Russia and US back join to fight ISIL?

[tcxr750]

After the Presidents conversation with Vladimir Putin it appears that a relationship is developing that could require the cooperation of Russian and US forces.
Based on Russian indiscriminate support of the killings and destruction of Aleppo I would be concerned that we provide our superior forces and subject them to the highest risk while the inferior Russian forces take a lesser role.
The only winner in this will be Putin and Rosneft. The capital markets will be allowed to invest in Putins oil monopoly and help make Russia Great Again.

If you don't know what Rosneft is do a web search.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I don't know why this is a surprise to anyone. I heard people talking about the fact that the president is annoying Mexico, who supposedly has done nothing to us and befriending Russia who supposedly is our enemy.

Well, as we showed back in WWII when we allied with Josef Stalin, the enemy of our enemy is our friend.

What could be better than the two greatest powers in the world partnering to destroy ISIS and al Qeada and all of the other radical Islamist terrorist groups?

As far as Mexico, they may not have done anything to us, but they certainly have not done anything for us. Our foreign policy has been a one way street fro too long. We give and give and give and get nothing in return. And instead of being grateful, countries like Mexico expect more and are hurting our economy by taking our jobs. We need to have relationships with countries that can benefit us or that we can benefit mutually by.

[Rockyrd]

After the Presidents conversation with Vladimir Putin it appears that a relationship is developing that could require the cooperation of Russian and US forces.
Based on Russian indiscriminate support of the killings and destruction of Aleppo I would be concerned that we provide our superior forces and subject them to the highest risk while the inferior Russian forces take a lesser role.
The only winner in this will be Putin and Rosneft. The capital markets will be allowed to invest in Putins oil monopoly and help make Russia Great Again.

If you don't know what Rosneft is do a web search.

Back in November Russia said they were bombing ISIS, when in fact they were obliterating Aleppo, including two hospitals.

Their press secretary did not mention that and simply said they are bombing ISIS.

Of course, the media in Russia is controlled....so

They are there to defend Assad...no other reason. They are there because the past administration allowed that red line to be crossed.

If we trust Russia, and it appears we are and will (Remember, Bannon has taken over for our National Intelligence and our Joint Chief if Staff) that will cinch our embracing Russia. Putin now can use our money and military to keep Assad in power.

[billethkid]

CAUTION:

all the above is sourced from the main stream media, hence beware of hidden agenda (pssssst......down with Trump!)

[ColdNoMore]

Russia is really a good friend and Mexico doesn't help us, as if the benefit we receive in purchasing goods/services at a lower cost...would still exist without Mexico? :oops:

Cue the Twilight Zone music...I've frigging heard it all now. :ohdear:

[Rockyrd]

CAUTION:

all the above is sourced from the main stream media, hence beware of hidden agenda (pssssst......down with Trump!)

No..it comes from the people killed there with chlorine gas, parachute bombs aimed by the Russians directly at hospitals intended to kill civilians.

Same killers in Nov accused the US of slaughter in IRAQ for killing ISIS.

Same people, i.e., Russia who took over Crimeria....

It comes from Children slaughtered in the streets by Russians who then have their own version of Steve Bannon say they are simply fighting ISIS. Who would argue in Russia...nobody...media has been essentially shut down.

The voices are the kids killed by chemical weapons, by patients in hospitals leveled on purpose, and in some cases simply for vengence...

Be patient...it appears our own media is being shut up....you won't have to be bored with facts any longer....simply the voice of the state.

Those children in Syria do not count...they are not Americans, thus cannot make America great again.. Eseentially firing the National Security head and the Joint Chiefs to allow Steve Bannon voice will insure you only hear "Breitbart" from here on.

Those children's voices will be quiet..they had the misfortune of being born Muslim and not American,

Just leave the USA media...google Aleppo and Russia...read it....of course, to make America great again, we must silence them as well.

[Rockyrd]

Hug your children and grandchildren because we are on the precipice.....name Bannon to Security Council, fire the intelligence head and the Joint Chief, enlist Russia who has been slaughtering children in Syria, give the radical Muslim world a ready made banner to wave in recruiting...if in the military..God be with you

Steve Bannon....




""I’m a Leninist ... Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment." P

[rubicon]

I don't know why this is a surprise to anyone. I heard people talking about the fact that the president is annoying Mexico, who supposedly has done nothing to us and befriending Russia who supposedly is our enemy.

