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N44125
02-12-2017, 11:35 AM
I read the article on this subject in yesterday's 'other' newspaper. I went on Google Maps and it was quite easy to identify which property this was...their driveway was full of golf carts...even in this obviously dated view. I then drove over there this morning and found the current condition equally disgusting.

My questions are: How could this ever be alllowed to get to this situation? Will the new rules be able to correct this problem? I'm surprised that the neighbor's home value has only decrease by 6-8K. I thought it would be more.

graciegirl
02-12-2017, 12:07 PM
I read the article on this subject in yesterday's 'other' newspaper. I went on Google Maps and it was quite easy to identify which property this was...their driveway was full of golf carts...even in this obviously dated view. I then drove over there this morning and found the current condition equally disgusting.

My questions are: How could this ever be alllowed to get to this situation? Will the new rules be able to correct this problem? I'm surprised that the neighbor's home value has only decrease by 6-8K. I thought it would be more.


I am a huge supporter of deed restrictions. In the past there were fewer deed restrictions north of 466 and you could easily see the sometimes over the top lawn art there.

Deed restrictions are simply a way to protect everyone's investment. IMHO. I hope they can make this guy stop his at home business. He can rent a place out of his residential neighborhood if he wants to run a business.

Sandtrap328
02-12-2017, 05:52 PM
I am a huge supporter of deed restrictions. In the past there were fewer deed restrictions north of 466 and you could easily see the sometimes over the top lawn art there.

Deed restrictions are simply a way to protect everyone's investment. IMHO. I hope they can make this guy stop his at home business. He can rent a place out of his residential neighborhood if he wants to run a business.

You are absolutely right. Cease the driveway repair business immediately or start paying large daily fines. People knew exactly what was allowed and was not allowed when they moved into The Villages.

Hancle704
02-12-2017, 08:25 PM
Having lived in CDD-1 for almost 20 years, I have to wonder how the contract we signed back then can be changed. Yes there have been some issues but for the most part no one has objected to lawn ornaments or White Crosses. Will this change because someone (a non-resident of CDD-1) is suddenly offended as they drive through our neighborhood? We have a wonderful Village where neighbors are friends and yes, we care for each other.

DonH57
02-12-2017, 09:04 PM
Having lived in CDD-1 for almost 20 years, I have to wonder how the contract we signed back then can be changed. Yes there have been some issues but for the most part no one has objected to lawn ornaments or White Crosses. Will this change because someone (a non-resident of CDD-1) is suddenly offended as they drive through our neighborhood? We have a wonderful Village where neighbors are friends and yes, we care for each other.

Deed restrictions differ from district 1 to, what do we have now 10 districts? We are in district 2 and there's quite a difference between ours and district 5 for example.

lafoto
02-12-2017, 10:56 PM
Which deed restriction did this disgusting person break?

Inexes@aol.com
02-12-2017, 11:25 PM
I am a huge supporter of deed restrictions. In the past there were fewer deed restrictions north of 466 and you could easily see the sometimes over the top lawn art there.

Deed restrictions are simply a way to protect everyone's investment. IMHO. I hope they can make this guy stop his at home business. He can rent a place out of his residential neighborhood if he wants to run a business.

I am not understanding the comment about lawn art, etc, North of 466. I have been here, north of 466, for 17 years and was aware when built house that there was to be NO lawn art, including even a bird bath. And there was to be NO business run out of your house. I see no difference in the restrictions north vs south of 466. Any "over the top" lawn art is OUT of compliance.....

Bryan
02-13-2017, 05:50 AM
Not only is this 'golf cart repair business' an abomination, there has been an abandoned car parked in The Savannah Center parking lot for over eight months and district officials seem unable to do anything about it. Seems like our deed restrictions may, in some cases, be an unenforceable paper tiger.

Chatbrat
02-13-2017, 06:45 AM
drop a dime on the cart business to the state & the IRS, any driveway business is most likely not paying taxes and handling hazardous waste correctly

Barboza
02-13-2017, 08:54 AM
anyone seen the number of golf carts in the driveway of home in Mareno court off Morse N of 466?
Looks like sales/rental business in that home, devaluing the properties in that otherwise very nice area.

Bogie Shooter
02-13-2017, 09:03 AM
anyone seen the number of golf carts in the driveway of home in Mareno court off Morse N of 466?
Looks like sales/rental business in that home, devaluing the properties in that otherwise very nice area.
Turn 'em in Dano............................

justjim
02-13-2017, 09:47 AM
Most of us bought here in The Villages because there are deed restrictions. I would not make a considerable investment in a home without them. Come on let's get district paid lawyers who will pursue those who are running such businesses out of their homes to the deteriment of their neighbors. This shouldn't be "rocket science".

