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jebartle
02-21-2017, 01:11 PM
Have heard estimates as high as 30 billion. Lots of spending, no savings.
Deficit will REALLY be out of sight!

MDLNB
02-21-2017, 04:45 PM
Have heard estimates as high as 30 billion. Lots of spending, no savings.
Deficit will REALLY be out of sight!

Illegal aliens cost America billions of bucks every year. I would rather put that money into securing our borders than on people that cr@p on our laws. Personally, I would put snipers on top of the wall too. Anyone climbing up the wall would be put back down, hard. Sorry if that offends anyone, but....actually, not really sorry. Live with it.

ColdNoMore
02-21-2017, 04:55 PM
The ones defending the border don't want a wall...they want a FENCE! :oops:

Trump wants a 'wall'. Border experts want a fence - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/trump-border-wall/index.html)


President Trump wants a wall along the border with Mexico.
Career officials at the agencies most involved in the process, however, are set to recommend a fence—one that will cover only about half the length, CNN has learned.

CNN spoke to more than two dozen sources and experts, including some who are part of high level discussions with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

A fence gives us much better security (plus being a LOT cheaper), but Chump can't take the chance of losing face since he has insisted it will be a "wall"...regardless of what the experts say. :ohdear:

It will be fun watching him squirm and backtrack though, if by some small chance...he actually listens to those who know a he11 of a lot more than he does. :oops:

Any bets that he will admit he's wrong though? :D

ColdNoMore
02-21-2017, 05:00 PM
Illegal aliens cost America billions of bucks every year. I would rather put that money into securing our borders than on people that cr@p on our laws. Personally, I would put snipers on top of the wall too. Anyone climbing up the wall would be put back down, hard. Sorry if that offends anyone, but....actually, not really sorry. Live with it.

So just murder unarmed men, women and children?

You really are a sick, depraved fvck. :ohdear:

But you would fit right in with the Russia that Putin wants to go back to (the Berlin Wall era), so why don't you move there...and then you can support Chump that way?


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

jebartle
02-21-2017, 05:09 PM
There are so many ways to get in this country, not sure a wall will make any difference. For every wall, there is a tunnel, ladder. Where there is a will, there is a way. Why spend money if it won't help!

Sandtrap328
02-21-2017, 06:27 PM
There are so many ways to get in this country, not sure a wall will make any difference. For every wall, there is a tunnel, ladder. Where there is a will, there is a way. Why spend money if it won't help!

MDLBTQ is saying he wants snipers to kill people who would climb a wall.

Would you also advocate a Northern wall to keep Canadians "oot" and advocate killing them as well - or is that your remedy only for non-whites?

How about telling all of the political forum exactly what you did for a career? Insurance salesman, accounting, used car salesman, or jerkoff!

ColdNoMore
02-21-2017, 06:36 PM
MDLBTQ is saying he wants snipers to kill people who would climb a wall.

Would you also advocate a Northern wall to keep Canadians "oot" and advocate killing them as well - or is that your remedy only for non-whites?

Great question, but we know his primary hatred is like Baldwin's/Larbug's/RubiTHECon's/DirtBag's/Etc...toward those with brown skin. :ohdear:




How about telling all of the political forum exactly what you did for a career? Insurance salesman, accounting, used car salesman, or jerkoff!

Regardless of what else...definitely the last one too. :thumbup:

Golf View
02-21-2017, 06:57 PM
Have heard estimates as high as 30 billion. Lots of spending, no savings.
Deficit will REALLY be out of sight!

Do we really want a wall? Yes Yes Yes 11 Million times Yes. Where do you get the idea there would be no savings?

Cedwards38
02-21-2017, 07:15 PM
"Trump's Wall" is a political boondoggle that will solve absolutely nothing. It's good only for those constructing walls, the sellers of shovels and ladders, and those who believe in simplistic solutions for complex problems. It's an incredible waste of so much money that could be used for real solutions to real problems. So, no, I don't. Well, at least the rest of the world gets a laugh at our expense.

cologal
02-21-2017, 07:16 PM
There are so many ways to get in this country, not sure a wall will make any difference. For every wall, there is a tunnel, ladder. Where there is a will, there is a way. Why spend money if it won't help!

There is one way to ensure our border will be secure. That would be to enforce the I-9 law for ALL EMPLOYERS!

If the employer is found to be out of compliance fine them! Then deport the illegal!

cologal
02-21-2017, 07:17 PM
Do we really want a wall? Yes Yes Yes 11 Million times Yes. Where do you get the idea there would be no savings?

Because most of the people fly in now!

Don Baldwin
02-21-2017, 08:14 PM
Have heard estimates as high as 30 billion. Lots of spending, no savings.
Deficit will REALLY be out of sight!