Well, as we showed back in WWII when we allied with Josef Stalin, the enemy of our enemy is our friend.

What could be better than the two greatest powers in the world partnering to destroy ISIS and al Qeada and all of the other radical Islamist terrorist groups?

As far as Mexico, they may not have done anything to us, but they certainly have not done anything for us. Our foreign policy has been a one way street fro too long. We give and give and give and get nothing in return. And instead of being grateful, countries like Mexico expect more and are hurting our economy by taking our jobs. We need to have relationships with countries that can benefit us or that we can benefit mutually by.

Yea, like that Obama guy who thumbed his nose at Israel and befriended Iran and Palestine. This guy actually also tried a reset with Russia too. He also showed an affection for Cuba and Venezuela

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

Yea, like that Obama guy who thumbed his nose at Israel and befriended Iran and Palestine. This guy actually also tried a reset with Russia too. He also showed an affection for Cuba and Venezuela

Personal Best Regards:

Explain exactly what in the hell Obama has to do with our current president looking to partner with murders ?

You actually find justification for a man and country that in the last year has taken over with military another country, murders and bombed little innocent children in the streets under false pretenses, tried to sabatoge a US election......

AND YOU FIND SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS....

You, sir, are not....I will stop...I know what you are and also nwhat you are not..,disgusted.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Russia is really a good friend and Mexico doesn't help us, as if the benefit we receive in purchasing goods/services at a lower cost...would still exist without Mexico? :oops:

Cue the Twilight Zone music...I've frigging heard it all now. :ohdear:

No one ever said that. But I think that the benefit of goods purchased at a lower cost from Mexico is outweighed by the number of jobs lost in this country.

Our own companies leave here and go to foreign nations because the cost of doing business here is too high.

If all of the US manufacturers pulled out of Mexico and China we'd all be better off and Mexico and China would be worse off.

It's difficult to imagine with all of the shipping costs and other fees associated with doing business overseas that some companies do just that because doing business here is so expensive. It's time to change that.

[Don Baldwin]

Back in November Russia said they were bombing ISIS, when in fact they were obliterating Aleppo, including two hospitals.

Their press secretary did not mention that and simply said they are bombing ISIS.

Of course, the media in Russia is controlled....so

They are there to defend Assad...no other reason. They are there because the past administration allowed that red line to be crossed.

If we trust Russia, and it appears we are and will (Remember, Bannon has taken over for our National Intelligence and our Joint Chief if Staff) that will cinch our embracing Russia. Putin now can use our money and military to keep Assad in power.

STOP listening to the propaganda...OUR media is JUST as crooked as Russia's.

YOU don't KNOW if ANY of that is true...you've NEVER been to Syria. The media LIES...until you can accept that FACT...you will be hopelessly lost/fooled.

The "media" is just big corporations run by wealthy people. They lie and market just like other big corporations. Don't get caught up in their lies.

CAUTION:

all the above is sourced from the main stream media, hence beware of hidden agenda (pssssst......down with Trump!)

Exactly! Our media is just as corrupt as the Russian media.

No..it comes from the people killed there with chlorine gas, parachute bombs aimed by the Russians directly at hospitals intended to kill civilians.

Same killers in Nov accused the US of slaughter in IRAQ for killing ISIS.

Same people, i.e., Russia who took over Crimeria....

It comes from Children slaughtered in the streets by Russians who then have their own version of Steve Bannon say they are simply fighting ISIS. Who would argue in Russia...nobody...media has been essentially shut down.

The voices are the kids killed by chemical weapons, by patients in hospitals leveled on purpose, and in some cases simply for vengence...

Be patient...it appears our own media is being shut up....you won't have to be bored with facts any longer....simply the voice of the state.

Those children in Syria do not count...they are not Americans, thus cannot make America great again.. Eseentially firing the National Security head and the Joint Chiefs to allow Steve Bannon voice will insure you only hear "Breitbart" from here on.

Those children's voices will be quiet..they had the misfortune of being born Muslim and not American,

Just leave the USA media...google Aleppo and Russia...read it....of course, to make America great again, we must silence them as well.

STOP believing the propaganda lies!

Explain exactly what in the hell Obama has to do with our current president looking to partner with murders ?

You actually find justification for a man and country that in the last year has taken over with military another country, murders and bombed little innocent children in the streets under false pretenses, tried to sabatoge a US election......