EnglishJW
02-13-2017, 11:53 AM
I am a huge supporter of deed restrictions. In the past there were fewer deed restrictions north of 466 and you could easily see the sometimes over the top lawn art there.

Deed restrictions are simply a way to protect everyone's investment. IMHO. I hope they can make this guy stop his at home business. He can rent a place out of his residential neighborhood if he wants to run a business.

I agree completely. The first extremely positive impression we had of The Villages was the way it looked. Deed restrictions play a significant role in protecting how things look here.

Bogie Shooter
02-13-2017, 12:26 PM
Most of us bought here in The Villages because there are deed restrictions. I would not make a considerable investment in a home without them. Come on let's get district paid lawyers who will pursue those who are running such businesses out of their homes to the deteriment of their neighbors. This shouldn't be "rocket science".

Isn't that why the changed the timing and fines? RE article in paper referenced by OP..............

Hancle704
02-13-2017, 02:23 PM
Just don't be quick to judge a home that suddenly has 4-8 golf carts parked there. Might be nothing more than several group foursomes returning for lunch or libations.

Hancle704
02-13-2017, 02:31 PM
I am not understanding the comment about lawn art, etc, North of 466. I have been here, north of 466, for 17 years and was aware when built house that there was to be NO lawn art, including even a bird bath. And there was to be NO business run out of your house. I see no difference in the restrictions north vs south of 466. Any "over the top" lawn art is OUT of compliance.....

CDD-1 was the first and living here for almost 20 years the ban on lawn ornaments and white crosses now, have not been enforced. Nor was there a problem with the same on the original Villages located on the "historic" part of The Villages on the east side of US Hwy 441/27. Never bothered folks who moved here before. It wasn't broken, why "fix" it now? Each CDD has different rules and elected Supervisors, so why must they now be all the same?

DonH57
02-13-2017, 03:18 PM
CDD-1 was the first and living here for almost 20 years the ban on lawn ornaments and white crosses now, have not been enforced. Nor was there a problem with the same on the original Villages located on the "historic" part of The Villages on the east side of US Hwy 441/27. Never bothered folks who moved here before. It wasn't broken, why "fix" it now? Each CDD has different rules and elected Supervisors, so why must they now be all the same?

Each district does have different restrictions that you signed at closing. Nothing's been changed, only enforcement of existing rules. Your district office will provide you with the correct information. Don't listen to half what you read here.

twoplanekid
02-13-2017, 06:20 PM
from the District web site ->

Village Community Development District No. 10 (District) will be adopting its rule to Bring About Deed Compliance on February 16, 2017. Once the rule has been adopted, enforcement of deed compliance by the District will become effective March 1, 2017 and architectural control becomes effective May 1, 2017.
Prior to the rule being adopted, staff will be hosting public informational sessions regarding the new process. We invite you and request you invite your neighbors to attend one of the sessions. The date, time and location are listed below.
• Monday, February 13, 2017—Rohan Recreation Center from 2:00 p.m. – 4:00 p.m.
• Wednesday, February 15, 2017—Rohan Recreation Center from 6:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
It is not necessary for you to call and confirm a date and we look forward to seeing you and your neighbors at one of the public information sessions!

I hope to make the Wednesday night meeting and would encourage others in 10 to attend.

TheDude
02-14-2017, 12:35 AM
from the District web site ->

Village Community Development District No. 10 (District) will be adopting its rule to Bring About Deed Compliance on February 16, 2017. Once the rule has been adopted, enforcement of deed compliance by the District will become effective March 1, 2017 and architectural control becomes effective May 1, 2017.
Prior to the rule being adopted, staff will be hosting public informational sessions regarding the new process. We invite you and request you invite your neighbors to attend one of the sessions. The date, time and location are listed below.
• Monday, February 13, 2017—Rohan Recreation Center from 2:00 p.m. – 4:00 p.m.
• Wednesday, February 15, 2017—Rohan Recreation Center from 6:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
It is not necessary for you to call and confirm a date and we look forward to seeing you and your neighbors at one of the public information sessions!

I hope to make the Wednesday night meeting and would encourage others in 10 to attend.

Information on this is limited. The other 9 districts have adopted this. I bought for the reason of deed compliance with the thought that anything really wanted could be brought to the district board for approval. I don't want a neighbor to put a basketball rim over their garage. Been there, seen that; a nightmare.

rubicon
02-14-2017, 06:01 AM
My wife and I had excluded the state of Florida early on when we began looking for places to retire "but for" The Villages and the strict deed compliance we would have never moved here.

