Why America?Why?

[larbud]

:shrug::shrug::shrug:

[Don Baldwin]

Why are we giving our country away to Hispanics? I wonder that too.

Whites are 49% of the population...and falling. From 90% in the 50s.
Hispanics are the majority of babies being born...and that number is increasing each year.
Minorities are the majority of children enrolling for school...yup...the NEW baby boom...a boom of morons.

Why oh why are you giving up your country? Your culture? Your heritage? Your families future?

[Taltarzac725]

Why are we giving our country away to Hispanics? I wonder that too.

Whites are 49% of the population...and falling. From 90% in the 50s.
Hispanics are the majority of babies being born...and that number is increasing each year.
Minorities are the majority of children enrolling for school...yup...the NEW baby boom...a boom of morons.

Why oh why are you giving up your country? Your culture? Your heritage? Your families future?

The Spanish have been here before us especially in Florida and the Southwest. Including California.

And the Hispanic culture has a lot to offer.

[Taltarzac725]

I still cannot figure out how some people were so stupid to put P.T. Barnum into the White House. P. T. Barnum - Wikiquote (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum)

[Don Baldwin]

The Spanish have been here before us especially in Florida and the Southwest. Including California.

And the Hispanic culture has a lot to offer.

Yes they were...but WE own it now...legally.

Should Russia start invading Alaska with Russians because "Russians were there first"?

Should the French take back the Louisiana purchase by invading the area with French people? They were there first.

Should the Native American's take back the entire country because they were here first?

No to all...and we should STOP the Hispanic invasion before it IS too late.

WHAT do they have to offer besides Mexican food? Most of it is the same few ingredients...presented...differently. Burrito, taco, chimichanga, enchilada...all the same stuff. GANGS? They do offer that. Hispanic areas are infested with dangerous gangs. Music? Hear it enough...you'll get tired of it. It's like black music...that crap gets old too. What greatness do they have to offer?

[Don Baldwin]

I still cannot figure out how some people were so stupid to put P.T. Barnum into the White House. P. T. Barnum - Wikiquote (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum)

There's a sucker born every minute...

Did YOU vote for EITHER the D or the R?

He was talking about YOU...

[Taltarzac725]

There's a sucker born every minute...

Did YOU vote for EITHER the D or the R?

He was talking about YOU...

Neither Clinton nor Trump were all that attractive to me but almost anyone could see what a con man Trump is and did you ever hear of a rope and a grappling hook? So much for that idiotic idea of a huge wall.

[larbud]

What I was referring to was the video shown to the u.n. general assembly in 2008 showing the number of births needed to sustain or further a culture... Think islam.. Why did America show them how to over run the world with sand ****** babies and better yet why are We paying them to do it???????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????

[Taltarzac725]

What I was referring to was the video shown to the u.n. general assembly in 2008 showing the number of births needed to sustain or further a culture... Think islam.. Why did America show them how to over run the world with sand ****** babies and better yet why are We paying them to do it???????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????

There are many American Muslims who hold onto US culture and values. Then there are terrorists raised up in US States who shoot up movie theaters, bomb Oklahoma City buildings, or target African-American churches or other places.

[larbud]

There are many American Muslims who hold onto US culture and values. Then there are terrorists raised up in US States who shoot up movie theaters, bomb Oklahoma City buildings, or target African-American churches or other places.

What the fusk does that have to do with sand nidgers breeding like rabbits then coming here with YOU libturds blessings to sponge off of hard working Americans???

[Don Baldwin]

There are many American Muslims who hold onto US culture and values. Then there are terrorists raised up in US States who shoot up movie theaters, bomb Oklahoma City buildings, or target African-American churches or other places.

NO...there are NOT.

It's like saying a LOT of Catholics use birth control. A LOT of people may use contraception...but they're NOT Catholics.

"But in 1930, Christianity split on birth control. The Anglican Church endorsed contraception—which, at the time, included condoms, diaphragms, and cervical caps—if used “in the light of Christian principles,” and other Protestant denominations followed suit. ... Birth control was still effectively prohibited for Catholics.Feb 19, 2016"

"Muslims" who interact with "us", the heathens, are NOT truly Muslims. Just as a practicing Catholic will not use contraception, a practicing Muslim will not befriend "us". Will not practice blasphemy against Islam by engaging in "our" cultural norms.

What you mentioned is so infrequent that it makes the news. There are MASS shooting every day in the gang ridden, minority ridden, inner city slums...it's so common, it doesn't make the national news. If you were told about ALL the black crime and violence...you'd be screaming to have them removed from society. You'd WANT them ALL locked up.

[Reiver]

Why are we giving our country away to Hispanics? I wonder that too.

Whites are 49% of the population...and falling. From 90% in the 50s.
Hispanics are the majority of babies being born...and that number is increasing each year.
Minorities are the majority of children enrolling for school...yup...the NEW baby boom...a boom of morons.

Why oh why are you giving up your country? Your culture? Your heritage? Your families future?

I wish you'd stop being stupid....
Sure, whites are currently a minority of births.
Defunding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting won’t kill PBS. It will hurt Trump voters. - Vox (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/17/14951868/trump-defund-pbs-npr)
Sure, whites are a minority in California:
It's official: Latinos now outnumber whites in California - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-census-latinos-20150708-story.html)
But nationally, non-Hispanic whites are 63.7% of the population:
Demography of the United States - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States)
Variously expected to reach the tipping point in 2044:
White Americans to become a minority by 2044 thanks to ageing population | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2875786/White-people-minority-2044-thanks-ageing-population-Hispanics-make-quarter-U-S-citizens.html)
Or possibly in 2065:
Future immigration will change the face of America by 2065 | Pew Research Center (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/05/future-immigration-will-change-the-face-of-america-by-2065/)

[rubicon]

Why America Why?

