Did Obama step out of bounds as POTUS when

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he made his comments regarding "his friend Gates" and call the Cambtidge Police "stupid"?

In my opinion there is no way a local incident needs to be glorifies and raised to a national level by a sitting POTUS.

On national television to boot. Once again showing his true colors (no pun intended) regarding his inability to rise above what would normally be a trivial incident....ONCE ALL THE FACT ARE KNOWN. Enough has already been quoted by neighbors (also black if it adds validity of any sort) that it was Gates' mouth that got him into the predicament. That of course was not taken into account in the media.

Obama said and I am paraphrasing....while racial progress has been made blacks/latinos are still singled out and unfairly arrested....."this still haunts us..."

Without knowing the facts of the case he plays the race card. He certainly knows that blacks and lations make up the majority (in excess of 80%) of the criminal element. That shall we say SHOULD influence approach...eh. Add to that the alleged mouthiness and refusal by Gates to show ID....what would an intelligent conclusion be....no answer it is rhetorical!

So another question; is the POTUS still campaigning (for the black vote)?

He stepped out of bounds telegraphing an inability to prioritize at the level of POTUS. Such a tactical error did not do much to help his rating slide by doing so. Where were all his lofty advisers on that blooper? Also rhetorical.

Some things apparently cannot be untrained.

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Quite the coincidence, as I am listening to a Boston talk show on the radio this very minute. The consensus...Gates was itching for a fight. He even admits he has never been discriminated against in his 58 years.
The police have refused to apologize as they followed proper procedures.
That being said, The press asked a prepared question and Obama answered with a prepared answer. For Obama to say to the Nation that the police were racists...is a disgrace to the office.
I have lost what little respect I have had for this president...to say such racists remarks about a police department that was only doing it's job. To use that office for a bully pulpit is shameful.

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I don't think he should have commented about the incident at all as he was not a witness to the event---certainly should not have called the police "stupid." I cringed when I heard him utter those words.

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I don't think he should have commented about the incident at all as he was not a witness to the event---certainly should not have called the police "stupid." I cringed when I heard him utter those words.

Me too, that's what happens when you stray from the script. Of course the WH tried to justify the remarks.

Imagine being a cop and having to deal with elitist vermin like Gates, who think that neither laws nor the rules of common courtesy apply to them because they are "oppressed" and therefore higher beings. All he had to do was show some ID like everybody else does.

Also, I think his house was broken into in the past.

Edit: Polls taken in Boston say that Gates should apologize to the Cambridge Police. Ya, right....I doubt you will see that.

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Sharpton and Jesse Jackson will be grandstanding there shortly.... they can't miss this photo-op.

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Obama was colossally wrong to prejudge and indict the Cambridge Police without hearing the facts from both sides. I heard the Sergeant's entire report on radio this afternoon and it is articulate, plausible and credible. I saw a video of him declining to apologize. He seemed intelligent, even tempered, articulate and a man of some conviction and principle. I would like to hear the professor's version. There is also a neighbor of the professor that said he appeared belligerent. I would like to hear the professor's account of the events.

I am saddened that my president continues to apply the race card as a foundation for accusations of alleged police abuse.

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Obama was colossally wrong to prejudge and indict the Cambridge Police without hearing the facts from both sides. I heard the Sergeant's entire report on radio this afternoon and it is articulate, plausible and credible. I saw a video of him declining to apologize. He seemed intelligent, even tempered, articulate and a man of some conviction and principle. I would like to hear the professor's version. There is also a neighbor of the professor that said he appeared belligerent. I would like to hear the professor's account of the events.

I am saddened that my president continues to apply the race card as a foundation for accusations of alleged police abuse.

Well,I can tell you with authority, that many Bostonian' s will not be voting for the First Teleprompter in 2012.

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Obama was colossally wrong to prejudge and indict the Cambridge Police without hearing the facts from both sides. I heard the Sergeant's entire report on radio this afternoon and it is articulate, plausible and credible. I saw a video of him declining to apologize. He seemed intelligent, even tempered, articulate and a man of some conviction and principle. I would like to hear the professor's version. There is also a neighbor of the professor that said he appeared belligerent. I would like to hear the professor's account of the events.

I am saddened that my president continues to apply the race card as a foundation for accusations of alleged police abuse.


