View Full Version : Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president.
Guest
07-05-2009, 09:38 AM
Be honest now!
Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents? Answer the question on its own merits.
Guest
07-05-2009, 09:51 AM
Be honest now!
Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents. Answer the question on its own merits.
Sounds like your question is slanted against her. How about this for the question. How many people think Mrs. Palin would make a great President? I find that the poll takers can influence the polls by how they arrange the questions.
Guest
07-05-2009, 10:44 AM
My question is not slanted against her, where as your question is slanted in her favor. If you are unable to answer my question honestly, please don't change it to suit yourself.
Guest
07-05-2009, 10:58 AM
Honestly, I do think she would be a good president (definitely better than Bush), but I will never be able to convince those that don't like her that she would be a good president. If the economy crumbles from the democratic social spending, she will be elected in 2012. No other conservatives other than loud Rush have the conservative notoriety to push the conservative economic agenda if the economy tanks. If the economy does not tank in the next 3 years, Democrats will be in power for 25 years and they will have earned that right. I was raised in a conservative Democratic family. I hope Democrats can save the economic future of this country but I sincerely doubt it. Their economic policies have leaned too far left.
Jim
Fair and unbalanced(according to my wife) and ready to get blasted.
Guest
07-05-2009, 11:02 AM
My question is not slanted against her. If you are unable to answer my question honestly, please don't change it to suit yourself.
Maybe my bad.
Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president.
I have read that question a few times and....How does this sound?
Does anybody really think Obama is a good president?
Ok..This is my spin:
I believe that the most important quality of being a president is judging people. I believe the people he chooses to surround himself is the foundation of a good or bad Cabinet. President Reagan had the quality to pick the right people for the right job. He knew how to designate.
A good example...President Bush decided to choose a different General and a different strategy for the Iraq War. It worked.
Obama seemed to pick candidates that were tax cheats. Maybe a character issue?
Guest
07-05-2009, 11:10 AM
Maybe my bad.
Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president.
I have read that question a few times and....How does this sound?
Does anybody really think Obama is a good president?
Ok..This is my spin:
I believe that the most important quality of being a president is judging people. I believe the people he chooses to surround himself is the foundation of a good or bad Cabinet. President Reagan had the quality to pick the right people for the right job. He knew how to designate.
A good example...President Bush decided to choose a different General and a different strategy for the Iraq War. It worked.
Obama seemed to pick candidates that were tax cheats. Maybe a character issue?
I asked that she not be compared to current or past presidents. Can you answer my question?
Guest
07-05-2009, 11:26 AM
I asked that she not be compared to current or past presidents. Can you answer my question?
Sorry...Didn't mean to compare......I think she would make an excellent President because she has the qualities that I admire to make the right decisions and surround herself with the right people.
Guest
07-05-2009, 12:01 PM
Be honest now!
Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents. Answer the question on its own merits.
Semantics/grammar are important.
There was no question, such as Would Sarah Palin be a good president? Instead, there was a statement, Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president. with no question mark and followed by: Be honest now! Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents. Answer the question on its own merits.
The "anybody really think" and the rest of the post is indeed a negative slant, whether intentional or not.
In spite of it all, I'm one of those "anybody" folk who think she'd be as good as any of the pseudo-royalty types who claim the presidency as a birthright or believe their public speaking skills and TV image justify a vote. Personal castigation of anyone based on gender, religion and race - and taking cheap potshots at one's children - should be long-gone from the political scene, but seems to creep back into the fray when candidates lack the public speaking skills of a John Barrymore, the salesmanship of a community organizer, or when the party decides ]the end justifies the means.
Would Ms. Palin be a better president than the current 2nd-in-line for the office (Ms. Pelosi) - any day of the week!
Guest
07-05-2009, 12:07 PM
I don't think she'd make a "good" President and certainly wouldn't be a "great" President. She simply does not have the education or experience to be the chief executive of arguably the most important country in the world. I seriously wonder who she might surround herself with in forming an administration. She has been wildly popular because of her pithy campaign statements and her "everyman" appeal, but I believe her ability to lead would erode very quickly were she elected. I'd also guess that she would have no real respect among other world leaders. There simply has to be a more experienced candidate who has demonstrated his/her ability to understand the policy decisions facing the country, who might be expected to assemble an administration from among people he/she knew personally and could have confidence in, and have demonstrated true leadership ability--not just mass popularity--either in government or the private sector.
Ask yourself the question: is it likely that she would be qualified to be the CEO of any of the world's largest companies? The answer is obvious, and if she wouldn't qualify for any of those jobs, how would she be qualified for POTUS?
If the GOP can't find a candidate that satisfies most of all of those criteria, the two-party system is in a lot more trouble than we think it is.
Again, don't respond with an assessment of any of the recent POTUS--Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush or Obama. The question posed by Talk Host was forward-looking and doesn't call for a recitation of opinions about past Presidents.
Guest
07-05-2009, 12:23 PM
Chief Executive... State of Alaska..Case closed.
Guest
07-05-2009, 12:28 PM
She simply does not have the education or experience to be the chief executive of arguably the most important country in the world.
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Ask yourself the question: is it likely that she would be qualified to be the CEO of any of the world's largest companies? The answer is obvious, and if she wouldn't qualify for any of those jobs, how would she be qualified for POTUS
And what is the correct "education and experience" to be POTUS?
Would the current POTUS be qualified to serve as CEO of a Fortune 100? If so, which one would have him?
She is definitely "of the people" and appears street-smart to the nth degree. Folk like that normally know their strengths and limitations, and tend to surround themselves with the most competent as a learned survival skill or they don't survive too long.
Guest
07-05-2009, 12:40 PM
1) Palin elected twice to city council
2) Served 2- 3year terms as Mayor of Wasilla(1996-2002)
3)Chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.
4) Elected Governor of Alaska.
Sorry, no community organizing on her resume.:o
Guest
07-05-2009, 12:48 PM
that hold office in Washington today. NONE ARE QUALIFIED but managed to get elected or re-elected.
Sarah Palin has the capability to be a POTUS in training, just as the current and preceding ones have.
She has the quality of spontaneity that most politicians lack or do not employ...which means a more realistic answer would be forth coming. Those who ponder, evaluate, think too much are weighing the audience and determining what they think wants to be heard. Yes, with spontaneous answers comes, gaffs and possible mistakes....but they are usually real.
Her term as a Governor certainly provides more qualification than Hollywood or the legal education system.
She is certainly as believable as any of the incumbents in any position in Washington, DC.
A definite plus is that she is not a Washington insider.
And employing the advice that is especially applicable to the current POTUS...watch what she does not what she says.....she has much better qualification in that regard.
And lastly I conclude that since she did not turn the state of Alaska into a free money spending socialist state, she would take that same value to the WH.
As demonstrated by way too many prior POTUS and lawmakers.....education really does not show much result in the scheme of things.
btk
She would not be my first choice, but if nominated I would vote for her.
Guest
07-05-2009, 12:49 PM
She simply does not have the education or experience to be the chief executive of arguably the most important country in the world.
And Obama does? Oh Please.
Would she make a great President? No. Would be make a great VP. Yes.
After that, we'd have to see and judge her on performance.
Guest
07-05-2009, 01:20 PM
C'mon folks if she looked like Madeline Albright instead of the way she does you wouldn't give her the right time of day.
Guest
07-05-2009, 01:28 PM
Since the conversation has drifted to CEO's, I find it amazing that Romney has been slighted be the mainstream. Or maybe it is his credentials that has the MSM running scared.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney
After reading his biography...you will wonder what this amazing man could accomplish in the White House.
Guest
07-05-2009, 01:46 PM
I do not believe that right now she is qualified to be President nor Vice President. However with more experience in National and World conditions, she may be ready in 2016 or 2020. For 2012 I think Pawlenty and/or Crist would be better choice.
I hope the discussions on this thread doesn't get out of hand like the other one.
Guest
07-05-2009, 01:54 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07052009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/run__sarah__run_177673.htm
YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!
Guest
07-05-2009, 02:14 PM
C'mon folks if she looked like Madeline Albright instead of the way she does you wouldn't give her the right time of day.
