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cologal
02-13-2017, 11:07 PM
One gator out of the swamp!

rubicon
02-14-2017, 05:48 AM
As i predicted on another political thread Republicans will always do the right thing when one of their own does the wrong thing. I wagered he would resign

Now only if progressives were that honorable. ..what wonderful world this would be.

Personal Best Regards:

hypocritehunter
02-14-2017, 06:00 AM
As i predicted on another political thread Republicans will always do the right thing when one of their own does the wrong thing. I wagered he would resign

Now only if progressives were that honorable. ..what wonderful world this would be.

Personal Best Regards:

How funny. You're able to spin this as conservatives are being honorable when they lie. I'm sure Trump could use you as one of his advisors.

For your information; Flynn resigned only when he was caught. Trump had been briefed on Flynn's lie but did nothing until it became public. So much for honorable! This story is just beginning. No way these honorable republicans can sweep this one under the carpet. I'll bet Trump was the one to tell Flynn to call the Russians.

ColdNoMore
02-14-2017, 06:38 AM
How funny. You're able to spin this as conservatives are being honorable when they lie. I'm sure Trump could use you as one of his advisors.

For your information; Flynn resigned only when he was caught. Trump had been briefed on Flynn's lie but did nothing until it became public. So much for honorable! This story is just beginning. No way these honorable republicans can sweep this one under the carpet. I'll bet Trump was the one to tell Flynn to call the Russians.

Exactly! :oops:


Now let's watch and see if the truth comes out that not only did Chump tell Flynn to do it...but to also lie to his own VP. :22yikes:


Should be fun to watch. :popcorn:

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 07:14 AM
As i predicted on another political thread Republicans will always do the right thing when one of their own does the wrong thing. I wagered he would resign

Now only if progressives were that honorable. ..what wonderful world this would be.

Personal Best Regards:

Amazing...this is the tip of the iceberg.

This is step 1 protection of Trump. He has known this, and may be a party to it.

Your twist is beyond comprehension. Your blind and total faith in a man who has a complete life's work of lying and moral conduct that can only called horrendouss is stupefying.

Taltarzac725
02-14-2017, 07:39 AM
What about Donald Trump's ties to Putin? They should be digging into this for all it is worth. I mean Congress and the Press.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 07:44 AM
What about Donald Trump's ties to Putin? They should be digging into this for all it is worth. I mean Congress and the Press.

I believe that is happening.

Should they determine that Trump KNEW, ordered it, or agreed..then breakout the impeachment guide.

Trump has spent his life "outside the lines", and it seems no stretch that given the opportunity, he would "make a deal" to have the Russians assist in swaying the election.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 07:50 AM
What about Donald Trump's ties to Putin? They should be digging into this for all it is worth. I mean Congress and the Press.

By the way, FOX has a different spin to push.

They are pushing the leaks, that they claim come from the intelligence community and how unfair to Trump.

Not a word on US Security, and not a word on FOX's use of leaks, especially during the campaign.

As one who used to frequent Fox, I am very disappointed.

dave harris
02-14-2017, 07:51 AM
As i predicted on another political thread Republicans will always do the right thing when one of their own does the wrong thing. I wagered he would resign

Now only if progressives were that honorable. ..what wonderful world this would be.

Personal Best Regards:

" the Justice Department warned several weeks ago that due to his links with Russia he could be at risk of blackmail."

Why did it take so long? Amature hour in the White House.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 08:06 AM
" the Justice Department warned several weeks ago that due to his links with Russia he could be at risk of blackmail."

Why did it take so long? Amature hour in the White House.

Interesting that the person who warned the Trump WH IN JANUARY was the AG that Trump fired and blasted.

Remember, warned in Jan...Trump said YESTERDAY that he knew nothing.

Yates, the fired AG notified Trump for his own protection.

Taltarzac725
02-14-2017, 08:06 AM
" the Justice Department warned several weeks ago that due to his links with Russia he could be at risk of blackmail."

Why did it take so long? Amature hour in the White House.

