Turn Signals at round a bouts

[Warren Kiefer]

Can anyone explain to me why people seldom use their turn signals when exiting round-a-bouts. Using your signals without a doubt makes the traffic flow so much better.

[Rickg]

NO...

[villagetinker]

Always use them, and I have my head on constant turning to see who and what is around me. At least once per day or more I need to go around a roundabout 3/4, which means I am in the INSIDE LANE and I am really careful as I pass the second exit, since I am going to EXIT from the LEFT (aka inside lane). I have had a few close calls, the last one being a contractor that had no idea of YIELD. I ALWAYS have my signal on for the right turn.
I still use my turn signals when I turn into my own driveway at 2 in the morning, my grandfather taught me well!!!!!

[simpkinp]

Few people understand how to drive a roundabout. I always use my signal when exiting but am prepared to go around again if there is an inexperienced driver in the other lane. Better safe than sorry. Village Tinker, I always enjoy your thoughtful posts.

[circletrack]

I only use a signal very briefly before exiting, mostly as a courtesy to anyone that's waiting to enter.

[Hummintwo]

Retirement brings out the absurdity. The rules of the road are pretty consistent no matter where you travel in the US but for some crazy reason, when folks visit, live, pass thru, etc the Villages. All everyone thinks about is me, me, me. You, are on your own, walking, driving anywhere in the Villages. It is really weird that this is the very time in our lives to apply everything we've learned so we can all enjoy life here in the Villages instead of near death experiences and for those who never got a chance to protest. Sorry, your question irks me because it is a fair question and I wish we had all the right answers.

[rubicon]

round abouts discussions on this forum have appeared so often that it should become a permanent thread.

Why people have such a problem is beyond me. they are easy to navigate and assist greatly in keeping the traffic flowing. could you image the backups we would have especially in prime season if all round abouts were four corner intersection.

My practice mimics villagetinker always on the lookout always using my turn signals

[Two Bills]

I only use a signal very briefly before exiting, mostly as a courtesy to anyone that's waiting to enter.

Surely signals are to let all drivers know your intention to manouvre, not just as a courtesy, or are you trying to preserve the life of your bulbs?

[circletrack]

Surely signals are to let all drivers know your intention to manouvre, not just as a courtesy, or are you trying to preserve the life of your bulbs?

I'm only talking about within a roundabout, where you are not legally required to signal. So yes, it's a courtesy, especially to the folks sitting there waiting to enter the circle wondering if the cars are going to continue around, or exit.

Everywhere else, it's a signal every time I make a move. It really annoys me when people don't signal changing lanes on the highway.


Edit to add: Signaling before exit is recommended by Sumter County officials: http://sumtercountyfl.gov/DocumentCenter/Home/View/3939

[CFrance]

I'm only talking about within a roundabout, where you are not legally required to signal. So yes, it's a courtesy, especially to the folks sitting there waiting to enter the circle wondering if the cars are going to continue around, or exit.

Everywhere else, it's a signal every time I make a move. It really annoys me when people don't signal changing lanes on the highway.



Edit to add: Signaling before exit is recommended by Sumter County officials: http://sumtercountyfl.gov/DocumentCenter/Home/View/3939

Hmm... You are required to yield to both lanes of the roundabout, so if you see a car coming at all, you should not enter the roundabout.

[Cisco Kid]

I put on my emergency flashers, and take both lines, because I am a snowflake, and scared.

[Chatbrat]

In Fl its illegal to use 4 way flashers on a moving vehicle--they are only to be used on a vehicle that is pulled off the road

[circletrack]

Hmm... You are required to yield to both lanes of the roundabout, so if you see a car coming at all, you should not enter the roundabout.

Ummm yes?

Not sure that I ever said anything about cars not yielding. All I meant is that if I was in there situation, waiting to enter as a car is rounding the circle, it's quite nice to know in advance that they are exiting.

ANYWAY.

This is a non issue considering the fact that I signal on every exit as stated in my OP.

[VApeople]

waiting to enter as a car is rounding the circle, it's quite nice to know in advance that they are exiting.

Just because they have a turn signal on, how would that help you "know in advance" that they are going to exit the roundabout?

If you see a car with a turn signal on, all you know for certain is that the turn signal is on.