Evidently means different things to different people. I read that caption and wonder why American politicians are so polarized that they can't or won't perform in the jobs position they were elected to uphold?

I wonder why politicians all believe its party first and the heck with voters?

I wonder if they even realize or care the danger they are placing this nation in?

I wonder if they even realize or care how foolish they make America look to the rest of the world?

Its one thing to have posters on this thread bicker back in forth but quite another when its elected officials.

Be afraid, be very afraid

Personal Best Regards:

[MDLNB]

I still cannot figure out how some people were so stupid to put P.T. Barnum into the White House. P. T. Barnum - Wikiquote (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum)


If for no other reason, than to keep the serial felon from destroying our country. If Hillary had been incarcerated like she should have been a year ago, then maybe you would not be asking this question.

[Rockyrd]

Why America Why?

Evidently means different things to different people. I read that caption and wonder why American politicians are so polarized that they can't or won't perform in the jobs position they were elected to uphold?

I wonder why politicians all believe its party first and the heck with voters?

I wonder if they even realize or care the danger they are placing this nation in?

I wonder if they even realize or care how foolish they make America look to the rest of the world?

Its one thing to have posters on this thread bicker back in forth but quite another when its elected officials.

Be afraid, be very afraid

Personal Best Regards:

I doubt if you saw or heard the hearings, but I was happy at The opening remarks by the co chairman.

Hope I am not reading too much into it, but it was clear that they knew coming into a PUBLIC HEARING at their request.....both witnesses did NOT want to attend and said so. The sub comm requested this public session to at least INFORM Americans where things stood to avoid confusion, which because nobody else was talking was the norm.

Anyway, opening remarks were pretty clear that while the entire group stood shoulder to shoulder to find the truth, they are from two different parties. It was said, it will appear, and it did, as if we are split, but be assured that is not the case.

Republicans carried the torch as requested by Trump, i.e., leaks and almost all their questions were aimed that way. Democrats came from the possible collusion itch the Trump campaign and Russia.

Neither side, nor the witnesses, had any hesitation in knowing "in a unclassified setting" that Russia did attempt to sway the election. That was 100% agreed on, and some questions were aimed at the manner and methods used.

This hearing, in my opinion, gave me confidence that they will get to the truth.

If you are hard left or hard right, you probably are unhappy.with the tone of the other sides questioning, but that is why you have to read and put it all in context.

Politics need not be so polarizing, but you need to debate with facts, not Twitter or any other form of limited conversation.

They knew there was differing viewpoints and I believe they allowed for that.

Sometimes we say it is too political, but in fact it is not them, it is that we only hear what we want.

[Rockyrd]

This is my WHY ......this presidency is shaking any confidence we had overseas...WHY would you do this. Our NATO allies come SECOND to Russia now.

Without NATO folks, Russia will roll.....and every step seems to strengthen Russia and weaken NATO.

His behavior and public rant with Merkel last week, and now this..

"Secretary of State Rex Tillerson plans to visit Russia next month and will likely be in Florida as President Trump hosts Chinese President Xi Jinping, but he won't be in Brussels for a NATO foreign ministers meeting on April 5-6, the State Department says.

Tillerson will travel to Moscow in about two weeks, after he attends meetings of G-7 foreign ministers in Italy slated for April 10-11, the State Department says.

News of the trip to Russia emerged late on the same day FBI Director James Comey "confirmed that his agency is investigating possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia" in last year's U.S. election, as the Two-Way reported."


Secretary Of State Tillerson Will Visit Russia In April, But Will Miss A NATO Meeting : The Two-Way : NPR (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/21/520938653/secretary-of-state-tillerson-will-visit-russia-in-april-but-will-miss-a-nato-mee)

[cologal]

If for no other reason, than to keep the serial felon from destroying our country. If Hillary had been incarcerated like she should have been a year ago, then maybe you would not be asking this question.

Had Hillary been indicted and convicted then and only then would she have been incarcerated. But none of that happened so we fail to see your point!

There were no grounds to do so!

[Don Baldwin]

I wish you'd stop being stupid....
Sure, whites are currently a minority of births.
Defunding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting won’t kill PBS. It will hurt Trump voters. - Vox (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/17/14951868/trump-defund-pbs-npr)
Sure, whites are a minority in California:
It's official: Latinos now outnumber whites in California - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-census-latinos-20150708-story.html)
But nationally, non-Hispanic whites are 63.7% of the population:
Demography of the United States - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States)
Variously expected to reach the tipping point in 2044:
White Americans to become a minority by 2044 thanks to ageing population | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2875786/White-people-minority-2044-thanks-ageing-population-Hispanics-make-quarter-U-S-citizens.html)
Or possibly in 2065:
Future immigration will change the face of America by 2065 | Pew Research Center (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/05/future-immigration-will-change-the-face-of-america-by-2065/)

No no no...it's already happening...

Joe Biden...whites a minority in 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAGhyFHnuv8

[Reiver]

Joe Biden vs The Census Bureau....
That explains so much.
You model yourself after creepy ole Uncle Joe.