Every once in awhile, President Obama will have a lax moment and if you listen you will hear his true agenda based on years of training, and training ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY in one idealogy.

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I believe Obama went a long way in fueling the racist fire by commenting at all about the Gates affair and shame on him for commenting at all without having all the facts. His responsibility is to unite our nation, not tear it apart.

He really ought to stick with his prepared script. "Stupid" He owes that police department an apology. He could have tailored his response a little differently. His response to that question could have been more Presidential.

He certainly did not win any points for his healthcare plan last night, and I think someone ought to take a poll to see how far his ratings slipped after his speech.

He must have had one hell of fight with Michele before 8:00PM last night.

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by playing the race card....and with about as much thought and integrity as they do not!!!!
And to make it worse to try to sell the listener he tried to ask how would you feel if this happened to you in your home.
If you or I got caught trying to break into our own home in the evening and the police came upon us and if we gave them a rash of :cus: raising :cus: and being un cooperative we would no doubt be handled in the same manner. We just wouldn't have a racial supporter like the POTUS to "stupidly" spill it over a national news broadcast.
Now some other black politicians are siding with Obama and the professor stating they might have said or done worse if it were them.

The most significant detriment the blacks have going against them about so call racism and racial profiling is the blacks themselves.

For Obama and others like him it is an abuse of position a white person COULD NOT get away with in today's environment.

Talk about stupid!:eclipsee_gold_cup:

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You know I am reading the posts here and everything seems to be going racists president or not we got to stop this crap about the old traditional racism you want to be racist try the illegals that come into the country that is where a large part of the deficit is. We think we are trying to stop but it wont happen its out of hand just go ahead and make them legal get the tax revenue so I can retire next ear. Yes that is just what anyone really cares about, themselves. But you know that is what is wrong with this country right now, my agenda not what is good for the country. The health plan that Obama is proposing is going to cost the next ten generations billions but who is it going to benifit not me or you. The more you let the governing bodies control your world the less freedom ,if you say you have. I saw a T shirt that said A government that can give you everything can take it away and God help us that is where it is going. I have known people that told me to go to h--- and you know I thought it sounded like a good idea. And that is where we are going if we dont do something. When it comes to racism my father told me back in the 50s that some day there would be a brown race but we will always find something wrong with the other person. We need to be for our fellow human but lets do it the legal way. Some folks say close the borders but China did that for 100 years and look where it got them.Dont close down just push the legal side. Well enough of this I'm done this is just one opinion and thats just what it is.

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POTUS takes side of his friend without facts or class.

Nothing new here.

Yoda

A member of the local opposition

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POTUS takes side of his friend without facts or class.

Nothing new here.

Yoda

A member of the local opposition
It just goes to show that becoming President doesn't make one immune from foot-in-mouth disease. In fact, when it comes to matter of race, his bigotry is becoming self-evident.

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his race stance is not "becoming" evident. It was there screaming loudly in capital letters in his and Michelle's activities on the subject.
They have both become so smoke headed about their new positions in life that they let their true feelings escape.

As the old saying goes one can rearrange the spots on a leopard but wen you get all done you still have a leopard.

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It just goes to show that becoming President doesn't make one immune from foot-in-mouth disease. In fact, when it comes to matter of race, his bigotry is becoming self-evident.

It is not politically correct to say this but he has always had an agenda that has roots in this area....read his past to see all about that !!!

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It just goes to show that becoming President doesn't make one immune from foot-in-mouth disease. In fact, when it comes to matter of race, his bigotry is becoming self-evident.

With two wars and a faltering health care reform effort, maybe President Stupidly should not be bloviating about local police matters, especially when he does not have the facts.
I have read the police report 3 times and it looks to me like Gates was grandstanding. It happened at 1:00 in the afternoon and a crowd was forming on the sidewalk. Also, the phrase that Gates used when asked to step outside, "Ya with your mama" (paraphrased) was very telling of his "educated" demure.
Now imagine that a friend of President Bush was arrested in Texas by a black policeman and his friend said the same things that Gates said. Imagine if Bush said the same things that Obama said. Stupidly would only be one of the nicer words the mainstream media would be calling Bush.