You re probably right for how a lot of folks vote - male and female - when it comes to the "how attractive" factor. Since John Kennedy, that's been a both-party criteria.
However, I like it when folk come from the mainstream, as opposed to the party "select" list. I'm surprised that the Democratic Party continues to look solely at the party elite and not present candidates "of the people" such as Ms. Palin. The Dems have some great "of the people" potential candidates, (such as Barbara Mikulski, Jack Reed, Jon Tester and Bobby Bright to name a few), yet the Dems keep avoiding folks like them for some reason.
Ms. Palin could have come onto the scene wearing burlap and having a "how attractive" factor akin to Minnie Pearl and still have been a hit. She's the female "Joe, the plumber" and people can identify with her, and see folk like her (and most of us) as similarly qualified for top office as any Ivy Leaguer or any party legacy-type.
We need more like her, from both the major parties, to get back to "of the people."
Guest
07-05-2009, 02:28 PM
Topper, I would take Palin over Crist any day. He could be another RINO.
Guest
07-05-2009, 03:09 PM
I do not believe at this time that she would make a good President. I think she needs a lot more seasoning, more experience, and less talk about seeing Russia on a clear day.
Come to think of it, how much experience did Obama bring to the floor?
Guest
07-05-2009, 03:31 PM
If Crist gets the Republican nomination for Senate I'll either vote for the Democrat or not vote.
Guest
07-05-2009, 03:47 PM
Chief Executive... State of Alaska..Case closed.
But she is quitting before her term is complete. Not a good sign. Case closed.
Guest
07-05-2009, 04:34 PM
But she is quitting before her term is complete. Not a good sign. Case closed.
Whoopee-Doo......Plenty of senators, governors quit to run. When one window closes...another opens. Besides, she did such a good job..it will be easy for her second-in-command to finish the last year.:coolsmiley:
Guest
07-05-2009, 04:36 PM
a good sign. The media and political trench diggers will have been out in force all weekend to oil up the propaganda machine starting afresh tomorrow.
btk
Guest
07-05-2009, 05:12 PM
But she is quitting before her term is complete. Not a good sign. Case closed.
If she is going to initiate and run a campaign for another office, she's doing it the right way by quitting her job as Governor of Alaska, rather than being a part-time governor and full-time candidate. I never did like it when a politician would spend a year or so on the campaign trail (Llke Obama, Biden and McCain did) and still drew a full salary, office costs, etc. as if they were really fulfilling full-time what they were elected to do. That's just screwing the taxpayer when these folk continue to take the money and not do the job.
Guest
07-05-2009, 05:19 PM
She’ll be much bigger now and can play on the national stage without constantly setting off state ethics investigations by loons, parasites and liberals. She’s too big to be a lame-duck governor stuck dealing with fishing licenses in Anchorage right now.
Guest
07-05-2009, 05:54 PM
She’ll be much bigger now and can play on the national stage without constantly setting off state ethics investigations by loons, parasites and liberals. She’s too big to be a lame-duck governor stuck dealing with fishing licenses in Anchorage right now.
The irony is that Ms. Palin has been a governor (12/4/2006-07/31/2009) as long as Mr. Obama was a senator (1/4/2005-/11/6/2008, less over a year campaigning full-time to be president). Ms. Palin also had 10 years' elected time as a city official. And no one seems to be complaining that Mr. Obama was vocal when elected as senator that he would complete his term, but tossed that promise while still drawing a senate paycheck. So, double-standarding is alive and well.
Guest
07-05-2009, 06:29 PM
My question is not slanted against her, where as your question is slanted in her favor. If you are unable to answer my question honestly, please don't change it to suit yourself.
Honestly, I thought that you were against Palin and would not take seriously any who would be dumb enough to think that she would be a good president.
It was in the wording.
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition.
PS How do you judge the qualifications of a potential President without comparing to some real or imagined standard.
Based on your restrictions, I do not feel that I have the education, experience, background knowledge unmitigated Gall or inflated ego to give an honest evaluation.
Just my opinion
Good luck convincing people that you are not bias. You'll need to be more convincing,
I think she would make s more than adequate President but I don't think that she should run.
Guest
07-05-2009, 06:42 PM
But she is quitting before her term is complete. Not a good sign. Case closed.
If she is running, at lease she has stepped down as Gov and not screwing the people while not doing her job.
Before you mention her VP run, she was drafted.
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
Guest
07-05-2009, 06:57 PM
While I agree with those who feel your question was a bit skewed (how does...does anyone think that TOTV would be a good community connection..sound to you :))
I have no idea whether she would or not; as Yoda said or implied..that is above my pay grade.....we have had great and good presidents that on the surface did not appear it would be...and we have had bad presidents that appeared to be a lock.
She has not had the national platform except as a VP when, lets face it, you simply carry the banner and philosophies of the Presidential candidate.
I have no idea where she stands on most issues !
Guest
07-05-2009, 07:05 PM
She’ll be much bigger now and can play on the national stage without constantly setting off state ethics investigations by loons, parasites and liberals. She’s too big to be a lame-duck governor stuck dealing with fishing licenses in Anchorage right now.
Dealing with fishing licenses in Anchorage.......I finally have found out what she has been doing!
Guest
07-05-2009, 07:21 PM
I think she actually damaged McCain's chances of winning. More of a negative impact than a positive one, as far as I felt. So, my answer is no, I don't think she would make a good president.
Guest
07-05-2009, 07:32 PM
The irony is that Ms. Palin has been a governor (12/4/2006-07/31/2009) as long as Mr. Obama was a senator (1/4/2005-/11/6/2008, less over a year campaigning full-time to be president). Ms. Palin also had 10 years' elected time as a city official. And no one seems to be complaining that Mr. Obama was vocal when elected as senator that he would complete his term, but tossed that promise while still drawing a senate paycheck. So, double-standarding is alive and well.
That is a very good point. Also, a senator's job, such as it is, doesn't enthrall the responsibilities that a governor has. It is more of an executive role as a senator only has to vote yes-no, or if he can't decide and doesn't want to take a stand he can do the coward thing like Obama did and vote "present"
Also that tired old liberal taking point of Palin bringing down McCain is an out right LIE. People forget that McCain's poll numbers shot way up after Palin got on the ticket.
Guest
07-05-2009, 07:38 PM
I think she actually damaged McCain's chances of winning. More of a negative impact than a positive one, as far as I felt. So, my answer is no, I don't think she would make a good president.
You need to team up with Talk Host - equally biased and equally misguided. Sarah Palin had a great track record as governor of the largest state is the union. More natural resources, more diversity of climate and wildlife, more coastline, etc than any other state. Every state has its challenges, but Palin has done an exceptional job facing great challenges. One can contend that states such as CA.FL.TX present a greater challenge, but certainly no sane person would equate the task of beings a governor of such states as Delaware, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut or New Hampshire to that of being Governor of Alaska.
As pointed out, she is doing the honorable thing if she intends to run for another office. McCain, Obama, Biden, Clinton etc showed no such principles. I would be much more likely to vote for her than any of the others mentioned.
Guest
07-05-2009, 07:40 PM
That is a very good point. Also, a senator's job, such as it is, doesn't enthrall the responsibilities that a governor has. It is more of an executive role as a senator only has to vote yes-no, or if he can't decide and doesn't want to take a stand he can do the coward thing like Obama did and vote "present"
Also that tired old liberal taking point of Palin bringing down McCain is an out right LIE. People forget that McCain's poll numbers shot way up after Palin got on the ticket.
I stayed away from comparsion, but if you simply compare experience, Palin has it hands down over Obama. What Obama had was a machine, well oiled over years (at the expense of taxpayers..not expense as in money but in attention to his duties) !
I admit that alone is not the criteria for electing a President....but those who tout Obama as so much more experienced and qualified make a really bad point to their detrement.
Guest
07-05-2009, 08:11 PM
I stayed away from comparsion, but if you simply compare experience, Palin has it hands down over Obama. What Obama had was a machine, well oiled over years (at the expense of taxpayers..not expense as in money but in attention to his duties) !
