question as to why progressives , establishment figures (ie powerful people) have conducted such a directed attack of hyperbolic, hate, lies and hasty pronouncements on Trump.

The why is because Trump is about to take power away from the powerful who have done nothing with it but make themselves richer and more powerful. They knew if Trump was elected that he was going to make policy that affected their standard of living and way of life. And people who have their derrieres against the wall lunge and lunging with vicious and dishonest attacks they are doing.

We deplorables who had had enough of the deplorable treatment by these elitist and recognized that Trump was talking to them. Progressives elitist media, etc, so convinced that they continued to fool all of the people all of the time underestimated and were shocked by the presidential outcome.

These powerful people would rather resort to destruction of this nation than maintain the pride of this nation a peaceful transition of administration.

If you will note this populist movement crosses borders and many nations are at the same crossroads as America. France , Great Britain, Germany . France and Germany carrying the heavier load o the refugee problem demanding their governments send them home.

Those on this board that continue their hateful rants contribute to this breakdown and if the breakdown materializes we all come out losers, well not the powerful they always survive.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin
01-16-2017, 05:47 AM
"Diversity IS destroying everything in its wake." Sounds like a statement a nazi would make. The aryan culture, you probably would be in trouble if that was the case

Sounds like a statement someone with their eyes open would make.

WHAT has improved since diversity? Our national ranking? Education? Neighborhoods? WHAT has diversity made better? I keep asking and nobody can respond.

White people ARE "better" than the dark minorities...EVERYWHERE. Compare Norway or Sweden to Haiti and Somalia...what is the difference? White people vs black people. White people make places BETTER...black people make places worse...ALWAYS. Disagree? Prove it.

The Nazis are the progressives DEMANDING that EVERYONE comply with their orders. I just want to be free...to have the freedom to make my OWN choices.

MDLNB
01-16-2017, 05:56 AM
"Essentially what progressives have done by creating "hate crimes" is to punished people not only for what they do but also because of what they think." Wow, who is the esp expert that can do this?

Good point. AG Lynch was attempting to get legislation on "hate speech" so "hate thought" is not inconceivable.

Don Baldwin
01-16-2017, 06:18 AM
Good point. AG Lynch was attempting to get legislation on "hate speech" so "hate thought" is not inconceivable.

Hate speech...is ANYTHING that goes against what they think/want. If you don't agree...you're a "hater" and they have no use for you. They'll throw YOU under the bus...when it's the minorities who should be thrown under the bus.

It's not my fault they're not us...it's not a dogs fault it isn't a cat...but it's still NOT a cat...even if you WANT it to be. Blacks/Hispanics are NOT white people, they're not as smart, and no amount of wishful thinking or laws are going to change it. Accept it and live WITH it instead of fighting it.

Disagree? Where IS the "black paradise"? Where ARE blacks better than everyone else? EQUAL to everyone else?

ColdNoMore
01-16-2017, 07:12 AM
"Essentially what progressives have done by creating "hate crimes" is to punished people not only for what they do but also because of what they think." Wow, who is the esp expert that can do this?

You will soon find that RubiTheCon loves his long-winded diatribes, by which he either plagiarizes or presents something as 'fact'...without any corroborating data/statistics/links. :oops:

He expects everyone to 'just believe' him whenever he's straining his muscles patting himself on the back...and a few of the less bright people often do believe him.

That's OK though, as I personally get a kick out of watching him strive so hard to be relevant...while he's actually exhibiting the definition of a pseudo-intellectual. :D

So there is that entertainment factor. :thumbup:


Urban Dictionary: pseudo-intellectual (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pseudo-intellectual)

pseudo-intellectual
1. One who attempts to flex intellect that does not exist within his or her own mind.

2. Can probably be found with a thesaurus in hand, while in a chat room, looking up new insults that are synonymous with "stupid" in order to boost his or her own undeserved ego.

3. Typical cases of pseudo-intellectualism involve pre-pubescent 15 year olds that think they have everything figured out, including, but not limited to: life, religion, politics, education, and sex. Ironically, they have never quite experienced either of the aforementioned.

4. Pretends he or she has an opinion.

5. Possesses a severe tendency to blindly and wholeheartedly believe any bull**** they hear, only to subsequently regurgitate the misinformation to anyone they see in an asinine attempt to appear more intelligent than a used, broken condom.


:ho:

MDLNB
01-16-2017, 07:14 AM
You will soon find that RubiTheCon loves his long-winded diatribes, by which he either plagiarizes or presents something as 'fact'...without any corroborating data/statistics/links. :oops:

He expects everyone to 'just believe' him whenever he's straining his muscles patting himself on the back...and a few of the less bright people often do believe him.

