Heavy Traffic

[Chatbrat]

Looking @ the back trying to get thru the St.Charles gate, reminded me of the backups just before the BQE-

They should get a community watch person or a police officer to stop people from waving carts thru--Lt Siemer said its against the law.

[graciegirl]

Looking @ the back trying to get thru the St.Charles gate, reminded me of the backups just before the BQE-

They should get a community watch person or a police officer to stop people from waving carts thru--Lt Siemer said its against the law.

Patience Grasshopper. In four weeks the birdies will fly away and the traffic won't be as congested.

[Bogie Shooter]

How long a wait at St Charles gate? 30 seconds?

Went to Ocala this AM............lot of traffic.
Traveled on I75................lot of traffic.

[John_W]

There was a huge backup this morning going south on St. Charles approaching Buena Vista and those already on Buena Vista southbound and those westbound on 466A. Apparently at the construction site of the new Lowes shopping center, they were paving the new third, or turn lane, in front of the shopping center. Took 15 minutes to go about 200 yards. Instead of turning west on 466A, I just stayed on Buena Vista all the way to Brownwood and traffic was light. If they are putting the top coat on tomorrow, I would avoid going towards Wildwood or Winn Dixie in the morning, or take alternate routes such as Pinellas or go all the way down to 44 and forget going on 466A into Wildwood or the gold dome.

[Chatbrat]

Thanx John--took my wife 15 minutes to go thru the gate--she was late for a class @ MVP Brownwood

[NotGolfer]

Traffic on 446a going west this forenoon was long and slow---backed up to Sumter Grand. Traffic this time of year is dense anyway so allow time when going anywhere. So many new, hesitant drivers especially at the roundabouts.

[Boomer]

Looking @ the back trying to get thru the St.Charles gate, reminded me of the backups just before the BQE-

They should get a community watch person or a police officer to stop people from waving carts thru--Lt Siemer said its against the law.



It is the first day of the month in high-season. Lots of drivers new in town.

I remember our first visit to TV........

When a little golf cart seemed to want to cross in front of my big car, I would instinctively wave them across. OH MY! I received such helpful shouts and direction from those golf cart drivers! :22yikes:

[Fraugoofy]

Looking @ the back trying to get thru the St.Charles gate, reminded me of the backups just before the BQE-

They should get a community watch person or a police officer to stop people from waving carts thru--Lt Siemer said its against the law.
Very jealous. Would much rather sit in your traffic than drive in 6 inches of snow today! It's all a matter of perspective, my friend...Peace out...

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[jimmemac]

the last 2 weeks the traffic sucks!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, or worse yet, cities in foreign countries? We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.

[Fraugoofy]

Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, or worse yet, cities in foreign countries? We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.
Amen, bro.

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[jojo]

My 9 year old granddaughter was visiting from California. They live in Los Altos Hills - between San Francisco and San Jose. We were out and about in The Villages and she looked around puzzled, and said, "Where's the traffic?"

[rubicon]

Comparison are always drawn to make people feel better about something

But, I don't live in NYC or Chicago, or Los Angles.....I live here and here the traffic problem grows worse every year and is exacerbated because the tri-counties continues to grow faster than the infrastructure needed.

Apparently the traffic/driving situation must have some truth to it based on the various, and often repeated, threads concerning round abouts, MMP's etc.

[Chi-Town]

I was forced to drive in rush hour traffic while working. It was crazy. But now I can usually schedule my driving time avoiding the congested periods here in The Villages.

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[Polar Bear]

Comparison are always drawn to make people feel better about something

But, I don't live in NYC or Chicago, or Los Angles.....I live here and here the traffic problem grows worse every year and is exacerbated because the tri-counties continues to grow faster than the infrastructure needed.

Apparently the traffic/driving situation must have some truth to it based on the various, and often repeated, threads concerning round abouts, MMP's etc.
Nope. Sorry. Still no real traffic problem in TV. :)

Very few places in TV is the transportation infrastructure even close to being inadequate.

[golfing eagles]

Comparison are always drawn to make people feel better about something

But, I don't live in NYC or Chicago, or Los Angles.....I live here and here the traffic problem grows worse every year and is exacerbated because the tri-counties continues to grow faster than the infrastructure needed.