It is sad to see people who just do not or cannot care for their property. While a small matter I have noticed several concrete driveways that have never been power washed and they are simply filthy.

I deplore fences and was pleased that deed restriction excluded them. Natural barriers add much to a development

Let's face the true residents have to police their areas and report violations because if we do not then we get what we deserve

twoplanekid
02-14-2017, 08:37 AM
I would encourage a policy by districts whereby only anonymous complaints submitted by same district residents to the accused resident are acted upon.

tom g
02-14-2017, 08:58 AM
I would encourage a policy by districts whereby only anonymous complaints submitted by same district residents to the accused resident are acted upon.

Why ???

twoplanekid
02-14-2017, 09:07 AM
Why ???

I don’t want outside individuals on a mission to change what our local neighborhood will accept.

DonH57
02-14-2017, 09:26 AM
I don’t want outside individuals on a mission to change what our local neighborhood will accept.

I wouldn't really worry to much about it. If someone who runs around with a copy of deed restrictions for every district to thumb thru and has time to drive all over the villages for that purpose I would say they unfortunately retired way to early, and should still be working.:shrug:

graciegirl
02-14-2017, 09:33 AM
i wouldn't really worry to much about it. If someone who runs around with a copy of deed restrictions for every district to thumb thru and has time to drive all over the villages for that purpose i would say they unfortunately retired way to early, and should still be working.:shrug:

like!

graciegirl
02-14-2017, 09:37 AM
I don’t want outside individuals on a mission to change what our local neighborhood will accept.

DEAR TWO PLANE.

You signed the deed restriction. Relax. It works very well. It is pretty close to PERFECT here...and gradually it will seep into your very soul.

Challenger
02-14-2017, 10:01 AM
I would encourage a policy by districts whereby only anonymous complaints submitted by same district residents to the accused resident are acted upon.

If one is violating restrictions , I don't care who turns him in .

Barefoot
02-14-2017, 10:23 AM
Don't listen to half what you read here.:evil6:

Let's face the truth - residents have to police their areas and report violations because if we do not then we get what we deserve

If one is violating restrictions , I don't care who turns him in .
That seems fair to me, for those residents that deliberately violate deed restrictions.
If the violation isn't deliberate, then the resident would probably be happy to correct the problem.
After all, we're talking front yards only, and violations that are noticeable.

Bogie Shooter
02-14-2017, 10:31 AM
I don’t want outside individuals on a mission to change what our local neighborhood will accept.

Are we not all Villagers?

twoplanekid
02-14-2017, 02:56 PM
As an example, most of the people on my street could be sited for breaking one or more golden rules/deed restrictions. However, I enjoy what I see and would dislike the harmony and creativity of our street disturbed by others/outsiders/those not living near to the situation.

I am just expressing my feelings on this subject as others have expressed theirs. I can’t say if time will change my opinions.

Bogie Shooter
02-14-2017, 07:38 PM
Outsiders??

CFrance
02-14-2017, 09:46 PM
Outsiders??
I think (I don't know for sure) he might mean Villagers living outside his neighborhood. As an example, a year or so ago a Villager from outside our neighborhood drove all through Tamarind Grove writing down violations and addresses, then emailed them to deed restriction. Someone realized this email would be available via the sunshine law and got a copy of it. The person's name was in the email, and that's how we in TG know that it wasn't even one of our own Villagers.

Not condoning or condemning... just saying this might be what TPK means.

kcrazorbackfan
02-14-2017, 10:34 PM
My wife and I had excluded the state of Florida early on when we began looking for places to retire "but for" The Villages and the strict deed compliance we would have never moved here.

It is sad to see people who just do not or cannot care for their property. While a small matter I have noticed several concrete driveways that have never been power washed and they are simply filthy.

I deplore fences and was pleased that deed restriction excluded them. Natural barriers add much to a development

Let's face the true residents have to police their areas and report violations because if we do not then we get what we deserve

I'm probably a minority, but I really miss a fenced back yard for my pups (2 small girls) to run in. Had a wrought iron black fences in the back yards of our KC and STL homes. Will not take them to any dog park here anymore because of aggressive dogs in the under 30lb. side; I promised a guy that if his dog made one more attempt toward either of my dogs, I would stop the threat. I guess he saw I meant business when I brought out the expandable 30" steel baton.

dbussone
02-14-2017, 11:00 PM
I'm probably a minority, but I really miss a fenced back yard for my pups (2 small girls) to run in. Had a wrought iron black fences in the back yards of our KC and STL homes. Will not take them to any dog park here anymore because of aggressive dogs in the under 30lb. side; I promised a guy that if his dog made one more attempt toward either of my dogs, I would stop the threat. I guess he saw I meant business when I brought out the expandable 30" steel baton.