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With two wars and a faltering health care reform effort, maybe President Stupidly should not be bloviating about local police matters, especially when he does not have the facts.
I have read the police report 3 times and it looks to me like Gates was grandstanding. It happened at 1:00 in the afternoon and a crowd was forming on the sidewalk. Also, the phrase that Gates used when asked to step outside, "Ya with your mama" (paraphrased) was very telling of his "educated" demure.
Now imagine that a friend of President Bush was arrested in Texas by a black policeman and his friend said the same things that Gates said. Imagine if Bush said the same things that Obama said. Stupidly would only be one of the nicer words the mainstream media would be calling Bush.


I very seldom post things I get in email but this one seems to very apropos to this discussion !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfrR5lAxXV0

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With two wars and a faltering health care reform effort, maybe President Stupidly should not be bloviating about local police matters, especially when he does not have the facts.
I have read the police report 3 times and it looks to me like Gates was grandstanding. It happened at 1:00 in the afternoon and a crowd was forming on the sidewalk. Also, the phrase that Gates used when asked to step outside, "Ya with your mama" (paraphrased) was very telling of his "educated" demure.
Now imagine that a friend of President Bush was arrested in Texas by a black policeman and his friend said the same things that Gates said. Imagine if Bush said the same things that Obama said. Stupidly would only be one of the nicer words the mainstream media would be calling Bush.

By his own actions Obama clearly showed who is STUPID. I wish there was a tape somewhere that realy showed what happened. Perhaps Gates should be charged. :beer3::beer3:

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I very seldom post things I get in email but this one seems to very apropos to this discussion !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfrR5lAxXV0

This is exactly what I hear from people that I know, who aren't afraid to speek their mind on the subject.

I've worked around children for 20 years and I can't tell you how many times that I've heard "your just prejudice" as an excuse for whatever circumstance that arises. I agree, stop feeling guilty or let someone make you feel guilty for something that isn't real. Buy the same token, don't prejudge people, or use race as a reason to slant you viewpoint on a particular situation.

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:agree:I am very disappointed in the POTUS and we all seem to agree

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:agree:I am very disappointed in the POTUS and we all seem to agree

As my daddy used to say, "I know all I need to know about that fella."

Yoda

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http://patterico.com/2009/07/24/the-officer-didnt-stereotype-henry-louis-gates-henry-louis-gates-stereotyped-the-officer/

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The President's rope is unraveling.

He has embarassed himself. He has surpassed Joe Biden for inappropriate comments.

What to do?---> Go to the Cape on a luxury vacation.

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The President's rope is unraveling.

He has embarassed himself. He has surpassed Joe Biden for inappropriate comments.

What to do?---> Go to the Cape on a luxury vacation.
The smart move would have been to swallow a little pride, make a trip to Cambridge to meet with the officer at his place of employment, shake his hand in public, have a peaceful cup of coffee with the officer for ten-fifteen minutes, and go on his way.

The showing-of-support by his brother officers - from LEOS of all ethnic backgrounds in a very 'blue' city and state - indicated a major faux pas had indeed been committed by the President. His standing within the law enforcement community took a major whack.

What is even worse is that an exploitable weakness has now been made evident to those around the world who seek to put him and the nation into a negative position. As much as President Bush was portrayed as a "cowboy," President Obama has left himself wide-open to be displayed as a 21-century "Black Panther." As much as this incident being a domestic embarrassment, it also can have negative effects on foreign relations.

Like it or not, the job of POTUS puts one (intentionally) on public display at all times. As journalistic technology increases, so does the scope of public display.

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Now as I am reading this story......the professor who claimed loud and clear that he was the victim of racial profiling will now meet with the President and the policeman and hopes to use this as a lesson on racial profiling.

The policeman and all others involved said it was not racial profiling in any way shape or form.

The President called the policeman and invited him to the WH along with the professor.

Great example of taking a story that was negative and turning it into a positive.....I am very disappointed in the police who said loud and clear that there was NO racial profiling to be used like this.

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Several questions come to mind.
Is it incriminating to the police?
Is it incriminating to the professor?
Maybe a little of both?
Possible embarassment to either? both?

IMHO the police were the only ones doing their job....the professor without a doubt hopped up on his elitist black horse.....and the POTUS like Jackson and Sharp took the only position viable to them and that was the race card.

On the job training continues to take it's toll.

btk

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Not to worry about all of this. In a week or so it will be old news and there will be other things in the news. At election time in 2010 and 2012 it will resurface eventually.