It has been that way since Donald John Trump took Office.

billethkid
02-14-2017, 09:11 AM
How funny. You're able to spin this as conservatives are being honorable when they lie. I'm sure Trump could use you as one of his advisors.

For your information; Flynn resigned only when he was caught. Trump had been briefed on Flynn's lie but did nothing until it became public. So much for honorable! This story is just beginning. No way these honorable republicans can sweep this one under the carpet. I'll bet Trump was the one to tell Flynn to call the Russians.

Seems to me there was a saying something like the ONLY time one is guilty is when they get caught.

billethkid
02-14-2017, 09:16 AM
" the Justice Department warned several weeks ago that due to his links with Russia he could be at risk of blackmail."

Why did it take so long? Amature hour in the White House.

Is that a cute statement from the partisan talking points bulletin of the week?

Amateurs? No one will ever come close to the Obama and team record in that arena.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 09:24 AM
Is that a cute statement from the partisan talking points bulletin of the week?

Amateurs? No one will ever come close to the Obama and team record in that arena.

I have asked this question a number of times but yet to get an answer.....

Does everything dishonest or unsavory that happens with the current administration get wiped away with a reference to the last administration ?

Rosie1950
02-14-2017, 09:28 AM
Seems it's funny that Flynn that was the one getting the daily briefings and not the self proclaimed genius Chimp! Could this eminent new of terrible danger be coming from the conspiracy theory Flynn. Remember the justices asked what the NEW eminent danger was there were crickets in the room, no answer. This whole White House needs to go. One thing is for sure. The one thing Flynn, Manafort and Putin have in common is Trump!!!!!!!

What the hell is going on, Now you have Collins saying this morning that the GOP feels this is over now it's time to move on. They's Valentines Day with their spouses!

NO IT'S TIME FOR CHIMP AND ENTIRE STAFF TO MOVE ON.

Don Baldwin
02-14-2017, 09:46 AM
Seems it's funny that Flynn that was the one getting the daily briefings and not the self proclaimed genius Chimp! Could this eminent new of terrible danger be coming from the conspiracy theory Flynn. Remember the justices asked what the NEW eminent danger was there were crickets in the room, no answer. This whole White House needs to go. One thing is for sure. The one thing Flynn, Manafort and Putin have in common is Trump!!!!!!!

What the hell is going on, Now you have Collins saying this morning that the GOP feels this is over now it's time to move on. They's Valentines Day with their spouses!

NO IT'S TIME FOR CHIMP AND ENTIRE STAFF TO MOVE ON.

Rosie,

Don't you realize that when O got elected, there were a lot of people as adamantly against him as you are to Mr T?

Reign in your emotions...Mr T is JUST another "face" for the people to follow/hate as the case may be...as the agenda of the corporate owners goes on. This is a changing of the underlings...to spread the wealth. To keep THEM from gaining too much power/control. The system goes on...the corruption goes on...the warring goes on...the stealing from the taxpayer goes on.

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss.

"Elections" are nothing more than the "powers that be", the real rulers...throwing out a bunch of guys who will ALL work for them...to see who the public like the most. It's a popularity contest between people who all work for the same guys. You're choosing which of their employees will lead you. Our elections aren't a choice. Nobody will vote for anyone but a D or R...and ALL the D and R candidates are on the take. When I pre-pick who you can choose from...is it a choice? When mom said...you have a choice between between spinach and brussels sprouts...was that REALLY a choice for you? What about corn on the cob? That's the 3rd party candidate. But "mom" won't let you have that one..."mom" knows what's best for you. "Momma will make everything alright."

hypocritehunter
02-14-2017, 10:03 AM
I have asked this question a number of times but yet to get an answer.....

Does everything dishonest or unsavory that happens with the current administration get wiped away with a reference to the last administration ?

Ya, just about. These folks don't care about the country they are more concerned with saving face. They don't want to admit they are morons for believing Trump's lies.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 10:23 AM
Seems it's funny that Flynn that was the one getting the daily briefings and not the self proclaimed genius Chimp! Could this eminent new of terrible danger be coming from the conspiracy theory Flynn. Remember the justices asked what the NEW eminent danger was there were crickets in the room, no answer. This whole White House needs to go. One thing is for sure. The one thing Flynn, Manafort and Putin have in common is Trump!!!!!!!