I use an Invisible Fence around my yard, but I think you have a great backup suggestion for dogs who want in and are aggressive.


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DonH57
02-14-2017, 11:19 PM
I think (I don't know for sure) he might mean Villagers living outside his neighborhood. As an example, a year or so ago a Villager from outside our neighborhood drove all through Tamarind Grove writing down violations and addresses, then emailed them to deed restriction. Someone realized this email would be available via the sunshine law and got a copy of it. The person's name was in the email, and that's how we in TG know that it wasn't even one of our own Villagers.

Not condoning or condemning... just saying this might be what TPK means.

I remember that because it was properly handled by the authority as filed 13 and Taminand Grove wasn't the only village false restriction violations were reported. Plain abuse of what should be a good system by actual violations.

CFrance
02-15-2017, 12:50 AM
I use an Invisible Fence around my yard, but I think you have a great backup suggestion for dogs who want in and are aggressive.


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Wait a minute... are you serious, DB? Just curious.

rubicon
02-15-2017, 04:50 AM
I'm probably a minority, but I really miss a fenced back yard for my pups (2 small girls) to run in. Had a wrought iron black fences in the back yards of our KC and STL homes. Will not take them to any dog park here anymore because of aggressive dogs in the under 30lb. side; I promised a guy that if his dog made one more attempt toward either of my dogs, I would stop the threat. I guess he saw I meant business when I brought out the expandable 30" steel baton.

I have never met a fence I liked and I have seen developments where they have destroyed the ambiance and beauty of an area. Fences also make for unfriendly neighbors.

rubicon
02-15-2017, 05:02 AM
As an example, most of the people on my street could be sited for breaking one or more golden rules/deed restrictions. However, I enjoy what I see and would dislike the harmony and creativity of our street disturbed by others/outsiders/those not living near to the situation.

I am just expressing my feelings on this subject as others have expressed theirs. I can’t say if time will change my opinions.

And what if you didn't enjoy or like what you see. I lived in a development that contained all cul de sacs. The color scheme for homes were earth tones no fences allowed all natural barriers. Until one day a guy two blocks over redid his home bright pink.

the neighbors all banded together and forced the guy to go back to a earth tone.

Without deed restrictions I make a wager it wouldn't be long before you find your neighbor has his car in the driveway sitting on blocks.

I went golfing with my neighborsthe other day every single golf cart despite age looked pristine and that reflects on the manner in which they maintain their property. I believe their is a valid correlation

twoplanekid
02-15-2017, 08:42 AM
I think (I don't know for sure) he might mean Villagers living outside his neighborhood. As an example, a year or so ago a Villager from outside our neighborhood drove all through Tamarind Grove writing down violations and addresses, then emailed them to deed restriction. Someone realized this email would be available via the sunshine law and got a copy of it. The person's name was in the email, and that's how we in TG know that it wasn't even one of our own Villagers.

Not condoning or condemning... just saying this might be what TPK means.

Yes! Thanks for the help in clarifying my thoughts. For neighbors to encourage neighbors to keep things pristine is one thing, to create troubles for everyone is something not desired.

I would encourage a policy by districts whereby only anonymous complaints submitted by same district residents to the accused resident are acted upon.

Bogie Shooter
02-15-2017, 08:44 AM
Outsiders??

I think (I don't know for sure) he might mean Villagers living outside his neighborhood. As an example, a year or so ago a Villager from outside our neighborhood drove all through Tamarind Grove writing down violations and addresses, then emailed them to deed restriction. Someone realized this email would be available via the sunshine law and got a copy of it. The person's name was in the email, and that's how we in TG know that it wasn't even one of our own Villagers.

Not condoning or condemning... just saying this might be what TPK means.

I still don't consider people not living in my village to be outsiders. Yes, I knew what he was saying.........

Bogie Shooter
02-15-2017, 08:46 AM
I'm probably a minority, but I really miss a fenced back yard for my pups (2 small girls) to run in. Had a wrought iron black fences in the back yards of our KC and STL homes. Will not take them to any dog park here anymore because of aggressive dogs in the under 30lb. side; I promised a guy that if his dog made one more attempt toward either of my dogs, I would stop the threat. I guess he saw I meant business when I brought out the expandable 30" steel baton.

Wow!

golfing eagles
02-15-2017, 09:02 AM
Wow!

