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Jdmiata
03-26-2017, 05:22 PM
Ok ? Not Ok ?
Opinions ?
rivaridger1
03-26-2017, 05:35 PM
Casual dining, yes. Formal dining ,no. Hell, most of us worked years to be able to finally wear shorts, a T-Shirt and our favorite hat / cap into a restaurant and not take the hat off. Fortunately in most of The Villages restaurants casual dining is the rule.
With that said, let's debate acceptable dining attire for women as well. I personally have wondered where some of the gals have recently debarked from based on their outfits.
hoopsterdad
03-26-2017, 05:45 PM
when the women who complain about a hat in a casual place stop wearing red lipstick and an extra amount of perfume, then we might have a discussion.
600th Photo Sq
03-26-2017, 05:56 PM
My opinion is NO...it isn't OK to wear a hat in any restaurant. And @the " Sharon "
Whether it is considered Casual.Fine Dining, Casual Dining or just going out to Dinner. Going to a typical diner is different sitting at a counter for example. It is usually typical of the customers..hey it's a Diner.
I have on every occasion that we have been to the Sharon some men show up in Shorts, T-Shirt, complete with the Baseball Cap and yes with the hat placed on the dome " Backwards ".. like their head is on backwards, complete with the sweat mark(s).
Meanwhile the Lady that is being escorted looks like a million $$$ Dollars . Happens all the time.
I think it is classless and shows a serious lack of manners.
Look men leave the Cap/Hat in the Garage and show some class rather than lack of it. :plane:
ColdNoMore
03-26-2017, 06:01 PM
My opinion is NO...it isn't OK to wear a hat in any restaurant. And @the " Sharon "
Whether it is considered Casual.Fine Dining, Casual Dining or just going out to Dinner. Going to a typical diner is different sitting at a counter for example. It is usually typical of the customers..hey it's a Diner.
I have on every occasion that we have been to the Sharon some men show up in Shorts, T-Shirt, complete with the Baseball Cap and yes with the hat placed on the dome " Backwards ".. like their head is on backwards, complete with the sweat mark(s).
Meanwhile the Lady that is being escorted looks like a million $$$ Dollars . Happens all the time.
I think it is classless and shows a serious lack of manners.
Look men leave the Cap/Hat in the Garage and show some class rather than lack of it. :plane:
:agree:
spring_chicken
03-26-2017, 06:16 PM
Why not just enjoy your meal/concert and not ruin your evening worrying about what others are doing wearing?
I'm certainly not going to let a man in shorts and cap ruin my evening.
Reiver
03-26-2017, 06:23 PM
Tell me why it's rude and we can discuss it.
Rapscallion St Croix
03-26-2017, 06:25 PM
If there is no dress code, you can't impose your own.
ColdNoMore
03-26-2017, 06:33 PM
If rudeness and a lack of class has to be explained...it's probably going to fall on deaf ears anyway. :shrug:
spring_chicken
03-26-2017, 06:37 PM
If rudeness and a lack of class has to be explained...it's probably going to fall on deaf ears anyway. :shrug:
My philosophy has always been, it there is no dress code posted, I don't really care what others are wearing. It dates back to a trip to Vegas in 1989 when I packed nice dressy clothes and soon discovered that it was much less formal than I expected. I didn't worry what others were wearing, just decided to have a good time.
Bonny
03-26-2017, 06:45 PM
I see guys all the time having a beer and/or lunch. Many of them have their caps on, especially after golf. Doesn't bother me at all. However, dinner is a little different, especially in a nice place. Wouldn't hurt to take it off, but if they don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. :D
Shimpy
03-26-2017, 07:11 PM
Many here are new in Florida and can't give up their home northern customs, dark furniture and woods, dark clothes in winter, etc. Wake up and breath fresh Florida air. It's not N.Y. or wherever you are from (and please don't tell me, I'm not impressed). We are very casual here and and if someone wants to wear shorts and a shirt with palm trees on who cares? Wear your hat and enjoy it.
village dreamer
03-26-2017, 07:19 PM
I wear a hat to play golf,and then go eat,but my hair would be a mess if I take it off.
DonH57
03-26-2017, 07:46 PM
If there is no dress code, you can't impose your own.
Exactly. Some feel they should tell others how to live.
kcrazorbackfan
03-26-2017, 07:47 PM
Many here are new in Florida and can't give up their home northern customs, dark furniture and woods, dark clothes in winter, etc. Wake up and breath fresh Florida air. It's not N.Y. or wherever you are from (and please don't tell me, I'm not impressed). We are very casual here and and if someone wants to wear shorts and a shirt with palm trees on who cares? Wear your hat and enjoy it.