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Several questions come to mind.
Is it incriminating to the police?
Is it incriminating to the professor?
Maybe a little of both?
Possible embarassment to either? both?

IMHO the police were the only ones doing their job....the professor without a doubt hopped up on his elitist black horse.....and the POTUS like Jackson and Sharp took the only position viable to them and that was the race card.

On the job training continues to take it's toll.

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I agree....."IMHO the police were the only ones doing their job"

BUT

This incident according to the professor and the President will be used as a learning tool on racial profiling, when we have been told by the police that there was NO racial profiling.....dissapointing if true that they would allow themselves to be used !!!

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I hope that this is a wake up call to the American people. Obama has a hidden agenda and it's not for the hard working Americans. He is hell bent on bring our country to it's knee's. He backed his old friend, just as they do in Chicago politics.

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My signature quote saids it all ...thanks Mr. Lincoln

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The President's rope is unraveling.

He has embarassed himself. He has surpassed Joe Biden for inappropriate comments.

What to do?---> Go to the Cape on a luxury vacation.


Some times you just have to chuckle....

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Some times you just have to chuckle....
Only when it's funny...

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Some times you just have to chuckle....


What, may I ask, is in any way humorous ??

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Some times you just have to chuckle....

I'm glad cologal seems to think this is funny. I, personally, am appalled and embarrassed by the non-professional public comments the POTUS made concerning a local incident that he had no business even commenting on and obviously knew nothing about. And then, to try to smooth things over by inviting the concerned parties for a group hug and beers at the Whitehouse... C'MON!!! What in the world is this man doing in the Oval Office???

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I'm glad cologal seems to think this is funny. I, personally, am appalled and embarrassed by the non-professional public comments the POTUS made concerning a local incident that he had no business even commenting on and obviously knew nothing about. And then, to try to smooth things over by inviting the concerned parties for a group hug and beers at the Whitehouse... C'MON!!! What in the world is this man doing in the Oval Office???
I must be getting old....

To me, you don't try to right a wrong by saying to the person wronged, "if you take a day off, go through the expense and aggravation to come to DC, go through all the security checks, I'll let you into my house into one of the conference rooms for a few minutes for a photo op. and that will make things better." That again is arrogance and self-importance.

I was raised to believe that if you made a mistake, the effort, expense and inconvenience was to be by you to right the wrong. That's how men act.

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I must be getting old....

To me, you don't try to right a wrong by saying to the person wronged, "if you take a day off, go through the expense and aggravation to come to DC, go through all the security checks, I'll let you into my house into one of the conference rooms for a few minutes for a photo op. and that will make things better." That again is arrogance and self-importance.

I was raised to believe that if you made a mistake, the effort, expense and inconvenience was to be by you to right the wrong. That's how men act.


The POTUS is using this for political reasons !

The police officials have said that there was NO..NONE....anything to do with race, YET...

The President and the Professor continue to make a connection to race in every single statement !

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I must be getting old....

To me, you don't try to right a wrong by saying to the person wronged, "if you take a day off, go through the expense and aggravation to come to DC, go through all the security checks, I'll let you into my house into one of the conference rooms for a few minutes for a photo op. and that will make things better." That again is arrogance and self-importance.

I was raised to believe that if you made a mistake, the effort, expense and inconvenience was to be by you to right the wrong. That's how men act.

Exactly how I feel. Just by judging this man by his actions and deeds...he leaves alot to be desired. He never admits wrong, he lies, he doesn't really like America and apologizes for her, he is arrogant and self-important. He cannot even bring himself to admit truths. He would not admit that the surge worked in Iraq yet he is implementing it in Afghanistan?
I personally think he is just a terrible leader.

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his whiz kids when he throws out a bone like ....hey guys c'mon on over and let's have a beer...how lame is that? How much more non POTUS can one get than that?

I believe we are witnessing testimony to why the man relies so heavily on a teleprompter and notes...his off the cuff thinking is very one dimensional and shallow...and in knee jerk responses his true beliefs and positions come tripping out...demonstrating a lack of understanding of the true stature and demeanor the position of POTUS requires...a true lack of real executive polish.

So blatant even his media following could do little to make it appear other than what it was...a stupid racist comment.