[teritat]

my why is this - why can no conversation be held concerning politics with people without them pulling out their gutter mouths? I'm sure the majority of 'you' worked in an environment that cursing or labeling people would have gotten you into some kind of trouble. Also, in business, we never interrupted while someone was presented a point. We handled ourselves like "normal" adults. Then it seems that once people retire, they say the heck with it and go to the gutter. Neither Clinton or Trump with a good choice for president, but they were our only choices. We can choose to desire who was the 'lessor of two evils', but it's a moot point. Trump won. Now, he's the guy in charge. BUT that doesn't mean we have to agree with what he's doing (not doing) but you got to be honest and say that this President has said some really stupid things and looks stupid to the world. That's frustrating when you realize he is the leader of the free world ---- that's really scary. What's next - let's pause; finish the investigation as to how much of his team (and maybe himself) was/is involved with the Russians and then once that's completed and any persons involved removed from office, start on improving health care costs......and if you are a democrat, get out there in the 2018 mid elections and get more democrats in the Congress...because just changing a president isn't the answer...it's downstream where it's very important to get the honorable and smart people into politics.....okay, all you haters....start hating on me...

[cologal]

NO...there are NOT.

It's like saying a LOT of Catholics use birth control. A LOT of people may use contraception...but they're NOT Catholics.

"But in 1930, Christianity split on birth control. The Anglican Church endorsed contraception—which, at the time, included condoms, diaphragms, and cervical caps—if used “in the light of Christian principles,” and other Protestant denominations followed suit. ... Birth control was still effectively prohibited for Catholics.Feb 19, 2016"

"Muslims" who interact with "us", the heathens, are NOT truly Muslims. Just as a practicing Catholic will not use contraception, a practicing Muslim will not befriend "us". Will not practice blasphemy against Islam by engaging in "our" cultural norms.

What you mentioned is so infrequent that it makes the news. There are MASS shooting every day in the gang ridden, minority ridden, inner city slums...it's so common, it doesn't make the national news. If you were told about ALL the black crime and violence...you'd be screaming to have them removed from society. You'd WANT them ALL locked up.

I know the Catholic's in my family used birth control! I am the 7th of 9 children. In the next generation the largest group is 4. My mother came from 12 the largest this generation is 3. Birth Control is common practice!

Yes there is gang violence in major cities but that has been going on for decades! I was a teenager when the riots in Newark and Washington hit one summer.

You talk a lot about the minorities and violence but nothing about the amount of guns! Why?

[rubicon]

I doubt if you saw or heard the hearings, but I was happy at The opening remarks by the co chairman.

Hope I am not reading too much into it, but it was clear that they knew coming into a PUBLIC HEARING at their request.....both witnesses did NOT want to attend and said so. The sub comm requested this public session to at least INFORM Americans where things stood to avoid confusion, which because nobody else was talking was the norm.

Anyway, opening remarks were pretty clear that while the entire group stood shoulder to shoulder to find the truth, they are from two different parties. It was said, it will appear, and it did, as if we are split, but be assured that is not the case.

Republicans carried the torch as requested by Trump, i.e., leaks and almost all their questions were aimed that way. Democrats came from the possible collusion itch the Trump campaign and Russia.

Neither side, nor the witnesses, had any hesitation in knowing "in a unclassified setting" that Russia did attempt to sway the election. That was 100% agreed on, and some questions were aimed at the manner and methods used.

This hearing, in my opinion, gave me confidence that they will get to the truth.

If you are hard left or hard right, you probably are unhappy.with the tone of the other sides questioning, but that is why you have to read and put it all in context.

Politics need not be so polarizing, but you need to debate with facts, not Twitter or any other form of limited conversation.

They knew there was differing viewpoints and I believe they allowed for that.

Sometimes we say it is too political, but in fact it is not them, it is that we only hear what we want.

Dear guest:

Believe it or not I don't view myself as being hard left or hard right but simply a patriot that desires our elected leaders stop the partisan politics, etc and to do the job they were elected to do.

I am a bottom line guy. I look at results and neither party is getting to the store. I am not buying what I see in these so called meetings its all staged drama for the public but in actuality they continue the game of one up-manship

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

Dear guest:

Believe it or not I don't view myself as being hard left or hard right but simply a patriot that desires our elected leaders stop the partisan politics, etc and to do the job they were elected to do.

I am a bottom line guy. I look at results and neither party is getting to the store. I am not buying what I see in these so called meetings its all staged drama for the public but in actuality they continue the game of one up-manship

Personal Best Regards:

....You don't believe Russia attempted to sway our election with cyber crimes ?

....You do not think our country should investigate such invasion ?

....You don't believe when a sitting President accuse another President of a felony, that should be investigated ?

....You don't believe when faced with "evidence" that perhaps a campaign for President colluded with Russia it should be investigated ?

....You don't believe when a sitting President accuse our closest ally of consorting to tap the phones of a sitting President should be investigated ?

What kind of "patriot" is this ?

How would yo get to the "bottom line" you seek ?

[Don Baldwin]

Joe Biden vs The Census Bureau....
That explains so much.
You model yourself after creepy ole Uncle Joe.

Yes I do...because I've SEEN the changing face of America...I've SEEN as the Hispanic population grew and grew. I can SEE that there are more and more every year.

WHY do you believe the census? It's just more government propaganda. Do you believe the unemployment rate? The CPI? EVERYTHING the government tells you is true? It's NOT...and neither is the "census data".

Look at these numbers...do you believe that there are MORE white people now that in 2010? I sure don't.