I admit that alone is not the criteria for electing a President....but those who tout Obama as so much more experienced and qualified make a really bad point to their detrement.
Another bit of irony - The last Democratic governor to be elected president came from a state with 4 times the population of Alaska, but only one-13th the geographic size of Alaska, does not border any foreign nations (Alaska borders two), nor has any coastline (Alaska's is almost 25% of USA's entire coastline).
Considering these factors, it would seem that governing Alaska is a greater challenge than Arkansas, yet the former Governor of Arkansas who was elected president has become a Democratic icon.
Guest
07-05-2009, 08:43 PM
I stayed away from comparsion, but if you simply compare experience, Palin has it hands down over Obama. What Obama had was a machine, well oiled over years (at the expense of taxpayers..not expense as in money but in attention to his duties) !
I admit that alone is not the criteria for electing a President....but those who tout Obama as so much more experienced and qualified make a really bad point to their detrement.
If u want to compare her with someone, compare her with Bush.
2 peas in a pod.
Guest
07-05-2009, 10:08 PM
Snipe! Snipe! Snipe! and no substance.......barf
Must be the party credo.
btk
Guest
07-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president?
Be honest now!
Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents? Answer the question on its own merits.
NO.
Guest
07-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Considering these factors, it would seem that governing Alaska is a greater challenge than Arkansas, yet the former Governor of Arkansas who was elected president has become a Democratic icon
How apropos, that a disgraced, impeached, liar and cheat, is the icon of the democrats.
Guest
07-05-2009, 11:20 PM
Excerpted from just one page...
....."investigations by loons, parasites and liberals."
...."do the coward thing like Obama did and vote "present"
"How apropos, that a disgraced, impeached, liar and cheat, is the icon of the democrats."
oh...and you didn't mention the disgrace of George Washington cutting down the cherry tree.
Guest
07-06-2009, 07:08 AM
Excerpted from just one page...
....."investigations by loons, parasites and liberals."
...."do the coward thing like Obama did and vote "present"
"How apropos, that a disgraced, impeached, liar and cheat, is the icon of the democrats."
oh...and you didn't mention the disgrace of George Washington cutting down the cherry tree.
Now that is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Point
Guest
07-06-2009, 07:14 AM
Do not think she would make a good president!!! MHO!! It was a fair question to ask... Sure is funny how fast Obama got thrown under the bus 2 or 3 post into this thread. I thought it was a question for personal opinion on if Palin would be a good choice for president. But you know how it goes.
Nothing Like quitting the job.... Sure is funny how the FBI piped up and said she is not under investigation. Makes you think things????
Guest
07-06-2009, 07:39 AM
Excerpted from just one page...
....."investigations by loons, parasites and liberals."
...."do the coward thing like Obama did and vote "present"
"How apropos, that a disgraced, impeached, liar and cheat, is the icon of the democrats."
oh...and you didn't mention the disgrace of George Washington cutting down the cherry tree.
chilout Well. I'm glad someone is paying attention. lol The EPA should start an immediate investigation on George's harvesting.
It is amazing how Sarah Palin brings out the spirit in everybody. Just like she energized the Republican Convention. You go Girl!!!!!!!:thumbup:
Guest
07-06-2009, 08:11 AM
Do not think she would make a good president!!! MHO!! It was a fair question to ask... Sure is funny how fast Obama got thrown under the bus 2 or 3 post into this thread. I thought it was a question for personal opinion on if Palin would be a good choice for president. But you know how it goes.
Nothing Like quitting the job.... Sure is funny how the FBI piped up and said she is not under investigation. Makes you think things????
It usually takes only a couple of replies, if that many, before most of the threads go down the same road. No matter what the title is.
Guest
07-06-2009, 08:27 AM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/06/liberal-media-trio-tears-down-worthy-palin/?feat=home_headlines&
The assassination of Sarah Palin - by media.
Good article by Breitbart explaining the media's bias against Sarah.
Guest
07-06-2009, 08:30 AM
C'mon folks if she looked like Madeline Albright instead of the way she does you wouldn't give her the right time of day.
Probably not. Would Obama be president if he were a white, non-charismatic man? I don't think so. That's just the way we are in America. We elect people who we think are what we'd like to be. With every poor decision that he makes, the media counters with pictures of date night, children playing at the White House or the new dog!
I voted for McCain/Palin but the past few months have made me question her judgement. This last decision is very puzzling to me and I think hurts her credibility even more. Of course, I am still glad I voted for her ticket and if I could believe she'd surround herself with competent people, I believe she could do at least as well as what we have now.
Guest
07-06-2009, 08:40 AM
That is a very interesting analysis. Early in his campaign there was this unwritten law that nobody could say the least bit thing that might sound prejudice. So, to compensate, the media bent over backwards to avoid the racial issue and over-praised Obama, actually giving the impression that he could do no wrong. Hmmmmmm
Guest
07-06-2009, 09:17 AM
Probably not. Would Obama be president if he were a white, non-charismatic man? I don't think so. That's just the way we are in America. We elect people who we think are what we'd like to be. With every poor decision that he makes, the media counters with pictures of date night, children playing at the White House or the new dog!
I voted for McCain/Palin but the past few months have made me question her judgement. This last decision is very puzzling to me and I think hurts her credibility even more. Of course, I am still glad I voted for her ticket and if I could believe she'd surround herself with competent people, I believe she could do at least as well as what we have now.
I couldn't agree with you more. I don't know what her motives are now but for sure she could do a better job than present rulers. :agree::agree:
Guest
07-06-2009, 09:37 AM
Probably not. Would Obama be president if he were a white, non-charismatic man? I don't think so. That's just the way we are in America. We elect people who we think are what we'd like to be. With every poor decision that he makes, the media counters with pictures of date night, children playing at the White House or the new dog!
I voted for McCain/Palin but the past few months have made me question her judgement. This last decision is very puzzling to me and I think hurts her credibility even more. Of course, I am still glad I voted for her ticket and if I could believe she'd surround herself with competent people, I believe she could do at least as well as what we have now.
Here is a good read.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=29995
Notable Quotables, 10 months of Media Scorn for Sarah Palin:
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2009/20090704121508.aspx
Guest
07-06-2009, 01:16 PM
Surprising, coming from Fox News.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2009%2F 07%2F06%2Ffox-news-contributor-rips_n_226370.html&feature=player_embedded
Guest
07-06-2009, 01:32 PM
Ho Hum...GOP Palin-Hater Lizz Trotta.....Typical MSM talking points...She makes Sean Hannity seem impartial....
So, what should be the response to your video? What response were you looking for? If your looking for a tit for tat video...nope not here...getting tired .......
Guest
07-06-2009, 01:51 PM
She is too sensitive and cannot take the heat. Her rambling resignation speech told it all for me..... ded fish go with the flow.. WOW betcha she stayed up all night thinking of that... WINK
Guest
07-06-2009, 01:58 PM
She is too sensitive and cannot take the heat. Her rambling resignation speech told it all for me..... ded fish go with the flow.. WOW betcha she stayed up all night thinking of that... WINK
Yep..I know what you mean...Almost like Obama crying because Fox picks on him.LOL:pepper2:
Guest
07-06-2009, 02:03 PM
It usually takes only a couple of replies, if that many, before most of the threads go down the same road. No matter what the title is.
I agree.. That is why I mostly stay out of this area. With Politics you can never be right. :shrug:
Guest
07-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Sorry, I am soooo shallow.... Don't know what makes a "good" president.... but, gosh-darn, she would sure be a GOOD LOOKING president!
Guest
07-06-2009, 02:18 PM
Do not think she would make a good president!!! MHO!! It was a fair question to ask... Sure is funny how fast Obama got thrown under the bus 2 or 3 post into this thread. I thought it was a question for personal opinion on if Palin would be a good choice for president. But you know how it goes.
Nothing Like quitting the job.... Sure is funny how the FBI piped up and said she is not under investigation. Makes you think things????