Maybe the driver plans to exit the roundabout and maybe they don't. If you pull out in front of them and cause an accident, I bet you will be at fault.

[circletrack]

Just because they have a turn signal on, how would that help you "know in advance" that they are going to exit the roundabout?

If you see a car with a turn signal on, all you know for certain is that the turn signal is on.

Maybe the driver plans to exit the roundabout and maybe they don't. If you pull out in front of them and cause an accident, I bet you will be at fault.

It absolutely would be.

[Polar Bear]

Just because they have a turn signal on, how would that help you "know in advance" that they are going to exit the roundabout?

If you see a car with a turn signal on, all you know for certain is that the turn signal is on.

Maybe the driver plans to exit the roundabout and maybe they don't. If you pull out in front of them and cause an accident, I bet you will be at fault.
Agree totally. Seeing turns signals is fine, but I never count on that to avoid a conflict. That's the principle of yielding to both lanes in the roundabout anyway...if you go and there would be a conflict if the signaling cart does not turn, then you are not truly yielding to traffic in the roundabout.

[robinsdw2]

The use of turn signals is a common courtesy. It costs nothing to use the turn signals, why do you think they put them on your car in the first place.

[VApeople]

Can anyone explain to me why people seldom use their turn signals when exiting round-a-bouts.

When we are in the process of driving thru a roundabout and exiting, our hands and brain are busy steering the car, so we are not able to easily activate our turn signals.

[427dave]

Their blinker fluid is empty. You need to keep the blinker fluid full so your turn signals will work. Ace Hardward has pint bottles of blinker fluid.

[Bogie Shooter]

Wow! Two roundabout threads going at one time......................

[golfing eagles]

Their blinker fluid is empty. You need to keep the blinker fluid full so your turn signals will work. Ace Hardward has pint bottles of blinker fluid.

That's true. When picking it up at Ace Hardware, take the elevator to the 17th floor, it's in aisle 7 on the left, 3rd shelf down

[blueeagle65]

Can anyone explain to me why people seldom use their turn signals when exiting round-a-bouts. Using your signals without a doubt makes the traffic flow so much better.

You are correct, however, they don't use them to change lanes or turn either. Even prior to electric signals you had to use hand signals to get your license. Apparently too much gray matter has left these individuals and they no longer know how to signal. :rant-rave:

[Mrs. Robinson]

Can anyone explain to me why people seldom use their turn signals when exiting round-a-bouts. Using your signals without a doubt makes the traffic flow so much better.

These are the same people who don't signal when making a left or right hand turn, or better yet -- signal 5 seconds before their actual turn.

They deserve to be rear-ended but alas -- then it's your fault!

[Chi-Town]

Was in Hilton Head Island and turn signals are required in the roundabouts. Not a bad idea.

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[Rapscallion St Croix]

Never use your turn signal if you intend to proceed directly through the roundabout (http://alturl.com/xqt63) ◄Click here

[trichard]

The Villages has published a brouchure that explains how to navigate the round-a-bouts. Just read the brochure to figure out what to do. It's not space science.

[looneycat]

I only use a signal very briefly before exiting, mostly as a courtesy to anyone that's waiting to enter.

exiting the roundabout a signal is required by law. a signal is not required when entering it.

[looneycat]

Was in Hilton Head Island and turn signals are required in the roundabouts. Not a bad idea.

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they are required by law before exiting here as well.

[skip0358]

I use them, sure wish more people did. Some could also learn to slow down like the sign says when going thru them also

[Lblueocala]

Round abouts are a thing from the northeast part of the US. People from the northeast learned to navigate them when they were learning to drive. Most of the rest of the US doesn't have them. They are not part of learning to drive in the rest of the country. DONT assume just because people have some problems navigating them they are stupid. The first time you encounter them it can be confusing and intimidating. Traffic moves very fast though them. NOT everyone is from New England. You can be dealing with cars, trucks, motorcycles, golf carts, bicycles, people with poor eyesight, slower reflexes. COMMON sense folks, THINK, put your minds in motion before putting your mouths in gear. Chill out you're in Florida now, not up north.