Race and Hispanic Origin

White alone, percent, July 1, 2015, (a) 77.1%
White alone, percent, April 1, 2010 (a) 72.4%
Hispanic or Latino, percent, July 1, 2015, (V2015) (b) 17.6%
Hispanic or Latino, percent, April 1, 2010 (b) 16.3%
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, July 1, 2015, (V2015) 61.6%
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, April 1, 2010 63.7%

UNITED STATES QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/)

WHEN was the last census? Not in 2015...they're MAKING UP those numbers...guessing...it's propaganda.


my why is this - why can no conversation be held concerning politics with people without them pulling out their gutter mouths? I'm sure the majority of 'you' worked in an environment that cursing or labeling people would have gotten you into some kind of trouble. Also, in business, we never interrupted while someone was presented a point. We handled ourselves like "normal" adults. Then it seems that once people retire, they say the heck with it and go to the gutter. Neither Clinton or Trump with a good choice for president, but they were our only choices. We can choose to desire who was the 'lessor of two evils', but it's a moot point. Trump won. Now, he's the guy in charge. BUT that doesn't mean we have to agree with what he's doing (not doing) but you got to be honest and say that this President has said some really stupid things and looks stupid to the world. That's frustrating when you realize he is the leader of the free world ---- that's really scary. What's next - let's pause; finish the investigation as to how much of his team (and maybe himself) was/is involved with the Russians and then once that's completed and any persons involved removed from office, start on improving health care costs......and if you are a democrat, get out there in the 2018 mid elections and get more democrats in the Congress...because just changing a president isn't the answer...it's downstream where it's very important to get the honorable and smart people into politics.....okay, all you haters....start hating on me...

They were NOT your ONLY choices...that is a SELF IMPOSED limitation...there were 4 others on the FL ballot you COULD have...you SHOULD have chosen instead. Instead, you picked a corrupt crook...ANOTHER corrupt crook. Meet the new boss...same as the old boss...here to steal and give to his superiors.

I know the Catholic's in my family used birth control! I am the 7th of 9 children. In the next generation the largest group is 4. My mother came from 12 the largest this generation is 3. Birth Control is common practice!

Yes there is gang violence in major cities but that has been going on for decades! I was a teenager when the riots in Newark and Washington hit one summer.

You talk a lot about the minorities and violence but nothing about the amount of guns! Why?

If they did...they are NOT "good" Catholics...they are Catholic in name only and practice relativism...picking and choosing what THEY will obey and follow.

The gun violence is mostly in the inner cities...why would you care what they do to each other? Less mouths to feed. There is NOT a gun violence "problem" with white people. We're a VERY low percentage compared to blacks/Hispanics. The gun problem is just ANOTHER of the inner city problems.

Dear guest:

Believe it or not I don't view myself as being hard left or hard right but simply a patriot that desires our elected leaders stop the partisan politics, etc and to do the job they were elected to do.

I am a bottom line guy. I look at results and neither party is getting to the store. I am not buying what I see in these so called meetings its all staged drama for the public but in actuality they continue the game of one up-manship

Personal Best Regards:

They continue to STEAL from us is what they do. WE "borrow" a $ trillion a year...and they end up getting it.

[dirtbanker]

I know the Catholic's in my family used birth control! I am the 7th of 9 children. In the next generation the largest group is 4. My mother came from 12 the largest this generation is 3. Birth Control is common practice!

Yes there is gang violence in major cities but that has been going on for decades! I was a teenager when the riots in Newark and Washington hit one summer.

You talk a lot about the minorities and violence but nothing about the amount of guns! Why?

Your parent's offspring are not "good catholics". The Hispanics and Latinos truly believe they are going to he11 if they use birth control. You have decided if you throw a $20 in the basket and ask for forgiveness...your good enough.

The gang violence today happens everyday and happens more times per day as the years go by. Reason: there is more gang members. If they only had the choice "work or starve" there would be less...but the liberals want to help by throwing money at them and have held them back in life.

You got a problem with guns?? I have MANY! I have concealed carry in 3 states (which allows me to carry in the states that touch their borders), Illinois requires 16 hours of instruction and you have to pass a shooting efficiency test. I hunt and shoot often to improve my accuracy, I can shoot a prarie dog (rodent 3" wide x 9" tall) from 700 yards. To date: I have never pointed a gun at a person, and hope I never have too. I carry because times are uncertain ( just watch the evening news) and I do not wish to become another defenseless victim of the all to often random crime. Now you might wish to just stand their and let 2 people kick your a$$ for your valuables, but I would prefer to have an opportunity to defend myself. Go ahead and suggest if we made guns illegal those criminal gang members would turn thier guns in, and there would be less shootings.



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[Don Baldwin]

Your parent's offspring are not "good catholics". The Hispanics and Latinos truly believe they are going to he11 if they use birth control. You have decided if you throw a $20 in the basket and ask for forgiveness...your good enough.

The gang violence today happens everyday and happens more times per day as the years go by. Reason: there is more gang members. If they only had the choice "work or starve" there would be less...but the liberals want to help by throwing money at them and have held them back in life.

You got a problem with guns?? I have MANY! I have concealed carry in 3 states (which allows me to carry in the states that touch their borders), Illinois requires 16 hours of instruction and you have to pass a shooting efficiency test. I hunt and shoot often to improve my accuracy, I can shoot a prarie dog (rodent 3" wide x 9" tall) from 700 yards. To date: I have never pointed a gun at a person, and hope I never have too. I carry because times are uncertain ( just watch the evening news) and I do not wish to become another defenseless victim of the all to often random crime. Now you might wish to just stand their and let 2 people kick your a$$ for your valuables, but I would prefer to have an opportunity to defend myself. Go ahead and suggest if we made guns illegal those criminal gang members would turn thier guns in, and there would be less shootings.