Didn't hear that about the FBI.:shrug:
Guest
07-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Now that is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Point
Yep good points:coolsmiley:
Guest
07-06-2009, 02:21 PM
I agree.. That is why I mostly stay out of this area. With Politics you can never be right. :shrug:
Yep..Not for the faint of heart. LOL
Guest
07-06-2009, 04:15 PM
You need to team up with Talk Host - equally biased and equally misguided. Sarah Palin had a great track record as governor of the largest state is the union. More natural resources, more diversity of climate and wildlife, more coastline, etc than any other state. Every state has its challenges, but Palin has done an exceptional job facing great challenges. One can contend that states such as CA.FL.TX present a greater challenge, but certainly no sane person would equate the task of beings a governor of such states as Delaware, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut or New Hampshire to that of being Governor of Alaska.
As pointed out, she is doing the honorable thing if she intends to run for another office. McCain, Obama, Biden, Clinton etc showed no such principles. I would be much more likely to vote for her than any of the others mentioned. All I know is numbers, and after McCain announced her as his running mate, what happened with the numbers???!!!
Guest
07-06-2009, 04:22 PM
All I know is numbers, and after McCain announced her as his running mate, what happened with the numbers???!!!
Actually, McCain's numbers got a boost when he announced Sarah Palin as his running mate. Maybe he was trying to get the Clinton voters by having a woman on the ticket? It made it a tighter race but McCain was the wrong man for the job. Alot of people pinched their collective noses and voted for him because of the alternative.
Guest
07-06-2009, 04:54 PM
Actually, McCain's numbers got a boost when he announced Sarah Palin as his running mate. Maybe he was trying to get the Clinton voters by having a woman on the ticket? It made it a tighter race but McCain was the wrong man for the job. Alot of people pinched their collective noses and voted for him because of the alternative.
When Gov. Palin visited TV during the campaign, the event filled LSL to the breaking point, and TV had to broadcast the event over its community access channel to accommodate the response. She definitely brought life into what would have been a very dull Republican campaign, and helped get rid of the Republican ticket image as "fuddy-duddy."
Just finished watching the History Channel's "Presidents" series. It didn't show more than two or three past presidents as being "larger than life" persons - the rest were fairly ordinary people caught up in the times and having to respond as best they could. What was really evident from the series is that the USA has survvived in spite of many presidents, and that the country is much greater than the presidential office-holder. That thought does give me hope for the future....
So, Gov. Palin - as one "of the people" - becoming a potential presidential candidate (and winning) is not a frightening thought.
Guest
07-06-2009, 05:35 PM
Personally, I don't think Sarah would make a good president. If the Republican Party is looking for a women candidate, here's is list of better choices than Sarah, such as:
Senators: Lisa Murkowski, Alaska(?!?); Olympia Snowe, Maine; Susan Collins, Maine; Elizabeth Dole North Carolina; Kay Bailey Hutchison, Texas
Governors: Oline Walker, Utah; Linda Lingle, Hawaii, M. Jodi Rell, Connecticut
Members of the House: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Florida; Deborah Pryce, Ohio; Barbara Cubin, Wyoming; Sue Myrick North Carolina; Jo Ann Emerson, Missouri; Kay Granger, Texas; Mary Bono, California; Heather Wilson , New Mexico; Judith Borg Biggert , Illinois; Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia; Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee; Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida; Candice Miller, Michigan; Marilyn Musgrave, Colorado; Thelma Drake, Virginia; Virginia Foxx, North Carolina; Cathy McMorris Rodgers, West Virginia; Jean Schmidt, Ohio
Cabinet: Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State; Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor; Margaret Spellings, Secretary of Education; Mary Peters, Secretary of Transportation; Susan Schwab, US Special Trade Representative
I don't think Republications really want a women president just yet. Having Sara run with McCain was obviously made to get voters unhappy with Hiliary not getting the Presidential nomination on the Republican side.
Guest
07-06-2009, 05:52 PM
Personally, I don't think Sarah would make a good president. If the Republican Party is looking for a women candidate, here's is list of better choices than Sarah, such as:
Senators: Lisa Murkowski, Alaska(?!?); Olympia Snowe, Maine; Susan Collins, Maine; Elizabeth Dole North Carolina; Kay Bailey Hutchison, Texas
Governors: Oline Walker, Utah; Linda Lingle, Hawaii, M. Jodi Rell, Connecticut
Members of the House: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Florida; Deborah Pryce, Ohio; Barbara Cubin, Wyoming; Sue Myrick North Carolina; Jo Ann Emerson, Missouri; Kay Granger, Texas; Mary Bono, California; Heather Wilson , New Mexico; Judith Borg Biggert , Illinois; Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia; Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee; Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida; Candice Miller, Michigan; Marilyn Musgrave, Colorado; Thelma Drake, Virginia; Virginia Foxx, North Carolina; Cathy McMorris Rodgers, West Virginia; Jean Schmidt, Ohio
Cabinet: Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State; Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor; Margaret Spellings, Secretary of Education; Mary Peters, Secretary of Transportation; Susan Schwab, US Special Trade Representative
I don't think Republications really want a women president just yet. Having Sara run with McCain was obviously made to get voters unhappy with Hiliary not getting the Presidential nomination on the Republican side.
So, you think every one of those women is better qualified or are you just being facetious? How about narrowing the field down to three? Now that would be interesting.
Guest
07-06-2009, 06:12 PM
How about narrowing the field down to three? Now that would be interesting.You're so right, Keedy. The mediocrity of that list is alarming. The list represents fully 5% of both the House and Senate and several pretty important cabinet secretaries.
Personally, I can't project any of them into the oval office. In comparison, Sarah Palin is probably just as attractive a candidate as any on that list. But that sure doesn't suggest that any of them would be the type of person that 300 million people should feel comfortable following and being affected by their judgement in governing the country.
Where did all our leaders go?
Guest
07-06-2009, 06:19 PM
Surprising, coming from Fox News.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2009%2F 07%2F06%2Ffox-news-contributor-rips_n_226370.html&feature=player_embedded
Who is Liz Trotta? First time I have seen her.
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
Guest
07-06-2009, 06:20 PM
Personally, I don't think Sarah would make a good president. If the Republican Party is looking for a women candidate, here's is list of better choices than Sarah, such as:
Senators: Lisa Murkowski, Alaska(?!?); Olympia Snowe, Maine; Susan Collins, Maine; Elizabeth Dole North Carolina; Kay Bailey Hutchison, Texas
Governors: Oline Walker, Utah; Linda Lingle, Hawaii, M. Jodi Rell, Connecticut
Members of the House: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Florida; Deborah Pryce, Ohio; Barbara Cubin, Wyoming; Sue Myrick North Carolina; Jo Ann Emerson, Missouri; Kay Granger, Texas; Mary Bono, California; Heather Wilson , New Mexico; Judith Borg Biggert , Illinois; Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia; Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee; Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida; Candice Miller, Michigan; Marilyn Musgrave, Colorado; Thelma Drake, Virginia; Virginia Foxx, North Carolina; Cathy McMorris Rodgers, West Virginia; Jean Schmidt, Ohio
Cabinet: Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State; Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor; Margaret Spellings, Secretary of Education; Mary Peters, Secretary of Transportation; Susan Schwab, US Special Trade Representative
I don't think Republications really want a women president just yet. Having Sara run with McCain was obviously made to get voters unhappy with Hiliary not getting the Presidential nomination on the Republican side.
There are several women from both the major parties who would be excellent potential candidates - Pres & VP. So far, the Dems have limited themselves to two (one as a VP candidate and one as a potential candidate, despite several very good "of the people" choices being available) and the Reps have also limited themselves to one (who is "of the people").
Ms. Palin as a very pro-active Republican forces the Republican Party to examine itself from the inside-out, determine what its core values and principles are, and what kind of platform it will support. If that activism results in a Republican party with a clearer image, vision and mission, then the "two party system" is enhanced. If that activism results in her becoming a standard-bearer for the Republican Party, so be it.
One would think that the Democratic Party would be overjoyed should Ms. Palin become the Republican standard-bearer over the next few years. Party strategy would be easier to formulate, since the potential opponent would be well-known and a litany of sound-bites could be accumulated over that time frame.
