"A federal judge in Hawaii has frozen President Trump’s new executive order

[wjboyer1]

Federal judge in Hawaii freezes President Trump’s new entry ban - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/lawyers-face-off-on-trump-travel-ban-in-md-court-wednesday-morning/2017/03/14/b2d24636-090c-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?utm_term=.e139228e185f)

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[Don Baldwin]

I'd like to see the numbers of tourists from those countries...bet it ain't many.

[wjboyer1]

I'd like to see the numbers of tourists from those countries...bet it ain't many.

It doesn't matter, it is unconstitutional to ban according to religion, and it doesn't matter whether the ban excludes only portions of that religion, no matter what location they are from....

[dirtbanker]

It doesn't matter, it is unconstitutional to ban according to religion, and it doesn't matter whether the ban excludes only portions of that religion, no matter what location they are from....

Where did you get your law degree...crackerjack?

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[Sandtrap328]

I'd like to see the numbers of tourists from those countries...bet it ain't many.

Bet they all coming to see what the American bigot looks like.

Guess the Trumpanzee just can't get his foreign bigotry exclusions right, can he?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

First of all, it's not unconstitutional. It wouldn't be unconstitutional even it it were based on religions, which it is not.

But the real issue here is, should an appointed lower level judge be able to undermine the nations security?

You may want to argue whether or not this is about the nations security and that's fine, but if this is allowed then any lower level judge could prevent our nation from being attacked by freezing an order that you might agree with. That should not be how we work as a country.

[Taltarzac725]

First of all, it's not unconstitutional. It wouldn't be unconstitutional even it it were based on religions, which it is not.

But the real issue here is, should an appointed lower level judge be able to undermine the nations security?

You may want to argue whether or not this is about the nations security and that's fine, but if this is allowed then any lower level judge could prevent our nation from being attacked by freezing an order that you might agree with. That should not be how we work as a country.

National Security from a man who seems to have worked in conjunction with Russia to tip an election for him? That's rich.

[ColdNoMore]

National Security from a man who seems to have worked in conjunction with Russia to tip an election for him? That's rich.

I know...right? :1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

[dirtbanker]

National Security from a man who seems to have worked in conjunction with Russia to tip an election for him? That's rich.
Hey Wackadoodle - "seems" is the key word in your post, do you have any creditable evidence that Trump worked in conjunction with Russia to tip the election?

Obamma spent tax payers money having 16 intelligence agencies investigate computer hacking of a private entity ( the DNC), WHY?...you don't get it , do you?

She did the wrongs, she paid a consequence...you have a problem with people paying consequences for wrongs they committed?



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[Taltarzac725]

Hey Wackadoodle - "seems" is the key word in your post, do you have any creditable evidence that Trump worked in conjunction with Russia to tip the election?

Obamma spent tax payers money having 16 intelligence agencies investigate computer hacking of a private entity ( the DNC), WHY?...you don't get it , do you?

She did the wrongs, she paid a consequence...you have a problem with people paying consequences for wrongs they committed?



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They are working on getting the evidence. U.S. Intelligence Confirms Trump was Blackmailed by Russia? (http://www.snopes.com/u-s-trump-intelligence-russia/)

[larbud]

Well well well. Look who the Hawaii judge met with before ruling against Trump's executive order (http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=68118)

[dirtbanker]

They are working on getting the evidence. U.S. Intelligence Confirms Trump was Blackmailed by Russia? (http://www.snopes.com/u-s-trump-intelligence-russia/)

"working" is the key word in your post...
You did not respond to the questions posed...you don't want to share your opinion on those??
Drama Queen!

[dirtbanker]

Well well well. Look who the Hawaii judge met with before ruling against Trump's executive order (http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=68118)

Imagine that...what a POS!

[larbud]

The gift that keeps on taking...

[Taltarzac725]

And where is the casual relationship between immigrants from any of these countries on Trump's lists and actual terrorist attacks? Trump is just playing on racism and fear of Muslims.

[MDLNB]

And where is the casual relationship between immigrants from any of these countries on Trump's lists and actual terrorist attacks? Trump is just playing on racism and fear of Muslims.