Are you kidding me? $30 billion is chump change...they borrow over $1 TRILLION every year. They build more than 33 of those $30 billion walls each year.

QE and the POMOs were $90 billion a MONTH.

Illegal aliens cost America billions of bucks every year. I would rather put that money into securing our borders than on people that cr@p on our laws. Personally, I would put snipers on top of the wall too. Anyone climbing up the wall would be put back down, hard. Sorry if that offends anyone, but....actually, not really sorry. Live with it.

Should have done that 30 years ago...it's almost too late now...might as well leave it open there are so many "citizen" anchor babies.

So just murder unarmed men, women and children?

You really are a sick, depraved fvck. :ohdear:

But you would fit right in with the Russia that Putin wants to go back to (the Berlin Wall era), so why don't you move there...and then you can support Chump that way?


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Murder? If there are signs? Don't climb the wall/fence...you won't get shot. How about someone robbing a bank, should they not be "murdered" by police too? BOTH are committing a crime.

MDLBTQ is saying he wants snipers to kill people who would climb a wall.

Would you also advocate a Northern wall to keep Canadians "oot" and advocate killing them as well - or is that your remedy only for non-whites?

How about telling all of the political forum exactly what you did for a career? Insurance salesman, accounting, used car salesman, or jerkoff!

Canadians aren't taking over the country by leaving 50 million anchor babies behind...who are now having their own kids. Canadians aren't 1/3 the population, they're not breeding us out of our own country.

Great question, but we know his primary hatred is like Baldwin's/Larbug's/RubiTHECon's/DirtBag's/Etc...toward those with brown skin. :ohdear:

Regardless of what else...definitely the last one too. :thumbup:

What do people with brown skin contribute as a whole? Half of them are on welfare. they're anywhere from 4 to 10X more violent. EVERYWHERE they live sucks. Every school they "take over", sucks. Everywhere they converge...sucks. What good ARE they?

"Trump's Wall" is a political boondoggle that will solve absolutely nothing. It's good only for those constructing walls, the sellers of shovels and ladders, and those who believe in simplistic solutions for complex problems. It's an incredible waste of so much money that could be used for real solutions to real problems. So, no, I don't. Well, at least the rest of the world gets a laugh at our expense.

As I said...it's already too late for the wall...that's why they're offering it...yes...to reward a few wall builders who contributed to the campaign. It's jobs...just hope they don't hire Hispanics.

There is one way to ensure our border will be secure. That would be to enforce the I-9 law for ALL EMPLOYERS!

If the employer is found to be out of compliance fine them! Then deport the illegal!

Won't happen...politically too powerful...BOTH the ag businesses who hire them...and now...the Hispanics themselves who are now 1/3 the population...and growing.

The country is dead in 30 years or less.

jebartle
02-22-2017, 08:43 AM
Are you kidding me? $30 billion is chump change...they borrow over $1 TRILLION every year. They build more than 33 of those $30 billion walls each year.

QE and the POMOs were $90 billion a MONTH.



Should have done that 30 years ago...it's almost too late now...might as well leave it open there are so many "citizen" anchor babies.



Murder? If there are signs? Don't climb the wall/fence...you won't get shot. How about someone robbing a bank, should they not be "murdered" by police too? BOTH are committing a crime.



Canadians aren't taking over the country by leaving 50 million anchor babies behind...who are now having their own kids. Canadians aren't 1/3 the population, they're not breeding us out of our own country.



What do people with brown skin contribute as a whole? Half of them are on welfare. they're anywhere from 4 to 10X more violent. EVERYWHERE they live sucks. Every school they "take over", sucks. Everywhere they converge...sucks. What good ARE they?



As I said...it's already too late for the wall...that's why they're offering it...yes...to reward a few wall builders who contributed to the campaign. It's jobs...just hope they don't hire Hispanics.



Won't happen...politically too powerful...BOTH the ag businesses who hire them...and now...the Hispanics themselves who are now 1/3 the population...and growing.

The country is dead in 30 years or less.

you are one sick racist, what is wrong with you, are you taking your medication!!??!!!???

leftyf
02-22-2017, 08:45 AM
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

If you have never been to the border, you don't even have a dog in the fight.

dirtbanker
02-22-2017, 09:15 AM
Great question, but we know his primary hatred is like Baldwin's/Larbug's/RubiTHECon's/DirtBag's/Etc...toward those with brown skin.

Now that is funny, the person that inferred "people that do not speak good English are undocumented" wants to accuse others of hatred based on skin color...Ha Ha Ha!

Possibly you can provide an example of these posts about hating people with "brown skin"?