Apparently the traffic/driving situation must have some truth to it based on the various, and often repeated, threads concerning round abouts, MMP's etc.

I think those problems are less related to volume, and more related to the high lousy driver to total driver ratio in TV:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golf2140]

Looking @ the back trying to get thru the St.Charles gate, reminded me of the backups just before the BQE-

They should get a community watch person or a police officer to stop people from waving carts thru--Lt Siemer said its against the law.

You should contact Sumter County Sheriff's office, I'm sure if you ask they will assign a deputy to direct traffic !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sandtrap328]

A great number of Villagers are from N'Yawk and Beantown. And these are the folks complaining about an increase in traffic for a few months?

Compared to commuter traffic going in and out of Washington daily for 35 years, The Villages has NO traffic problem. :a040:

[Fraugoofy]

Comparison are always drawn to make people feel better about something

But, I don't live in NYC or Chicago, or Los Angles.....I live here and here the traffic problem grows worse every year and is exacerbated because the tri-counties continues to grow faster than the infrastructure needed.

Apparently the traffic/driving situation must have some truth to it based on the various, and often repeated, threads concerning round abouts, MMP's etc.
That or people just need something to complain about. Be happy people! You are still on the right side of the grass!

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[thelegges]

Other half is in MI with 60 degree one day then 19 and snow today. 7 mile commute yesterday took 43 minutes. Could have walked there faster. But it was:cold::cold:

[rubicon]

Nope. Sorry. Still no real traffic problem in TV. :)

Very few places in TV is the transportation infrastructure even close to being inadequate.

Hi Polar bear:

Yesterday I made the calculating decision of taking Morse at about 11:30 AM rather than two other possible routes to a golf shop to get some clubs re-griped

Repeat what you said to the 12-15 golf carts waiting in traffic to make a left to get off of Morse. Repeat what you said to the line of traffic waiting to exit Morse that extended almost down to the stop light and once passed the stop light another long line of traffic.

Try crossing or turning at Bailey Trail or Olmstead at the entrance of Lake Sumter or Colony or moving to the left turning lane at either Morse or 466 to get onto rolling Acres............................................. .........

I am not complaining. it is what it is I just acknowledge it. I lived in large cities. I drove in large traffic and I was use to it but large traffic lost its appeal. That was one nice thing that drew me here. it was nice while it lasted.

[Polar Bear]

Hi Polar bear:

Yesterday I made the calculating decision of taking Morse at about 11:30 AM rather than two other possible routes to a golf shop to get some clubs re-griped

Repeat what you said to the 12-15 golf carts waiting in traffic to make a left to get off of Morse. Repeat what you said to the line of traffic waiting to exit Morse that extended almost down to the stop light and once passed the stop light another long line of traffic.

Try crossing or turning at Bailey Trail or Olmstead at the entrance of Lake Sumter or Colony or moving to the left turning lane at either Morse or 466 to get onto rolling Acres...
Consider it repeated. Been there. Done that. (By the way...Hi, rubicon. :) )

I know there are occasional and localized PITA traffic situations out there. I drive rhem all as much as anybody. And I know it's a very subjective topic. But TV transportation issues are minor and seasonal, and I have little doubt the infrastructure will grow and improve as needed.

[justjim]

I don't see where letting a couple of golf carts thru hurts anything. You have to wait anyway for the two cars in front of you to get thru the gate. Sometimes I wonder........

[perrjojo]

Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, or worse yet, cities in foreign countries? We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.
Boy do I agree. I was raised in the DFW Metroplex with over 7,000,000 people and before moving here I lived in the Atlanta metro area with over 5,000,000 people. I guess heavy traffic is a matter of perception. I love TV and btw, it's not that hot here either. :jester:

[Marathon Man]

Boy do I agree. I was raised in the DFW Metroplex with over 7,000,000 people and before moving here I lived in the Atlanta metro area with over 5,000,000 people. I guess heavy traffic is a matter of perception. I love TV and btw, it's not that hot here either. :jester:

Yep. A matter of perception. I don't think the traffic here is all that bad either. Yes, a bit rough in the winter months, but a small price to pay. Plus, a little out-of-your-way navigating can help a lot. I'll take it over Atlanta any day - year round jams.