During the next couple of years, we may get to learn a lot more about Ms. Palin, and as we learn more about her and her views, she may be a pleasant surprise to many. Time will tell.
Guest
07-06-2009, 07:24 PM
There are several women from both the major parties who would be excellent potential candidates - Pres & VP. So far, the Dems have limited themselves to two (one as a VP candidate and one as a potential candidate, despite several very good "of the people" choices being available) and the Reps have also limited themselves to one (who is "of the people").
Ms. Palin as a very pro-active Republican forces the Republican Party to examine itself from the inside-out, determine what its core values and principles are, and what kind of platform it will support. If that activism results in a Republican party with a clearer image, vision and mission, then the "two party system" is enhanced. If that activism results in her becoming a standard-bearer for the Republican Party, so be it.
One would think that the Democratic Party would be overjoyed should Ms. Palin become the Republican standard-bearer over the next few years. Party strategy would be easier to formulate, since the potential opponent would be well-known and a litany of sound-bites could be accumulated over that time frame.
During the next couple of years, we may get to learn a lot more about Ms. Palin, and as we learn more about her and her views, she may be a pleasant surprise to many. Time will tell.
Here is a good analysis by a respected source.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/sarah_palin_the_best_is_yet_to.html
Guest
07-06-2009, 08:37 PM
Who is Liz Trotta? First time I have seen her.
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
http://www.foxnews.com/bios/talent/li-trotta/
You may remember her for her kill Obama/Osama off-color "joke".
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/05/25/liz-trotta-as-a-suggestion-that-someone-knock-off-osama-umm-obama-well-both-if-we-could
Guest
07-06-2009, 08:41 PM
Deny that
Guest
07-06-2009, 09:48 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/bios/talent/li-trotta/
You may remember her for her kill Obama/Osama off-color "joke".
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/05/25/liz-trotta-as-a-suggestion-that-someone-knock-off-osama-umm-obama-well-both-if-we-could
Do you actually expect anyone to give any credence to a fifteen second news clip that clearly omitted what had been said before and what was being said at the end of a very artful edit? Kayader, you're much smatter than this. Anyone who spends even five minutes browsing the crook and liars site will realize that this is an extreme left wing site dedicated to the destruction of any and all conservatives. The Clinton's politics of personal destruction continues alive and well.
Guest
07-06-2009, 10:20 PM
All I know is numbers, and after McCain announced her as his running mate, what happened with the numbers???!!!
Yes, RCT, let's look at the numbers. I can show numbers that Governor Palin was a conscientious, conservative and competent Governor. Can you do the same for Obama? Palin had a budget surplus in Alaska, Obama has quadrupled the deficit in just five months. Unemployment has gone from e little over 6% to 10% under his leadership. This after assuring the American people that if the stimulus package was passes, unemployment would remain at less than 8%. We have twenty some czars supervising cabinet operation and all parts of the economy without congressional oversight or Senate consent to their appointment. We have gone to a government ownership or control of the banking industry, the automobile industry, the energy business and soon, in all probability, the health care industry. The last time I looked up the terms this was socialism and bordering on naziism. Yes, I said the N word - I have always avoided it in the past as extremist, but our National, no longer Federal Government is in the hands of extremists, as certainly as any government in history going to authoritarian government practices and national control of the economy. The United States is adopting a Nationalist - Socialist form of government whether we choose to admit it or not.
In another thread, I posted the observation and amazement of people in the Soviet Union at the speed at which the 'sheeple' of the United States were running over the cliff to a marxist economy despite its failures in other economies around the world. Perhaps we should have listened more carefully to the futurists that forecast the breakup of the United States in the year 2010.
Guest
07-06-2009, 10:33 PM
Yep, and with the media as an accomplice. Imagine the last administration trying to get away with these shenanigans? The MSM would be fit to be tied.
Guest
07-07-2009, 12:15 AM
Do you actually expect anyone to give any credence to a fifteen second news clip that clearly omitted what had been said before and what was being said at the end of a very artful edit? Kayader, you're much smatter than this. Anyone who spends even five minutes browsing the crook and liars site will realize that this is an extreme left wing site dedicated to the destruction of any and all conservatives. The Clinton's politics of personal destruction continues alive and well.
Exactly!! Liz Trotta is a Conservative.:clap2:
Now, go back and listen to her remarks on Sarah Palin. It sounds very much like Fox News, and their talking heads, are throwing her under the bus.
Guest
07-07-2009, 07:30 AM
In the scheme of things...who really cares. You can play tit for tat opinion video's all day. What really matters is her record in Alaska. Before she got thrown into the lion's den last year, she had an extraordinary approval rating in her home state. OMG If the press had done their homework and really scrutinized the current administration, we might not be in the mess were in now.The poor woman has received vicious attacks on her family. Why is it taboo to go after the Clinton's daughters and Obama's children yet make Ms. Palin open season.
Remember when someone made a joke about Chelsea Clinton's looks when they were in the WH. The mainstream media had a fit and editorialized that public people's families were "off limits" ...What happened to those standards?
Guest
07-07-2009, 07:37 AM
Personally, I don't think Sarah would make a good president. If the Republican Party is looking for a women candidate, here's is list of better choices than Sarah, such as:
Senators: Lisa Murkowski, Alaska(?!?); Olympia Snowe, Maine; Susan Collins, Maine; Elizabeth Dole North Carolina; Kay Bailey Hutchison, Texas
Governors: Oline Walker, Utah; Linda Lingle, Hawaii, M. Jodi Rell, Connecticut
Members of the House: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Florida; Deborah Pryce, Ohio; Barbara Cubin, Wyoming; Sue Myrick North Carolina; Jo Ann Emerson, Missouri; Kay Granger, Texas; Mary Bono, California; Heather Wilson , New Mexico; Judith Borg Biggert , Illinois; Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia; Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee; Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida; Candice Miller, Michigan; Marilyn Musgrave, Colorado; Thelma Drake, Virginia; Virginia Foxx, North Carolina; Cathy McMorris Rodgers, West Virginia; Jean Schmidt, Ohio
Cabinet: Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State; Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor; Margaret Spellings, Secretary of Education; Mary Peters, Secretary of Transportation; Susan Schwab, US Special Trade Representative
I don't think Republications really want a women president just yet. Having Sara run with McCain was obviously made to get voters unhappy with Hiliary not getting the Presidential nomination on the Republican side.
IMHO I have absolutely no problem voting and supporting Palin. She speaks the truth. The one name on your list I would also vote for is Codoleezza Rice.
I wonder how long it would take for the left wingers to start calling her names ? :shrug::shrug:
Guest
07-07-2009, 08:53 AM
A little video of Palin on why she left office..
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31775042#31775042
Guest
07-07-2009, 09:14 AM
I agree.. That is why I mostly stay out of this area. With Politics you can never be right. :shrug:
I guess Sarah keeps people coming back? :police:
Guest
07-07-2009, 09:32 AM
I find it interesting that even Fox News has started to turn on Sarah Palin. Liz Trotta called her inarticulate and undereducated and said that for once liberal criticism was "well-deserved."
She went on to say that Palin is somebody who, right from the get-go, has been a flashy person who gets into a lot of trouble and really has no credentials for any job.
Palin told CNN this morning that she resigned because of the tremendous pressure, time and financial burden of a litany of ethics complaints in the past several months. In my opinion, that makes her a quitter. If she can't take the pressure of public life, she certainly is not presidential material.
Guest
07-07-2009, 10:09 AM
I guess Sarah keeps people coming back? :police:
Originally Posted by GMONEY
I agree.. That is why I mostly stay out of this area. With Politics you can never be right.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mostly
Main Entry: most·ly
Pronunciation: \ˈmōst-lē\
Function: adverb
Date: 1563
: for the greatest part : mainly
Thought it might help alittle..
Guest
07-07-2009, 10:25 AM
Originally Posted by GMONEY
I agree.. That is why I mostly stay out of this area. With Politics you can never be right.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mostly
Main Entry: most·ly
Pronunciation: \ˈmōst-lē\
Function: adverb
Date: 1563
: for the greatest part : mainly
Thought it might help alittle..