What the hell is going on, Now you have Collins saying this morning that the GOP feels this is over now it's time to move on. They's Valentines Day with their spouses!

NO IT'S TIME FOR CHIMP AND ENTIRE STAFF TO MOVE ON.

The investigation will continue and may take time. There will be further leaks and further denials.

That is how these things go. If you recall both Nixon and Clinton, both began with leaks, denials and lets move on. This is not like a business where it is just let go because the boss is upset. WE are the boss, and these career. patriotic folks in justice will untangle this in due time.

Flynn DID NOT do this on his own. He and Trump and Bannon all share and have shared the delight in furthering fake news (Bannon and Flynn have been addicted to it..recall the sex ring thing during the campaign).

The timing for this and the other dossier are perfect. Reports are now becoming visible on that dossier about Trump (not claiming it is all true, but they have confirmed some) and the timing of that information, the Flynn conversation, the hacking, the leaks, etc....it seems that all the timing is just perfect.

But nobody is guilty on this tidbits....has to be proven.

If Trump did nothing wrong, I think it will come out...if he did, I think that will also.

And remember, Clinton..Nixon and this Flynn thing was all about the coverup. The media that everyone hates just keeps them honest, along with our patriotic career justice department employees and they wont stop thankfully.

billethkid
02-14-2017, 11:16 AM
The investigation will continue and may take time. There will be further leaks and further denials.

That is how these things go. If you recall both Nixon and Clinton, both began with leaks, denials and lets move on. This is not like a business where it is just let go because the boss is upset. WE are the boss, and these career. patriotic folks in justice will untangle this in due time.

Flynn DID NOT do this on his own. He and Trump and Bannon all share and have shared the delight in furthering fake news (Bannon and Flynn have been addicted to it..recall the sex ring thing during the campaign).

The timing for this and the other dossier are perfect. Reports are now becoming visible on that dossier about Trump (not claiming it is all true, but they have confirmed some) and the timing of that information, the Flynn conversation, the hacking, the leaks, etc....it seems that all the timing is just perfect.

But nobody is guilty on this tidbits....has to be proven.

If Trump did nothing wrong, I think it will come out...if he did, I think that will also.

And remember, Clinton..Nixon and this Flynn thing was all about the coverup. The media that everyone hates just keeps them honest, along with our patriotic career justice department employees and they wont stop thankfully.

You were doing fine until the last statement which obviously gives away the true position on the matter.
ANYBODY who believes the media keeps anybody "honest" but those of their interest or agenda is either super naieve or completely partisan brainwashed.

The same to be said about the courts except not as totally inclusive as the media.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 01:21 PM
You were doing fine until the last statement which obviously gives away the true position on the matter.
ANYBODY who believes the media keeps anybody "honest" but those of their interest or agenda is either super naieve or completely partisan brainwashed.

The same to be said about the courts except not as totally inclusive as the media.

You have to be in a dream world not to realize these facts appear to have been presented to the White House by the soon to be fired Attorney General, and had not the media kept digging, nothing would have been done. The coverup always will get you, because people begin to lie to CYA, and that can be ferreted out.

The press, believe it or not...specifically The NY Times really pushed a number of irregularities in the story on Benghazi...CNN as I recall ran an hour long special early in.

Clinton's screwing in the WH began with a small story on Drudge. And the press then brought forth much identified past things, and the cover up on Lewinski

Nixon, as we all know was a simple break in and the media just kept going.

Media role is to keep these people honest, and I just have to smile at the many on here who make them out to be political activists. NEWS and COMMENTARY are different, and so many on here either ignore or don't read NEWS, but seem to be at the mercy of COMMENTARY

Rosie1950
02-14-2017, 03:05 PM
[QUOTE=Guest]You have to be in a dream world not to realize these facts appear to have been presented to the White House by the soon to be fired Attorney General, and had not the media kept digging, nothing would have been done. The coverup always will get you, because people begin to lie to CYA, and that can be ferreted out.