Hey Dumb @ss, Muslim is NOT a race. WOW, you insisted that you were educated..

You idiots hate the fact that he is trying to protect you. Who will you blame when we have another terrorist attack on American soil? BUSH?

[Taltarzac725]

Hey Dumb @ss, Muslim is NOT a race. WOW, you insisted that you were educated..

You idiots hate the fact that he is trying to protect you. Who will you blame when we have another terrorist attack on American soil? BUSH?

Trump's Muslim ban is a dangerous distraction | | Al Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/01/trump-muslim-ban-dangerous-distraction-170128144523073.html)

Trump is making things far worse.

[MDLNB]

Trump's Muslim ban is a dangerous distraction | | Al Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/01/trump-muslim-ban-dangerous-distraction-170128144523073.html)

Trump is making things far worse.


Oh, so you quote from a terrorist organization flagship news media. Wow, whodafigured?

Is that how you answer your big screwup when you accused him of being racist against Muslims....:1rotfl:..:1rotfl:

Hopefully, the next terrorist incident will have dumb @ss leftards like you as victims instead of those that have supported national security. You folks hate America so much that you would rather invite the enemy in and surrender to them, than to defend your country. I bet you have a bit of French in your gene pool, right?

[billethkid]

Well well well. Look who the Hawaii judge met with before ruling against Trump's executive order (http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=68118)

Yobama!

[billethkid]

Trump's Muslim ban is a dangerous distraction | | Al Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/01/trump-muslim-ban-dangerous-distraction-170128144523073.html)

Trump is making things far worse.

Authentication?
Al Jazzeera?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

National Security from a man who seems to have worked in conjunction with Russia to tip an election for him? That's rich.

Why is it that the left is jumping all over the fact that there has been no proof (yet) of wire tapping of the president by the former Obama administration, but they keep harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion.

And again, think about the fact that if there was something that the president wanted to do with regards to national security that you believe strongly in or that has been proven without a doubt, a lower level appointed judge could stop it from happening.

What if this judge came in and put a freeze on one of President Obama's executive orders?

We have to get above politics and look at this as an issue of national security and a properly functioning government.

Just because you agree with this guy's decision, doesn't mean that the procedure is the right way for us to operate. I don't believe that the system of checks and balances includes lower courts. If an executive order is to be challenged, and halted, it should be done so by a majority vote of the USSJC, not one individual lower level presidential appointee.

Forget about your own viewpoint and look at the system and procedure being established here.

[Taltarzac725]

Why is it that the left is jumping all over the fact that there has been no proof (yet) of wire tapping of the president by the former Obama administration, but they keep harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion.

And again, think about the fact that if there was something that the president wanted to do with regards to national security that you believe strongly in or that has been proven without a doubt, a lower level appointed judge could stop it from happening.

What if this judge came in and put a freeze on one of President Obama's executive orders?

We have to get above politics and look at this as an issue of national security and a properly functioning government.

Just because you agree with this guy's decision, doesn't mean that the procedure is the right way for us to operate. I don't believe that the system of checks and balances includes lower courts. If an executive order is to be challenged, and halted, it should be done so by a majority vote of the USSJC, not one individual lower level presidential appointee.

Forget about your own viewpoint and look at the system and procedure being established here.

Senate intelligence leaders say they have no evidence Trump was surveilled - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/03/16/key-senators-say-they-have-no-evidence-that-trump-tower-was-wiretapped/?utm_term=.ff706c4cc58c)

Donald Trump is a pathological liar who has shown he is a man with few ethical qualms. It goes to his character. President Obama in comparison is a lot more truthful according to objective followers of politics. Barack Obama's file | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/)

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/)

[dave harris]

First of all, it's not unconstitutional. It wouldn't be unconstitutional even it it were based on religions, which it is not.

But the real issue here is, should an appointed lower level judge be able to undermine the nations security?

You may want to argue whether or not this is about the nations security and that's fine, but if this is allowed then any lower level judge could prevent our nation from being attacked by freezing an order that you might agree with. That should not be how we work as a country.

