Today I Realized The Value of Our Gates

[Rapscallion St Croix]

In our cart, heading North on BV at Hillsborough Gate. I was the fifth cart in line to cross at the gate. There were about five cars waiting to enter in resident lane. The gate attendant was enjoying an exceedingly long brain fart and left the non-resident gate arm in the up position, it took an excruciatingly long time to get across Hillsborough Trail. In anticipation of a popular retort to these sort of posts, I am not in a hurry. I just prefer to waste time sitting on a bench with a view rather than in a traffic jam wondering when my I will get my turn at avoiding being center punched by a landscaper driving a big diesel truck. Let's summarize. I am not complaining about traffic, I am advocating the continued use of gate arms controlled either electronically or by alert attendants. All-in-all, it was a great drive. Left Walgreens Mulberry Grove and went all the way to lunch at McCallister's Brownwood and back to Springdale. Including the side tracking, we covered 35 miles in the cart.

[VApeople]

Wouldn't it have been more enjoyable to drive your car?

[Villager Joyce]

Wouldn't it have been more enjoyable to drive your car?

Defeats the purpose IMHO.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Wouldn't it have been more enjoyable to drive your car?

Naw, I could have done that back in Rooster Poot.

[Nucky]

Sometimes we have to trust the person at the switch in the guardhouse. They are in contact with dispatch and may need to hold up vehicles because of an oncoming emergency vehicle or some such event that is occurring that is beyond the view of all Car/Cart drivers. There are many fine people doing a job where they are criticised and verbally abused and second guessed during their entire shift. Take it easy. I like the OP would choose the Cart every time when buzzing around.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Sometimes we have to trust the person at the switch in the guardhouse. They are in contact with dispatch and may need to hold up vehicles because of an oncoming emergency vehicle or some such event that is occurring that is beyond the view of all Car/Cart drivers. There are many fine people doing a job where they are criticised and verbally abused and second guessed during their entire shift. Take it easy. I like the OP would choose the Cart every time when buzzing around.

This attendant was not holding up cars, he was giving them a steady green light by leaving the gate arm up and they were taking full advantage of it.

[thelegges]

Wouldn't it have been more enjoyable to drive your car?

Nope car is up north, carting is one of the reasons we moved here

[joldnol]

I've had it happen to me at the sanibel gate. Laziness by the employee.

[DonH57]

Nope car is up north, carting is one of the reasons we moved here

Same here. Saving money on gasoline and much easier to park at squares and other venues. If this was not a golf cart community I can't imagine the traffic and parking nightmares to go anywhere.

[Chellybean]

let see how much trouble this starts.
Number one it is a privilege to drive a cart on the roads and they do not have the right of way.
on top of all the cart idiots that come out of the cart lane with out using there signal or yield the right of way to the cars.
again carts do not have the right of way on top of the gate attendant can't see the cross path of the golf carts and that isn't there responsibility to keep cart traffic moving but to keep cars moving.
Lets see how many angry people get pis*ed off on this comment that think carts have the right of way!

[Rapscallion St Croix]

let see how much trouble this starts.
Number one it is a privilege to drive a cart on the roads and they do not have the right of way.
on top of all the cart idiots that come out of the cart lane with out using there signal or yield the right of way to the cars.
again carts do not have the right of way on top of the gate attendant can't see the cross path of the golf carts and that isn't there responsibility to keep cart traffic moving but to keep cars moving.
Lets see how many angry people get pis*ed off on this comment that think carts have the right of way!

The only implication of carts having thr right of way is the one you are fabricating.

[justjim]

You are missing the point of having the gates. Cars are at least stopped at the gate and that allows a cart to move across safely and continue on to their destination. The gates are rammed by cars everyday here in TV. What's with that.....

[Nucky]

That was easy to criticize, did you enjoy it?
Have you ever pulled a shift on a gate in the villages?