[justjim]

Can anyone explain to me why people seldom use their turn signals when exiting round-a-bouts. Using your signals without a doubt makes the traffic flow so much better.

Two reasons: First using turn signals when exiting round-a-bouts is not required and second it's not illegal to not use them within a round-a-bout. Finally, another possible reason is we have a number of visitors to TV, many are not that familiar with roundabouts and some are not sure which exit they are going to take to reach their intended destination.

[RickeyD]

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[trichard]

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The brochure explains it all. So what is the problem? Follow the rules.

[Chi-Town]

Two reasons: First using turn signals when exiting round-a-bouts is not required and second it's not illegal to not use them within a round-a-bout. Finally, another possible reason is we have a number of visitors to TV, many are not that familiar with roundabouts and some are not sure which exit they are going to take to reach their intended destination.

Google and Mapquest tell you which exits to use on the roundabouts which would be helpful for visitors. I use it when going to an unfamiliar address.


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[John_W]

Turn signals at roundabouts;


I usually see drivers using turn signals when they are approaching the roundabout, the one place you don't want to use them.


Sometimes they put on a left signal, then I tell my wife, look at that guy he's turning left I got to see this, of course he doesn't.


Then sometimes they put on a right turn signal, and I say, he's not going straight, he's going to the right, imagine that.


As it turns out, when I see someone using turn signals at roundabouts, they're usually incorrect and I steer clear of them. The one time I see them as necessary is at the Morse and El Camino Real roundabout, and it's not for other cars, but for the golf carts to be warned I'm exiting and you need to stay where you're at and don't cross at this time. Otherwise, if drivers would just follow the published information and street signs, turn signals wouldn't be necessary in a roundabout.


That's my opinion after driving here full time for 6 years. I also don't dally around, I drive at a brisk pace and without incident and I usually can avoid most hazards simply by being alert. Here's a dashcam video I shot 2 years ago on BV showing how I avoided an incident on this day at Stillwater roundabout. The Villages, Florida Driving 2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUrsIcSSZU) As you'll see, I held my distance and then exited the area away from traffic at a brisk pace.

[Ooper]

If I trusted every time I somebody had their blinkers on, I would have been in 1000 accidents already. Using signals in roundabouts is ridiculous as the previous poster stated because people are too ignorant or oblivious to how to use them. If everybody followed the rules of the road for roundabouts, there would be no need to use them... period! Unfortunately, that is only a dream and will continue to be only a dream.

[autumnspring]

Round abouts are a thing from the northeast part of the US. People from the northeast learned to navigate them when they were learning to drive. Most of the rest of the US doesn't have them. They are not part of learning to drive in the rest of the country. DONT assume just because people have some problems navigating them they are stupid. The first time you encounter them it can be confusing and intimidating. Traffic moves very fast though them. NOT everyone is from New England. You can be dealing with cars, trucks, motorcycles, golf carts, bicycles, people with poor eyesight, slower reflexes. COMMON sense folks, THINK, put your minds in motion before putting your mouths in gear. Chill out you're in Florida now, not up north.

I'm not sure what you consider the northeast but re: roundabouts-they had them in Brooklyn but they were taken out due to exactly what people are saying here-THEY ARE DANGEROUS. A guess, they were taken out before 1960. I lived in upstate NY and they do not have any.

People have posted read the rules. I see that scene in that old comedy movie, "Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines," where one competitor is reading the instruction book as he is a flying his plane.

As we read these posts, you can be sure few people know the rules and fewer yet will follow them.

[Bogie Shooter]

I'm not sure what you consider the northeast but re: roundabouts-they had them in Brooklyn but they were taken out due to exactly what people are saying here-THEY ARE DANGEROUS. A guess, they were taken out before 1960. I lived in upstate NY and they do not have any.

People have posted read the rules. I see that scene in that old comedy movie, "Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines," where one competitor is reading the instruction book as he is a flying his plane.

As we read these posts, you can be sure few people know the rules and fewer yet will follow them.

Saying this is easy................backing it up with statistics is much harder.

[golfing eagles]

Turn signals at roundabouts;


I usually see drivers using turn signals when they are approaching the roundabout, the one place you don't want to use them.


Sometimes they put on a left signal, then I tell my wife, look at that guy he's turning left I got to see this, of course he doesn't.