All I said was that Sarah keeps people coming back...Perfect example is your 5-6 posts on this thread......Touchy today, huh?:duck:
Guest
07-07-2009, 11:25 AM
It's an interesting question but IMHO, not relevant, because the media will make sure that Mrs. Palin will never be elected.
Perhaps a better question would be, will Joe Biden be a great or, good President if he succeeds President Obama?
Guest
07-07-2009, 11:52 AM
It's an interesting question but IMHO, not relevant, because the media will make sure that Mrs. Palin will never be elected.
Perhaps a better question would be, will Joe Biden be a great or, good President if he succeeds President Obama?
Ms. Palin has the time to prepare for whatever she wants to do.
As far as Mr. Biden is concerned, I will be stunned if he is still VP come July 2012 (time frame for the party conventions), as it seems that Ms. Clinton may roll onto the ticket at that time.
This could get interesting, depending on how Ms. Palin develops herself in the meantime.
Guest
07-07-2009, 01:19 PM
I'm with you, SteveZ. I'll be very surprised if Biden is still the VP, in 2012. Hillary will take over. Then Obama better get a food taster.
Guest
07-07-2009, 03:58 PM
To answer the original quesstion, no. And why are we talking about Gov. Palin when Condi Rice is unemployed? She would make a great President.
Guest
07-07-2009, 04:26 PM
To answer the original quesstion, no. And why are we talking about Gov. Palin when Condi Rice is unemployed? She would make a great President.
Agree with the Condi Rice part of your post. She is another female that the media elite didn't care for. Another one that didn't fit their profile.
Guest
07-07-2009, 04:36 PM
Yes, RCT, let's look at the numbers. I can show numbers that Governor Palin was a conscientious, conservative and competent Governor. Can you do the same for Obama? Palin had a budget surplus in Alaska, Obama has quadrupled the deficit in just five months. Unemployment has gone from e little over 6% to 10% under his leadership. This after assuring the American people that if the stimulus package was passes, unemployment would remain at less than 8%. We have twenty some czars supervising cabinet operation and all parts of the economy without congressional oversight or Senate consent to their appointment. We have gone to a government ownership or control of the banking industry, the automobile industry, the energy business and soon, in all probability, the health care industry. The last time I looked up the terms this was socialism and bordering on naziism. Yes, I said the N word - I have always avoided it in the past as extremist, but our National, no longer Federal Government is in the hands of extremists, as certainly as any government in history going to authoritarian government practices and national control of the economy. The United States is adopting a Nationalist - Socialist form of government whether we choose to admit it or not.
In another thread, I posted the observation and amazement of people in the Soviet Union at the speed at which the 'sheeple' of the United States were running over the cliff to a marxist economy despite its failures in other economies around the world. Perhaps we should have listened more carefully to the futurists that forecast the breakup of the United States in the year 2010. I am talking about the poll numbers, McCain's numbers. When he announced Palin as his running mate, Obama gained on, and eventually passed him drastically. Those are the numbers I was referring to.
Guest
07-07-2009, 04:37 PM
To answer the original quesstion, no. And why are we talking about Gov. Palin when Condi Rice is unemployed? She would make a great President.
She certainly has the qualifications and experience, but didn't seem interested prior to the last election. Maybe now that any racial barriers have been broken she'd reconsider - Although there is some baggage from her time as Sec Of State that would be hard to overcome.
Guest
07-07-2009, 04:40 PM
Actually, McCain's numbers got a boost when he announced Sarah Palin as his running mate. Maybe he was trying to get the Clinton voters by having a woman on the ticket? It made it a tighter race but McCain was the wrong man for the job. Alot of people pinched their collective noses and voted for him because of the alternative. Yes, I will agree, for about three days, then she opened her mouth, and that went away.
Guest
07-07-2009, 04:41 PM
I am talking about the poll numbers, McCain's numbers. When he announced Palin as his running mate, Obama gained on, and eventually passed him drastically. Those are the numbers I was referring to.
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Guest
07-07-2009, 07:36 PM
No
Guest
07-07-2009, 11:00 PM
I am talking about the poll numbers, McCain's numbers. When he announced Palin as his running mate, Obama gained on, and eventually passed him drastically. Those are the numbers I was referring to.
As others, including Steve Z, have pointed out - Sarah Palin's nomination provided tremendous energy to the GOP base pointed out well by her tremendous acceptance in The Villages. Barack Obama was leading McCain on his mantra of undefined 'change' and retained his lead through the election.
Your question has been answered. Are you willing to go back and answer mine?
Guest
07-08-2009, 01:34 AM
YES She is going to be one of our best presidents
Da Sgt
Guest
07-08-2009, 06:21 AM
There's no guarantee of that. After all, the Republicans may select Joe the Plumber as their candidate. He's about as qualified.
Guest
07-08-2009, 07:24 AM
Depends on the $$$ backers supporting her. Absolutely NOTHING else matters. She has the brains, sufficient common sense--perhaps not the greatest speaking ability--but shoots from the hip too often. HOWEVER, her awesome beauty and absolute honesty (quite refreshing, really) may transcend the 'execubabble' and routine, say-nothing rhetoric often exhibited by slick, smooth talkers (which proved briefly successful and a nice departure from the previous goofy president Bush). Bottom line: gotta have the money bags supporting you, no?
Guest
07-08-2009, 07:38 AM
There's no guarantee of that. After all, the Republicans may select Joe the Plumber as their candidate. He's about as qualified.
What is "qualified?" Finishing half a senate term is "qualified?" Being an Ivy League educated attorney is "qualified?"
What are the requisite education and experience to be POTUS to be considered "qualified?"
Guest
07-08-2009, 10:33 AM
Imagine the media reaction if Sarah Palin said this:
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE5663SB20090707?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Faux pas? anyone? lol
Guest
07-08-2009, 10:50 AM
Imagine the media reaction if Sarah Palin said this:
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE5663SB20090707?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Faux pas? anyone? lol
I think we would have been better off if Obama attended the MJ show in LA.
Not sure how much he gave away this time. :cus::cus:
Guest
07-08-2009, 01:06 PM
Say what you want about Sarah Palin; she creates interest and excitement !!!
This thread about her has, as I write this, generated 2,288 and 98 posts many from folks who haven't posted here since the campaign !
NO ISSUE facing the counttry gets that kind of attention !
Guest
07-08-2009, 07:09 PM
They don't call me Talk Host for nothing, you know!
Guest
07-08-2009, 08:08 PM
Yes!
Guest
07-08-2009, 08:12 PM
Say what you want about Sarah Palin; she creates interest and excitement !!!
This thread about her has, as I write this, generated 2,288 and 98 posts many from folks who haven't posted here since the campaign !
NO ISSUE facing the counttry gets that kind of attention !
The problem is, she generates much Negative attention. And the latest poll shows that although 71% of Repubs would vote for her for President, 75% of Democrats and 55% of Independents want her off the national stage i.e. she is loved by Republicans and loathed by everyone else. She is a very polarizing figure.
Guest
07-08-2009, 08:24 PM
Yes, Sarah Palin would make a great president. She would add alot of stability to the office that is lacking right now with this incompetent administration. Maybe she doesn't talk like the so-called elite snobs, but she is very smart. Name me one guy that can handle all those kids, a husband and still be the best governor of the USA.
And I think she can do most of it without a teleprompter, but if she decides to use the teleprompter, all she has to do is hire someone to write all the fancy words like Obama's writer does. :pepper2: :beer3:
Guest
07-08-2009, 08:39 PM
No
I agree with your brief and concise opinion....
Guest
07-08-2009, 08:44 PM
They don't call me Talk Host for nothing, you know!
Yep, we couldn't have done it without you.;)
Guest
07-09-2009, 08:18 AM
The problem is, she generates much Negative attention. And the latest poll shows that although 71% of Repubs would vote for her for President, 75% of Democrats and 55% of Independents want her off the national stage i.e. she is loved by Republicans and loathed by everyone else. She is a very polarizing figure.