How true Bogie. It is at times a mix of being a commodities trader and an airline traffic controller while trying to help lost people and please all the various personalities on this Terra Firma Cruise Ship. Best thing to do is chill out. :thumbup:

[VApeople]

Wouldn't it have been more enjoyable to drive your car?

Defeats the purpose IMHO.

If your purpose is to get yourself irritated like the OP, then I see your point.

[VApeople]

Same here. Saving money on gasoline and much easier to park at squares and other venues. If this was not a golf cart community I can't imagine the traffic and parking nightmares to go anywhere.

Parking nightmares? Where? Every time we go to the squares, there are lots of parking spaces, like the ones right behind the Sales Center at LSL.

[Mrs. Robinson]

In our cart, heading North on BV at Hillsborough Gate. I was the fifth cart in line to cross at the gate. There were about five cars waiting to enter in resident lane. The gate attendant was enjoying an exceedingly long brain fart and left the non-resident gate arm in the up position, it took an excruciatingly long time to get across Hillsborough Trail. In anticipation of a popular retort to these sort of posts, I am not in a hurry. I just prefer to waste time sitting on a bench with a view rather than in a traffic jam wondering when my I will get my turn at avoiding being center punched by a landscaper driving a big diesel truck. Let's summarize. I am not complaining about traffic, I am advocating the continued use of gate arms controlled either electronically or by alert attendants. All-in-all, it was a great drive. Left Walgreens Mulberry Grove and went all the way to lunch at McCallister's Brownwood and back to Springdale. Including the side tracking, we covered 35 miles in the cart.

Okay. I just read your post and still don't know what it is that made you "realize the value of the gates????"

[rcook715]

In our cart, heading North on BV at Hillsborough Gate. I was the fifth cart in line to cross at the gate. There were about five cars waiting to enter in resident lane. The gate attendant was enjoying an exceedingly long brain fart and left the non-resident gate arm in the up position, it took an excruciatingly long time to get across Hillsborough Trail. In anticipation of a popular retort to these sort of posts, I am not in a hurry. I just prefer to waste time sitting on a bench with a view rather than in a traffic jam wondering when my I will get my turn at avoiding being center punched by a landscaper driving a big diesel truck. Let's summarize. I am not complaining about traffic, I am advocating the continued use of gate arms controlled either electronically or by alert attendants. All-in-all, it was a great drive. Left Walgreens Mulberry Grove and went all the way to lunch at McCallister's Brownwood and back to Springdale. Including the side tracking, we covered 35 miles in the cart.

Nice day for an otherwise enjoyable drive- fresh air great views and loving the life!

[Arctic Fox]

Okay. I just read your post and still don't know what it is that made you "realize the value of the gates????"

When operated as they are supposed to be, they regulate the flow of all traffic so that neither cars nor golf carts are delayed too long.

[Chellybean]

when operated as they are supposed to be, they regulate the flow of all traffic so that neither cars nor golf carts are delayed too long.

well said!

[roob1]

let see how much trouble this starts.
Number one it is a privilege to drive a cart on the roads and they do not have the right of way.
on top of all the cart idiots that come out of the cart lane with out using there signal or yield the right of way to the cars.
again carts do not have the right of way on top of the gate attendant can't see the cross path of the golf carts and that isn't there responsibility to keep cart traffic moving but to keep cars moving.
Lets see how many angry people get pis*ed off on this comment that think carts have the right of way!

No one "has" the right of way until it is given to them.

[Taltarzac725]

In our cart, heading North on BV at Hillsborough Gate. I was the fifth cart in line to cross at the gate. There were about five cars waiting to enter in resident lane. The gate attendant was enjoying an exceedingly long brain fart and left the non-resident gate arm in the up position, it took an excruciatingly long time to get across Hillsborough Trail. In anticipation of a popular retort to these sort of posts, I am not in a hurry. I just prefer to waste time sitting on a bench with a view rather than in a traffic jam wondering when my I will get my turn at avoiding being center punched by a landscaper driving a big diesel truck. Let's summarize. I am not complaining about traffic, I am advocating the continued use of gate arms controlled either electronically or by alert attendants. All-in-all, it was a great drive. Left Walgreens Mulberry Grove and went all the way to lunch at McCallister's Brownwood and back to Springdale. Including the side tracking, we covered 35 miles in the cart.