:agree:

Of course, the problem might be that while owner A is protecting his dog with a steel baton, owner B might decide to protect his dog with a gun. If owner A has a gun, owner B will have an AK 47, if owner A has an AK 47, owner B will have a hand grenade. Beware dog owners in the park that show up in full body armor!

dbussone
02-15-2017, 11:36 AM
Wait a minute... are you serious, DB? Just curious.



No. I would report aggressive dogs to animal control. But if one came after my dog in our yard, I would deal with it very harshly. Over Thanksgiving my brother's very large lab grabbed my 17 pound dog by the neck and started shaking him. I kicked the lab as hard in it's windpipe as I could. It immediately dropped my dog. Luckily my dog was ok. My brother's was as well, but I think he has since put the dog down. This was not the first time the dog had done that, and a prior attack resulted in serious injury to a smaller dog.


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TheDude
02-18-2017, 12:01 AM
May 1, district 10, May 1

Barefoot
02-18-2017, 12:04 PM
No. I would report aggressive dogs to animal control. But if one came after my dog in our yard, I would deal with it very harshly. Over Thanksgiving my brother's very large lab grabbed my 17 pound dog by the neck and started shaking him. I kicked the lab as hard in it's windpipe as I could. It immediately dropped my dog. Luckily my dog was ok. My brother's was as well, but I think he has since put the dog down. This was not the first time the dog had done that, and a prior attack resulted in serious injury to a smaller dog.
Like DB, I would never harm a dog unless it threatened another dog. And then, all bets are off.
I understand kicking a dog in the windpipe if he is shaking a small dog.
I've been taking my dog to various dog parks for over sixteen years, and he's never had a problem,
but I keep him well away from any dogs that look "iffy".

graciegirl
02-18-2017, 01:42 PM
Like DB, I would never harm a dog unless it threatened another dog. And then, all bets are off.
I understand kicking a dog in the windpipe if he is shaking a small dog.
I've been taking my dog to various dog parks for over sixteen years, and he's never had a problem,
but I keep him well away from any dogs that look "iffy".

That is how I raised my kids too. It is wise to be skeptical of those iffy kinds and try to keep your distance. Stay away from the ones who want to kill or hurt. Furry or otherwise. We are given common sense and instinct too.

John_W
02-18-2017, 03:32 PM
Do the dog parks have a water hose, or spigot. I've always heard the best way to break up a dog fight is with a water hose sprayed at the dogs. Suddenly they lose their aggression and are too concerned about not getting wet. If that's not handy, then maybe just a can of mace or pepper spray might do the trick without harming either dog seriously. Amazon has the dog walker special with spray approved for use on dogs.

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Barefoot
02-18-2017, 05:06 PM
I've always heard the best way to break up a dog fight is with a water hose sprayed at the dogs. Suddenly they lose their aggression and are too concerned about not getting wet. A water pistol can work; anything to interrupt the dogs' train of thought. :doggie:

Bjeanj
02-18-2017, 06:59 PM
Getting off topic.
1) Each district has their own deed restrictions.
2) read the restrictions for YOUR district.
3) The latest changes relate to ENFORCEMENT of restrictions.
4) If you see something you object to, either report it or ignore it (and dont gripe about it if you don't report it). It's possible their deed restrictions aren't the same as yours.

DonH57
02-18-2017, 11:23 PM
Getting off topic.
1) Each district has their own deed restrictions.
2) read the restrictions for YOUR district.
3) The latest changes relate to ENFORCEMENT of restrictions.
4) If you see something you object to, either report it or ignore it (and dont gripe about it if you don't report it). It's possible their deed restrictions aren't the same as yours.

Exactly. Part of the problem lies with the misunderstanding that all village districts have the same restrictions. They don't!

Dgreenbucks
02-19-2017, 05:42 AM
I agree and this is not good. The Deed restrictions are in place for all of us to enjoy this beautiful place to live. Without them, this place would literally go to hell in a handbasket. Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers and let's all put our lawn furniture in the front of our home.

Chatbrat
02-19-2017, 05:58 AM
In the state of Florida any business working on motor vehicles must be registered with the dept of agriculture- a golf cart by definition is a motor vehicle-

Honestly turn the golf cart business into the state--they work for free

golfing eagles
02-19-2017, 06:48 AM
I agree and this is not good. The Deed restrictions are in place for all of us to enjoy this beautiful place to live. Without them, this place would literally go to hell in a handbasket. Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers and let's all put our lawn furniture in the front of our home.

