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wjboyer1
03-25-2017, 04:57 PM
Watch: 'The Trump Song,' a parody of The Village People's 'YMCA' / Boing Boing (http://boingboing.net/2017/02/28/watch-the-trump-song-a-parod.html)

ColdNoMore
03-25-2017, 06:10 PM
Watch: 'The Trump Song,' a parody of The Village People's 'YMCA' / Boing Boing (http://boingboing.net/2017/02/28/watch-the-trump-song-a-parod.html)

:1rotfl: :1rotfl:


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rubicon
03-26-2017, 02:46 PM
Watch: 'The Trump Song,' a parody of The Village People's 'YMCA' / Boing Boing (http://boingboing.net/2017/02/28/watch-the-trump-song-a-parod.html)

Dear Guest:

you may want to hold off on your glee and self satisfaction as to the response from these foreigners. Judge Derrick Watson, hero of the progressive elite class, et al has for political reasons only placed America in a poor light by falsely claiming Trump's travel ban as being discriminatory against Muslims.

It certainly makes it easier for our enemies .

Progressives' effusions are undermining our nation's image and its very dangerous.

Personal Best Regards:

Taltarzac725
03-26-2017, 02:57 PM
Dear Guest:

you may want to hold off on your glee and self satisfaction as to the response from these foreigners. Judge Derrick Watson, hero of the progressive elite class, et al has for political reasons only placed America in a poor light by falsely claiming Trump's travel ban as being discriminatory against Muslims.

It certainly makes it easier for our enemies .

Progressives' effusions are undermining our nation's image and its very dangerous.

Personal Best Regards:

It makes is easier for our enemies just to have Donald Trump give them such a weapon for their propaganda as his extremely stupid over-broad discriminatory ban as the one he tried to put into place.

And many people will now have to look out for the terrorist who looks like their next door neighbor because of how idiotic Donald Trump is.

MDLNB
03-26-2017, 03:05 PM
It makes is easier for our enemies just to have Donald Trump give them such a weapon for their propaganda as his extremely stupid over-broad discriminatory ban as the one he tried to put into place.

And many people will now have to look out for the terrorist who looks like their next door neighbor because of how idiotic Donald Trump is.

Obviously, you are ignorant and do not read or listen to any accurately related news sources. Otherwise, you must have a form of tourettes syndrome to make such a ludicrous comment. Discriminating against terrorists is not a bad thing to most Americans. Hopefully, you and your ilk will wake up to the real world some day and realize that you can not depend on the good nature of people to keep you safe when you have radicals wishing to destroy you. Hey, I have an idea. Take a little trip to Iraq some time and talk to a few folks there. Or, if that is too dangerous, then go to Israel and see if you are not laughed all the way back to your plane home.

dave harris
03-26-2017, 05:29 PM
Dear Guest:

you may want to hold off on your glee and self satisfaction as to the response from these foreigners. Judge Derrick Watson, hero of the progressive elite class, et al has for political reasons only placed America in a poor light by falsely claiming Trump's travel ban as being discriminatory against Muslims.

It certainly makes it easier for our enemies .

Progressives' effusions are undermining our nation's image and its very dangerous.

Personal Best Regards:

"claiming Trump's travel ban as being discriminatory against Muslims."


"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck"

Reiver
03-26-2017, 06:43 PM
"claiming Trump's travel ban as being discriminatory against Muslims."
"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck"

Since 13% of the worlds muslims were affected, a proper analogy would be:
"If it swims then it is without a doubt a duck."

Taltarzac725
03-26-2017, 06:59 PM
Since 13% of the worlds muslims were affected, a proper analogy would be:
"If it swims then it is without a doubt a duck."

Nice.

MDLNB
03-27-2017, 05:31 AM
The great socialist president FDR banned Japanese travel. Did that include all Buddhists or orientals?

Taltarzac725
03-27-2017, 06:55 AM
The great socialist president FDR banned Japanese travel. Did that include all Buddhists or orientals?

We were at war with Japan at the time. We are not at war with any single country nor religion now but with an ideology and fanatics who use violence to try to get their way whatever that may be.