That's quite far. You must have a gas golf cart?

Maybe the attendant fell asleep at the wheel? LOL.

[2BNTV]

Maybe the attendant needed to use the restroom?

I know they leave them up when they have a pressing need.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

That's quite far. You must have a gas golf cart?

Maybe the attendant fell asleep at the wheel? LOL.

Gas cart and we topped it off at the Shell where they sell the big burgers on the way down....didn't really need to but my wife is "cautious".

[Pointer]

Maybe the attendant needed to use the restroom?

I know they leave them up when they have a pressing need.

I like the way you think. I'm always looking for a possible reason for whatever is going on thats out of the ordinary. There usually is an explanation that makes sense to the other persons point of view. None of us are without the ability to make mistakes.

Personally I'm glad that we have the gates and the 35 speed limit. They allow us to mingle in many modes of transportation, and I'll admit it, time to think hey where am I going ? . . oh yeah that's right mailbox, Oh but look at that bird and that biker.

I do wonder at the complacency of some golf cart drivers that merge without hand signals or worry that they might be in a cars blind spot. Not much protection in a cart vs car situation. All in all I'd say we do pretty darn well at it all.

[dmorhome]

Maybe if the gate house operator's told the vehicles to pull up to gate and then they opened it we would stand a chance,no they open it while they are coming through the guest gate lane and they fly by.Think the villages need to give these people a refresher course before someone gets t-boned.

[JoMar]

That's quite far. You must have a gas golf cart?

Maybe the attendant fell asleep at the wheel? LOL.

Not that far for an electric either....it's when you push 50 miles that electric can get a little scary. Unless of course, you are driving one of the older electrics, then it's scary all the time. We have two electrics and no distance anxiety...so far.

[WhoDat]

My bigger concern is the crossing at Morse and Bonita where there is no gate. Cars fly through there with nothing to slow them down. This is the only entrance into TV where there is a cart crossing with no gate that I know of.

[Bosoxfan]

Wouldn't it have been more enjoyable to drive your car?

Why live in a golf cart community if you're going to drive your car everywhere.? Never understand people saying if it's more then a 20 minute ride I'll take the car. You see things in your cart you'll never see in a car. People that need to use their cars are the same folks that never stop & smell the roses...JMHO

[Topspinmo]

let see how much trouble this starts.
Number one it is a privilege to drive a cart on the roads and they do not have the right of way.
on top of all the cart idiots that come out of the cart lane with out using there signal or yield the right of way to the cars.
again carts do not have the right of way on top of the gate attendant can't see the cross path of the golf carts and that isn't there responsibility to keep cart traffic moving but to keep cars moving.
Lets see how many angry people get pis*ed off on this comment that think carts have the right of way!


Ok let's talk about the idiots in cars. You know the ones that change lanes in roundabout, stop in roundabouts , exit from the right lane at the 3rd exit of roundabout. Don't stop at 4 way stop signs, but stop when entering roundabout when NO traffic coming in the roundabout. Not using blinker lights. IMO safe to say there enough idiots to go around. This golf cart community safety is shared, gates left open is not in the best interest of this community, especially during snowbird season.

[VApeople]

Why live in a golf cart community if you're going to drive your car everywhere.?

A 'golf cart community'? Are we required to own and drive a golf cart?

We love living in TV and we like driving our car everywhere we need to go. The golf carts do not bother us at all. When we are in our car, we have no fear of being hit by a cart.