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I think he was prepared to speak about his healthcare plan at the press conference. This question caught him off guard and he had no prepared response or teleprompter queued up to tell him what to say. He should have said nothing except that it is a local matter and below his pay grade.

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Today Gates indicated he may use this to make a movie or documentary about racial profiling...! Says it will be a "learning experience". Is he nuts? The police were responding to a 911 call be a neighbor. How in the world can Gates consider that racial profiling??? I would have liked to see the police officer respond to Obama's offer to bury the hatchet over a beer be, "No thank you Mr President, I have more important things to attend to... and I am sure you do too."

Boy, I can't wait to see how this plays out in the next election.

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"The president of the United States may be reluctant to condemn Ayatollah Khamenei or Hugo Chávez or that guy in Honduras without examining all the nuances and footnotes, but sometimes there are outrages so heinous that even the famously nuanced must step up to the plate and speak truth to power. And thank God the leader of the free world had the guts to stand up and speak truth to municipal police sergeant James Crowley".

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWU3NWRmYzY5MmZjOTZjN2NiYTMwOGI3ZTBiZDA5ZjM=

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Today Gates indicated he may use this to make a movie or documentary about racial profiling...! Says it will be a "learning experience". Is he nuts? The police were responding to a 911 call be a neighbor. How in the world can Gates consider that racial profiling??? I would have liked to see the police officer respond to Obama's offer to bury the hatchet over a beer be, "No thank you Mr President, I have more important things to attend to... and I am sure you do too."

Boy, I can't wait to see how this plays out in the next election.

:agree: :beer3:
The joke starts like this,The President, a Harvard Professor and a Cambridge Police Sargent walk into a bar......:jester:

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Today Gates indicated he may use this to make a movie or documentary about racial profiling...! Says it will be a "learning experience". Is he nuts? The police were responding to a 911 call be a neighbor. How in the world can Gates consider that racial profiling??? I would have liked to see the police officer respond to Obama's offer to bury the hatchet over a beer be, "No thank you Mr President, I have more important things to attend to... and I am sure you do too."

Boy, I can't wait to see how this plays out in the next election.

Yes this will come up in the next elections in '10 and/or '12. My guess is the issue will go away soon as a news item and join the ranks of verbal gaffs by other presidents (Clinton, Bush, Obama etc.).

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According to the Fox News Sunday show today, the press conference question about this incident was anticipated by the administration and the answer was rehearsed. What should have happened next was an apology from the president, but it seems he is only interested in apologizing to other countries for acts and omissions of the Bush Administration. In fact, Brett Hume said that this president "is arrogant". In my opinion, and I read the actual arrest report on "The Smoking Gun", the cop was reacting to a jerk acting like a jerk. Most of us learned many years ago to act overly respectful to a police officer - obviously this supposed "smart" Harvard professor never learned the basics and ran off at the mouth. The apologies need to start with the professor to the cop; then Obama to the nation. But neither is going to happen . . . .

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Yes this will come up in the next elections in '10 and/or '12. My guess is the issue will go away soon as a news item and join the ranks of verbal gaffs by other presidents (Clinton, Bush, Obama etc.).

The horse is already left the gate.

Pres. Obama showed himself as ready to make decisions and judgments based solely on very limited (if any) facts and with personal bias. That's not what executives do, as successful executives know that Rule #1 is "make sure brain is in gear before mouth is in motion."

He's got a lot of damage control to do among those who are not bound heart-and-soul with any political party. At this moment, he has shown himself as the typical Senator who has not had any heavy executive or managerial experience - a talker first.

Can this be reverse? Sure it can. But that takes an attitude devoid of arrogance and self-importance.

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I was just reading the New York Times and saw this quote from Mike Barnacle:

"The next time Gates needs 911, he should call the Harvard faculty lounge instead.

Great line.

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will from time to time is mis speak or make an error, hence a gaff.

Obama's position was NOT a gaff....it was a personal belief....many a POTUS have them...most are smart enough to understand the power of their position.

OBAMA does not and did not. Because of his arrogance and infatuation with his new found power of position, he thinks he can say as do as he may wish. To some degree he as an American does have that right.

He does not have the right to use the power of his position and the access to a world stage to promote a racist agenda....his or any other.

