How Do You Approach This ?

[Judicialwatcher]

What should or can TV management do about problem children (adults that never grew up) causing problems in TV? When their kids are on their last leg and they have burned all their bridges in their hometown, Mom and Dad tell them to come to TV and parasite off them while they get their life together. Then they start causing trouble here. My solution is to have TV management go visit the homeowners and lay down the law. Legally, there is not much that can be done, but putting a homeowner on the radar and turning up the heat is a start.
Any ideas?

[blueeagle65]

I seriously doubt if TV management cares or has the power to contact these people. I'm sure that if they are causing problems that the local LE entity would contact the problem residents and put them on notice.

[Barefoot]

What should or can TV management do about problem children (adults that never grew up) causing problems in TV? When their kids are on their last leg and they have burned all their bridges in their hometown, Mom and Dad tell them to come to TV and parasite off them while they get their life together. Then they start causing trouble here. My solution is to have TV management go visit the homeowners and lay down the law. Legally, there is not much that can be done, but putting a homeowner on the radar and turning up the heat is a start.
I'm curious, what law would The Villages management be laying down?
It's my understanding that children over the age of 19 are welcome to live with their parents.
I'm not defending the kids that get in trouble with the law, I don't like it either.
But unfortunately we usually hear about the misfits, not about the "good" kids.
Many children offer unconditional love and support to their aging parents.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Florida is one of the states that allows banishment as a sentence for criminal offences. Now we just need to get some judges to use the tool.

[graciegirl]

What should or can TV management do about problem children (adults that never grew up) causing problems in TV? When their kids are on their last leg and they have burned all their bridges in their hometown, Mom and Dad tell them to come to TV and parasite off them while they get their life together. Then they start causing trouble here. My solution is to have TV management go visit the homeowners and lay down the law. Legally, there is not much that can be done, but putting a homeowner on the radar and turning up the heat is a start.
Any ideas?

Sugar. you can watch the judicial 'til the cows come home but the rules for THIS planned community and the deed restrictions only cover children under 19. They can't stay in your home for more than thirty days in a year or you will be fined. Kids older than that, even nasty, lazy, and law breaking kids may stay with their folks, even if some folks aren't happy about it. BUT as Barefoot pointed out, there are many, MANY, nice children who are good citizens and enjoy living here with us older people.

You can't "lay down the law", there is no law....and I am not sure how anybody can "put the homeowner on the radar, and turn up the heat" as you suggest. This is a CDD, we don't vote.

It is what it is. And it is better than wonderful here.

[Reiver]

More info:
I am on the B.O.D. of a large HOA community here in Virginia and I come back to TV every year for a month as a renter.
The message here is to participate in your community. Before visiting TOTV I thought TV was some kind of place where nothing bad ever happened.
From what I have read in the Sun, people here need to get on board to enforce regulations especially residents that have their no good children or grandchildren move in with them and cause trouble here. We have crime where I live also and those who are caught are always from the outside of our community. Get involved !
From the thread: Helpful advice and warnings for brand new Villagers. (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1363537)

[thelegges]

So you don't live here, and you :shrug:want management to change things?

[kcrazorbackfan]

I'm curious, what law would The Villages management be laying down?
It's my understanding that children over the age of 19 are welcome to live with their parents.
I'm not defending the kids that get in trouble with the law, I don't like it either.
But unfortunately we usually hear about the misfits, not about the "good" kids.
Many children offer unconditional love and support to their aging parents.

I really don't think that the kids shown in the pics for the criminal acts they are committing are the type to offer unconditional love and support to their aging parents.

[Sandtrap328]

Villagers, put away your torches and pitchforks. These offspring over the age of 18 are allowed to be here as much as you and me.

You can always find a community that has a stricter age limit and that is entirely your choice.

Don't let the gate hit you on the way out.

[Polar Bear]

Wrong on all counts as usual. It's 19....
Yep, off by one year, but absolutely correct on all other counts.

Criminals of all ages should be held accountable. But saying all those young ones are troublemakers and all us old fogies are totally innocent...THAT is wrong on all counts.

[affald]

Yep, off by one year, but absolutely correct on all other counts.

Criminals of all ages should be held accountable. But saying all those young ones are troublemakers and all us old fogies are totally innocent...THAT is wrong on all counts.
Who is saying old criminals should not be held accountable?

The villages is great because of law and order. Drop the dime on any criminal activity.

[Taltarzac725]

Sugar. you can watch the judicial 'til the cows come home but the rules for THIS planned community and the deed restrictions only cover children under 19. They can't stay in your home for more than thirty days in a year or you will be fined. Kids older than that, even nasty, lazy, and law breaking kids may stay with their folks, even if some folks aren't happy about it. BUT as Barefoot pointed out, there are many, MANY, nice children who are good citizens and enjoy living here with us older people.

You can't "lay down the law", there is no law....and I am not sure how anybody can "put the homeowner on the radar, and turn up the heat" as you suggest. This is a CDD, we don't vote.

It is what it is. And it is better than wonderful here.

Well said, Graciegirl. Being one of those adult kids caring for parents and having met a number of my fellow caretakers living at home, thank you for sticking up for us. There are some adults who are problems for other Villagers but these come in many ages, sexes, races, and religions.

[skip0358]

And you can push this as far as you want BUT if the courts release them them once again they're right back here again. Old or young they're being released and coming back home and you can't stop them. Soon after they're back they'll be in trouble again . There courts are the problem and we suffer for it. That's who you have to correct.