Don't forget to put out a few major appliances as well:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

ColdNoMore
02-19-2017, 07:17 AM
Getting off topic.
1) Each district has their own deed restrictions.
2) read the restrictions for YOUR district.
3) The latest changes relate to ENFORCEMENT of restrictions.
4) If you see something you object to, either report it or ignore it (and dont gripe about it if you don't report it). It's possible their deed restrictions aren't the same as yours.

Actually, you aren't "getting off topic" at all...you're bringing the thread...back 'on topic.' :thumbup:

twoplanekid
02-19-2017, 08:55 AM
Has a court case in Florida taken place to determine that the accused has a right to stand before the accusers in a deed compliance case? I understand that anonymous submissions are welcomed and anyone, even nonresidents may submit a possible violation.

What works for a community of 120,000 may be difficult to sustain for one when reaching 250,000. At some point in time the deed compliance process may need to be tweaked.

DonH57
02-19-2017, 09:15 AM
I agree and this is not good. The Deed restrictions are in place for all of us to enjoy this beautiful place to live. Without them, this place would literally go to hell in a handbasket. Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers and let's all put our lawn furniture in the front of our home.

Now I have a use for those old tractor tires I can now drag out of storage.:1rotfl:

Challenger
02-19-2017, 09:35 AM
Has a court case in Florida taken place to determine that the accused has a right to stand before the accusers in a deed compliance case? I understand that anonymous submissions are welcomed and anyone, even nonresidents may submit a possible violation.

What works for a community of 120,000 may be difficult to sustain for one when reaching 250,000. At some point in time the deed compliance process may need to be tweaked.

deed restrictions are a contract with every other property owner who is subject to those same restrictions. A violation, if substantiated ,is a breach with every other party in the contract. An anonymous report is probably not the opinion of just one person. If only one person subject to the restrictions objects to a prohibited activity, he/she has the standing to enforce it in court -- if necessary.

dbussone
02-19-2017, 11:09 AM
Now I have a use for those old tractor tires I can now drag out of storage.:1rotfl:



They make great planters.


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DonH57
02-19-2017, 11:47 AM
They make great planters.


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Exactly. Great planters, and if you're fortunate enough to have a large tree, a great huge tire swing!:pepper2:

Barefoot
02-19-2017, 12:31 PM
Exactly. Great planters, and if you're fortunate enough to have a large tree, a great huge tire swing! :pepper2:
What a great idea.
Never mind the little white crosses, a tire swing for every yard that is lucky enough to have a big tree. :MOJE_whot:

graciegirl
02-19-2017, 12:43 PM
Has a court case in Florida taken place to determine that the accused has a right to stand before the accusers in a deed compliance case? I understand that anonymous submissions are welcomed and anyone, even nonresidents may submit a possible violation.

What works for a community of 120,000 may be difficult to sustain for one when reaching 250,000. At some point in time the deed compliance process may need to be tweaked.

Maybe most of us don't want it changed. We have chosen, CHOSEN, to live in areas that have deed restrictions for the last forty years. It protects the value of your property and makes areas pleasant looking. NOT everyone has excellent taste in lawn adornment.

I think you would like The Villages to not be a CDD. I like it just like it is and so do most of us who understand what it is. It is one of the reasons that it is head and shoulders above a like sized area run in the "traditional" way where dumb bunnies are elected.

Bjeanj
02-19-2017, 01:52 PM
Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers and let's all put our lawn furniture in the front of our home.

This is hilarious! I say that because the first time my husband saw one he thought someone had buried their pet at that spot.

twoplanekid
02-19-2017, 02:36 PM
After attending The Villages Community standards meeting on deed compliance and architectural review for District 10 last week, it was my understanding that several rules relating to what can happen between houses and streets are under review to sort out differences between developer and CDD controlled areas.

1 silver fox
02-20-2017, 05:07 AM
The Property Standards Dept is a JOKE. If you call to report an obvious non-compliance they will tell you that is does not meet the LEVEL of non-compliance. We have LEVELS now.

lpaul530
02-20-2017, 08:24 AM
And there is more.....there is a local management company outside The Villages that is running an AirBnB business in The Villages. Just go to the airbnb website and look for homes in The Villages and see what you find. There are many homes listed and he has over 50. So we now have homes being used as hotels. So if it is a 3 bedroom home; 3 bedrooms can be rented to 3 separate people. They could each have 2 dogs which puts 6 dogs in the house. These can be nightly rentals; like a hotel; so three cars parked in the driveways and it just goes on. And the district has been made aware of it.