And FDR's decision was a very poor one.

MDLNB
03-27-2017, 07:37 AM
We were at war with Japan at the time. We are not at war with any single country nor religion now but with an ideology and fanatics who use violence to try to get their way whatever that may be.

And FDR's decision was a very poor one.

Says the great pacifist expert.
And we are at war with terrorism, so you should probably not forget it. Even if you do enjoy the safety and protect due to our patriotic members of the armed forces.

Putting a temporary ban on travel from certain countries is not something that Trump wants to do to make you mad. It's for your safety. It has nothing to do with a religion, because if it did it would ban half the countries in the world.

ColdNoMore
03-27-2017, 09:18 AM
Says the great pacifist expert.
And we are at war with terrorism, so you should probably not forget it. Even if you do enjoy the safety and protect due to our patriotic members of the armed forces.

Putting a temporary ban on travel from certain countries is not something that Trump wants to do to make you mad. It's for your safety. It has nothing to do with a religion, because if it did it would ban half the countries in the world.

Bullchit.

If he wanted to "keep us safe," he would lead the charge on mandatory 5 year sentencing for ANY DUI convictions.

THAT is what is 100's of times more likely to kill you...than a terrorist from one of those countries. :oops:

This is simply playing to the ignorant base, who are bigots/hypocrites...toward a religion.



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

wjboyer1
03-27-2017, 03:26 PM
The great socialist president FDR banned Japanese travel. Did that include all Buddhists or orientals?

ACTUALLY, IT INCLUDED INUITS: THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE
(NATIVES) WHO LIVED IN ALASKA......IN ADDITION TO JAPANESE AMERICANS, GERMAN AMERICANS, ITALIAN AMERICANS IN ADDITION TO LEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM THOSE COUNTRIES. AND OH, BY-THE-WAY, THE TERM "ORIENTAL" IS A MISNOMER. THOSE INDIVIDUALS FROM ASIA, AND THEIR ANCESTORS, ARE NOW REFERRED TO AS "ASIANS".

Mistakes that the American Government (including Presidents) that happened 70 years ago and are totally in the light of day suggest strongly that the history of America, sometimes not the most honorable, should be studied so that similar mistakes do not happen again. Asserting today's blame for yesteryears missteps is akin to being uneducated, and utterly idiotic.

Taltarzac725
03-27-2017, 03:32 PM
Says the great pacifist expert.
And we are at war with terrorism, so you should probably not forget it. Even if you do enjoy the safety and protect due to our patriotic members of the armed forces.

Putting a temporary ban on travel from certain countries is not something that Trump wants to do to make you mad. It's for your safety. It has nothing to do with a religion, because if it did it would ban half the countries in the world.

And how many of the Top Brass like Donald Trump's brainless ban? It gave a huge victory to the terrorists to use in their propaganda war against us.

wjboyer1
03-27-2017, 03:33 PM
says the great pacifist expert.
And we are at war with terrorism, so you should probably not forget it. Even if you do enjoy the safety and protect due to our patriotic members of the armed forces.

Putting a temporary ban on travel from certain countries is not something that trump wants to do to make you mad. It's for your safety. It has nothing to do with a religion, because if it did it would ban half the countries in the world.

OK, did we put a travel ban on Irish when there was huge terrorist involvement in both Britain and Ireland because of the IRA? No, we did not. I actually like the Brit who, on TV during an interview said that she, among other Brits, would not let terrorism beat them down. They have courage and know that the incidents that happen, although tragic, should not and will not dampen their resolve to remain free. Your safety is more at risk because of an american firing a gun and killing you, a drunk in a care killing you, of a shark attack killing you, of lightning striking you and killing you than being a victim of a terrorist attack.

Your paranoia is really only racism and you must be so proud of actually making the American dream an American nightmare.....

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Rockyrd
03-27-2017, 03:52 PM
OK, did we put a travel ban on Irish when there was huge terrorist involvement in both Britain and Ireland because of the IRA? No, we did not. I actually like the Brit who, on TV during an interview said that she, among other Brits, would not let terrorism beat them down. They have courage and know that the incidents that happen, although tragic, should not and will not dampen their resolve to remain free. Your safety is more at risk because of an american firing a gun and killing you, a drunk in a care killing you, of a shark attack killing you, of lightning striking you and killing you than being a victim of a terrorist attack.