[Two Bills]

Look at it this way. Without the snowbird season, most restraunts and many shops would not survive the quite season.
So be happy, and thank the next snowbird you see for the great life and choice you have for the rest of the year! :p

[Chatbrat]

Lt. Siemmer said," Letting golf carts through is against the law"-you can be ticket for hindering traffic flow and you are not a traffic control officer"

[photo1902]

Lt. Siemmer said," Letting golf carts through is against the law"-you can be ticket for hindering traffic flow and you are not a traffic control officer"

So is speeding, rolling through stop signs, not using turn signals, etc. On the list of heinous violations, letting a cart cross is certainly not on the top of the list, especially since cars are normally stopped for cars in front of them anyways.

[Polar Bear]

So is speeding, rolling through stop signs, not using turn signals, etc...
You're right, they're all illegal...just like stopping to let golf carts cross when they don't have the right-of-way.

[golfing eagles]

You're right, they're all illegal...just like stopping to let golf carts cross when they don't have the right-of-way.

I wonder if anyone ever considered moving the exit gates back 50 feet, so the carts cross beyond BOTH the entry and exit gates. This would accomplish one of the goals of the gates, to allow cart traffic to cross more easily and safely, and eliminate the desire to wave carts across.

[Mrs. Robinson]

Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, or worse yet, cities in foreign countries? We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.


You are correct. The traffic here is nothing compared to a major city.
However, the difference is the way the roads and streets are designed and built.
Other cities do not have continual circles to navigate on the two main drags within a city.
They have stop/yield signs and traffic lights.
The traffic lights permit cars from side streets to access the main road when the main road light changes.

The roads outside the major parts of a city are built to accommodate heavy traffic.
Here we have two lane country bumpkin roads which are the equivalent of yesteryear's back road.
They have not kept up with the increased population.

One of these days the exterior roads will be widened,
but otherwise, we will just have to grit our teeth and feign a smile!

[rubicon]

Posters speak of perception but perception is reality. I believe for full time people the reality is that from about April to October the roads are less crowded but then BANG and lines are forming everywhere.

Whereas living in a big city you become accustom to the routine of traffic bottlenecks, etc because it is a way of life
and the fun part was "making your move" you play games like did I pick the right meter lane? Can I speed up on the right to get to the left faster? should I use a mannequin to cheat and get in the HOV lane

Naw just take the back road and back streets and avoided it all...wait 100,00- other drivers had the same idea.

[Chatbrat]

Just post signs-DO NOT DIRECT CART TRAFFIC--its against the law

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

You are correct. The traffic here is nothing compared to a major city.
However, the difference is the way the roads and streets are designed and built.
Other cities do not have continual circles to navigate on the two main drags within a city.
They have stop/yield signs and traffic lights.
The traffic lights permit cars from side streets to access the main road when the main road light changes.

The roads outside the major parts of a city are built to accommodate heavy traffic.
Here we have two lane country bumpkin roads which are the equivalent of yesteryear's back road.
They have not kept up with the increased population.

One of these days the exterior roads will be widened,
but otherwise, we will just have to grit our teeth and feign a smile!

What does any of that have to do with traffic? My understanding of the definition of traffic in this context is the number of cars on the road relative to the ability of the road to handle that many cars.

I just don't see waiting for five or six cars at a stop light as being heavy traffic.

At rush hour it can take an hour or more to go ten miles to get into a city. When I lived in Manila it once took me over an hour to go two miles.

Try going from Braintree, MA to downtown Boston at 7:00 am. It's about 12 miles and I would guess it would take 45 minutes to an hour.

Once you get into a major city there are thousands of cars and it's stop and go everywhere.

The round abouts in The Villages alleviate the traffic conditions. They allow traffic to flow more easily than stop signs. Think about what it would be if there were four way stops at every one of those intersections. People here don't understand the right of way laws as it is. We'd have people not going when they should and waving on people that don't have the right of way.


Give me round abouts and this light to moderate traffic and I'm fine.

[DonH57]

If it's not the traffic, it the lines at the grocery store. Until I moved here I've never seen people get so upset they had to wait behind 3 or 4 other people in line at the grocery store. Damn. I have to get back to the house and watch the grass grow.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

If it's not the traffic, it the lines at the grocery store. Until I moved here I've never seen people get so upset they had to wait behind 3 or 4 other people in line at the grocery store. Damn. I have to get back to the house and watch the grass grow.