AND YOU FIND SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS....

You, sir, are not....I will stop...I know what you are and also nwhat you are not..,disgusted.

STOP believing the media's propaganda and lies.

No one ever said that. But I think that the benefit of goods purchased at a lower cost from Mexico is outweighed by the number of jobs lost in this country.

Our own companies leave here and go to foreign nations because the cost of doing business here is too high.

If all of the US manufacturers pulled out of Mexico and China we'd all be better off and Mexico and China would be worse off.

It's difficult to imagine with all of the shipping costs and other fees associated with doing business overseas that some companies do just that because doing business here is so expensive. It's time to change that.

With all the illegals and their anchor babies gone from the US...all nearly 100 million of them...the glut of workers back in Mexico would drive the wages/costs down for products...making them cheaper than before.

[Rockyrd]

STOP listening to the propaganda...OUR media is JUST as crooked as Russia's.

YOU don't KNOW if ANY of that is true...you've NEVER been to Syria. The media LIES...until you can accept that FACT...you will be hopelessly lost/fooled.

The "media" is just big corporations run by wealthy people. They lie and market just like other big corporations. Don't get caught up in their lies.



Exactly! Our media is just as corrupt as the Russian media.



STOP believing the propaganda lies!



STOP believing the media's propaganda and lies.



With all the illegals and their anchor babies gone from the US...all nearly 100 million of them...the glut of workers back in Mexico would drive the wages/costs down for products...making them cheaper than before.

Please share where you go to hear the "truth" ?

[ColdNoMore]

Please share where you go to hear the "truth" ?

With links. :popcorn:

[tcxr750]

Boys and Girls let us read this quote from George Orwells, "1984"..."if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought."
"Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others;we are solely interested in power,pure power."

[Don Baldwin]

Please share where you go to hear the "truth" ?

With links. :popcorn:

Personal experience. That's just it...you WON'T find a place with the "truth". EVERYWHERE you go, you're seeing someone else's bias/agenda/propaganda. You MUST start using your OWN mind and senses. Go outside the villages, get away from this area and you'll SEE just how many Hispanics there are. You SEE just how "inhuman" most blacks are. We see a fake image of blacks in the media, part of the lies. We see what 1% are like/live like. The others are NOT like that, they're NOT us.

How do I KNOW the media is full of misdirection and lies? I worked at headquarters, where the plans were made, I saw what we were doing and then a week later...what the media reported. They're not the same. The "news" is political. They report what they are told to report. What they are shown. The media is full of government propaganda. Believe NOTHING you see/hear/read in the "news".

As for race...I get the truth when I go to the square in the villages and then I go to MLK Blvd. I SEE that they are not us.

I get my truth from the carnage to the country caused by affirmative action and quotas...I see how our world ranking has dropped from #1 to #25. I see the EFFECT of quotas when I do business with one of the recipients of said quota. I see the "diversified" schools needing metal detectors and armed guards EVERY DAY. (Yes, 2 crazy kids threatened the villages charter school...IF that had been a 99% black inner city school, there would have been killings already this year.) Because blacks ARE more violent than whites...generally. I see the carnage to neighborhoods and FORMER close-knit communities because once the minorities start moving in, the whole character of the place changes. Friendliness vanishes in diverse neighborhoods. Whole cities are war zones, poor and in disrepair...why? None of them work...WHY can't they clean the place up? It's ALWAYS white people coming in and REALLY organizing them to do ANYTHING. WHAT do they make better? What?

Be afraid of the REAL threat to America...it's slowly becoming Mexico II. They're 1/3 the population now, 100 million anchor babies, their children, and NOW...their children who ARE the majority below age 7. White children are now a minority in the lower grades. They're successfully breeding us out...and you call me a racist for pointing it out! You people are insane. Liberals are insane. Most women are insane. Minorities are calling you suckers...when they take over...they'll hate you as much as they hate me.

White Americans are being obtuse.

[Don Baldwin]

Boys and Girls let us read this quote from George Orwells, "1984"..."if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought."
"Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others;we are solely interested in power,pure power."

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

“Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power”

"Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past."

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever.”

“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”

“Until they became conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.”

“The choice for mankind lies between freedom and happiness and for the great bulk of mankind, happiness is better.”

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”

“Orthodoxy means not thinking–not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.”