Maybe we should eliminate the judical system, what you want is a dictatorship. Take comrade trump with you as you leave for russia.

[Rockyrd]

Why is it that the left is jumping all over the fact that there has been no proof (yet) of wire tapping of the president by the former Obama administration, but they keep harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion.

And again, think about the fact that if there was something that the president wanted to do with regards to national security that you believe strongly in or that has been proven without a doubt, a lower level appointed judge could stop it from happening.

What if this judge came in and put a freeze on one of President Obama's executive orders?

We have to get above politics and look at this as an issue of national security and a properly functioning government.

Just because you agree with this guy's decision, doesn't mean that the procedure is the right way for us to operate. I don't believe that the system of checks and balances includes lower courts. If an executive order is to be challenged, and halted, it should be done so by a majority vote of the USSJC, not one individual lower level presidential appointee.

Forget about your own viewpoint and look at the system and procedure being established here.

One at a time....

1. "Why is it that the left is jumping all over the fact that there has been no proof (yet) of wire tapping of the president by the former Obama administration, but they keep harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion. "

You forget where this started and how it all began. President of the USA made a public and extremely serious charge of a felony by the past President with no even hint of proof. This was begun by Trump.

Nobody is harping over Russian ties to Trump. The investigation is about Russian involvement in our election process.

These are two huge, major things then add a National Security Advisor being forced to resign because he is a foreign agent....the many multi personal ties to Russia. Actually, this is all Trumps creation.

2. "And again, think about the fact that if there was something that the president wanted to do with regards to national security that you believe strongly in or that has been proven without a doubt, a lower level appointed judge could stop it from happening.

What if this judge came in and put a freeze on one of President Obama's executive orders?

We have to get above politics and look at this as an issue of national security and a properly functioning government.

Just because you agree with this guy's decision, doesn't mean that the procedure is the right way for us to operate. I don't believe that the system of checks and balances includes lower courts. If an executive order is to be challenged, and halted, it should be done so by a majority vote of the USSJC, not one individual lower level presidential appointee.


If this ban was for national security would not Turkey and Saudi Arabia be part of it ? They have been the origin of almost all the terrorist attacks in this country done by immigrants to this country.

Secondly, if you read the ruling, you will find that once again this is a creation of Donald Trump. I am not a constitutional lawyer but the Presidents own words are now being used and rationally the court is correct. He said what he wanted to ban over and over and over again...he made that his intent. Had he not mouthed off once again, I think this last one might well have been approved and still might be on appeal, BUT THIS IS AGAIN A CREATION OF TRUMP.

[cologal]

Well well well. Look who the Hawaii judge met with before ruling against Trump's executive order (http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=68118)

OMG!!!!

This is FAKE NEWS!!!!! Never happened....

Check your sources.

[dave harris]

Why is it that the left is jumping all over the fact that there has been no proof (yet) of wire tapping of the president by the former Obama administration, but they keep harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion.

And again, think about the fact that if there was something that the president wanted to do with regards to national security that you believe strongly in or that has been proven without a doubt, a lower level appointed judge could stop it from happening.

What if this judge came in and put a freeze on one of President Obama's executive orders?

We have to get above politics and look at this as an issue of national security and a properly functioning government.

Just because you agree with this guy's decision, doesn't mean that the procedure is the right way for us to operate. I don't believe that the system of checks and balances includes lower courts. If an executive order is to be challenged, and halted, it should be done so by a majority vote of the USSJC, not one individual lower level presidential appointee.

Forget about your own viewpoint and look at the system and procedure being established here.

"harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion."

trump people meeting with russian officials, I guess they were comparing trump vodka to russian.

"U.S. intelligence agencies, which released a report in January declaring that “Putin and the Russian government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary [Hillary] Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.”

Sessions breaks with intelligence agencies, says he doesn’t know if Russia wanted Trump to win - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/02/sessions-breaks-with-intelligence-agencies-says-he-doesnt-know-if-russia-wanted-trump-to-win/?utm_term=.e36d5cb6b9f0)

[Taltarzac725]

"harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion."

trump people meeting with russian officials, I guess they were comparing trump vodka to russian.