I agree. Waiting for 3-5 or even five people at the supermarket is pretty normal in most places in the world.

As someone else said, I think that year round residents get spoiled over the summer.

[charmed59]

I do miss the self checkout lines in the supermarkets/Target from up north. I met one lovely lady at Winn Dixie that got in our line because she loved chatting with that particular checkout lady. Not the most efficient way to get through the market, but probably the friendliest.

[Marathon Man]

You are correct. The traffic here is nothing compared to a major city.
However, the difference is the way the roads and streets are designed and built.
Other cities do not have continual circles to navigate on the two main drags within a city.
They have stop/yield signs and traffic lights.
The traffic lights permit cars from side streets to access the main road when the main road light changes.

The roads outside the major parts of a city are built to accommodate heavy traffic.
Here we have two lane country bumpkin roads which are the equivalent of yesteryear's back road.
They have not kept up with the increased population.

One of these days the exterior roads will be widened,
but otherwise, we will just have to grit our teeth and feign a smile!

Round-abouts (aka traffic circles) are a proven method to aid the flow of traffic in all four directions. That is why they exist throughout Europe. And it is why they exist in this well planned community.

[Chatbrat]

Talking about check out out lines--people who insist on paying with checks in the express lines--IN NJ, Kings had a policy of cash or credit cards only,in express check out

[golfing eagles]

Talking about check out out lines--people who insist on paying with checks in the express lines--IN NJ, Kings had a policy of cash or credit cards only,in express check out

Same rules in NY---but it didn't stop some people from getting on the 15 item express line with 65 items, then whipping out a fistful of coupons, half of which were expired or not for items purchased, followed by an argument with the cashier. Then they whip out their food stamps, and pay the remaining $2.17 with a check for $102.17 to get cash back, followed by an argument over showing proper ID, then a manager call, then another argument, and sometimes and accusation of discrimination on whatever basis. Was once behind a woman who had only 12 items and paid with cash----a bag of change that she slowly counted out $42.37 in quarters, dimes, nickels, and pennies. Problem is that you cannot legislate common courtesy.

[Mrs. Robinson]

What does any of that have to do with traffic? My understanding of the definition of traffic in this context is the number of cars on the road relative to the ability of the road to handle that many cars.
I just don't see waiting for five or six cars at a stop light as being heavy traffic.
At rush hour it can take an hour or more to go ten miles to get into a city. When I lived in Manila it once took me over an hour to go two miles.
Try going from Braintree, MA to downtown Boston at 7:00 am. It's about 12 miles and I would guess it would take 45 minutes to an hour.
Once you get into a major city there are thousands of cars and it's stop and go everywhere.
The round abouts in The Villages alleviate the traffic conditions. They allow traffic to flow more easily than stop signs. Think about what it would be if there were four way stops at every one of those intersections. People here don't understand the right of way laws as it is. We'd have people not going when they should and waving on people that don't have the right of way.
Give me round abouts and this light to moderate traffic and I'm fine.

No one is talking about the actual definition of the word traffic. All comments have to do with traffic here.

The circles in TV do not alleviate traffic conditions; most people do not know how to navigate them, which is the real problem.

I never made mention to four-way stop signs. Our two main arteries of Morse and Buena Vista should be free flowing with only the three traffic lights which are currently in use. The stop signs I made reference to would be for egress from each village on to these two arteries. It would be no different that yielding as we currently (are supposed to) do.

[golfing eagles]

No one is talking about the actual definition of the word traffic. All comments have to do with traffic here.

The circles in TV do not alleviate traffic conditions; most people do not know how to navigate them, which is the real problem.

I never made mention to four-way stop signs. Our two main arteries of Morse and Buena Vista should be free flowing with only the three traffic lights which are currently in use. The stop signs I made reference to would be for egress from each village on to these two arteries. It would be no different that yielding as we currently (are supposed to) do.

Two applicable quotes:

"You can't fix stupid"----Judge Judy

"Momma always said stupid is as stupid does"---Forrest Gump

[dillywho]

Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, or worse yet, cities in foreign countries? We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.