“For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable – what then?”


From 1984

[autumnspring]

I don't know why this is a surprise to anyone. I heard people talking about the fact that the president is annoying Mexico, who supposedly has done nothing to us and befriending Russia who supposedly is our enemy.

Well, as we showed back in WWII when we allied with Josef Stalin, the enemy of our enemy is our friend.

What could be better than the two greatest powers in the world partnering to destroy ISIS and al Qeada and all of the other radical Islamist terrorist groups?

As far as Mexico, they may not have done anything to us, but they certainly have not done anything for us. Our foreign policy has been a one way street fro too long. We give and give and give and get nothing in return. And instead of being grateful, countries like Mexico expect more and are hurting our economy by taking our jobs. We need to have relationships with countries that can benefit us or that we can benefit mutually by.

RE: Mexico
Same as our leaders should do and as PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS PROMISED TO DO the leader of Mexico and the new leader of the US should have as their primary duty WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ELECTED OR APPOINTED TO SERVE. In trade it is the art of the deal. Obama, A SCHOOL TEACHER, is simply unqualified to negotiate deals.
RE: RUSSIA
As we tell the story of WWII. As we teach the tale of WWII too few know that RUSSIA suffered more casualties in WWII than all the other alies combined. Are they saints-NOPE. Are we saints-NOPE. We repeatedly hear about the Russians affecting our election. Obama did everything he could to influence elections in Israel-BUT, THAT IS OK WITH THE LIBERALS. It is claimed the Russians have a file on Trump. Trump suggested that if we can't find Hillary's deleted e-mails we should ask the Russians for them. The liberal controlled press was all up in arms. Hillary's CRIMINAL MISHANDLING of should be secret government information the question is not if the Russians have the copies but whether they was to admit to it.
I HOPE WE SPY ON THE RUSSIANS SAME AS ONLY A DARN FOOL, SUCH AS HILLARY, WOULD NOT THINK THE RUSSIANS SPY ON US.

[autumnspring]

No..it comes from the people killed there with chlorine gas, parachute bombs aimed by the Russians directly at hospitals intended to kill civilians.

Same killers in Nov accused the US of slaughter in IRAQ for killing ISIS.

Same people, i.e., Russia who took over Crimeria....

It comes from Children slaughtered in the streets by Russians who then have their own version of Steve Bannon say they are simply fighting ISIS. Who would argue in Russia...nobody...media has been essentially shut down.

The voices are the kids killed by chemical weapons, by patients in hospitals leveled on purpose, and in some cases simply for vengence...

Be patient...it appears our own media is being shut up....you won't have to be bored with facts any longer....simply the voice of the state.

Those children in Syria do not count...they are not Americans, thus cannot make America great again.. Eseentially firing the National Security head and the Joint Chiefs to allow Steve Bannon voice will insure you only hear "Breitbart" from here on.

Those children's voices will be quiet..they had the misfortune of being born Muslim and not American,

Just leave the USA media...google Aleppo and Russia...read it....of course, to make America great again, we must silence them as well.

Happiness is separating the things you can control from the things you can''t. HAVE YOU EVER DONE COMBAT MILITARY SERVICE?
DO YOU HAVE A CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER DOING COMBAT SERVICE? I expect the answer is no.

Yet, you have decided you have the right to tell those who have served what they should do.

[autumnspring]

Personal experience. That's just it...you WON'T find a place with the "truth". EVERYWHERE you go, you're seeing someone else's bias/agenda/propaganda. You MUST start using your OWN mind and senses. Go outside the villages, get away from this area and you'll SEE just how many Hispanics there are. You SEE just how "inhuman" most blacks are. We see a fake image of blacks in the media, part of the lies. We see what 1% are like/live like. The others are NOT like that, they're NOT us.

How do I KNOW the media is full of misdirection and lies? I worked at headquarters, where the plans were made, I saw what we were doing and then a week later...what the media reported. They're not the same. The "news" is political. They report what they are told to report. What they are shown. The media is full of government propaganda. Believe NOTHING you see/hear/read in the "news".

As for race...I get the truth when I go to the square in the villages and then I go to MLK Blvd. I SEE that they are not us.