VApeople
02-20-2017, 09:01 AM
Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers

I am not a Christian and I think the small white crosses in front of people's homes are very tasteful.

bhallam
02-20-2017, 09:44 AM
We had a neighbor who was going door to door offering political lawn signs. We told him that this was against the deed restrictions and that he should backtrack and let people who had accepted the signs know that they couldn't put them on their lawn. Shortly after we had this conversation someone from Community Standards showed up and told another neighbor to take the sign down that he had placed on his lawn. Unfortunately now at least one neighbor has assumed that we called Community Standards (we didn't) and reported them and as a result is not speaking to us. What is wrong with people.

golfing eagles
02-20-2017, 09:49 AM
We had a neighbor who was going door to door offering political lawn signs. We told him that this was against the deed restrictions and that he should backtrack and let people who had accepted the signs know that they couldn't put them on their lawn. Shortly after we had this conversation someone from Community Standards showed up and told another neighbor to take the sign down that he had placed on his lawn. Unfortunately now at least one neighbor has assumed that we called Community Standards (we didn't) and reported them and as a result is not speaking to us. What is wrong with people.

So let me get this straight: Your neighbor is not speaking to you because they feel you called community standards for a political sign they wanted to keep against deed restrictions and that they probably wouldn't have even had if this guy didn't come around and hand them out? You're right---what IS wrong with people

Challenger
02-20-2017, 11:00 AM
I am not a Christian and I think the small white crosses in front of people's homes are very tasteful.

Tasteful doesn't count- Permitted is the issue!!!!

skip0358
02-20-2017, 11:54 AM
I don't really care one way or another but I have a question & before you jump on me I know what the restriction says. WHY do I have to obey the deed restriction because my front yard faces a street and is visible to cars and must look oh so nice but it's ok for someones backyard the is visible to a street can look anyway it wants. Just curious ?

merrymini
02-20-2017, 12:37 PM
I moved to the villages because of the restrictions and because of the way it looked as a result of those restrictions. If you do not want restrictions, do not live here. There are communities that do not have any. It is your responsibility to learn what the restrictions are in your district and obey them. If you do not break the rules, you have nothing to worry about, regardless of who files a complaint.

Barefoot
02-20-2017, 01:33 PM
Unfortunately now at least one neighbor has assumed that we called Community Standards (we didn't) and reported them and as a result is not speaking to us.
I wouldn't get stressed about someone not speaking to me - that's high school behavior.

ColdNoMore
02-20-2017, 03:45 PM
I wouldn't get stressed about someone not speaking to me - that's high school behavior.

Yep. :D

:thumbup:

bbbbbb
02-20-2017, 03:51 PM
Hello and responding to the restrictions or none at all.

Before we purchased here, we had friends who told us the rules, lots of rules, we liked that.

However, we have found that after we buy and move in, the rules may not be enforced.

Without going into the details, if nothing is done to curb this habit of some folks getting out of line,,,,,,,,,,,,, then it will become another South LA or Chicago. So it is up to us to be neat, tidy, to respect others and pull together to make things look good and have an appearance of pride in owner ship. We have personally contacted Management about a couple of items, they do not seem to care, got the money so buzz off. I won't bother you with the items.
Hopefully, I will not get backlash on this, only interested in keeping this great place looking good.
bbbbbb
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PghGal
02-20-2017, 06:35 PM
We are looking to buy ( staying here this month ) we want to be in a tidy community with some privacy , any suggestions ? And what do the tiny ,white crosses mean ? A pet died ?

Bogie Shooter
02-20-2017, 07:27 PM
We are looking to buy ( staying here this month ) we want to be in a tidy community with some privacy , any suggestions ? And what do the tiny ,white crosses mean ? A pet died ?

The Villages is a tidy community....we run the untidy ones out of town.

Here is a thread on the little white crosses.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/small-white-crosses-218257/
No one is sure what they mean....................

OhioBuckeye
02-21-2017, 08:52 AM
You know I somewhat agree. TV have to have some restrictions on in home businesses & what goes on in & around your home just so some properties don't get like some cities that have bad end of towns. Then on the other hand, we buy properties that, (wink, wink), are suppose to own & it's like you don't own them because of so many things you can't do, so who owns them? I do know TV have to look after our best interest because if a neighbor says something to this person they might get violent. Where do you draw the line?

Doug526
02-21-2017, 09:30 AM
I am new to Villages. Live in Santo Domingo. Where do I find Deed Restrictions. I will be having new landscaping done and driveway designed next month. Don't want to start out not complying. Thank you, Doug

HiHoSteveO
02-21-2017, 09:54 AM
I am new to Villages. Live in Santo Domingo. Where do I find Deed Restrictions. I will be having new landscaping done and driveway designed next month. Don't want to start out not complying. Thank you, Doug

Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx)

Challenger
02-21-2017, 10:45 AM
Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx)

Your realtor should have given you a copy before you signed the contract. Go ask him/her.