[RickeyD]

Why live in a golf cart community if you're going to drive your car everywhere.? Never understand people saying if it's more then a 20 minute ride I'll take the car. You see things in your cart you'll never see in a car. People that need to use their cars are the same folks that never stop & smell the roses...JMHO



I love my cart, but...I have a need for speed, hauling, and keeping the wife happy.

[dmorhome]

they open gates as soon as someone gets in that line,why don't they stop them, tell them to pull up to gate so they then can see the carts and then open it.at least then carts and vehicles can see each other.

[Chellybean]

Ok let's talk about the idiots in cars. You know the ones that change lanes in roundabout, stop in roundabouts , exit from the right lane at the 3rd exit of roundabout. Don't stop at 4 way stop signs, but stop when entering roundabout when NO traffic coming in the roundabout. Not using blinker lights. IMO safe to say there enough idiots to go around. This golf cart community safety is shared, gates left open is not in the best interest of this community, especially during snowbird season.

Ok i agree there are idiots in cars as well but golf carts playing chicken with cars is not a smart move when merging into traffic without signaling or yielding when they don't have the right of way.

[karostay]

Me me me i i i

[Lindaketchup]

Wouldn't it have been more enjoyable to drive your car?

Absolutely NOT!!! Part of what makes the villages great is being able to take your cart. :pepper2:

[kman32446]

I think you have it wrong Chellybean. It has nothing to do with who has the right of way. It has to do with respect and courtesy of the roads. I have witnessed cars speeding up when cart paths join the roads just so they don't have to end up behind the cart and I have seen carts pull out in front of cars just so the car can't pass them. It is the job of every driver, car or cart, to be responsible on the roads.

[Barefoot]

Ok i agree there are idiots in cars as well but golf carts playing chicken with cars is not a smart move when merging into traffic without signaling or yielding when they don't have the right of way.It is scary how many golf-cart drivers decide at the last minute to make a left turn without signalling.
Perhaps they are newbies or renters who aren't sure where they're going.
We need to be especially vigilant at this time of year; and we all need to work together to protect these people from themselves.

[golfing eagles]

My bigger concern is the crossing at Morse and Bonita where there is no gate. Cars fly through there with nothing to slow them down. This is the only entrance into TV where there is a cart crossing with no gate that I know of.

Old Mill Run at BV

[DonH57]

Be very, very cautious crossing behind broken gates with the stop signs. Some cars will not stop and don't slow down regardless of what's behind the gate and some don't care!

[robinsdw2]

let see how much trouble this starts.
Number one it is a privilege to drive a cart on the roads and they do not have the right of way.
on top of all the cart idiots that come out of the cart lane with out using there signal or yield the right of way to the cars.
again carts do not have the right of way on top of the gate attendant can't see the cross path of the golf carts and that isn't there responsibility to keep cart traffic moving but to keep cars moving.
Lets see how many angry people get pis*ed off on this comment that think carts have the right of way!
Couldn't agree more, a golf cart does not have the right of way. How many times do you have to tell people that if a car and golf cart tangle, guess who wins......

[Dave@TV]

I think if you talk with the gate attendants you will find that their job is to keep automobile traffic flowing through the gates. If there is a backup of autos/trucks at the gate, they are the priority, not golf cars at the crossing. I personally don't like having to wait forever to cross at some of the gates, but accept it as a part of living here. I always seem to be able to get where I want within a reasonable time.

[Island57]

Exactly!

[LynnWM158]

Thank you for posting this. I have a complaint, as well as a compliment, about the gates. When a resident is almost through the gate area some of the attendants will open the guest gate at the same time. Usually these are construction trucks and they drive through making the resident pause mid-way to let the truck pass. I'm going to be really mad if the gate crashes down on the back of my car. On the compliment side, these gates have probably saved life and limb of some in golf carts. IMHO the gate keepers need training on keeping the gate!