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Crime and violence in America is a black/Hispanic problem. They and the broken whites who hang around with them, are responsible for 90% of the crime and violence in America.

Take away the minorities and America goes right back to the top. Keep adding more minorities, make them the majority and America keeps falling.

You HAVE a choice...stop them from taking over.

[dillywho]

Dear guest:

Believe it or not I don't view myself as being hard left or hard right but simply a patriot that desires our elected leaders stop the partisan politics, etc and to do the job they were elected to do.

I am a bottom line guy. I look at results and neither party is getting to the store. I am not buying what I see in these so called meetings its all staged drama for the public but in actuality they continue the game of one up-manship

Personal Best Regards:

:BigApplause:

[Reiver]

....You don't believe Russia attempted to sway our election with cyber crimes ?

Russia DID NOT try to sway the election. Russia attempted to destabilized the USA. They tried to hack both parties in the hopes finding things for the public to be angry about. They failed to get into the RNC system.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/russias-attempt-to-hack-the-rnc-thwarted-by-a-spam-filter.html
Ironically, all the idiotic whining about Russian hacking is actually destabilizing the US. So it seems that the democrats are helping the Russians. Go figure.

[Rockyrd]

My major concern about our President and his presidency is NOT his policies, nor his ego, but what he is doing to us, America and our presidency with his incessant lying to us.

"All presidents lie. Richard Nixon said he was not a crook, yet he orchestrated the most shamelessly crooked act in the modern presidency. Ronald Reagan said he wasn’t aware of the Iran-Contra deal; there’s evidence he was. Bill Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman; he did, or close enough. Lying in politics transcends political party and era. It is, in some ways, an inherent part of the profession of politicking.

But Donald Trump is in a different category. The sheer frequency, spontaneity and seeming irrelevance of his lies have no precedent. Nixon, Reagan and Clinton were protecting their reputations; Trump seems to lie for the pure joy of it. A whopping 70 percent of Trump’s statements that PolitiFact checked during the campaign were false, while only 4 percent were completely true, and 11 percent mostly true."

Trump’s Lies vs. Your Brain - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/donald-trump-lies-liar-effect-brain-214658)

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It has infected his staff as they now openly and amostbwith glee simply lie.

The below is an Opinion piece and reflects from a psychiatrist view what is happening. Both Trumps ghost writers warned us about he sets up in his head a false narrative, and then sets ot to believe it and spread it. He has even made up names to use as he posed as this fictions character to sell whatever conspiracy theory he had.

The affect in us, I am afraid is that we now EXPECT him andbthem to lie to us. How that works as we face a crisis remains to be seen, but the focus of the column is how they need to be called on their lies. We see that on TOTV...tell the lie long enough, you really believe it.

Anyway for what it might be worth. This man terrifies me, again not based on policy issues but simply his lack of any moral compass.

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"The infection is spreading throughout this administration. How many of us have come to expect Spicer -- and Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Kellyanne Conway to lie to us. The scary thing is they will continue to do so. And when the press blows the whistle, they'll look you in the face and tell you they aren't lying. They'll brush you aside with "alternate facts," assert you are "fake news" and suggest something ridiculous -- like perhaps it's your microwave or British intelligence that's spying on you.

I'm here to tell you that no, you're not going crazy. You're dealing with liars:
1. Their interests conflict with yours.
2. They've repeated these lies (and omissions) so many times they now believe they are true.
3. They justify the lying because they are doing it to protect someone else: Trump.
That is the truth about lying. And that's not going to change until you, as citizens, blow the whistle early and often and demand it change."

Blow the whistle on Sean Spicer (Opinion) - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/opinions/spicer-problem-with-truth-robbins/)

[Rockyrd]

Russia DID NOT try to sway the election. Russia attempted to destabilized the USA. They tried to hack both parties in the hopes finding things for the public to be angry about. They failed to get into the RNC system.
Russia’s Attempt to Hack the RNC Thwarted by a Spam Filter (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/russias-attempt-to-hack-the-rnc-thwarted-by-a-spam-filter.html)
Ironically, all the idiotic whining about Russian hacking is actually destabilizing the US. So it seems that the democrats are helping the Russians. Go figure.

YOUR LINK IS FROM MONTHS AGO. YHIS SHIP HAS SAILED. PLEASE READ UP TO DATE NEWS.

Watch hearings or somehow have someone explain to you what is happening in real time and NOW

[Reiver]

YOUR LINK IS FROM MONTHS AGO. YHIS SHIP HAS SAILED. PLEASE READ UP TO DATE NEWS.

Watch hearings or somehow have someone explain to you what is happening in real time and NOW

Did you seriously just try to play The Hillary Card™?

[Rockyrd]

"A commissioner on the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) sent President Trump a letter Tuesday demanding that he provide evidence to back up his claims of voter fraud in last year's elections.

“You have alleged that hundreds of thousands of voters were bused from Massachusetts to New Hampshire to vote illegally on Election Day 2016,” Ellen Weintraub wrote in the letter, which was first reported by The Washington Post.

Trump has suggested massive voter fraud helped Democrat Hillary Clinton beat him in the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes. More recently, Trump has also blamed voter fraud for former Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte's defeat in her New Hampshire reelection bid. "

FEC commissioner to Trump: Prove voter fraud | TheHill (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/325260-fec-commissioner-to-trump-prove-voter-fraud)

[Reiver]

Prove that every account on TOV forums is owned by one and only one person.