Rapscallion St Croix
02-21-2017, 10:56 AM
Your realtor should have given you a copy before you signed the contract. Go ask him/her.

You think that is easier/quicker than just clicking on the link and downloading the document? It took me five seconds to be viewing my deed restrictions on the internet. If one has to look at their ID card to get their unit number, it may take up to a minute.

Bogie Shooter
02-21-2017, 01:00 PM
Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx)

Fraugoofy
02-21-2017, 08:58 PM
drop a dime on the cart business to the state & the IRS, any driveway business is most likely not paying taxes and handling hazardous waste correctly
I had to really think about the saying, "drop a dime." Funny how our language changes over time. In my lifetime I have only ever paid a quarter for a payphone call and when I asked my kids if they knew what "drop a dime" meant they had zero clue. Off topic a bit, but wanted to share anyway!

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skip0358
02-22-2017, 08:22 AM
Just want to say one thing about this. If you relly look at the restrictions there are many homes in TV that are in violation there are even some of the Districts items that don't comply. Having been turned in I won by the way I don't have sour grapes. 6 of my neighrs on either side of me are in violation but as long as it doesn't affect my property not my problem. I know that may sound dumb but I've seen what happens when one person getsturned in it starts a snowball. Another neighbor got turned in for a lawn ornament he was visited and told to remove it or be fined. Meanwhile the houses around him had similar items, the responsenot my problem turn them in if it bothers you. We need a TRUE deed compliance officer force. Just my opinion I know i'll get some backlash on this but !

DonH57
02-22-2017, 08:37 AM
Just want to say one thing about this. If you relly look at the restrictions there are many homes in TV that are in violation there are even some of the Districts items that don't comply. Having been turned in I won by the way I don't have sour grapes. 6 of my neighrs on either side of me are in violation but as long as it doesn't affect my property not my problem. I know that may sound dumb but I've seen what happens when one person getsturned in it starts a snowball. Another neighbor got turned in for a lawn ornament he was visited and told to remove it or be fined. Meanwhile the houses around him had similar items, the responsenot my problem turn them in if it bothers you. We need a TRUE deed compliance officer force. Just my opinion I know i'll get some backlash on this but !

I agree with you. Not only is it not my job but I'm too busy enjoying my life to worry over others' lives. It's just like every other government entitity understaffed. Not my circus, not my monkeys.:agree:

TheDude
02-22-2017, 09:54 PM
Just want to say one thing about this. If you relly look at the restrictions there are many homes in TV that are in violation there are even some of the Districts items that don't comply. Having been turned in I won by the way I don't have sour grapes. 6 of my neighrs on either side of me are in violation but as long as it doesn't affect my property not my problem. I know that may sound dumb but I've seen what happens when one person getsturned in it starts a snowball. Another neighbor got turned in for a lawn ornament he was visited and told to remove it or be fined. Meanwhile the houses around him had similar items, the responsenot my problem turn them in if it bothers you. We need a TRUE deed compliance officer force. Just my opinion I know i'll get some backlash on this but !

if the board approves it, then it is golden and nothing you can do. If not, knock yourself out. But remember, you may have a heart attack one day on your driveway and everyone may turn their backs. Karma is a b*

skip0358
02-22-2017, 10:36 PM
if the board approves it, then it is golden and nothing you can do. If not, knock yourself out. But remember, you may have a heart attack one day on your driveway and everyone may turn their backs. Karma is a b*

Your response to me makes no sense I have no desire to turn anyone in unless their violation affects my yard otherwise I dgas. As for me having a heart attack and no one helping don't get that part of your comment at all.

TheDude
02-22-2017, 10:39 PM
Your response to me makes no sense I have no desire to turn anyone in unless their violation affects my yard otherwise I dgas. As for me having a heart attack and no one helping don't get that part of your comment at all.

all apologizes, I thought you said you did turn them in (I am wrong). As for the driveway thing, it was to point out if someone turns in their neighbors then may need them one day.

Sorry for my mistakes

thelegges
02-23-2017, 03:32 AM
all apologizes, I thought you said you did turn them in (I am wrong). As for the driveway thing, it was to point out if someone turns in their neighbors then may need them one day.

Sorry for my mistakes

No worries, we have so many AEDs here even if you do not contribute or they don't like you, the crew will come.

birdawg
02-23-2017, 08:09 AM
Approval from ARC, does not mean the work done is the same that was approved. There is no follow up to check if the work completed is what they were approved for, unless there is a complaint.