The press, believe it or not...specifically The NY Times really pushed a number of irregularities in the story on Benghazi...CNN as I recall ran an hour long special early in.

Clinton's screwing in the WH began with a small story on Drudge. And the press then brought forth much identified past things, and the cover up on Lewinski

Nixon, as we all know was a simple break in and the media just kept going.

Media role is to keep these people honest, and I just have to smile at the many on here who make them out to be political activists. NEWS and COMMENTARY are different, and so many on here either ignore or don't read NEWS, but seem to be at the mercy of COMMENTARY[/QUOTE

Just watched the press briefing, I don't know how Spicer was NOT laughed off the dais "President Trump has been very hard on Russia"!!!! What a joke. Is he now trying to cover his tracks?

Evidently if it was not for the "LEAKS" which Trump insists are the true story here, Flynn would still have a job!

IF it's all about trust, why wasn't trust lost on Jan 26th when the AG went to the WH with the info about the then lying through his teeth Flynn? WHY, you might ask, because the Washington Post had not broken the story yet that Flynn was lying!!!!!

Woodward and Bernstein need to get together again cause this smacks of SWAMPGATE.

If you are not intelligent enough to figure out what is real and what is not then your just stupid, so when you don't watch any news and yet try to debate the subject you sound like and idiot, because you are repeating something from someone else who just got the story wrong or OH I KNOW you got if from the worlds most accurate source FACE BOOK! (or the Daily Sun)

By the way Kellyanne Connway was at the press briefing and she looks like hell BIG bags under her eyes, maybe Ivanka has some shoes to go with those bags.:pepper2::pepper2:

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 05:00 PM
[QUOTE=Guest]You have to be in a dream world not to realize these facts appear to have been presented to the White House by the soon to be fired Attorney General, and had not the media kept digging, nothing would have been done. The coverup always will get you, because people begin to lie to CYA, and that can be ferreted out.

The press, believe it or not...specifically The NY Times really pushed a number of irregularities in the story on Benghazi...CNN as I recall ran an hour long special early in.

Clinton's screwing in the WH began with a small story on Drudge. And the press then brought forth much identified past things, and the cover up on Lewinski

Nixon, as we all know was a simple break in and the media just kept going.

Media role is to keep these people honest, and I just have to smile at the many on here who make them out to be political activists. NEWS and COMMENTARY are different, and so many on here either ignore or don't read NEWS, but seem to be at the mercy of COMMENTARY[/QUOTE

Just watched the press briefing, I don't know how Spicer was NOT laughed off the dais "President Trump has been very hard on Russia"!!!! What a joke. Is he now trying to cover his tracks?

Evidently if it was not for the "LEAKS" which Trump insists are the true story here, Flynn would still have a job!

IF it's all about trust, why wasn't trust lost on Jan 26th when the AG went to the WH with the info about the then lying through his teeth Flynn? WHY, you might ask, because the Washington Post had not broken the story yet that Flynn was lying!!!!!

Woodward and Bernstein need to get together again cause this smacks of SWAMPGATE.

If you are not intelligent enough to figure out what is real and what is not then your just stupid, so when you don't watch any news and yet try to debate the subject you sound like and idiot, because you are repeating something from someone else who just got the story wrong or OH I KNOW you got if from the worlds most accurate source FACE BOOK! (or the Daily Sun)

By the way Kellyanne Connway was at the press briefing and she looks like hell BIG bags under her eyes, maybe Ivanka has some shoes to go with those bags.:pepper2::pepper2:


Actually, I thought Spicer did a pretty good job, however...the questions remain.

Spicer was very very clear that Flynn was asked to resign because when he found out that Flynn had lied to Pence, he lost confidence in hm. Was very clear, that was the only reason.

Trump, we are now told, was told about 17 days ago. No explanation for the delay, however....

