Trump orders immigration changes

[MDLNB]

Trump moves to build border wall, cut sanctuary city funds (https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAmcqxz?m=en-us)

"WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump moved aggressively to tighten the nation's immigration controls Wednesday, signing executive actions to jumpstart construction of a U.S.-Mexico border wall and block federal grants from immigrant-protecting "sanctuary cities."

"Later in the week, Trump is expected to sign orders restricting the flow of refugees into the United States. His current proposal includes at least a four-month halt on all refugee admissions, as well as a temporary ban on people coming from some Muslim-majority countries, according to a source from a public policy organization that monitors refugee issues. The person was briefed on the details of that proposed action by a government official and outlined the plan to The Associated Press."

[Don Baldwin]

If he doesn't send the ones already here back...it won't matter. They're 1/3 the population.

[jimbo2012]

:bigbow: he's doing what he promised.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

All he actually did was to sign an order dictating that current laws be enforced.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

If he doesn't send the ones already here back...it won't matter. They're 1/3 the population.

I'm not sure where you get that from. The best estimates are that there are about 11 million illegal immigrants in this country. That's hardly one third of 330 million people.

[Don Baldwin]

I'm not sure where you get that from. The best estimates are that there are about 11 million illegal immigrants in this country. That's hardly one third of 330 million people.

Still believing those old numbers from the 90s" They've been dropping anchor babies for the last 30 years. Added to the illegals...they're the MAJORITY under age 7.

[Topspinmo]

Trump moves to build border wall, cut sanctuary city funds (https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAmcqxz?m=en-us)

"WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump moved aggressively to tighten the nation's immigration controls Wednesday, signing executive actions to jumpstart construction of a U.S.-Mexico border wall and block federal grants from immigrant-protecting "sanctuary cities."

"Later in the week, Trump is expected to sign orders restricting the flow of refugees into the United States. His current proposal includes at least a four-month halt on all refugee admissions, as well as a temporary ban on people coming from some Muslim-majority countries, according to a source from a public policy organization that monitors refugee issues. The person was briefed on the details of that proposed action by a government official and outlined the plan to The Associated Press."

IAFT! Democrats are going to scream taking away their future voting base. Their plan was to infiltrated enough states to swing elections. I can hear all the racist rants coming. Democrat = carpetbaggers. Snow jobs for votes all they got. :popcorn:

[rubicon]

This nation's border policy and accounting of the whereabouts and control of immigrants has been so lax for so long that no one actually can provide a reasonable estimate of numbers.

let's face it were in a mess. What we can say truthfully at this point is that Trump has given us a start. Where it goes depends on what the authorities discover as they move along.

Clearly we want it all to be a successful undertaking. And, we certainly do not want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
However an honest person cannot deny that we must regain control of our borders and we must expel criminals.


A sidebar: a cartoon depicts a Canadian mounted police and the caption reads: "On the lookout for illegal Americans (Hollywood celebs crossing the border) :)

Personal Best Regards:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Still believing those old numbers from the 90s" They've been dropping anchor babies for the last 30 years. Added to the illegals...they're the MAJORITY under age 7.

Anchor babies are not illegal immigrants. They are US citizens. This is something that I feel needs to be addressed as soon as possible. The Supreme Court needs to interpret the 14th amendment to define it's original intent. It was never intended to grant birthright citizenship. It's purpose was to insure that freed slaves that were born in this country has the same full rights as whites.

It's probably impossible to amend the constitution or repeal and amendment in these days so I would like to see someone bring a cast to the court for proper interpretation. That would go a long way to solving the problem of illegal immigration.

I've never seen anything to dispute the 11 million number and counting US born citizens as illegals and saying that they are a majority of people under age seven is still a long way from 110 million people. The number was 11.1 million in 2014. So if you have something that shows a different numb er, I'd like to see it.

Additionally, a large percentage of those illegal immigrants are people that came here on a legal ten year visa and simply have not filed the paperwork to renew their stay. The problem with many of them is that the government does not notify them when their visa expires so many just forget. The other issue is that some of them have moved and we don't know where to find them. This really shouldn't be a problem as they almost all have a social security number and file tax returns. What we need is for federal agencies to work together. ICE should be able to give a list of SSNs to the SS administration of people who have over stayed their visa. When SSA receives the tax returns of these people they should be able to report their whereabouts to ICE. That way, ICE can track them down and deal with them appropriately.