I get my truth from the carnage to the country caused by affirmative action and quotas...I see how our world ranking has dropped from #1 to #25. I see the EFFECT of quotas when I do business with one of the recipients of said quota. I see the "diversified" schools needing metal detectors and armed guards EVERY DAY. (Yes, 2 crazy kids threatened the villages charter school...IF that had been a 99% black inner city school, there would have been killings already this year.) Because blacks ARE more violent than whites...generally. I see the carnage to neighborhoods and FORMER close-knit communities because once the minorities start moving in, the whole character of the place changes. Friendliness vanishes in diverse neighborhoods. Whole cities are war zones, poor and in disrepair...why? None of them work...WHY can't they clean the place up? It's ALWAYS white people coming in and REALLY organizing them to do ANYTHING. WHAT do they make better? What?

Be afraid of the REAL threat to America...it's slowly becoming Mexico II. They're 1/3 the population now, 100 million anchor babies, their children, and NOW...their children who ARE the majority below age 7. White children are now a minority in the lower grades. They're successfully breeding us out...and you call me a racist for pointing it out! You people are insane. Liberals are insane. Most women are insane. Minorities are calling you suckers...when they take over...they'll hate you as much as they hate me.

White Americans are being obtuse.

It is clear that you a reasonably bright. What is disturbing is that you are so full of MINDLESS HATE.
You mention someone else s bias but you do not see how BIASED you are.
You always post anti black anti Hispanic. Are you aware that Hitler had a Jewish relative? A genetic test is no longer very expensive. YOU MIGHT WELL FIND THAT YOU HATE YOURSELF.
RE: Drop for number one to #25
That sort of survey is usually done, PAID FOR, by someone with a vested interest. If, you are speaking about education, we try to educate all of our people. So our scores are our mass of students competing with another countries top students,

SERIOUSLY, I THINK YOU NEED PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP.
A SURE SIGN OF INSANITY IS WHEN, AS YOU DO, THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY SANE PERSON IN THE WORLD.

[Rockyrd]

Happiness is separating the things you can control from the things you can''t. HAVE YOU EVER DONE COMBAT MILITARY SERVICE?
DO YOU HAVE A CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER DOING COMBAT SERVICE? I expect the answer is no.

Yet, you have decided you have the right to tell those who have served what they should do.

I served in Vietnam in early 60's....left in 1962. I served in total from 1957. Was an adviser a the time....Radioman in Navy. Held a high school buddy in my arms in 1962 as he died from an buried explosive. He was a Navy Corpsman...medic to the Marines there at the time.

I posred my post because i am sick of you people thinking that real people are not dying. Trump just lost his first military and there will be more.

All this BS crap in here and loud blustering sickens me.

I KNOW that children died and are dying in Syria

I KNOW that Russia intentionally killed many of them in the last two years. I KNOW that they did that under the flag to fighting ISIS which was a lie.

Then to be told that it did not happen is insulting at the least. You folks who are simply following the guy in the WH with his false news crap are being played. He will scream that every time he is criticized.

Back a few years under the screen name BUCOO, i began a number of threads about this country and was met with silence. I blamed Obama at that time for not getting involved and still do.

That time is gone now....RUSSIA stepped up....lied and killed.

You people better wake up and soon. You can come on here and preach all you want....you can protect this President of ours who is rapidly running into the arms of RUSSIA and they....are cold blooded killers who simply want to take over more land in Europe.

Out President can call out his own Americans because he does not like his ego to be bruised (lets investigate voter fraud which does not exist and brush off Russia hacking and trying to influence our election) He can mouth off all he wants, but this latest fiasco simply gave so much more reason to ISIS (which in case you were not reading is on the run) to hate us.....lost us help from some Muslims who may have helped us. I am for increased vetting IF necessary but this lumox simply went off hell bent without even looking into. Of course he can get better advice from Bannon that the Director of Intelligence and Joint Chiefs.

Look guys....all of your blabbering on here and NOT EVEN TRYING to find out what is happening is eventually going to be a discussion of deaths if we do not wake up soon.

You are NOT going to ever have your ALL WHITE, ALL MALE, ALL STRAIGHT America that you think you want, so grow up.

Let me tell you something....I oppose almost all of Obama foreign policy actions and most of his internal policies, BUT

He was an honorable man...he had morals.....he had character personally. Our current President is not honorable...has not moral and no character and that scare me because he is hiding things and is immature even at his age. LOUDMOUTHING the Royal Family for what reason ? Because someone disagreed with him...grow up Mr President......be a man.