I don't know which "poll" provides those numbers, but I question its weighting and sampling content.
True, 75% of Democrats will never for vote for any Republican, period.
Of the Independents I know, its probably 4:1 in favor of Ms. Palin.
So far, the 'negativity' has been a continuous negative tactic by the pro-Obama media which has gone after her family and religion while maintaining a 'hands off' the Obama family and downplaying the Rev. Wright matter. Most even-thinking folk have seen through the blatant media bias.
Guest
07-10-2009, 06:36 PM
And of the Republicans I know, its about 2:1 against Palin. Many (Republican ) friends last election voted for McCain very reluctantly because Palin was on the ticket. As far as media attention, she and her family do things that trigger it. Misuse of state funds, pregnant daughter, husband's ties to rabidly anti-American secessionist group, her poor public speaking ability (the infamous Couric interview), she quits the Governorship because she can't take the heat.....the list goes on and on. Even McCain's campaign people talk about what a whack job she is. Most even-thinking folk have seen through the blatant Republican political bias and they're not buying the hype any more.
Guest
07-10-2009, 06:47 PM
And of the Republicans I know, its about 2:1 against Palin. Many (Republican ) friends last election voted for McCain very reluctantly because Palin was on the ticket. As far as media attention, she and her family do things that trigger it. Misuse of state funds, pregnant daughter, husband's ties to rabidly anti-American secessionist group, her poor public speaking ability (the infamous Couric interview), she quits the Governorship because she can't take the heat.....the list goes on and on. Even McCain's campaign people talk about what a whack job she is. Most even-thinking folk have seen through the blatant Republican political bias and they're not buying the hype any more.
Yea, I'm sure going to get baited into a conversation with that kind of dialogue.
Guest
07-10-2009, 07:25 PM
And of the Republicans I know, its about 2:1 against Palin. Many (Republican ) friends last election voted for McCain very reluctantly because Palin was on the ticket. As far as media attention, she and her family do things that trigger it. Misuse of state funds, pregnant daughter, husband's ties to rabidly anti-American secessionist group, her poor public speaking ability (the infamous Couric interview), she quits the Governorship because she can't take the heat.....the list goes on and on. Even McCain's campaign people talk about what a whack job she is. Most even-thinking folk have seen through the blatant Republican political bias and they're not buying the hype any more.
Well said Taj. Imagine if she were President and decided she no longer wanted to play President and hopped on her snowmachine and went home. I think it is all money she is after now.
Guest
07-10-2009, 07:46 PM
If u want to compare her with someone, compare her with Bush.
2 peas in a pod.
Wow. Your insights are extraordinary. I feel like I really really know her. I hope she serves two terms as President, too.:jester:
Guest
07-10-2009, 08:03 PM
And of the Republicans I know, its about 2:1 against Palin. Many (Republican ) friends last election voted for McCain very reluctantly because Palin was on the ticket. As far as media attention, she and her family do things that trigger it. Misuse of state funds, pregnant daughter, husband's ties to rabidly anti-American secessionist group, her poor public speaking ability (the infamous Couric interview), she quits the Governorship because she can't take the heat.....the list goes on and on. Even McCain's campaign people talk about what a whack job she is. Most even-thinking folk have seen through the blatant Republican political bias and they're not buying the hype any more.
I believe that you know many republicans and they talk to you.
I also believe in Santa Clause
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
Guest
07-10-2009, 08:09 PM
Hey, didn't you know that republicans think Santa is a Whack Job? :beer3:
Guest
07-10-2009, 09:23 PM
Well said Taj. Imagine if she were President and decided she no longer wanted to play President and hopped on her snowmachine and went home. I think it is all money she is after now.
You may be right about the money. As the only one on either ticket with a net worth less than $1Million and actually living on the paycheck, perhaps making a living and paying the bills is indeed important.
One thing was for sure, no matter whether Sen. Obama or Sen. McCain won the election, the new occupant in the White House was going to be a millionaire.
Funny, but when someone takes the job as President or Vice President and lives off the paycheck, they are indeed working the job. If the person's real income comes from blind trusts set up from one's portfolio and the person does not need the paycheck that comes with the job, isn't that "playing President?" And that holds true for the current, previous and several other Presidents.
Guest
07-10-2009, 09:53 PM
Gee. The people I know, including myself, only voted for McPain because Palin was on the ticket.
Guest
07-10-2009, 10:23 PM
Gee. The people I know, including myself, only voted for McPain because Palin was on the ticket.
You go girl!!:beer3:
I had my trepidations about voting for McCain until he selected Palin. After that.. it was a no-brainer.
Guest
07-11-2009, 03:55 AM
Yea, I'm sure going to get baited into a conversation with that kind of dialogue.
Sorry, but those were'nt my words, they were those of the McCain staffer who also called her a diva.
Guest
07-11-2009, 04:00 AM
I believe that you know many republicans and they talk to you.
I also believe in Santa Clause
Yoda
A member of the loyal opposition
For the record, you don't know me personally , or my friends. After reading your comments about Palin, I suspect you do believe in Santa Claus.
Guest
07-11-2009, 07:45 AM
Sorry, but those were'nt my words, they were those of the McCain staffer who also called her a diva.
Is the staffer your friend? :shrug:
Guest
07-11-2009, 08:35 AM
For the record, you don't know me personally , or my friends. After reading your comments about Palin, I suspect you do believe in Santa Claus.
I sure do - The way so many financial stockings are being filled, he's in the White House now, being helped by his elves heading the House and Senate.
Guest
07-11-2009, 08:41 AM
I sure do - The way so many financial stockings are being filled, he's in the White House now, being helped by his elves heading the House and Senate.
LOLThanks for the belly laugh, Steve.:a20:
Guest
07-11-2009, 11:35 AM
Chief Executive... State of Alaska..Case closed.
She would be a terrible president, as apparently she is not so hot a governor either. Can you imagine any president walking out of their job after their second election because they didn't want to be a lame duck from the start? Any chief executive who turns tail and runs in the middle of a term is not a successful chief executive. On the other hand,the numerous politicians- most notably Ensign, should be sticking their tails between their legs and get out of town.
Outrageous. She has shown the immaturity to not restrain herself in abusing her power, and is now under all sorts of investigations for such abuse- most not frmo Democrats, but from her own party or outside ethics commissions.
She complains about the media, but spends all her time looking for media coverage. She complains about the media "exploiting" her family, but was the only candidate to have them paraded out in front of the cameras at every press opportunity.
She will make a good talk show host, and people may even buy her book and go see her speak, but she is not a saavy politician. She is unable to connect cause and effect- either in reality or as a political tool- so she sounds incoherent and non-reflective.
Guest
07-11-2009, 11:53 AM
She would be a terrible president, as apparently she is not so hot a governor either. Can you imagine any president walking out of their job after their second election because they didn't want to be a lame duck from the start? Any chief executive who turns tail and runs in the middle of a term is not a successful chief executive. On the other hand,the numerous politicians- most notably Ensign, should be sticking their tails between their legs and get out of town.
Outrageous. She has shown the immaturity to not restrain herself in abusing her power, and is now under all sorts of investigations for such abuse- most not frmo Democrats, but from her own party or outside ethics commissions.
She complains about the media, but spends all her time looking for media coverage. She complains about the media "exploiting" her family, but was the only candidate to have them paraded out in front of the cameras at every press opportunity.
She will make a good talk show host, and people may even buy her book and go see her speak, but she is not a saavy politician. She is unable to connect cause and effect- either in reality or as a political tool- so she sounds incoherent and non-reflective.
Right on the mark.
Guest
07-11-2009, 11:53 AM
She would be a terrible president, as apparently she is not so hot a governor either. Can you imagine any president walking out of their job after their second election because they didn't want to be a lame duck from the start? Any chief executive who turns tail and runs in the middle of a term is not a successful chief executive. On the other hand,the numerous politicians- most notably Ensign, should be sticking their tails between their legs and get out of town.