The federal government is a giant mess and too many regulations prevent agencies from doing their jobs properly. Homeland Security was supposed to solve that problem, but evidently it's not working. Hopefully, with this new administration things will be better.

[jimbo2012]

Hopefully, with this new administration things will be better.

Agree

I think even the never Trumpers believe that!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Agree

I think even the never Trumpers believe that!

I would think that every American hopes that the country will be better off. although I disagreed with President Obama's basic philosophies and policies I was hoping the he'd prove me wrong and that the country would be better off.

I thought and believed that the ACA would be a disaster, but I hopes that I was wrong.

I think that when it comes to the bottom line, most of us want the same things. We often disagree vehemently on how to get them, but we are hoping for the same basic things.

[Henryk]

I'm not sure where you get that from. The best estimates are that there are about 11 million illegal immigrants in this country. That's hardly one third of 330 million people.

He made it up. Just like the orange-faced pig does.

[jimbo2012]

He made it up. Just like the orange-faced pig does.

Henry you are the most disrespectful pig in TV

anyone that doesn't respect the office of the president should get the F out of the Country!

[MDLNB]

Agree

I think even the never Trumpers believe that!

In one week it is already better. Eight years of negativity from the top will bring down the morale of the whole country. At least half of us are happy again. The others are too but won't admit it. Thy know that Obie was a failure with the only legacy being his being the first "of his kind."

[MDLNB]

He made it up. Just like the orange-faced pig does.

Obama was NOT "orange-faced." He was brown, commonly referred to as "black."

[Don Baldwin]

I would think that every American hopes that the country will be better off. although I disagreed with President Obama's basic philosophies and policies I was hoping the he'd prove me wrong and that the country would be better off.

I thought and believed that the ACA would be a disaster, but I hopes that I was wrong.

I think that when it comes to the bottom line, most of us want the same things. We often disagree vehemently on how to get them, but we are hoping for the same basic things.

We want a white paradise with no minorities...that's WHY we moved to the villages!

He made it up. Just like the orange-faced pig does.

"Previous Years Data. There were 55.3 million Hispanics in the United States in 2014, comprising 17.3% of the total U.S. population. In 1980, with a population of 14.8 million, Hispanics made up just 6.5% of the total U.S. population."

Plus the anchor babies...

"About 295,000 babies were born to unauthorized-immigrant parents in 2013, making up 8% of the 3.9 million U.S. births that year, according to a new, preliminary Pew Research Center estimate based on the latest available federal government data. This was a decline from a peak of 370,000 in 2007."

NOW minorities make up MOST of the babies born. They are the majority below age 7. EVERYBODY admits that.

MANY Hispanics are classified as white. Anchor babies...are having babies.

There ARE 100 million of "them" here now.

According to the Census, whites in the under-5 age group will tip to a minority in 2013 or 2014 and within five years, minorities will become the majority of children under the age of 18. Shortly after that, the total U.S. white population will decline in absolute numbers as baby boomers continue to age.

America’s Minorities Becoming A Majority << CBS Miami (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/06/13/americas-minorities-becoming-a-majority/)

[Henryk]

Henry you are the most disrespectful pig in TV

anyone that doesn't respect the office of the president should get the F out of the Country!

Jimbo, I respect the office. The current psychotic liar is a liar nonetheless.

[Henryk]

Obama was NOT "orange-faced." He was brown, commonly referred to as "black."

I know President Obama is black. And you know i was referring to the pathological liar, not President Obama.

[MDLNB]

I know President Obama is black. And you know i was referring to the pathological liar, not President Obama.

Obama was a liar, because he did lie, but I don't' think of him as a pathological liar. On the other hand, I do think that Hillary is a pathological liar, if you need an example.

[Fredster]

Obama was a liar, because he did lie, but I don't' think of him as a pathological liar. On the other hand, I do think that Hillary is a pathological liar, if you need an example.

I disagree I think both Obama, and Hillary
are chronic, compulsive liars!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We want a white paradise with no minorities...that's WHY we moved to the villages!



"Previous Years Data. There were 55.3 million Hispanics in the United States in 2014, comprising 17.3% of the total U.S. population. In 1980, with a population of 14.8 million, Hispanics made up just 6.5% of the total U.S. population."

Plus the anchor babies...