[Reiver]

"The Villages does not allow full-time residents under age 19."
This is exactly the same as saying that people over the age of 18 are allowed.
The same gate is smacking everyone, it seems.

[blueash]

Wrong on all counts as usual. It's 19.

Let's see what the poster said that resulted in your "correction"

offspring over the age of 18 are allowed to be here

And what is the rule? 18 year olds are not allowed to permanently reside here while 19 year olds are. Seems to me that "over the age of 18" means 19 is ok and 18 is not. So why did you attack the post unless you believe it should have said "over age 19"? I am confused. Or you misread or misunderstood the math in the post you attacked.

Seems I was posting at the same time as Reiver

[Fred R]

I'm not keeping any numbers for documentation, but it does seem like much of the crime in TV seem to be committed by adult looser children of folks who live here. Not all by any means, but a lot.

[affald]

I'm not keeping any numbers for documentation, but it does seem like much of the crime in TV seem to be committed by adult loser children of folks who live here. Not all by any means, but a lot.
Absolutely! So correct, a very disproportionate amount. Neighbors know who the losers are. Very often they have a long criminal record.

Btw, Some of it is committed by those OVER 18 but not yet 19, living here illegally...... just saying. ;) lol

[Polar Bear]

Honest question...where are you hearing of all this crime by age 19+ residents of TV? Some published statistics? Where is this information being obtained?

[Carla B]

You hear about it when the "Daily Sun" reports that a Villager, over age 18 and under age 55, was cited for a crime, and you put two and two together. Sometimes the miscreant is so young that he's probably living his grandmother. I doubt the "Daily Sun" keeps statistics.

[graciegirl]

I know of MANY good, law abiding, productive young people who live here. However society in general has a lot of young people living with parents and they might have drug addiction, or over protective parents who didn't take that course on fanny kicking required to make folks independent.

It is hard not to jump to conclusions when the mugshots anywhere show a ..........trend. I think that is common sense to see that there is a problem with many young people working and living independently and staying inside the law these days.

I watch Judge Judy. (Better than a graduate degree in Sociology)

[Barefoot]

You hear about it when the "Daily Sun" reports that a Villager, over age 18 and under age 55, was cited for a crime, and you put two and two together.

In this case, two and two may equal five.
Unfortunately. we almost always hear about the miscreants who get reported for a crime and end up in the news.
These kids live with overprotective parents who don't practice tough love.
I agree, there is no way the miscreants should be living in The Villages.

We don't hear about the many good kids living with their parents. Don't tar all children living with parents with the same brush.
I don't know any of the miscreants, but there are lots of good children, minding their own business,
living with parents in The Villages.
I personally know three grown children who each live with their parents for very good reasons.
Each of the three grown children is very reputable, loving and responsible.

[Marathon Man]

What should or can TV management do about problem children (adults that never grew up) causing problems in TV? When their kids are on their last leg and they have burned all their bridges in their hometown, Mom and Dad tell them to come to TV and parasite off them while they get their life together. Then they start causing trouble here. My solution is to have TV management go visit the homeowners and lay down the law. Legally, there is not much that can be done, but putting a homeowner on the radar and turning up the heat is a start.
Any ideas?

I find that suggestion disturbing. Harass and intimidate, really?

[Polar Bear]

I find that suggestion disturbing. Harass and intimidate, really?
Agree. Especially for a "problem" that appears to be a very few isolated incidents. That's what law enforcement is for.

[Wavy Chips]

What should or can TV management do about problem children (adults that never grew up) causing problems in TV? When their kids are on their last leg and they have burned all their bridges in their hometown, Mom and Dad tell them to come to TV and parasite off them while they get their life together. Then they start causing trouble here. My solution is to have TV management go visit the homeowners and lay down the law. Legally, there is not much that can be done, but putting a homeowner on the radar and turning up the heat is a start.
Any ideas?


Easy fix. Just get 30 other like minded people that have been victimized like yourself. Next, contact an out of state legal firm that specializes in this type of law. Now file a class action law suit . . . :22yikes:

[CFrance]

I'm not keeping any numbers for documentation, but it does seem like much of the crime in TV seem to be committed by adult looser children of folks who live here. Not all by any means, but a lot.

Absolutely! So correct, a very disproportionate amount. Neighbors know who the losers are. Very often they have a long criminal record.

Btw, Some of it is committed by those OVER 18 but not yet 19, living here illegally...... just saying. ;) lol
Got any facts to support those statements?

[affald]

Got any facts to support those statements?
http://www.**************.com/villagers-18-year-old-nephew-arrested-after-altercation-over-damage-to-golf-cart/

As you know ***=Villages dash news

I know of one other personally I just found out about pm if you want the name and address if you are willing to do the reporting.

I am sure there are many others.

[CFrance]

http://www.**************.com/villagers-18-year-old-nephew-arrested-after-altercation-over-damage-to-golf-cart/

As you know ***=Villages dash news

I know of one other personally I just found out about pm if you want the name and address if you are willing to do the reporting.

I am sure there are many others.
I wasn't meaning individual instances. I am interested in facts to support the statement that more crime is committed by people under a certain age than older.

[affald]

I wasn't meaning individual instances. I am interested in facts to support the statement that more crime is committed by people under a certain age than older.
No one said more, it's disproportionate. .... And that is obvious to anyone that reads.

[TheDude]

Let the police do their job.

Again, and I say this offend, don't throw rocks if your closet is glass.