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But if a person gets himself elected to a six-year term as senator, promising to complete that term and its responsibilities, and less than halfway through that term abandons his responsibilities for full-time campaigning for President, never intending to complete the term (unless he has no other option) - that's just fine and dandy! Double standards to say the least.
Guest
07-11-2009, 12:06 PM
He didn't quit - he did both jobs as others in his situation have done many times in the past, as did McCain. She quit.
Guest
07-11-2009, 12:45 PM
But if a person gets himself elected to a six-year term as senator, promising to complete that term and its responsibilities, and less than halfway through that term abandons his responsibilities for full-time campaigning for President, never intending to complete the term (unless he has no other option) - that's just fine and dandy! Double standards to say the least.
Substitute "Governor" for "Senator", and isn't that exactly what Sarah Palin did in her VP run? Spin all you want, she is a quitter.:pepper2:
Guest
07-11-2009, 01:06 PM
But if a person gets himself elected to a six-year term as senator, promising to complete that term and its responsibilities, and less than halfway through that term abandons his responsibilities for full-time campaigning for President, never intending to complete the term (unless he has no other option) - that's just fine and dandy! Double standards to say the least.
Your right...and most of the time he wasn't around the senate to vote. And when a vote came up he would vote "present" so he would not leave a "voting trail" so he would not have to answer for it while running for president as he did form the very beginning of his term.
Maybe Sarah Palin is looking for a no show job like Obama had so she can pay her debts. Hard to earn money when your running the biggest state in the union.
Guest
07-11-2009, 05:11 PM
I sure do - The way so many financial stockings are being filled, he's in the White House now, being helped by his elves heading the House and Senate.
Steve -
You better be good or he may just leave a hunk of coal in your stocking. lol:beer3:
Guest
07-11-2009, 07:04 PM
He didn't quit - he did both jobs as others in his situation have done many times in the past, as did McCain. She quit.
So, if you draw a government political paycheck, you can continue to draw full-time pay when you don't show up for work almost all of the time, and spend that time "interviewing" for another job? It doesn't work that way in the civil service, the military service or in the private sector. Ironically,
And if you think he worked full-time as a senator, count the number of "not present" votes. And that also goes for Sen. McCain as well.
Why do people give politicians a free pass for actions which would get any other citizen FIRED by his/her employer?
Yeah, Senators Obama and McCain both short-changed their constituents.
Guest
07-11-2009, 07:34 PM
Substitute "Governor" for "Senator", and isn't that exactly what Sarah Palin did in her VP run? Spin all you want, she is a quitter.:pepper2:
You are correct, sir.
IMO I don't really know, or care, if that is a good or bad thing, but bottom line is, she quit.
Guest
07-11-2009, 07:44 PM
So, if you draw a government political paycheck, you can continue to draw full-time pay when you don't show up for work almost all of the time, and spend that time "interviewing" for another job? It doesn't work that way in the civil service, the military service or in the private sector. Ironically,
And if you think he worked full-time as a senator, count the number of "not present" votes. And that also goes for Sen. McCain as well.
Why do people give politicians a free pass for actions which would get any other citizen FIRED by his/her employer?
Yeah, Senators Obama and McCain both short-changed their constituents.
Yes, senators get a free ride and we get short changed. Let us hope that Obama's work ethics improve a little. But of course, the less he "works" maybe the better off the country will be.
Guest
07-12-2009, 05:03 PM
But if a person gets himself elected to a six-year term as senator, promising to complete that term and its responsibilities, and less than halfway through that term abandons his responsibilities for full-time campaigning for President, never intending to complete the term (unless he has no other option) - that's just fine and dandy! Double standards to say the least.
I just realized, in crazy land, that I'm a big quitter too. When I ended my 4th year at college-1 college, (BTW Ms Palin quit four different schools before finishing her Bachelor's at a 5th), I quit that school and went to a different graduate school. After two years there, I quit that, even though i could have gone on for a doctorate, and became a housing counsellor for the disabled. Buthen two years after that, I quit the job because they promoted me to an Assitant Director a year later I quit that, because they promoted me to a Directorship. Then two years after that, I quit that whole agency, because I was hired to run one of the largest nonprofit housing agencies in the country. Boy was I a quitter. I can't wait til I'm 65 or maybe 70- then I can really be a quitter.
Guess I'm just a quitter. Or maybe in the real world, (huh!?) in politics, working your way "up" the political ladder is considered advancement. Call me crazy. Somehow, it's ok for s to have created a permanent class of upwardly mobile CEO's who are hired not for their proven abilities but rather for their "reputation" and we cheer "Yeah, free market" but when the majority of American people vote in a particular party, and vote out another one, everyone who does so is an idiot, or does so to destroy the United States.
Spiro Agnew used to call your type "nabobs of negativity."- although he was referring to Liberals who disgreed with that paragon of Republican Virtues, Richard Nixon. Now it's just the party of "NO." Wasn't Arnold a quitter when he stopped acting in pictures to start acting as governor? Sorry, I menat Ronald Reagan.
Guest
07-12-2009, 05:10 PM
Gee. The people I know, including myself, only voted for McPain because Palin was on the ticket.
So Sally, you voted for a person who you considered a completely incompetent candidate because the person he chose to succeed him if he died in office was the best choice he could have made? OUCH! If he was so incompetent in everything else, why would his process for choosing a VP choice be any different? Oh, that's right, it wasn't!
Guest
07-12-2009, 05:21 PM
I would vote for Sarah Palin in a heartbeat. She certainly has more experience than our community activist President came to the table with.
Guest
07-12-2009, 06:17 PM
So Sally, you voted for a person who you considered a completely incompetent candidate because the person he chose to succeed him if he died in office was the best choice he could have made? OUCH! If he was so incompetent in everything else, why would his process for choosing a VP choice be any different? Oh, that's right, it wasn't!
Yea, but on the democratic ticket there was two incompetents: Joe "Gaffe a day" Biden...and Barak Hussien Obama, Chicago thug organizer. There really wasn't much choice.
Guest
07-12-2009, 07:53 PM
I don't think I said McPain was incompetent. I don't like him because I disagree with him on some major issues. Amnesty, McPain-Feingold to name a few. I felt he would be Democrat-lite.
Guest
07-12-2009, 08:29 PM
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Spiro Agnew used to call your type "nabobs of negativity."- although he was referring to Liberals who disgreed with that paragon of Republican Virtues, Richard Nixon. Now it's just the party of "NO." Wasn't Arnold a quitter when he stopped acting in pictures to start acting as governor? Sorry, I menat Ronald Reagan.
Wow, I never realized I was a "type." When folk disagree with your way of thinking, it must be handy to type-cast.
Well, at least Pres. Bush beat that quitter Gore - the one who got released early from the Army and his Vietnam tour so he could go to divinity school (Vanderbilt), and quit that a couple months later to follow in his father's footsteps.
I'm amazed that when a conservative-leaning person becomes President, the liberal-leaning folk consider it mandatory to protest, demean, denounce and ridicule the Administration whenever the Administration doesn't cow-tow to the liberal-leaning folk's agenda. YET, when a liberal-leaning person becomes President, the liberal-leaning folk consider any critical review of the President's agenda by anyone as heresy.
What keeps this country going is the critical review of the government (Executive and Legislative) by the citizenry. Without that criticism, the potential for state-sponsored or condoned bigotry gets very real. We get our best ideas by challenging the vibrancy and efficacy of today's actions, so that tomorrow does indeed have the potential to be brighter than today.
No, President Obama and his appointees, and the Legislature's 545 are not going to get carte blanche, and every action will indeed by dissected. He's not the monarch or the dictator - just another elected politician. He's no smarter or skilled than any of his predecessors, despite the hype. The question is whether he'll be luckier than others.
Guest
07-19-2009, 03:28 PM
Palin would get my vote!!:crap2:
Guest
07-19-2009, 03:39 PM
The experience argument is so..................politicalbarf
btk
Guest
07-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Palin for President
Joe the Plumber for V.P.
Ensign and Sanford for International affairs (when one is out of town the other could cover)
Tiahrt for Human Rights and Health Care
There will probably be more Applicants soon.
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