Your paranoia is really only racism and you must be so proud of actually making the American dream an American nightmare.....

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Good post.

My concerns on this ban are a little different.

I understand the concern for Islamic terrorism. BUT we have been told a few things that just do not add up. First, we excluded Turkey from the list. If you research, you will find Turkey is about 100% Muslim, and maybe the centerpiece for terrorism activity.

Secondly, we are told this is a TEMPORARY BAN while the vetting process is insured to be rigerous. When will we hear about the results of the vetting process study, and who is doing that study ? From every expert I have heard our vetting is just about second to none.

I do agree that the paranoia is simply racism. This is not new your country, as you point ou, and we are not perfect, but how many days, months, years have we listened to our President tell us how bad Mexicans were, Muslims are bad. I hope we are not that weak to succumb to a candidate being able to tell us whom we should hate.

RickeyD
03-27-2017, 03:59 PM
We were at war with Japan at the time. We are not at war with any single country nor religion now but with an ideology and fanatics who use violence to try to get their way whatever that may be.



And FDR's decision was a very poor one.



Completely agree with FDR's decision regarding the Japanese internment. We were at war, they sank our carriers and attacked us first. California and the entire west coast was in imminent danger of being attacked. His decision was based on the current events and feelings at that time.
Also, Italian & German Americans were interned as well albeit not on the same scale.

wjboyer1
03-27-2017, 11:55 PM
Completely agree with FDR's decision regarding the Japanese internment. We were at war, they sank our carriers and attacked us first. California and the entire west coast was in imminent danger of being attacked. His decision was based on the current events and feelings at that time.
Also, Italian & German Americans were interned as well albeit not on the same scale.

Perhaps you should study your military history better. NO CARRIERS were sunk at Pearl Harbor. It would have taken Japan their entire Navy to have launched an attack on California, but, of course, America did not know that...his decision was a terrible reaction that we should not let happen again....

Don Baldwin
03-28-2017, 06:45 AM
OK, did we put a travel ban on Irish when there was huge terrorist involvement in both Britain and Ireland because of the IRA? No, we did not. I actually like the Brit who, on TV during an interview said that she, among other Brits, would not let terrorism beat them down. They have courage and know that the incidents that happen, although tragic, should not and will not dampen their resolve to remain free. Your safety is more at risk because of an american firing a gun and killing you, a drunk in a care killing you, of a shark attack killing you, of lightning striking you and killing you than being a victim of a terrorist attack.

Your paranoia is really only racism and you must be so proud of actually making the American dream an American nightmare.....

67177

The Irish had no beef with America...it was a local problem. Muslims DO have a problem with America.

Maybe so...but we DO work to PREVENT those things for happening...we've confined most of the minorities into the inner city slums where they only kill each other. We're aggressive with drunk driving...when IS the last time you heard of a drunk driver killing someone around here? For sharks, they watch and post signs, keep people out of the water. We're always being warned about lightning and the dangers, told to go indoors when lightning is close. So why not warn about possible terrorism? We did have 911.

I don't think so...I don't think "we" are making America a nightmare...that is the doing of the 51% percent minority population that has dragged the country down from #1 in the 50s to #25 now as THEY become the majority. Your fears are misplaced.

Completely agree with FDR's decision regarding the Japanese internment. We were at war, they sank our carriers and attacked us first. California and the entire west coast was in imminent danger of being attacked. His decision was based on the current events and feelings at that time.
Also, Italian & German Americans were interned as well albeit not on the same scale.

It was ALLOWED to happen...we KNEW it was coming...they wanted into the war and they knew this would be the key.

wjboyer1
03-28-2017, 06:24 PM
the irish had no beef with america...it was a local problem. Muslims do have a problem with america.