When found out the Washington Post, New York Times, and the Wall St Journal were going to headline suddenly he is cut loose. Timeline has the President denying even knowing at approx 1PM, Conway giving the President has full confidence in Flynn. Later in the evening he is history. Actually Conway mentioned how he was still functioning on the Security Council

Keep in mind what one of his biographer had to say...

"Donald Trump has a "minimal relationship with the truth," according to the GOP nominee's biographer David Cay Johnston.

"Donald makes up things he creates his own reality," Johnston said on CNBC's "Power Lunch" on Wednesday. "And in his mind, there's nothing wrong with that."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-biographer-donald-creates-his-own-reality.html

Now all day, the WH and Fox are headlining the leaks, and that is fair. Just to remind you of something, and I hate to do this, but I do not recall his name, but a reporter who was around during Clinto AND Nixon.....he basically said his experience is you have minimal leaks until you begin to lie, then there will be leaks.-

Sandtrap328
02-14-2017, 05:27 PM
Flynn is the first to be thrown under the bus. Conway will be next to go.

The Trumpanzee administration is going to fall FAST. Tell Speaker Ryan to get ready to take over!!!

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 05:32 PM
Flynn is the first to be thrown under the bus. Conway will be next to go.

The Trumpanzee administration is going to fall FAST. Tell Speaker Ryan to get ready to take over!!!

Interesting.

Today it was reported...late today that VP Pence was not even told at inauguration time that the Justice Department warned Trump that Flynn could be blackmailed. The VP then lied because he was lied to.

Sources tell me that loyal Republicans are really upset that Trump intentionally kept Pence out of the loop.

Sources ? Who knows.

Let's keep in mind, his choice as very suspect, and still is. Good General, but this is not his first firing.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 06:34 PM
Life just keeps getting better...

"A Russian spy ship was spotted patrolling off the East Coast of the United States on Tuesday morning, the first such instance during the Trump administration -- and the same day it was learned the Kremlin had secretly deployed controversial cruise missiles inside Russia and flew within 200 yards of a U.S. Navy destroyer, U.S. officials told Fox News.

Russia sends spy ship near US coast, deploys banned missiles at home, officials say | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/14/russian-spy-ship-off-east-coast-us-officials-say.html)

dave harris
02-14-2017, 06:41 PM
[QUOTE=Guest]Is that a cute statement from the partisan talking points bulletin of the week?

Amateurs? No one will ever come close to the Obama and team record

Obama did it, he told the donald to violate the Logan Act LOL

Rosie1950
02-14-2017, 06:52 PM
[QUOTE=Guest]


Actually, I thought Spicer did a pretty good job, however...the questions remain.

Spicer was very very clear that Flynn was asked to resign because when he found out that Flynn had lied to Pence, he lost confidence in hm. Was very clear, that was the only reason.

Trump, we are now told, was told about 17 days ago. No explanation for the delay, however....

When found out the Washington Post, New York Times, and the Wall St Journal were going to headline suddenly he is cut loose. Timeline has the President denying even knowing at approx 1PM, Conway giving the President has full confidence in Flynn. Later in the evening he is history. Actually Conway mentioned how he was still functioning on the Security Council

Keep in mind what one of his biographer had to say...

"Donald Trump has a "minimal relationship with the truth," according to the GOP nominee's biographer David Cay Johnston.

"Donald makes up things he creates his own reality," Johnston said on CNBC's "Power Lunch" on Wednesday. "And in his mind, there's nothing wrong with that."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-biographer-donald-creates-his-own-reality.html

Now all day, the WH and Fox are headlining the leaks, and that is fair. Just to remind you of something, and I hate to do this, but I do not recall his name, but a reporter who was around during Clinto AND Nixon.....he basically said his experience is you have minimal leaks until you begin to lie, then there will be leaks.-

Last time there were leaks like this Noah built himself an ARK!

Good job LOL, one lies the other swears to it. Spicey eventually will be laughed off the stage. First time they didn't blame Obama Administration, but he did make a point of blaming the AG. But no worries the new AG Racist will do much better.

Who will ever be inclined to believe an explanation from the white haired wonder again.