[Chellybean]

Thank you for posting this. I have a complaint, as well as a compliment, about the gates. When a resident is almost through the gate area some of the attendants will open the guest gate at the same time. Usually these are construction trucks and they drive through making the resident pause mid-way to let the truck pass. I'm going to be really mad if the gate crashes down on the back of my car. On the compliment side, these gates have probably saved life and limb of some in golf carts. IMHO the gate keepers need training on keeping the gate!

i have also experienced the same thing and during the season we all need to be careful.'
Unfortunately the residents are left the burden to watch out for the visitors.

[BobnBev]

It is scary how many golf-cart drivers decide at the last minute to make a left turn without signalling.
Perhaps they are newbies or renters who aren't sure where they're going.
We need to be especially vigilant at this time of year; and we all need to work together to protect these people from themselves.


I watched 2 today.:22yikes:

[bunnyhop]

Gate attendants are required to allow the Visitor gate to start back down prior to allowing another vehicle though. Gate attendants do not regularly operate the Resident gate. The resident controls the Resident gate. The gate attendant will typically only operate the Resident gate if traffic is backing up into the roundabouts or intersections. They are not permitted to have traffic back up into those areas. Vehicles have the right-of-way. Even when traffic backs up, it never takes very long for it to clear for carts to cross. Carts should NEVER cross when a gate is up unless they are absolutely positive that it is completely safe to do so. I recently saw a rental cart with teenagers shoot across a busy gate right in front of a vehicle. If the driver hadn’t slammed on the brakes, it could have been a terrible disaster. The gates are there because the Develop is contractually &/or legally required to have them. Most gate attendants are very good. A few are not. If you encounter a problem, call Community Watch to let them know (date, time, gate, etc.). They are there for your safety and to control traffic flow as required. Again … vehicles have the right of way. Be kind. :-)

[bunnyhop]

they open gates as soon as someone gets in that line,why don't they stop them, tell them to pull up to gate so they then can see the carts and then open it.at least then carts and vehicles can see each other.

Vehicles have the right of way. Traffic flow from the main roads are priority. If the gate is up, just wait until it closes. It doesn't take very long for traffic to move along.

[bunnyhop]

No one "has" the right of way until it is given to them.

Legally, vehicles have the right of way. Not carts.:police:

[biker1]

It depends on the circumstance. You can not make a blanket statement. If carts are at a stop sign at the gates then cars have the right of way. You need to define the context.

Legally, vehicles have the right of way. Not carts.:police:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Legally, vehicles have the right of way. Not carts.:police:

Actually, Florida Law does not specify rights of way. It only addresses yielding.

[OhioBuckeye]

In our cart, heading North on BV at Hillsborough Gate. I was the fifth cart in line to cross at the gate. There were about five cars waiting to enter in resident lane. The gate attendant was enjoying an exceedingly long brain fart and left the non-resident gate arm in the up position, it took an excruciatingly long time to get across Hillsborough Trail. In anticipation of a popular retort to these sort of posts, I am not in a hurry. I just prefer to waste time sitting on a bench with a view rather than in a traffic jam wondering when my I will get my turn at avoiding being center punched by a landscaper driving a big diesel truck. Let's summarize. I am not complaining about traffic, I am advocating the continued use of gate arms controlled either electronically or by alert attendants. All-in-all, it was a great drive. Left Walgreens Mulberry Grove and went all the way to lunch at McCallister's Brownwood and back to Springdale. Including the side tracking, we covered 35 miles in the cart.

You know I bet if one car would of stopped & let a couple of carts go thru, I can just about bet you that someone in a car would of started blowing their horn. At 466/Morse road gate one of the gate attendants did it there when I was waiting to cross & someone was nice enough to let me cross the road & someone 3 cars behind them was in a hurry & just laid on the horn & the person that let me cross stuck their arm out the window & gave that person the one finger THANK YOU. I had to laugh & wish I could of hugged this person!