Maybe so...but we do work to prevent those things for happening...we've confined most of the minorities into the inner city slums where they only kill each other. We're aggressive with drunk driving...when is the last time you heard of a drunk driver killing someone around here? For sharks, they watch and post signs, keep people out of the water. We're always being warned about lightning and the dangers, told to go indoors when lightning is close. So why not warn about possible terrorism? We did have 911.

I don't think so...i don't think "we" are making america a nightmare...that is the doing of the 51% percent minority population that has dragged the country down from #1 in the 50s to #25 now as they become the majority. Your fears are misplaced.



It was allowed to happen...we knew it was coming...they wanted into the war and they knew this would be the key.

67212Muslims seem to have more problem with other Muslims worldwide, than America...

67213Of course, money talks, even when coming from Muslims

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wjboyer1
03-28-2017, 11:27 PM
the irish had no beef with america...it was a local problem. Muslims do have a problem with america.

Maybe so...but we do work to prevent those things for happening...we've confined most of the minorities into the inner city slums where they only kill each other. We're aggressive with drunk driving...when is the last time you heard of a drunk driver killing someone around here? For sharks, they watch and post signs, keep people out of the water. We're always being warned about lightning and the dangers, told to go indoors when lightning is close. So why not warn about possible terrorism? We did have 911.

I don't think so...i don't think "we" are making america a nightmare...that is the doing of the 51% percent minority population that has dragged the country down from #1 in the 50s to #25 now as they become the majority. Your fears are misplaced.



It was allowed to happen...we knew it was coming...they wanted into the war and they knew this would be the key.


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MDLNB
03-29-2017, 06:24 AM
OK, did we put a travel ban on Irish when there was huge terrorist involvement in both Britain and Ireland because of the IRA? No, we did not. I actually like the Brit who, on TV during an interview said that she, among other Brits, would not let terrorism beat them down. They have courage and know that the incidents that happen, although tragic, should not and will not dampen their resolve to remain free. Your safety is more at risk because of an american firing a gun and killing you, a drunk in a care killing you, of a shark attack killing you, of lightning striking you and killing you than being a victim of a terrorist attack.

Your paranoia is really only racism and you must be so proud of actually making the American dream an American nightmare.....

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Sorry, but I do not remember any IRA terrorist attacks on American soil. Perhaps you can enlighten us.

YOu do realize that your comment is just plain stupid, right?

Reiver
03-29-2017, 11:47 AM
America and the IRA were essentially on the same side, fighting the same enemy, but they had very poor timing.
Almost exactly 100 years too late...

wjboyer1
03-29-2017, 04:32 PM
Sorry, but I do not remember any IRA terrorist attacks on American soil. Perhaps you can enlighten us.

YOu do realize that your comment is just plain stupid, right?


And the few "Radical Islamic Terrorists" that actually did harm on American soil came from countries that Trump excluded from his travel ban.....go figure, and I realize your comment is just plain stupid....

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Reiver
03-29-2017, 05:41 PM
Hmm. John Stuart Mill...
"I have no difficulty in admitting that Communism would even now be practicable among the elite of mankind, and may become so among the rest."

MDLNB
03-30-2017, 09:24 AM
And the few "Radical Islamic Terrorists" that actually did harm on American soil came from countries that Trump excluded from his travel ban.....go figure, and I realize your comment is just plain stupid....

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67234

Did you intend to reply to my comment or are you still confused with the answer I gave? My comment was referring to the "IRA" point, in case that went over your head. Wow! Apparently, if you have no clue how to participate in the discussion, you just divert.

MDLNB
03-30-2017, 09:30 AM
Perhaps you should study your military history better. NO CARRIERS were sunk at Pearl Harbor. It would have taken Japan their entire Navy to have launched an attack on California, but, of course, America did not know that...his decision was a terrible reaction that we should not let happen again....

Actually, Japan DID attempt to attack California.

Bombardment of Ellwood - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Ellwood)

And the decision made by the president for internment was as much for the safety of the Japanese as for the Americans. It's easy for someone to Monday morning quarterback, WAY after the fact.

wjboyer1
04-02-2017, 11:05 PM
Actually, Japan DID attempt to attack California.