Taltarzac725
02-22-2017, 09:28 AM
Way too simplistic an idea for Donald Trump with respect to this wall. For one thing, how do you put a wall up at the Rio Grande? Then there is the problem of so much of the property along the border is owned by private people. These cases could be in court long after Trump has come and gone as President of the United States.

A wall might stop small group and individuals from getting across. But if you have a cartel or some terrorist group trying to get through human intelligence in the form of informants is far more useful than an alienated group of border dwellers who probably have little reason to help us. Cartels and terrorists often have money to corrupt border security agents and the like.

billethkid
02-22-2017, 09:36 AM
The anti wall discussion and promoting and parroting is not about the wall. It is about Trump who wants the wall.

It has been said for years, long before Trump, the first step in controlling illegal immigration from Mexico is to get control of the border.

If any of the anti wall proponents had some personal investment in the issue there would no doubt be a different tune being heralded. Like if they had a home nearby....or there was an alien foot path through their property or if a loved one had been assaulted or killed by a border jumper.

Personal investment, first hand involvement and first hand knowledge = zero!

Taltarzac725
02-22-2017, 09:40 AM
The anti wall discussion and promoting and parroting is not about the wall. It is about Trump who wants the wall.

It has been said for years, long before Trump, the first step in controlling illegal immigration from Mexico is to get control of the border.

If any of the anti wall proponents had some personal investment in the issue there would no doubt be a different tune being heralded. Like if they had a home nearby....or there was an alien foot path through their property or if a loved one had been assaulted or killed by a border jumper.

Personal investment, first hand involvement and first hand knowledge = zero!

This is a vast border to the South. How is any kind of "wall" going to secure it? We have technology watching it and spies in places that they should be.

A wall in a specific area where it is needed is one thing but Trump's idiotic idea of a construction like the Great Wall of China is just mind-boggling for the 21st Century.

billethkid
02-22-2017, 09:49 AM
This is a vast border to the South. How is any kind of "wall" going to secure it? We have technology watching it and spies in places that they should be.

A wall in a specific area where it is needed is one thing but Trump's idiotic idea of a construction like the Great Wall of China is just mind-boggling for the 21st Century.

And how well is all the monitoring and technology doing?
It is used to sow and demonstrate the ease with which thousands stream across UNIMPEDED.

We currently have and have had an open border, including releasing those who have been captured breaking the law allowing immigrants...good and bad.....to cross into our country illegally.

Why is the issue of illegality always glossed over?
Why is it OK for immigrants, especially from and through Mexico to freely have access to America?
When it is against the laws of the land?

cologal
02-22-2017, 10:00 AM
Did you miss the post about the I-9 form. Do you even know what I-9 is used for?

billethkid
02-22-2017, 10:06 AM
Did you miss the post about the I-9 form. Do you even know what I-9 is used for?

This has what to do with illegal immigration?

Don Baldwin
02-22-2017, 10:16 AM
you are one sick racist, what is wrong with you, are you taking your medication!!??!!!???

The better question is...what is WRONG with ANYTHING I've said?

The truth IS racist...we've already established that. IF we ALL spoke the truth about the minorities...there wouldn't be any left...we'd have all agreed and kicked them ALL out.

The proof is on ANY MLK Blvd...the proof is all along the border. They are NOT us.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

If you have never been to the border, you don't even have a dog in the fight.

I take it you agreed with me? The Hispanic invasion is well under way? The border areas are cesspools of nastiness and violence...because of THEM. It's not the white people, it's the BROWN people...ALWAYS causing trouble.

They WILL be the majority in 30 years, the "border" will spread north and eventually the whole country will be Mexico II...the border counties already are Mexico II.

Taltarzac725
02-22-2017, 10:24 AM
And how well is all the monitoring and technology doing?
It is used to sow and demonstrate the ease with which thousands stream across UNIMPEDED.

We currently have and have had an open border, including releasing those who have been captured breaking the law allowing immigrants...good and bad.....to cross into our country illegally.

Why is the issue of illegality always glossed over?
Why is it OK for immigrants, especially from and through Mexico to freely have access to America?
When it is against the laws of the land?

Many were sent back though by President Obama. They do keeping trying to get through though.

Don Baldwin
02-22-2017, 10:51 AM
Many were sent back though by President Obama. They do keeping trying to get through though.

It's NOT the illegals that are the problem...it's the ANCHOR BABIES they leave behind. Full fledged American citizens...automatically eligible for ALL the welfare programs. That US birth certificate is GOLD. They've left 10s of millions of anchor babies behind. They are having their own kids. They are the majority entering school. They WILL take over within 30 years and make this Mexico II. We can't stop them.