That's OK though, as I personally get a kick out of watching him strive so hard to be relevant...while he's actually exhibiting the definition of a pseudo-intellectual. :D

So there is that entertainment factor. :thumbup:


Urban Dictionary: pseudo-intellectual (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pseudo-intellectual)



:ho:


👎🏼

Don Baldwin
01-16-2017, 07:22 AM
You will soon find that RubiTheCon loves his long-winded diatribes, by which he either plagiarizes or presents something as 'fact'...without any corroborating data/statistics/links. :oops:

He expects everyone to 'just believe' him whenever he's straining his muscles patting himself on the back...and a few of the less bright people often do believe him.

That's OK though, as I personally get a kick out of watching him strive so hard to be relevant...while he's actually exhibiting the definition of a pseudo-intellectual. :D

So there is that entertainment factor. :thumbup:


Urban Dictionary: pseudo-intellectual (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pseudo-intellectual)



:ho:

I've got lots of data and links...fight me instead.

dirtbanker
01-16-2017, 07:25 AM
You will soon find that RubiTheCon loves his long-winded diatribes, by which he either plagiarizes or presents something as 'fact'...without any corroborating data/statistics/links. :oops:

Someone has a stiff tongue for Rubi...every post he makes the (unt needs to rudely comment on...

Hey (unt - how come you have not provided any data/statistics/links to support your claim that Rubi is wrong??

Rubi - I agree, the hate crime laws are a way to punish someone for their thoughts.

MDLNB
01-16-2017, 07:54 AM
Someone has a stiff tongue for Rubi...every post he makes the (unt needs to rudely comment on...

Hey (unt - how come you have not provided any data/statistics/links to support your claim that Rubi is wrong??

Rubi - I agree, the hate crime laws are a way to punish someone for their thoughts.


:thumbup:

ColdNoMore
01-16-2017, 06:10 PM
I've got lots of data and links...fight me instead.
Sure, I just eviscerated you regarding the National Guard Commander. :D

You are beneath contempt on any racial issues though, so I just ignore your lying broken record as I refuse to take the shower that I would need...when I eviscerate you on those also. :wave:

Don Baldwin
01-16-2017, 10:39 PM
Sure, I just eviscerated you regarding the National Guard Commander. :D

You are beneath contempt on any racial issues though, so I just ignore your lying broken record as I refuse to take the shower that I would need...when I eviscerate you on those also. :wave:

Eviscerated me? In your deluded little dreams lady.

rubicon
01-17-2017, 07:08 AM
Review the legislation and policy decisions during the Obama Administration and you will see the pattern developing that "thought alone "was enough of a burden of proof.

#1 If someone suggests Obama's policy is wrong then his thoughts are evil and he is a racist.

#2 If someone suggests that they do not accept the homosexual lifestyle his thoughts are wrong and he is a homophobic

#1 if your a white cop you may want to stay away from dealing with black people because you are already a racist and anything you normally do/protocol is not subject

#2 If you are a baker and your personal belief is such that you do not desire to participate in a same sex marriage. Well you end up paying a substantial monetary and risk losing your business just because of your "thought" And if you are a Christian then your thought concerning homosexuality are so egregious that govrnment policy will be implement to stop you from thinking that way.

"Welcome to 1984

Personal Best Regards:

MDLNB
01-17-2017, 08:34 AM
Review the legislation and policy decisions during the Obama Administration and you will see the pattern developing that "thought alone "was enough of a burden of proof.

#1 If someone suggests Obama's policy is wrong then his thoughts are evil and he is a racist.

#2 If someone suggests that they do not accept the homosexual lifestyle his thoughts are wrong and he is a homophobic

#1 if your a white cop you may want to stay away from dealing with black people because you are already a racist and anything you normally do/protocol is not subject

#2 If you are a baker and your personal belief is such that you do not desire to participate in a same sex marriage. Well you end up paying a substantial monetary and risk losing your business just because of your "thought" And if you are a Christian then your thought concerning homosexuality are so egregious that govrnment policy will be implement to stop you from thinking that way.

"Welcome to 1984

Personal Best Regards:


Agree

Don Baldwin
01-17-2017, 09:05 AM
Review the legislation and policy decisions during the Obama Administration and you will see the pattern developing that "thought alone "was enough of a burden of proof.

#1 If someone suggests Obama's policy is wrong then his thoughts are evil and he is a racist.

#2 If someone suggests that they do not accept the homosexual lifestyle his thoughts are wrong and he is a homophobic

#1 if your a white cop you may want to stay away from dealing with black people because you are already a racist and anything you normally do/protocol is not subject

#2 If you are a baker and your personal belief is such that you do not desire to participate in a same sex marriage. Well you end up paying a substantial monetary and risk losing your business just because of your "thought" And if you are a Christian then your thought concerning homosexuality are so egregious that govrnment policy will be implement to stop you from thinking that way.

"Welcome to 1984

Personal Best Regards:

Yes...welcome to 1984.

Speaking the TRUTH about racial differences is racist.

They took it out of the DSM that's how political "gayness" has become.

If you're ANYONE you may want to stay away from black people. Do they EVER make things better? They're ALWAYS more trouble than they're worth.

Yup...the REAL Nazis...the women and liberals telling you how to think and run your life...telling you what you CAN and CANNOT say.