Bombardment of Ellwood - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Ellwood)

And the decision made by the president for internment was as much for the safety of the Japanese as for the Americans. It's easy for someone to Monday morning quarterback, WAY after the fact.

Yes, a submarine did attack California and lobbed 16 shells into an oil center, with little damage....but I again say that any FULL attack on the western edge of the USA would have required the entire Japanese fleet, which they were not willing to do.....plus the fact that there were STILL NO CARRIERS SUNK AT PEARL HARBOR. And, when we look at history, the standard is that we should learn from our mistakes.....not repeat them

ColdNoMore
04-03-2017, 04:54 AM
Anyone want to proffer a guess, as to why there were only about 11,000 German's in the US put into internment camps in WW11...versus the 110,000+ Japanese that were interned (over 60% AMERICAN CITIZENS)?

It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the Japanese 'looked different' than the white Germans...could it?

Given the current hysterical prejudice against 'brown-skinned people'...I guess things will never change for bigots and racists. :ohdear:

Don Baldwin
04-03-2017, 04:59 AM
Yes, a submarine did attack California and lobbed 16 shells into an oil center, with little damage....but I again say that any FULL attack on the western edge of the USA would have required the entire Japanese fleet, which they were not willing to do.....plus the fact that there were STILL NO CARRIERS SUNK AT PEARL HARBOR. And, when we look at history, the standard is that we should learn from our mistakes.....not repeat them

What "his-story"? The "history" that keeps changing depending on who is in power?

What you THINK is "history" is usually propaganda. "History" IS written and rewritten by the winners...and the new "winners" are the minorities. They ARE rewriting "history".

MDLNB
04-03-2017, 06:24 AM
Yes, a submarine did attack California and lobbed 16 shells into an oil center, with little damage....but I again say that any FULL attack on the western edge of the USA would have required the entire Japanese fleet, which they were not willing to do.....plus the fact that there were STILL NO CARRIERS SUNK AT PEARL HARBOR. And, when we look at history, the standard is that we should learn from our mistakes.....not repeat them

If you insist on modifying your comment to suit your argument, then perhaps you should also realize that the poster said that the Japanese "they sank our carriers and attacked us first. " He did NOT say anything about Pearl Harbor. They did sink our carriers and they did attack us first. He did not say that the carriers were sunk at Pearl Harbor. Although, it is questionable why you are even criticizing his statement anyway. His point was not how or why, but that they did attack us and the president did what he thought was best for our country, good or bad. Like I said before, it is easy to Monday morning quarterback.

Trump is attempting to protect America and you fools are just fighting him out of spite. You are a drowning victim that is fighting the lifeguard that's attempting to drag you out of the water.

Don Baldwin
04-03-2017, 08:33 AM
If you insist on modifying your comment to suit your argument, then perhaps you should also realize that the poster said that the Japanese "they sank our carriers and attacked us first. " He did NOT say anything about Pearl Harbor. They did sink our carriers and they did attack us first. He did not say that the carriers were sunk at Pearl Harbor. Although, it is questionable why you are even criticizing his statement anyway. His point was not how or why, but that they did attack us and the president did what he thought was best for our country, good or bad. Like I said before, it is easy to Monday morning quarterback.

Trump is attempting to protect America and you fools are just fighting him out of spite. You are a drowning victim that is fighting the lifeguard that's attempting to drag you out of the water.

They "attacked us first"?

What would you call a blockade imposed on your country by another country at least 6 month prior?

And act of peace?

The US laid siege on Japan LONG before Pearl Harbor.

graciegirl
04-03-2017, 09:19 AM
Don Baldwin. I think you just like to fight. I bet you didn't join the army.

or Navy...or the coast guard.

How about the Peace Corp?

Are you and Dave Harris the same person? I have figured out who one of you are in real life. Very interesting.

ColdNoMore
04-03-2017, 10:00 AM
Don Baldwin. I think you just like to fight. I bet you didn't join the army.

or Navy...or the coast guard.

How about the Peace Corp?

Are you and Dave Harris the same person? I have figured out who one of you are in real life. Very interesting.