You sound like my kids in Jacksonville. They laugh at me when I say something about our traffic. Of course, my son forgets about the non-traffic problems where he grew up...I haven't.

It's ok, we're retired so I don't care. I just leave a little earlier and if something holds me up and I'm late, so be it. The only complaint I really have is those people from the "big cities" that drive like they are still in the "big cities". SLOW DOWN!!

I remember the nail-biting ride this lil' ole country gal had in NYC. Being from a small town in comparison, Lubbock, TX, I had never experienced anything close to it! Interstates had not even come into full use (system created 1956) in 1960. The cab I was in went from the Idlewild Airport to the International Hotel. The guy put his hand on the horn and his foot in the carburetor and didn't let go of either one, weaving his way through traffic, until we slid to a stop at the hotel! :eek::pray:

[biker1]

"Most people do not know how to navigate" (the roundabouts) is an exaggeration. If this was true, you would expect a high rate of accidents and tie ups and that does not happen. It would, however, be accurate to say that most people do know how to navigate the roundabouts but people only remember the small number that have issues. It is easy to avoid issues - don't ever be adjacent to another car in the roundabouts.

No one is talking about the actual definition of the word traffic. All comments have to do with traffic here.

The circles in TV do not alleviate traffic conditions; most people do not know how to navigate them, which is the real problem.

I never made mention to four-way stop signs. Our two main arteries of Morse and Buena Vista should be free flowing with only the three traffic lights which are currently in use. The stop signs I made reference to would be for egress from each village on to these two arteries. It would be no different that yielding as we currently (are supposed to) do.

[Polar Bear]

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="4"]...The circles in TV do not alleviate traffic conditions; most people do not know how to navigate them, which is the real problem...
The roundabouts are far more efficient than signals or stop signs. And "most people do not know how to navigate them" is a gross exageration.

[rubicon]

Thank God for the round abouts or there would be bottle necks glore here

[VApeople]

Thank God for the round abouts or there would be bottle necks glore here

I completely agree with you. I don't find the roundabouts a problem at all.

[Jaggy]

I completely agree with you. I don't find the roundabouts a problem at all.

i just treat every other car in the roundabouts like they are toxic and give em an evil eye.
:22yikes:

[bbbbbb]

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, when Fenney gets occupied a lot those folks will come here to shop and to do the Doctors and the looking around,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, guess what you will see then?

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:pepper2:

[graciegirl]

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, when Fenney gets occupied a lot those folks will come here to shop and to do the Doctors and the looking around,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, guess what you will see then?

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:pepper2:

THAT argument again. If they build homes, then shopping will be built. It WILL. Supply and demand. Patience, Grasshopper (Bogie Shooter says that)

I think our roundabouts are BRILLIANT. Mrs. Robinson, study up. And Koo kook achoo.

AND to the folks on here who I just love, like, tolerate, except for two who I could bop, PLEASE drive carefully. I would like you to be alive and whole in ten more days when the traffic will become remarkably BETTER.

Sigh. Even those two.

[Challenger]

Thank God for the round abouts or there would be bottle necks glore here

Right on-- without them , traffic would be horrifically slow , especially "in season"

[Opmoochler]

You sound like my kids in Jacksonville. They laugh at me when I say something about our traffic. Of course, my son forgets about the non-traffic problems where he grew up...I haven't.

It's ok, we're retired so I don't care. I just leave a little earlier and if something holds me up and I'm late, so be it. The only complaint I really have is those people from the "big cities" that drive like they are still in the "big cities". SLOW DOWN!!

I remember the nail-biting ride this lil' ole country gal had in NYC. Being from a small town in comparison, Lubbock, TX, I had never experienced anything close to it! Interstates had not even come into full use (system created 1956) in 1960. The cab I was in went from the Idlewild Airport to the International Hotel. The guy put his hand on the horn and his foot in the carburetor and didn't let go of either one, weaving his way through traffic, until we slid to a stop at the hotel! :eek::pray:

I grew up in Manhattan and dodged taxis as a pedestrian until I went away to college. When I first drove a car to the city, the only thing that kept me sane was that I at least knew where I was going, as I prayed I wouldn't be killed by a taxi. My driving goal was to become as assertive and adept as a NYC cabbie. One day, my mom gave me the unsolicited accolade, "You drive just like a NYC taxi driver!" So, the crazy people in the roundabouts don't scare me at all; I just assume they're out to get me!