Then sometimes they put on a right turn signal, and I say, he's not going straight, he's going to the right, imagine that.


As it turns out, when I see someone using turn signals at roundabouts, they're usually incorrect and I steer clear of them. The one time I see them as necessary is at the Morse and El Camino Real roundabout, and it's not for other cars, but for the golf carts to be warned I'm exiting and you need to stay where you're at and don't cross at this time. Otherwise, if drivers would just follow the published information and street signs, turn signals wouldn't be necessary in a roundabout.


That's my opinion after driving here full time for 6 years. I also don't dally around, I drive at a brisk pace and without incident and I usually can avoid most hazards simply by being alert. Here's a dashcam video I shot 2 years ago on BV showing how I avoided an incident on this day at Stillwater roundabout. The Villages, Florida Driving 2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUrsIcSSZU) As you'll see, I held my distance and then exited the area away from traffic at a brisk pace.


And yet, I've seen someone go left entering a RB at least twice in the last 3 years (Could have been from Australia:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:)

[Mikeod]

I only use my signals to indicate I am exiting the roundabout. Since most times I'm going 3/4 of the way around I'm in the inside lane and want to inform anyone in the outside lane where I'm going.

I've also seen people approach a roundabout and put on the left turn signal. Usually they are in the left lane so I assume they intend to exit at the third exit. It's the ones in the right lane with the left signal on that I keep far away from.

As stated in earlier posts, it's not that difficult, but some just think they "know" how or just don't care. Stand at the one at Morse and Stillwater. At least 75% of the cars going east on Stillwater intending to go north on Morse use the outside lane to go 3/4 of the way around despite the sign indicating which lane to use.

[billethkid]

The use of turn signals or stop signs in TV is in the same category as fixing ball marks on greens, raking sand traps and filling divots.......:D

[Topspinmo]

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Great information rickeyD
To bad can't add 4 way stop procedures. Amazes me how many don't stop at or behind stop sign or painted stop sign. But they will stop entering roundaboUt when NO traffic coming

Another thing if your in right hand lane of round about and you don't exit the first exit and you get hit by the left lane car YOU are at fault cause you didn't yield. I know someone who got ticket for this exact example. She got hit in the rear side by left lane car trying to exit at the second exit in roundabout. Which means she was ahead of the turning car in the left lane going to the third exit and still got the ticket for not yielding.

[aninjamom]

FLORIDA LAW:
316.155 When signal required.—
(1) No person may turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a highway unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety, and then only after giving an appropriate signal in the manner hereinafter provided, in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement.
(2) A signal of intention to turn right or left must be given continuously during not less than the last 100 feet traveled by the vehicle before turning, except that such a signal by hand or arm need not be given continuously by a bicyclist if the hand is needed in the control or operation of the bicycle.
(3) No person may stop or suddenly decrease the speed of a vehicle without first giving an appropriate signal in the manner provided herein to the driver of any vehicle immediately to the rear, when there is opportunity to give such signal.
(4) The signals provided for in s. 316.156 shall be used to indicate an intention to turn, to overtake, or to pass a vehicle and may not, except as provided in s. 316.2397, be flashed on one side only on a parked or disabled vehicle or flashed as a courtesy or “do pass” signal to operators of other vehicles approaching from the rear.
(5) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318.

In other words, yes, use your turn signal.

[jalopy54]

Hmm... You are required to yield to both lanes of the roundabout, so if you see a car coming at all, you should not enter the roundabout.

That is the way I understand it. The auto in the roundabout might go straight through or come on around and exit off to the left. Say you are traveling north and are going to exit off going west, your automobile should be on the inside lane in the circle. So if you are wanting to enter going south you should always wait to see what that auto is going to do before entering. So yes, any vehicle in the roundabout has the right of way over entering vehicle's!

[Matzy]

Don't know why people afraid using turn signals. Maybe they are to concentrated to self problems instead thinking of traffic. It isn't just at roundabouts, that people have the problem. I just can think that drivers don't want to give others a hint what they want to do or make it easy for other drivers let the traffic flow easier and safer.

[golfing eagles]

I only use my signals to indicate I am exiting the roundabout. Since most times I'm going 3/4 of the way around I'm in the inside lane and want to inform anyone in the outside lane where I'm going.