[Cedwards38]

Yes they were...but WE own it now...legally.

Should Russia start invading Alaska with Russians because "Russians were there first"?

Should the French take back the Louisiana purchase by invading the area with French people? They were there first.

Should the Native American's take back the entire country because they were here first?

No to all...and we should STOP the Hispanic invasion before it IS too late.

WHAT do they have to offer besides Mexican food? Most of it is the same few ingredients...presented...differently. Burrito, taco, chimichanga, enchilada...all the same stuff. GANGS? They do offer that. Hispanic areas are infested with dangerous gangs. Music? Hear it enough...you'll get tired of it. It's like black music...that crap gets old too. What greatness do they have to offer?

When you say "WE," just who do you mean? Are you counting all of the African American, Hispanic, Asian and other tax paying citizens of ethnicity other than whites? Are you counting women as well as men?

I know this is going to hurt you, but you can't change it. This country is, and always has been, made up of ethnic diversity, and that is going to continue to change the face of America! It's one of the things that made this country "great" long before Donald Trump suggested it wasn't.

[Don Baldwin]

When you say "WE," just who do you mean? Are you counting all of the African American, Hispanic, Asian and other tax paying citizens of ethnicity other than whites? Are you counting women as well as men?

I know this is going to hurt you, but you can't change it. This country is, and always has been, made up of ethnic diversity, and that is going to continue to change the face of America! It's one of the things that made this country "great" long before Donald Trump suggested it wasn't.

No it wasn't...it was WHITE...in fact up until the 1960s, it was 90% or more white.

You can't just make things up and call them true.

Yes, SADLY, America IS changing...it's turning 3rd world as we fill with 3rd worlders.

Are YOU happy about the change? Do you think it's GOOD for America to become a Hispanic majority?

[MDLNB]

Had Hillary been indicted and convicted then and only then would she have been incarcerated. But none of that happened so we fail to see your point!

There were no grounds to do so!

Anyone that has ever worked in law enforcement or in the State Dept would argue with you, because they know better. Hillary blatantly violated the law and even admitted it, when she said she was sorry. I excuse you for being ignorant of this because maybe you have no clue to how laws work, or just live with blinders on. Hillary is a felon and any first year lawyer could convict her if given the chance. Heck, I could convict her based only on public information available. This would be by far, the easiest conviction and shortest court time in history. Yes, that may be an exaggeration, but not far off of the mark.

[mickey100]

No it wasn't...it was WHITE...in fact up until the 1960s, it was 90% or more white.

You can't just make things up and call them true.

Yes, SADLY, America IS changing...it's turning 3rd world as we fill with 3rd worlders.

Are YOU happy about the change? Do you think it's GOOD for America to become a Hispanic majority?

You're foolish if you think things stay the same. We have become a global community, and not just the US. With new technologies, cheap airfares, the internet, the world is a different place than it was in the 60's. You can lament all you want, but it won't change things. Do yourself a favor and find the goodness in our new immigrants, and the new way of things. There are pluses and minuses to everything, and some real economic pluses to having immigrants in our country. One obvious plus is having low cost laborers available for the jobs our citizens don't want to take. Jobs like itinerant farm workers, roofers in Florida, etc. Plus you have younger workers available who are contributing tax wise to the economy as the baby boomers are retiring. I think it all balances out in the long run. And don't forget, we are a nation of immigrants. What gives you the right to say it was okay for your forebears to immigrate here, but not the new wave of immigrants? :ohdear: I think some of you people are living in the past, and need to get over yourselves.

[wjboyer1]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BREAKING: After seven years of criticizing Obamacare, Republicans couldn't even pass their OWN bill.

[Reiver]

The immigrants are fine.

It's the foreign nationals who illegally reside here that are the problem.

[dirtbanker]

You're foolish if you think things stay the same. We have become a global community, and not just the US. With new technologies, cheap airfares, the internet, the world is a different place than it was in the 60's. You can lament all you want, but it won't change things. Do yourself a favor and find the goodness in our new immigrants, and the new way of things. There are pluses and minuses to everything, and some real economic pluses to having immigrants in our country. One obvious plus is having low cost laborers available for the jobs our citizens don't want to take. Jobs like itinerant farm workers, roofers in Florida, etc. Plus you have younger workers available who are contributing tax wise to the economy as the baby boomers are retiring. I think it all balances out in the long run. And don't forget, we are a nation of immigrants. What gives you the right to say it was okay for your forebears to immigrate here, but not the new wave of immigrants? :ohdear: I think some of you people are living in the past, and need to get over yourselves.
Typical lazy don't want to work, cheap unskilled labor is what immigrants are for, share your money while I keep my teaching job liberal...

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[larbud]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BREAKING: After seven years of criticizing Obamacare, Republicans couldn't even pass their OWN bill.

That's a sign of intelligence, Arguing a valid point! FNG dip ****s passed onigrer care without reading it... NEXT!!! Maybe you should go whack off before the feelings gone...

[dave harris]

Anyone that has ever worked in law enforcement or in the State Dept would argue with you, because they know better. Hillary blatantly violated the law and even admitted it, when she said she was sorry. I excuse you for being ignorant of this because maybe you have no clue to how laws work, or just live with blinders on. Hillary is a felon and any first year lawyer could convict her if given the chance. Heck, I could convict her based only on public information available. This would be by far, the easiest conviction and shortest court time in history. Yes, that may be an exaggeration, but not far off of the mark.