[DonH57]

You know I bet if one car would of stopped & let a couple of carts go thru, I can just about bet you that someone in a car would of started blowing their horn. At 466/Morse road gate one of the gate attendants did it there when I was waiting to cross & someone was nice enough to let me cross the road & someone 3 cars behind them was in a hurry & just laid on the horn & the person that let me cross stuck their arm out the window & gave that person the one finger THANK YOU. I had to laugh & wish I could of hugged this person!

Well, as you know the horn blower was one of the special ones who's life totally interrupted schedule was delayed by a mere 10 seconds because how dare someone get in their way.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Wouldn't it have been more enjoyable to drive your car?

Why would you want to drive a car when you can drive your golf cart?

[joldnol]

Well, as you know the horn blower was one of the special ones who's life totally interrupted schedule was delayed by a mere 10 seconds because how dare someone get in their way.

one doesn't have the right to break the law just to get warm fuzzies from the golf cart driver. Just obey the traffic law and one won't get honked at.

[DonH57]

one doesn't have the right to break the law just to get warm fuzzies from the golf cart driver. Just obey the traffic law and one won't get honked at.

? Not expecting warm fuzzies from other drivers. I never understood the impatience demonstated by drivers here in the villages. Aren't we retired and in a better position in life for time management of our day.:confused:

[Nucky]

Listen to Don....Take it easy.

[RickeyD]

? Not expecting warm fuzzies from other drivers. I never understood the impatience demonstated by drivers here in the villages. Aren't we retired and in a better position in life for time management of our day.:confused:



Successful people live here. Successful people are type A. Patience is not a virtue, it's an impediment.

[VApeople]

Why would you want to drive a car when you can drive your golf cart?

I recall reading a post by one unhappy resident who complained about the difficulty of driving a cart along Morse just north of 466. He said every day a car will pass within a foot of his cart.

[DonH57]

Why would you want to drive a car when you can drive your golf cart?

I know we do. I just find it a lot easier to get around in a cart to sight see and find parking. We've saved a ton on gas. I could not imagine how congested the villages would be if you had to drive your car to go play golf, tennis, pickleball, the pool, or do any thing else. :pepper2:

[ColdNoMore]

I know we do. I just find it a lot easier to get around in a cart to sight see and find parking. We've saved a ton on gas. I could not imagine how congested the villages would be if you had to drive your car to go play golf, tennis, pickleball, the pool, or do any thing else. :pepper2:

Very true.

I can't even imagine the automobile congestion, if there wasn't such a great MMP/street option for golf carts. :oops:

[Pietrina1]

Yep, Sanibel gate. Almost got clipped there a few times. The cars that he lets thru speed up although I am already half out of the gate.

[OhioBuckeye]

Well, as you know the horn blower was one of the special ones who's life totally interrupted schedule was delayed by a mere 10 seconds because how dare someone get in their way.

You pretty much summed it up DONH57! :BigApplause:

[OhioBuckeye]

? Not expecting warm fuzzies from other drivers. I never understood the impatience demonstated by drivers here in the villages. Aren't we retired and in a better position in life for time management of our day.:confused:

You know I'm not knocking the the person who let 1 or 2 carts cross the rd. out of 10. I'm applauding the person in the car. I agree again with you comment DONH57, we're retired & I can't believe anybody is in that big of a hurry to get home & flop on the couch or left their house late to get to their tee time. Yes, we're suppose to be in a better position than that!

[joldnol]

Why is the typical response "what's your rush?". Why is it your business? Just follow the damn law (especially if you are in the passing lane and folks are passing you in the right lane, you are illegally impeding traffic). No one appointed you guys as traffic monitors.

[Polar Bear]

Why is the typical response "what's your rush?". Why is it your business? Just follow the damn law (especially if you are in the passing lane and folks are passing you in the right lane, you are illegally impeding traffic). No one appointed you guys as traffic monitors.
Gotta say I largely agree with this. I don't always get irritated at a simple (misguided) attempt at courtesy. But when I do, it has nothing to do with being in a rush. I just find myself wondering if the do-gooder thinks themselves better than everybody else, is simply totally ignorant of the law and right-of-way issues, or is using some other equally false rationale for their actions.