I've also seen people approach a roundabout and put on the left turn signal. Usually they are in the left lane so I assume they intend to exit at the third exit. It's the ones in the right lane with the left signal on that I keep far away from.

As stated in earlier posts, it's not that difficult, but some just think they "know" how or just don't care. Stand at the one at Morse and Stillwater. At least 75% of the cars going east on Stillwater intending to go north on Morse use the outside lane to go 3/4 of the way around despite the sign indicating which lane to use.

This is SOOOOO true. About 1/2 of them are the same drivers who go 3/4 around in the right lane at all other RBs as well. The others are likely positioning themselves to get in the right lane after the RB to use the LSL bypass. They are WRONG to do this, but there are also a significant number of drivers who enter the RB from the east side of Stillwater failing to yield to the car in the RB and thus making it more difficult for the driver in the left lane to use the bypass. Then, there are the clowns who are trying to pass the driver in the left (correct) lane by rushing around in the right lane to block them from getting into the bypass ahead of them. They are generally easy to spot based on their driving approaching the RB. Sorry, but I have no tolerance for them. While generally a laid back driver, this is one of my pet peeves and I will be extremely aggressive with them. I WILL use the left lane to go 270, I WILL get into the right lane after the RB to use the bypass, and I WILL do it ahead of him, even if he ends up in a ditch. Their maneuver is the equivalent of passing on the right, except that for a car going around 270, the right lane DOES NOT EXIST. The best analogy is that when exiting an interstate and merging into the exit lane, all of a sudden there is a car trying to pass you on the right because he drove in the shoulder/emergency lane to beat you to the exit. End of rant.

[John_W]

This is SOOOOO true. About 1/2 of them are the same drivers who go 3/4 around in the right lane at all other RBs as well...

That happened to me yesterday. I'm north bound on BV having just come off of 466A. I'm in the left lane and I enter the St. Charles Roundabout in the left inside lane intending to go to the third exit St. Charles Blvd, and I see a car has entered on my right and he starts to speed up and doesn't exit on BV northbound, but keeps going and I could see his left front signal is on. I guess he wants people to know he's making a complete left circle. I'm on the inside lane and slightly ahead, but he will have a better angle when we exit onto the resident lane. I slow to let him get in front and blow my horn for a couple of seconds. As he puts down his window to stick out his gate key, I yell to him, 'you've just made an illegal left turn, read the signs, you should of been in the left lane like me'. He waved and moved on, I don't know if he learned anything, hopefully so.

[golfing eagles]

That happened to me yesterday. I'm north bound on BV having just come off of 466A. I'm in the left lane and I enter the St. Charles Roundabout in the left inside lane intending to go to the third exit St. Charles Blvd, and I see a car has entered on my right and he starts to speed up and doesn't exit on BV northbound, but keeps going and I could see his left front signal is on. I guess he wants people to know he's making a complete left circle. I'm on the inside lane and slightly ahead, but he will have a better angle when we exit onto the resident lane. I slow to let him get in front and blow my horn for a couple of seconds. As he puts down his window to stick out his gate key, I yell to him, 'you've just made an illegal left turn, read the signs, you should of been in the left lane like me'. He waved and moved on, I don't know if he learned anything, hopefully so.

He didn't. Either he is ignorant and will remain so, or he did it on purpose and doesn't care.

[twopjt]

For crying out loud! Are you a citizen (resident) of FL??
Check your drivers license manual:
You are prohibited from using your turn signals while in the state of FL.
IF... you should inadvertently activate them you are REQUIRED to let them run till sunset or your pacemaker battery indicates a low charge. The law is the law.

[ColdNoMore]

For crying out loud! Are you a citizen (resident) of FL??
Check your drivers license manual:
You are prohibited from using your turn signals while in the state of FL.
IF... you should inadvertently activate them you are REQUIRED to let them run till sunset or your pacemaker battery indicates a low charge. The law is the law.

Awesome! :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

[John_W]

I'm just waiting for the time when I can tell a driver his turn signal is broke. So far I haven't had derelict driver park where I'm going.

[trichard]

Read the brochure. It is quit simple.