Make your arrest littleman.

[dave harris]

That's a sign of intelligence, Arguing a valid point! FNG dip ****s passed onigrer care without reading it... NEXT!!! Maybe you should go whack off before the feelings gone...

Maybe you could post without using vulgarities for once. But, you have no point, you try to get attention that way. Pathetic

[autumnspring]

There's a sucker born every minute...

Did YOU vote for EITHER the D or the R?

He was talking about YOU...

RE: A SUCKER
The fact is that we will know about PT Barnum long after YOU are gone.

You clearly do nothing but tear things down. Have you EVER come up with a positive suggestion????????

RE: vOTING FOR EITHER A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN.
You might want to READ about politics in countries with more than two parties. What happens is that to get elected you need to form a coalition. Our system of government we have ONE LEADER but his or her powers are limited by both the congress and the court system.

Winston Churchill with his sharp mind and sharper wit said our republic system of government stinks BUT IT IS THE BEST THERE IS. Our country, MY COUNTRY has never had a dictator rise to power. In my opinion the closest we have had were Lincoln, FDR AND OBAMA.

HAVE YOU ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY???????

[autumnspring]

What the fusk does that have to do with sand nidgers breeding like rabbits then coming here with YOU libturds blessings to sponge off of hard working Americans???

THE FACTS-
If, you live in the Villages YOU are likely retired. You might choose to believe that the social security you paid for is sitting in a pile with your name on it. Truth is what you paid into the system was spent on the people who retired before you.
WAKE UP FROM YOUR HATE-YOU ARE SPONGING OFF CURRENT HARDWORKING AMERICANS. OH, BY THE WAY SOME OF THEM ARE BLACK, HISPANIC AND ALL THE OTHERS YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE SUPERIOR TO.

Interesting fact-blood typing was discovered by a black doctor. Surely, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE UN-TYPED BLOOD.
IT IS A VERY PAINFUL DEATH.

Truly, I wish you well-WELL THE HELL AWAY FROM ME..

[larbud]

Maybe you could post without using vulgarities for once. But, you have no point, you try to get attention that way. Pathetic

And your point? Did I not get your attention???

[Don Baldwin]

THE FACTS-
If, you live in the Villages YOU are likely retired. You might choose to believe that the social security you paid for is sitting in a pile with your name on it. Truth is what you paid into the system was spent on the people who retired before you.
WAKE UP FROM YOUR HATE-YOU ARE SPONGING OFF CURRENT HARDWORKING AMERICANS. OH, BY THE WAY SOME OF THEM ARE BLACK, HISPANIC AND ALL THE OTHERS YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE SUPERIOR TO.

Interesting fact-blood typing was discovered by a black doctor. Surely, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE UN-TYPED BLOOD.
IT IS A VERY PAINFUL DEATH.

Truly, I wish you well-WELL THE HELL AWAY FROM ME..

And did YOU know Susie...that blacks can RARELY receive organs from white people and vice versa?

Yes Susie...we are not close enough to share organs. The Red Cross, the organ donation organizations, are always trying to get minorities to donate...because we match better within race.

[autumnspring]

Why America Why?

Evidently means different things to different people. I read that caption and wonder why American politicians are so polarized that they can't or won't perform in the jobs position they were elected to uphold?

I wonder why politicians all believe its party first and the heck with voters?

I wonder if they even realize or care the danger they are placing this nation in?

I wonder if they even realize or care how foolish they make America look to the rest of the world?

Its one thing to have posters on this thread bicker back in forth but quite another when its elected officials.

Be afraid, be very afraid

Personal Best Regards:

1. For centuries people have left their homes, their families etc to come to America. Unlike in countries like north korea, Vietnam, etc, they risk their lives to get out.
2. Your comment of how foolish they make America look.
I had the same thought at times. There are countries in the world that sort of comment would put YOU in jail.
3. I too criticize BUT, IF YOU THINK IT IS SOOOO BAD-WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE???????????
4. Afraid-I am afraid that our education system has been taken over by SOCIALIST LIBERALS. I am haunted by an essay I read in high school written by Karl Marx where he said Communism will not overtake us in a war but rather they would take over our schools and they would be welcomed by our schools. THAT IS HOW WE GOT HERE.
5. TRUMP scares a lot of people. The reason is they are awakening from the drugs they were addicted to in OBAMALAND,

[autumnspring]

I know the Catholic's in my family used birth control! I am the 7th of 9 children. In the next generation the largest group is 4. My mother came from 12 the largest this generation is 3. Birth Control is common practice!

Yes there is gang violence in major cities but that has been going on for decades! I was a teenager when the riots in Newark and Washington hit one summer.

You talk a lot about the minorities and violence but nothing about the amount of guns! Why?

The simplest to answer is guns.

First of all i am an ex-new yorker. New York has had the tightest gun control laws, for the longest time in the US and yet they have one of the highest rates of shootings.

A gun is easy to make. You can buy everything you need at home depo, sears or lowes. It is just a guess and anyone making a guess usually has an ulterior motive but there are more guns in the US then there are people.

YOU hear all these stories about assault rifles. You are being fed misinformation by people that do not know what they are talking about or simply don't care what the facts are. An assault rifle is by definition automatic-you pull the trigger and it keeps shooting-THEY ARE ILLEGAL. The ones the fools scream about are LOOK A LIKES. They are semi automatic-you have to pull the trigger for each shot.