He stooped to the level of being a mediocre politician. Maybe he learned something as a result. However, I seriously doubt it. His belief is stronger than his good sense or better judgement and he just proved it.

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Throughout his entire "career" he has shown the propensity to do one thing and say another. If you read into his background without his pretty words ringing in your ear, you will find a VERY VERY political person with an ego inflated beyond normal.

This President will have good times as a result of his pretty words, and in fact may do some good things, but you MUST keep looking at the big picture and what he is accomplishing.

It is very typical of his "career" to put the devil in the details as someone pointed out. We will live with those details in this country for many a year !

His saying to Sen Reid that he "had a gift", in my mind is alluding to the fact that every time he gets caught up, he is able to spin words to get out of the mess.....this is a good example.....he has turned this into a race thing AND IT WAS NOT...and he is trying so hard to be the good guy that brought everyone together !

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSBjU61drc0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moonbattery.com%2F&feature=player_embedded


Well, this is the man that Obama has been listening to for 20 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moonbattery.com%2F&feature=player_embedded

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I'd love to see some serious discussion from Obama supporters justifying his comments. Of course, some people think this is a hoot. This is nothing to "chuckle" over as was suggested early on in this forum. C'mon.... anybody???

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http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDQ2OWRkYTQ2MzdkYjJmM2I2Njc0ZGM4YzRlMGZjOGQ=

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"The woman whose report of a possible house break-in led to the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. said she never mentioned race during her 911 call and is “personally devastated’’ by media accounts that suggest she placed the call because the men she observed on the porch were black, according to a lawyer acting as her spokeswoman."

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/27/gates_caller_didnt_cite_race_police_say/


So, the 911 caller did not mention race nor was it an issue for her. The police say that race was not an issue in the situation. So who mentioned race ?

The only folks who mentioned race were the professor and the President !

Again, I am very disappointed that the invitation was accepted to the WH under the circumstances that the President and the professor want to, and have said they want to, use this as a "lesson" on profiling even though profiling was never an issue !!!

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I'd love to see some serious discussion from Obama supporters justifying his comments. Of course, some people think this is a hoot. This is nothing to "chuckle" over as was suggested early on in this forum. C'mon.... anybody???

I wouldn't be suprised if you don't get too many takers since this forum is dominated by a relatively small number of like minded individuals. Not that it is necessarily a good or bad thing, just the way it is. I think a lot of people simply avoid the "piling on" effect.

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I wouldn't be suprised if you don't get too many takers since this forum is dominated by a relatively small number of like minded individuals. Not that it is necessarily a good or bad thing, just the way it is. I think a lot of people simply avoid the "piling on" effect.

Those Obama supporters were on this forum in great numbers before the election, and passed themselves off as "enlightened" and "passionate" about an Obama presidency !

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How ironic it is that the only "lesson" I see here is a lesson in "Do what I say, not what I do." The POTUS says this will be a lesson for America. He and his professor buddy are the ones that need to pay attention and learn. They have no idea this is all about them! It is amazing!!!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSBjU61drc0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moonbattery.com%2F&feature=player_embedded


Well, this is the man that Obama has been listening to for 20 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moonbattery.com%2F&feature=player_embeddedWright is so wrong he even thinks Obama is"not rich"?

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Sharpton and Jesse Jackson will be grandstanding there shortly.... they can't miss this photo-op.

In the Chicago area it was Jesse . He never saw a camera or opportunity he did not like. :agree::agree:

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How ironic it is that the only "lesson" I see here is a lesson in "Do what I say, not what I do." The POTUS says this will be a lesson for America. He and his professor buddy are the ones that need to pay attention and learn. They have no idea this is all about them! It is amazing!!!
I agree with Pres. Obama. It is a lesson fo America, however, the lesson is an old one - don't judge a book by it's cover.... America did!

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Prejudice is a great timesaver. It enables you to form opinions without bothering to get the facts. Yup, Obama spoke with a preconceived notion that policemen are bigots.
I would think you would have to be a politically astute policemen to work in the People's Republic of Cambridge. I can tell you for a fact that a red-necked cop would not last a month in that communist infested city. (In my most humble opinion)

PS. Communist infested may be too strong a description but the city is world renowned for it's extreme liberal leanings.