"U.S. intelligence agencies, which released a report in January declaring that “Putin and the Russian government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary [Hillary] Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.”

Sessions breaks with intelligence agencies, says he doesn’t know if Russia wanted Trump to win - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/02/sessions-breaks-with-intelligence-agencies-says-he-doesnt-know-if-russia-wanted-trump-to-win/?utm_term=.e36d5cb6b9f0)

Sessions is pretty much in Trump's corner in this fight.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

And where is the casual relationship between immigrants from any of these countries on Trump's lists and actual terrorist attacks? Trump is just playing on racism and fear of Muslims.

Actually the list of countries was compiled by the Obama administration as being a threat to the US.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

One at a time....

1. "Why is it that the left is jumping all over the fact that there has been no proof (yet) of wire tapping of the president by the former Obama administration, but they keep harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion. "

You forget where this started and how it all began. President of the USA made a public and extremely serious charge of a felony by the past President with no even hint of proof. This was begun by Trump.

Nobody is harping over Russian ties to Trump. The investigation is about Russian involvement in our election process.

These are two huge, major things then add a National Security Advisor being forced to resign because he is a foreign agent....the many multi personal ties to Russia. Actually, this is all Trumps creation.

2. "And again, think about the fact that if there was something that the president wanted to do with regards to national security that you believe strongly in or that has been proven without a doubt, a lower level appointed judge could stop it from happening.

What if this judge came in and put a freeze on one of President Obama's executive orders?

We have to get above politics and look at this as an issue of national security and a properly functioning government.

Just because you agree with this guy's decision, doesn't mean that the procedure is the right way for us to operate. I don't believe that the system of checks and balances includes lower courts. If an executive order is to be challenged, and halted, it should be done so by a majority vote of the USSJC, not one individual lower level presidential appointee.


If this ban was for national security would not Turkey and Saudi Arabia be part of it ? They have been the origin of almost all the terrorist attacks in this country done by immigrants to this country.

Secondly, if you read the ruling, you will find that once again this is a creation of Donald Trump. I am not a constitutional lawyer but the Presidents own words are now being used and rationally the court is correct. He said what he wanted to ban over and over and over again...he made that his intent. Had he not mouthed off once again, I think this last one might well have been approved and still might be on appeal, BUT THIS IS AGAIN A CREATION OF TRUMP.

First, if you've read all of the posts in this thread you'll see that several people have been bringing up the fallacy that President Trump has ties to Russia.

The national security advisor was not a foreign agent. He did some work for a Turkish/American businessman and because there may have ben a hint of impropriety, he resigned.

As to the countries included in the ban, the list was compiled by the Obama administration as countries that posed a danger to the US.

The fact that the courts have looked at President Trump's words during the election and did not make a ruling based strictly on the contents of the order and the law is precisely what is wrong with the ruling and the reason that it will eventually get over turned.

[Rockyrd]

First, if you've read all of the posts in this thread you'll see that several people have been bringing up the fallacy that President Trump has ties to Russia.

The national security advisor was not a foreign agent. He did some work for a Turkish/American businessman and because there may have ben a hint of impropriety, he resigned.

As to the countries included in the ban, the list was compiled by the Obama administration as countries that posed a danger to the US.

The fact that the courts have looked at President Trump's words during the election and did not make a ruling based strictly on the contents of the order and the law is precisely what is wrong with the ruling and the reason that it will eventually get over turned.

Again one at a time...

1. If you are using TOTV posts to substantiate your claim you are TERRIBLY misguided. That is like saying "ALL Democrats are..." or "all liberals ate..". Since I have referenced your point, allow me to speak for myself and my memory of posts on here.

I NEVER ever one time said anything other than he has FINANCIAL TIES of major proportions to Russia. THAT is a fact. The investigation on Russia involvement surely has/will touch on that, and again, that investigation is about Russia insolvent and attempt to interfere in a US election. Does his refusal to share income tax info add to that...yes, because as you know, US lenders have for years refused to lend him money, and should he be deeply indebted to ANY foreign country, his tax statement would reveal that.