[larbud]

THE FACTS-
If, you live in the Villages YOU are likely retired. You might choose to believe that the social security you paid for is sitting in a pile with your name on it. Truth is what you paid into the system was spent on the people who retired before you.
WAKE UP FROM YOUR HATE-YOU ARE SPONGING OFF CURRENT HARDWORKING AMERICANS. OH, BY THE WAY SOME OF THEM ARE BLACK, HISPANIC AND ALL THE OTHERS YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE SUPERIOR TO.

Interesting fact-blood typing was discovered by a black doctor. Surely, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE UN-TYPED BLOOD.
IT IS A VERY PAINFUL DEATH.



Truly, I wish you well-WELL THE HELL AWAY FROM ME..


The facts maam just the facts, The social security I paid in with My Boss equaled 15 % of a lot of money.. The fact is the money We contributed to My fishing future was stolen by politicians.. Borrowed they said but never paid back.. AS far as afraid of Blacks Not!! Had a beautiful Black Lady cut Me when I had an intestinal blockage in 2007.. Best Friend is a big black Bahamian Dude even tho He developed a lot of nidger traits when onidger boy got elected..The Superiority trait belongs to you libturds.. Saying America needs no more sand nidgers with their hands out and their women pumping out little sand nidgers as fast as possible on AMERICANS dime is pure brilliant intelligence of which I 'm in possession of sh!tloads of... Next if William Lorenzo Moss the third discoverer of the blood typing system was black He was a great man for not making a big deal out of it which no Black Person ever did.. That started with the democratic invented n!gders ... Hey i'm a nidger I did something You owe me owe me owe me..**** you!

How blood types were discovered?
They were discovered in 1900 and 1901 at the University of Vienna by Karl Landsteiner in the process of trying to learn why blood transfusions sometimes cause death and at other times save a patient. In 1930, he belatedly received the Nobel Prize for his discovery of blood types.

History of discoveries of the blood types[edit]


Czech serologist Jan Janský is credited with the first classification of blood into the four types (I, II, III, IV)
The ABO blood group system is widely credited to have been discovered by the Austrian scientist Karl Landsteiner, who identified the O, A, and B blood types in 1900.[3] Landsteiner originally described the O blood type as type "C", and in parts of Europe it is rendered as "0" (zero), signifying the lack of A or B antigen. Landsteiner was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1930 for his work. Alfred von Decastello and Adriano Sturli discovered the fourth type, AB, in 1902.[4]


Ukraine marine uniform imprint, showing the wearer's blood type as "B (III) Rh+"
Due to inadequate communication at the time, it was subsequently found that the Czech serologist Jan Janský had independently pioneered the classification of human blood into four groups in 1907,[5] but Landsteiner's independent discovery had been accepted by the scientific world while Janský remained then in relative obscurity. However, in 1921 an American medical commission acknowledged Janský's classification. Jan Janský is nowadays credited with the first classification of blood into the four types (I, II, III, IV).
Janský's classification remains in use today. In Russia and states of the former USSR blood types O, A, B, and AB are respectively designated I, II, III, and IV.[6] The designation A and B with reference to blood groups was proposed by Ludwik Hirszfeld.
In America, W.L. Moss published his own (very similar) work in 1910.[7]
Ludwik Hirszfeld and E. von Dungern discovered the heritability of ABO blood groups in 1910–11. Felix Bernstein demonstrated the correct blood group inheritance pattern of multiple alleles at one locus in 1924.[8] Watkins and Morgan, in England, discovered that the ABO epitopes were conferred by sugars, to be specific, N-acetylgalactosamine for the A-type and galactose for the B-type.[9][10][11] After much published literature claiming that the ABH substances were all attached to glycosphingolipids, Finne et al. (1978) found that the human erythrocyte glycoproteins contain polylactosamine chains[12] that contains ABH substances attached and represent the majority of the antigens.[13][14][15] The main glycoproteins carrying the ABH antigens were identified to be the Band 3 and Band 4.5 proteins and glycophorin.[16] Later, Yamamoto's group showed the precise glycosyl transferase set that confers the A, B and O

[rubicon]

....You don't believe Russia attempted to sway our election with cyber crimes ?

....You do not think our country should investigate such invasion ?

....You don't believe when a sitting President accuse another President of a felony, that should be investigated ?

....You don't believe when faced with "evidence" that perhaps a campaign for President colluded with Russia it should be investigated ?

....You don't believe when a sitting President accuse our closest ally of consorting to tap the phones of a sitting President should be investigated ?

What kind of "patriot" is this ?

How would yo get to the "bottom line" you seek ?

There you go again twisting my words. Again I said I am tired of the one upmanship, tired of the partisan games. If all of what you state above is true then let the respective congressional committees investigate and decide up or down.

that is not what is going on. Progressive want a special prosecutor on the Trump wiretap/Russian connection because they know a special prosecutor will take months and months of investigating time. what really is happening is all of these Russian accusations are intentionally brought to keep a cloud over Trump's head so he is diminished (ie can't exercise is political capital). I know it and so do you. Progressive like to play coy, feign indignation, etc.

Now if Russia did interfere with our election process then why isn't Washington united in getting to the bottom of it? If Russia did interfere with our election process then the nonsense going on in Washington is playing into Russian hands.

Simply stated what my post said was serious people wold ask why. and the beat goes on............................

Personal Best Regards:

[MDLNB]

Make your arrest littleman.

Not my job little girl. Or lil' trollie.