You are one nosy, nasty...passive-aggressive little twit. :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

MDLNB
04-03-2017, 10:44 AM
They "attacked us first"?

What would you call a blockade imposed on your country by another country at least 6 month prior?

And act of peace?

The US laid siege on Japan LONG before Pearl Harbor.

The liberal agenda, change history to make Americans the evil ones.

Key word "attacked." Yes, America was responsible for just about bankrupting Japan due to their lack of natural resources. And I have basically over simplified my statement to make it shorter. I am not going to pursue this any further, since it has nothing to do with the subject. I was only defending someone's comment that was incidental to the comment about FDR putting Japanese into internment camps. I am not going to debate the motivation for someone entering into war. Whether anyone wishes to believe it or not, when America went to war with a country, if that country was defeated, they usually ended up gaining from us, economically. Japan and Germany did very well, thanks to us.

Don Baldwin
04-03-2017, 02:14 PM
Don Baldwin. I think you just like to fight. I bet you didn't join the army.

or Navy...or the coast guard.

How about the Peace Corp?

Are you and Dave Harris the same person? I have figured out who one of you are in real life. Very interesting.

No...I like to be correct...and I want YOU to be correct too. When people say that Japan attacked us, unprovoked, a SNEAK attack...I MUST remind them that the FACTS were...the US blockaded a country we weren't at war with. We cut them off from the rest of the world. They attacked us MUCH later. And we DID know the attack was coming and we LET it happen because the people who control our government WANTED us in the war.

Our "his-story" books should be called propaganda books.

ME and Davi...the same person??? Are you kidding me?

The liberal agenda, change history to make Americans the evil ones.

Key word "attacked." Yes, America was responsible for just about bankrupting Japan due to their lack of natural resources. And I have basically over simplified my statement to make it shorter. I am not going to pursue this any further, since it has nothing to do with the subject. I was only defending someone's comment that was incidental to the comment about FDR putting Japanese into internment camps. I am not going to debate the motivation for someone entering into war. Whether anyone wishes to believe it or not, when America went to war with a country, if that country was defeated, they usually ended up gaining from us, economically. Japan and Germany did very well, thanks to us.

I'm not changing history...I'm telling you what really happened...with Japan.

The countries we go to "war" with...DO end up better off...I'm not disagreeing with that. We give them everything they need to be customers of the globalist corporations. We lend them "money" so they can hire corporations to fix things. So they can buy things.

Don't believe all the propaganda...America hasn't been the country YOU think it is...for a long long time. We have our boot on everyone's neck. Troops in what 150 countries?

"United States military deployments. The military of the United States is deployed in more than 150 countries around the world, with over 300,000 of its active-duty personnel serving outside the United States and its territories."

"Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities. Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined."

graciegirl
04-03-2017, 02:41 PM
Causes of World War II in the Pacific (https://www.thoughtco.com/world-war-ii-pacific-towards-war-2361459)

Reiver
04-03-2017, 02:56 PM
Anyone want to proffer a guess, as to why there were only about 11,000 German's in the US put into internment camps in WW11...versus the 110,000+ Japanese that were interned (over 60% AMERICAN CITIZENS)?

It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the Japanese 'looked different' than the white Germans...could it?

Given the current hysterical prejudice against 'brown-skinned people'...I guess things will never change for bigots and racists. :ohdear:
The Germans got here several generations before WWI and II, and did so in large numbers. Between 1820 and 1870 over seven and a half million German immigrants came to the United States — more than doubling the entire population of the country.

In contrast, the Japanese were recent arrivals, emigrating after 1880 and in smaller numbers. Between 1886 and 1911, 400,000 men and women left Japan for the U.S.

Lastly, no matter what you saw in that famous historical documentary "Animal House", the Germans did not bomb Pearl Harbor.

Reiver
04-03-2017, 03:03 PM
Causes of World War II in the Pacific (https://www.thoughtco.com/world-war-ii-pacific-towards-war-2361459)

Same old story. Our former ally Japan (Iraq) thinks they can get away some serious crap and invades China (Kuwait). America puts the hurt on them and Liberals blame the USA for being an aggressor.