IF they followed the ONE PRESIDENT AT A TIME courtesy they wouldn't be having these problems in the swamp.

Chump was very quick to praise Putin ( per usual ) for not retaliating with his own sanctions. HUM seems funny since Russia usually mirrors exactly what was done to them.

ME THINKS THERE"S A SKUNK IN THE WOOD PILE AND HIS NANE IS TRUMP!!!!!!!! barf

billethkid
02-14-2017, 07:04 PM
I have asked this question a number of times but yet to get an answer.....

Does everything dishonest or unsavory that happens with the current administration get wiped away with a reference to the last administration ?

You anti Trump folks, the ones who lost the election are so very funny in your hypocracy.

To answer the question above! No more than all we ever heard from Obama and his media and his supporters was Bush did this or that or was to blame.

It is a hazard of following only the talking points guide as it will never warn you when the dems did exactly the same thing....times some inordinate multiple!!

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 07:13 PM
[QUOTE=Guest]

Last time there were leaks like this Noah built himself an ARK!

Good job LOL, one lies the other swears to it. Spicey eventually will be laughed off the stage. First time they didn't blame Obama Administration, but he did make a point of blaming the AG. But no worries the new AG Racist will do much better.

Who will ever be inclined to believe an explanation from the white haired wonder again.

IF they followed the ONE PRESIDENT AT A TIME courtesy they wouldn't be having these problems in the swamp.

Chump was very quick to praise Putin ( per usual ) for not retaliating with his own sanctions. HUM seems funny since Russia usually mirrors exactly what was done to them.

ME THINKS THERE"S A SKUNK IN THE WOOD PILE AND HIS NANE IS TRUMP!!!!!!!! barf

If not for the Washington Post, this story would never have seen the light of day. THAT IS A FACT.

Trump does nothing if not for the Post, followed by Times and Journal. He actually kept this from Pence and I feel sorry for this guy.

All the timing, dates etc. are beginning to line up, and now appear to be able to prove some of the dossier to be true..timing in line to show lines that a deal was struck with Russia.

The leaks will not stop as long as he keeps lying, tweeting and bullying.

And he is now trying to make the links the story, not the facts.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 07:16 PM
You anti Trump folks, the ones who lost the election are so very funny in your hypocracy.

To answer the question above! No more than all we ever heard from Obama and his media and his supporters was Bush did this or that or was to blame.

It is a hazard of following only the talking points guide as it will never warn you when the dems did exactly the same thing....times some inordinate multiple!!

Obama administration was so boring.

25 days in and we have the ethics committee, security council all investigating....run by Republicans I mind you.

Tired of hearing about Obama..hated his policies, but nothing like this.

Rockyrd
02-14-2017, 08:46 PM
Just an FYI...this situation needs a response of something

"WASHINGTON — Russia has secretly deployed a new cruise missile that American officials say violates a landmark arms control treaty, posing a major test for President Trump as his administration is facing a crisis over its ties to Moscow.

The new Russian missile deployment also comes as the Trump administration is struggling to fill key policy positions at the State Department and the Pentagon — and to settle on a permanent replacement for Michael T. Flynn, the national security adviser who resigned late Monday. Mr. Flynn stepped down after it was revealed that he had misled the vice president and other officials over conversations with Moscow’s ambassador to Washington."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/world/europe/russia-cruise-missile-arms-control-treaty.html?_r=0

affald
02-14-2017, 11:51 PM
Just an FYI...this situation needs a response of something

"WASHINGTON — Russia has secretly deployed a new cruise missile that American officials say violates a landmark arms control treaty, posing a major test for President Trump as his administration is facing a crisis over its ties to Moscow.

The new Russian missile deployment also comes as the Trump administration is struggling to fill key policy positions at the State Department and the Pentagon — and to settle on a permanent replacement for Michael T. Flynn, the national security adviser who resigned late Monday. Mr. Flynn stepped down after it was revealed that he had misled the vice president and other officials over conversations with Moscow’s ambassador to Washington."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/world/europe/russia-cruise-missile-arms-control-treaty.html?_r=0
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