[DonH57]

Why is the typical response "what's your rush?". Why is it your business? Just follow the damn law (especially if you are in the passing lane and folks are passing you in the right lane, you are illegally impeding traffic). No one appointed you guys as traffic monitors.

Oh. I'm not a traffic monitor. I'm just an traffic observer. I just observe how others handle their driving tempers and react with a huge smile and wave.

[Polar Bear]

Oh. I'm not a traffic monitor. I'm just an traffic observer. I just observe how others handle their driving tempers and react with a huge smile and wave.
Understandable of course...since few others have the same perspective you do, with your view being from so far above everybody else's. :) :wave:

[Barefoot]

Why is the typical response "what's your rush?". Why is it your business? Just follow the damn law (especially if you are in the passing lane and folks are passing you in the right lane, you are illegally impeding traffic). No one appointed you guys as traffic monitors. Joldnol makes a good point - just follow the law!

[cquick]

I recall reading a post by one unhappy resident who complained about the difficulty of driving a cart along Morse just north of 466. He said every day a car will pass within a foot of his cart.

yes that area of The Villages is very poorly designed for autos, golf carts and pedestrians!:police:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

yes that area of The Villages is very poorly designed for autos, golf carts and pedestrians!:police:

I think the post you are quoting was meant as a gotcha.

[JoMar]

Gotta say I largely agree with this. I don't always get irritated at a simple (misguided) attempt at courtesy. But when I do, it has nothing to do with being in a rush. I just find myself wondering if the do-gooder thinks themselves better than everybody else, is simply totally ignorant of the law and right-of-way issues, or is using some other equally false rationale for their actions.

And of course you are the difinitive expert on what is misguided or not.....my belief is that those that continue to take their opinion of right of way or the law or condem do gooders are the ones that think themselves better than everybody else and use their belief as a rationale for their actions. Using "the law" to support their positons is ok if you obey every other law on the books, turn signals and stop signs come to mind, otherwise you are no different than others that pick and choose what laws suit them.

[joldnol]

And of course you are the difinitive expert on what is misguided or not.....my belief is that those that continue to take their opinion of right of way or the law or condem do gooders are the ones that think themselves better than everybody else and use their belief as a rationale for their actions. Using "the law" to support their positons is ok if you obey every other law on the books, turn signals and stop signs come to mind, otherwise you are no different than others that pick and choose what laws suit them.

One is not a "do gooder" if they are illegally impeding traffic. The do gooder needs a ticket.

[Chellybean]

one is not a "do gooder" if they are illegally impeding traffic. The do gooder needs a ticket.

amen!!!!!!

[Mikeod]

And of course you are the difinitive expert on what is misguided or not.....my belief is that those that continue to take their opinion of right of way or the law or condem do gooders are the ones that think themselves better than everybody else and use their belief as a rationale for their actions. Using "the law" to support their positons is ok if you obey every other law on the books, turn signals and stop signs come to mind, otherwise you are no different than others that pick and choose what laws suit them.
Forget which laws or right of way. Waving carts across creates a dangerous situation then and in the future. There are cart operators who think those crossing lanes give them the same rights as pedestrians and assume cars will yield to them. They saw it happen at the gates other times, so it must be true. It also creates confusion when the cart driver sees a car stop. Is it safe to go or not. Then both start to move, then both stop. You go. No, you go. Then the time when a cart is waved across only to have to stop for the car going the other way. I don't know about you, but I'd rather wait on the MMP, than halfway across the intersection.
About the only time I can see waving a cart across is when the traffic exiting the gate is so backed up that nothing is moving and allowing a cart to cross makes sense. But stopping a line of traffic that is moving is not a good or courteous thing to do.