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the network game show was interrupted by a news offering of the actual 911 tapes of the Obamagate incident. The media was given a copy of the tape so that the public could hear for themselves exactly what was said by the 911 caller and the police dispatch. Only one mention of race was made, buy the dispatcher, as to whether the suspect was White, Black, or Hispanic. It is obvious that Mr Gates was the only one, with his racist tirade, that caused any problem.

If you now think that the dispatcher was a racist, consider whether when you had to call the police, would you want the police looking for a Black man, when a blue eyed blond just held you up at gun point? That would hardly be called racist or racial profiling.

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the network game show was interrupted by a news offering of the actual 911 tapes of the Obamagate incident. The media was given a copy of the tape so that the public could hear for themselves exactly what was said by the 911 caller and the police dispatch. Only one mention of race was made, buy the dispatcher, as to whether the suspect was White, Black, or Hispanic. It is obvious that Mr Gates was the only one, with his racist tirade, that caused any problem.

If you now think that the dispatcher was a racist, consider whether when you had to call the police, would you want the police looking for a Black man, when a blue eyed blond just held you up at gun point? That would hardly be called racist or racial profiling.
Do you really think the truth and the facts matter? The only thing important now is how this can be spun to make Pres. Obama's remarks as a commentary with value. Does the phrase "silk's purse from sow's ear" come to mind?

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"The woman whose report of a possible house break-in led to the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. said she never mentioned race during her 911 call and is “personally devastated’’ by media accounts that suggest she placed the call because the men she observed on the porch were black, according to a lawyer acting as her spokeswoman."

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/27/gates_caller_didnt_cite_race_police_say/


So, the 911 caller did not mention race nor was it an issue for her. The police say that race was not an issue in the situation. So who mentioned race ?

The only folks who mentioned race were the professor and the President !

Again, I am very disappointed that the invitation was accepted to the WH under the circumstances that the President and the professor want to, and have said they want to, use this as a "lesson" on profiling even though profiling was never an issue !!!

Bucco, I agree with you 100%. I still have hope the cop does not show up at WH. Obama showed his true feelings with that statement he made. Making his feelings very clear without knowing what the hell happened. :agree::agree:

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Bucco, I agree with you 100%. I still have hope the cop does not show up at WH. Obama showed his true feelings with that statement he made. Making his feelings very clear without knowing what the hell happened. :agree::agree:
He may not have much choice, He lives in a very blue state, in an exceptionally blue city, and to not go will make him more notorious where he lives and works. I'm sure, whatever happens, he will handle it with class.

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Steve: If he handle it with class it would be a first for him. You know like the
Special Olympics remark he made. What do we expect from the 51st ward of Chicago ?:bowdown::bowdown:

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Steve: If he handle it with class it would be a first for him. You know like the
Special Olympics remark he made. What do we expect from the 51st ward of Chicago ?:bowdown::bowdown:
I was speaking about the police officer....

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I was speaking about the police officer....

Steve: Now that makes a lot more sense. :agree::agree:

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The white policeman who arrested Gates is invited to White House to have a beer. He better make sure it isn't spiked with Kool Aid.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2009/07/26/nr.comrade.in.arms.cnn

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Its really hard to believe any President or for that matter any elected official (even a mayor) could make such a stupid stupid comment. Can't believe he thinks drinking a few beers with the two will make people forget what he really thinks about the police who were called to the scene!

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This is all too reminiscent of the falsely accused Duke lacrosse players, their trial in public by the president and faculty of Duke, their expulsion, the coach's firing, etc. Somehow the apologies were never delivered by each person in a full-page ad as the accusations were. Imagine that.

Reverse racism is the accepted norm among those who regard themselves as the intellectual elite.

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This is all too reminiscent of the falsely accused Duke lacrosse players, their trial in public by the president and faculty of Duke, their expulsion, the coach's firing, etc. Somehow the apologies were never delivered by each person in a full-page ad as the accusations were. Imagine that.

Reverse racism is the accepted norm among those who regard themselves as the intellectual elite.

:beer3::beer3::beer3:

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This is all too reminiscent of the falsely accused Duke lacrosse players, their trial in public by the president and faculty of Duke, their expulsion, the coach's firing, etc. Somehow the apologies were never delivered by each person in a full-page ad as the accusations were. Imagine that.

Reverse racism is the accepted norm among those who regard themselves as the intellectual elite.
It is a cottage industry for alot of people.