[graciegirl]

I grew up in Manhattan and dodged taxis as a pedestrian until I went away to college. When I first drove a car to the city, the only thing that kept me sane was that I at least knew where I was going, as I prayed I wouldn't be killed by a taxi. My driving goal was to become as assertive and adept as a NYC cabbie. One day, my mom gave me the unsolicited accolade, "You drive just like a NYC taxi driver!" So, the crazy people in the roundabouts don't scare me at all; I just assume they're out to get me!

OMIGOSH. Is that YOU?????

[golfing eagles]

OMIGOSH. Is that YOU?????

I think it is. While most people post "SLOW DOWN", Olie would like the rest of us to "SPEED UP" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Chatbrat]

Keep everyone behind you and you will be safe

[ColdNoMore]

I grew up in Manhattan and dodged taxis as a pedestrian until I went away to college. When I first drove a car to the city, the only thing that kept me sane was that I at least knew where I was going, as I prayed I wouldn't be killed by a taxi. My driving goal was to become as assertive and adept as a NYC cabbie. One day, my mom gave me the unsolicited accolade, "You drive just like a NYC taxi driver!" So, the crazy people in the roundabouts don't scare me at all; I just assume they're out to get me!

The very first time I drove in The City (early 80's), it dawned on me that there were only two rules.

1. ME FIRST.

2. Whatever it takes for...ME FIRST.

Once I made up my mind that I wouldn't make the week without at least one fender bender and that the speeds are relatively low, so personal injury was not a big concern...I started following the two rules. :D

I have now driven in The City probably two dozens times and have yet (fingers crossed)...to even get a door ding. :shrug:

[The Chipster]

Our boo hoo, you had to wait maybe 60 seconds? Try Atlanta traffic sometime at rush hour and you will have a big smile on your face at your village entrance.

[Brucieboy]

What is the number of the statute or traffic code making waving carts through against the law?

[Chatbrat]

316.2045--is the statute

[Reiver]

The law never defines who has the right of way, only who MUST yield.

Florida Drivers Handbook - Right of Way (http://www.123driving.com/flhandbook/flhb-right-of-way.shtml)

[EPutnam1863]

Traffic is one reason why we gave up living in Florida and moved back to the north where we live on three acres with no neighbors and only one traffic light between our property and town.

[RickeyD]

Traffic is one reason why we gave up living in Florida and moved back to the north where we live on three acres with no neighbors and only one traffic light between our property and town.



So, why would you be on here torturing yourself ?

[Chatbrat]

Its not just right of way, unless you are a law enforcement officer, you can not control traffic flow

[Shimpy]

---but it didn't stop some people from getting on the 15 item express line with 65 items, then whipping out a fistful of coupons, half of which were expired or not for items purchased, followed by an argument with the cashier. Then they whip out their food stamps, and pay the remaining $2.17 with a check for $102.17 to get cash back, followed by an argument over showing proper ID, then a manager call, then another argument, and sometimes and accusation of discrimination on whatever basis. Was once behind a woman who had only 12 items and paid with cash----a bag of change that she slowly counted out $42.37 in quarters, dimes, nickels, and pennies.
Sounds like the line I always get in because it was "shorter"

[Laker14]

316.2045--is the statute

i thought that was pi.

[Shimpy]

Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.

Try driving on I95 in Miami during rush hour. They, a while back had a police chase that lasted for 30 miles and reached speeds up to 14 mph.

[champion6]

What is the number of the statute or traffic code making waving carts through against the law?And another source -- The VHA Voice, February 2017

VHA General Meeting Questions & Answers
Question 10: Is it a traffic violation for people driving in a thoroughfare to stop and wave through vehicles at a stop sign? This is a frequent occurrence at the Bailey Trail gate entering and exiting Sunset Pointe and with drivers coming off the Morse Blvd. bridge into Lake Sumter Landing. Trying to be courteous, drivers often stop oncoming traffic to wave on golf carts, causing traffic backups.
Lt. Siemer: Yes, this is a traffic violation when a driver interrupts the flow of traffic. The driver can be stopped and given a traffic ticket.