The National Security Advisor was in the process of registering as a lobbyist for a foreign interest, AND was fired for lying to the Vice President about phone calls between he and Russia.

A number (in excess of 6) of Trump team members had close, not casual, but very close ties not only to Russia, but to Putin

With all of that, I would think you would be happy that the USA intelligence might look into that while investigating KNOWN verifiable attempts at interfering in our election.

2. As far as the countries on the banned list, yes they came from a list of countries compiled by the Obama administration as dangerous places to visit, and in addition they added a few more steps to our vetting. The ban did not include the countries from which most terror has come from...Saudi Arabia and Turkey as two examples. Initially our President said these were countries that Obama identified for banning, then he said they were the worst terror countries. In any case, there was a list, but misrepresented by Trump.

3. I do not think the fact that what a President says has consequences has sunk in to him or you. We are supposed to heed and trust every word the President says, and he needs to learn that. The judges, and I agree it will probably be overruled, but they are saying to Trump...you made it extremely clear what your intent was....that counts.

Listen, today he continues to embarrass our country (I refer to while standing by Merkel, he actually told a German reporter that they should go to Fox News about his claim of British involvement in wiretapping because Judge Napoltano said it) with his words and accusations that he gets from websites and people on Fox he likes. He is the President....he can validate anything he wishes at any time.

Point is....if he didn't spend time making false SERIOUS claims, imagine we might be talking about health care or the budget. You cannot as President simply make things up....you must act like a grown up and govern. Campaign has been over.

His words are what is screwing up any conversations to get anything done.

[Rockyrd]

This is simply to clarify my posts on the wiretapping we now are charging at U.K. And clarification that the President bases his charges on a comment by Judge Napolitano on Fox.

Rest of the world, at least, gets belly laughs.


"British officials complained to the White House Thursday after Press Secretary Sean Spicer cited a Fox News commentator's report claiming former President Barack Obama had enlisted U.K. intelligence to spy on President Donald Trump.

Andrew Napolitano, a legal pundit for Fox News who has advised the current president, claimed during a March 14 telecast that three intelligence sources told the network Obama personally appealed to the British Government Communications Headquarters, known as the GCHQ, to spy on Trump. Spicer highlighted the report in a list of media accounts he read to reporters during his briefing on Thursday, arguing that the stories helped validate the president's unsubstantiated allegation that his predecessor had surveilled him.."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-british-gchq-wiretapping-20170317-story.html

"UPDATED with video: “Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano’s commentary; Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the now President of the United States was surveilled at any time in any way. Full Stop,” Shepard Smith said on Fox News Channel moments after Donald Trump told reporters to talk to FNC about remarks his press secretary made from the podium at the White House.



[WATCH] Fox News: “We Know Of No Evidence Trump Surveilled At Any Time In Any Way” | Deadline (http://deadline.com/2017/03/fox-news-no-evidence-trump-wiretap-1202045707/)

[Rockyrd]

This is simply to clarify my posts on the wiretapping we now are charging at U.K. And clarification that the President bases his charges on a comment by Judge Napolitano on Fox.

Rest of the world, at least, gets belly laughs.


"British officials complained to the White House Thursday after Press Secretary Sean Spicer cited a Fox News commentator's report claiming former President Barack Obama had enlisted U.K. intelligence to spy on President Donald Trump.

Andrew Napolitano, a legal pundit for Fox News who has advised the current president, claimed during a March 14 telecast that three intelligence sources told the network Obama personally appealed to the British Government Communications Headquarters, known as the GCHQ, to spy on Trump. Spicer highlighted the report in a list of media accounts he read to reporters during his briefing on Thursday, arguing that the stories helped validate the president's unsubstantiated allegation that his predecessor had surveilled him.."

British spies say pundit cited by White House, who says they tapped Trump, is 'utterly ridiculous' - Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-british-gchq-wiretapping-20170317-story.html)

"UPDATED with video: “Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano’s commentary; Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the now President of the United States was surveilled at any time in any way. Full Stop,” Shepard Smith said on Fox News Channel moments after Donald Trump told reporters to talk to FNC about remarks his press secretary made from the podium at the White House.