"About 295,000 babies were born to unauthorized-immigrant parents in 2013, making up 8% of the 3.9 million U.S. births that year, according to a new, preliminary Pew Research Center estimate based on the latest available federal government data. This was a decline from a peak of 370,000 in 2007."

NOW minorities make up MOST of the babies born. They are the majority below age 7. EVERYBODY admits that.

MANY Hispanics are classified as white. Anchor babies...are having babies.

There ARE 100 million of "them" here now.

According to the Census, whites in the under-5 age group will tip to a minority in 2013 or 2014 and within five years, minorities will become the majority of children under the age of 18. Shortly after that, the total U.S. white population will decline in absolute numbers as baby boomers continue to age.

America’s Minorities Becoming A Majority << CBS Miami (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/06/13/americas-minorities-becoming-a-majority/)

Now you're talking about minorities. In your first post you said that illegal immigrants made up 1/3 of the population.

If your numbers are correct, there's not much we can do about legal citizens procreating. If we're becoming more of a Hispanic or African American society it's just as much due to the fact that white people, especially well off white people are choosing to have fewer children.

And just like we can't stop blacks and Hispanics from having children, we can't force wealthy white folks to have more children.

As I said in my comment about anchor babies, it's time that we have the 14th amendment properly defined and stop the practice of birthright citizenship.

There's nothing we can do now about those anchor babies that are having babies. They are US citizens and have the same rights as you and me.

There's nothing that can be done about the past. In the future we need to stop the practice of birthright citizenship. I don't care if people are black, white, yellow or red, if at least one of their parents is a US citizen, they are US citizens. If neither parent is a citizen then they should not be citizens regardless of where they are born.

[Chi-Town]

Henry you are the most disrespectful pig in TV

anyone that doesn't respect the office of the president should get the F out of the Country!
Orange- faced pig is almost a compliment compared to what President Obama was called on this forum. So quit your whining J-Bo.

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[dirtbanker]

Orange- faced pig is almost a compliment compared to what President Obama was called on this forum. So quit your whining J-Bo.

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What do you call a guy who sends 221 million to Palestine hours before he leaves office?


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[MDLNB]

What do you call a guy who sends 221 million to Palestine hours before he leaves office?


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What do you call 68 Democrats refusing to participate in government?

A good start.

I know, you have already heard that one before, but it is good enough to repeat.

Speaking of gov, it appears that Trump is asking for a border tax to pay for the wall. If that passes through congress, I wonder how the left will spin that, in regards to Mexico NOT paying for the wall.

[dirtbanker]

Trump should sieze thier assets to cover the expense of deportation. Including fraudulent ss accounts (so Jan's medicare can keep coming). They came here to steal our jobs, got caught and thrown out with nothing to show for it. That will discourage other illegal immigrants.

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[MDLNB]

Trump should sieze thier assets to cover the expense of deportation. Including fraudulent ss accounts (so Jan's medicare can keep coming). They came here to steal our jobs, got caught and thrown out with nothing to show for it. That will discourage other illegal immigrants.

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Actually, it would seem that if they are using illegal SS numbers, then if that person is not deceased that owns that number, he is receiving the benefit of the additional influx of SS revenue. At any rate, the money that is being deducted from their payroll (IF they are not getting paid under the table) would be going to the overall SS fund.

[dirtbanker]

About 6.1 Million Illegals Filed Taxes in US – Many Didn't Pay, Received Refunds (http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/james-agresti/about-61-million-illegals-filed-taxes-us-many-didnt-pay-received-refunds)

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[ColdNoMore]

About 6.1 Million Illegals Filed Taxes in US – Many Didn't Pay, Received Refunds (http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/james-agresti/about-61-million-illegals-filed-taxes-us-many-didnt-pay-received-refunds)


Your link.

Is there no limit to the FAKE NEWS sites you people on the right...have access to? :oops:

CNS News – Media Bias/Fact Checking (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cns-news/)

CNS News


These media sources are highly biased toward conservative causes.

They utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes.

Sources in this category may be untrustworthy.

Enough said. :wave:

[MDLNB]

Your link.

Is there no limit to the FAKE NEWS sites you people on the right...have access to? :oops:

CNS News – Media Bias/Fact Checking (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cns-news/)



Enough said. :wave:

By your standards, Huffington Post would also fit the "bias" category.

What does bias have to do with it being "fake news" as you call it? Being bias does not make something wrong.

Enough said