[WATCH] Fox News: “We Know Of No Evidence Trump Surveilled At Any Time In Any Way” | Deadline (http://deadline.com/2017/03/fox-news-no-evidence-trump-wiretap-1202045707/)

[Rockyrd]

Just keep in mind, the President of the United States just has to pick up the phone to get any information he needs to know.

Not necessary to watch Fox !

[ColdNoMore]

Just keep in mind, the President of the United States just has to pick up the phone to get any information he needs to know.

Not necessary to watch Fox !

He is imploding in front of the entire world and it is beyond embarrassing...it is dangerous!

As I and many others predicted, he had no clue as to how tough a job being POTUS really is and he has decided that he doesn't have the skills or temperament to be a leader of anything more than his own company...so he creates chaos with his lies instead.

It's what he has done his entire life...so he doesn't know anything differently.

He is in the process of destroying our allied relationship with Great Britain and Germany...and he doesn't care.

Will someone please tackle his smart phone and put some duct tape over his mouth...STAT! :pray:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

One at a time....

1. "Why is it that the left is jumping all over the fact that there has been no proof (yet) of wire tapping of the president by the former Obama administration, but they keep harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion. "

You forget where this started and how it all began. President of the USA made a public and extremely serious charge of a felony by the past President with no even hint of proof. This was begun by Trump.

Nobody is harping over Russian ties to Trump. The investigation is about Russian involvement in our election process.

These are two huge, major things then add a National Security Advisor being forced to resign because he is a foreign agent....the many multi personal ties to Russia. Actually, this is all Trumps creation.

2. "And again, think about the fact that if there was something that the president wanted to do with regards to national security that you believe strongly in or that has been proven without a doubt, a lower level appointed judge could stop it from happening.

What if this judge came in and put a freeze on one of President Obama's executive orders?

We have to get above politics and look at this as an issue of national security and a properly functioning government.

Just because you agree with this guy's decision, doesn't mean that the procedure is the right way for us to operate. I don't believe that the system of checks and balances includes lower courts. If an executive order is to be challenged, and halted, it should be done so by a majority vote of the USSJC, not one individual lower level presidential appointee.


If this ban was for national security would not Turkey and Saudi Arabia be part of it ? They have been the origin of almost all the terrorist attacks in this country done by immigrants to this country.

Secondly, if you read the ruling, you will find that once again this is a creation of Donald Trump. I am not a constitutional lawyer but the Presidents own words are now being used and rationally the court is correct. He said what he wanted to ban over and over and over again...he made that his intent. Had he not mouthed off once again, I think this last one might well have been approved and still might be on appeal, BUT THIS IS AGAIN A CREATION OF TRUMP.

First, if you've read all of the posts in this thread you'll see that several people have been bringing up the fallacy that President Trump has ties to Russia.

The national security advisor was not a foreign agent. He did some work for a Turkish/American businessman and because there may have ben a hint of impropriety, he resigned.

As to the countries included in the ban, the list was compiled by the Obama administration as countries that posed a danger to the US.

The fact that the courts have looked at President Trump's words during the election and did not make a ruling based strictly on the contents of the order and the law is precisely what is wrong with the ruling and the reason that it will eventually get over turned.

[Rockyrd]

First, if you've read all of the posts in this thread you'll see that several people have been bringing up the fallacy that President Trump has ties to Russia.

The national security advisor was not a foreign agent. He did some work for a Turkish/American businessman and because there may have ben a hint of impropriety, he resigned.

As to the countries included in the ban, the list was compiled by the Obama administration as countries that posed a danger to the US.

The fact that the courts have looked at President Trump's words during the election and did not make a ruling based strictly on the contents of the order and the law is precisely what is wrong with the ruling and the reason that it will eventually get over turned.

This is a duplicate of your post #29, which was responded to in post #30

[MDLNB]

This is a duplicate of your post #29, which was responded to in post #30

He needed to repeat his comment due to the density of left wingnut skulls that are just porous enough to allow a certain amount of data to seep through at a time. Since you claim that you are not a left wing nut, this should not offend you.