:boom: :thumbup: :BigApplause:
Yung Dum
03-26-2017, 07:52 PM
Didn't your mother always tell you to take your hat off at the dinner table?
kcrazorbackfan
03-26-2017, 08:09 PM
Didn't your mother always tell you to take your hat off at the dinner table?
Not really; we lived in the South and weren't uppity folks. I grew up on a cotton/soybean farm and with a cotton gin, grain elevator and a fertilizer distributorship in the mix, most of the time we rarely had time to sit and eat like you citified folk.
JoMar
03-26-2017, 08:26 PM
It's just a total lack of respect for those around you. When I visited true southerners(those that were born in Kentucky and Alabama and still live there) they expected me to have manners....those from the south are actually more tuned in to what is appropriate...and my parents taught me what was appropriate in their eyes and my southern friends drilled it into my brain. Everyone here has a reason to justify living they way they want to live......and I guess it would be nice to say that what someone else does doesn't bother us.....but we all know it does. If it doesn't conform to us, then we have an opinion. It's not going to change, but we don't have to like it. Take off the hat and buy a comb if your vanity over your hair gets in the way. As for the Sharon....what is posted is "Attire
Business Casual is recommended for most performances. On some special occasions, more formal wear may apply and will be noted." Of course they ask not to take photo's but camera's and iPads are held high basically announcing S**** you Morse Center, we don't care about what you want...it's want we want. End of rant!
NYGUY
03-26-2017, 09:02 PM
Ok ? Not Ok ?
Opinions ?
If they have to be told, they are not worth telling!!!
ColdNoMore
03-26-2017, 09:14 PM
Didn't your mother always tell you to take your hat off at the dinner table?
Exactly. :thumbup:
Reiver
03-26-2017, 09:15 PM
Wow. People get quite upset when they can't think of a single reason why you shouldn't do something totally harmless.
justjim
03-26-2017, 09:48 PM
Hats off at the dinner table and at the Sharon or similar venue. So far I've yet to see one at worship in our Church. Good manners and etiquette are learned traits and are never out of style.
DARFAP
03-26-2017, 09:50 PM
No
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CtButterfly
03-26-2017, 09:59 PM
What is worst is when a person takes their sweaty hat off
and sets it on the table.
Nothing wrong with leaving it on your hat during causal dining.
Or what about this, the other night at Cane Garden 2 couples
were sitting at a table next to us having dinner.
One lady receives and Face Time call from the family and
carries on a conversation as if she's in her own home.
About 15 minutes later she receives another phone call
which she answers and carries on another conversation
for 10 minutes . . . Now that is rude.
ShabbyChick
03-26-2017, 10:31 PM
Definitely not okay no matter how the man is dressed. Once a man is no longer outdoors, especially in a restaurant or church, his hat should come off.
Carl in Tampa
03-26-2017, 11:37 PM
Only twice in my life have I sat at a meal with my hat on. Both were in Texas.
Once was in a small cafe near the LBJ Ranch where there were about 30 people having lunch at long communal tables. Like all of the other men in the room, I was wearing a "cowboy hat."
Every man wore his hat throughout the meal. There was no place to hang hats, no room on the tables for hats, and no empty chairs to place hats on. It was the custom of the area to wear cowboy hats at meals.
The second time was in a "very nice" restaurant near Bandera, Texas, where there were only four of us at the table. Our host was wearing his cowboy hat, and I felt that taking mine off might be considered a criticism of him wearing his, so I wore mine.
In Texas, western style hats are acceptable both in "cowboy country" and in major metropolitan cities like Dallas, Austin, and Houston. I only wear my "cowboy hat" in Texas, not in Florida.
In Florida there is a long tradition of locals wearing "redneck hats" which they customarily wear at the table when taking meals. My father-in-law wore his during all waking moments throughout his entire life. My brother-in-law presently does the same.
Never having been a member of the country club set, I don't know about the customs of golfers wearing their golf caps at meals.
Through four years of college in Florida I never saw one of my fellow students wear headgear during a meal. In the Army I never saw anyone wear headgear in the mess hall. The Sheriff's Office I worked for was pretty strict about wearing hats, but never required it at meals.
Bottom line.......... I think it looks "unrefined" to wear a hat while eating, and I can understand why people think it spoils the atmosphere of the dining area, but I don't let such things affect my enjoyment when eating out.
Two Bills
03-27-2017, 04:01 AM
I can live with hats, even though not a thing I would wear in an eatery.
Pet hate is cell phones ringing and being answered when eating. That is ignorance. :cus:
rubicon
03-27-2017, 04:04 AM
We are products of our environment. There was a time when guys in my neighborhood believed success was achieved by working toward an occupation that required wearing a suit and tie. Protocols were established for social interactions.
Then the hippie generation kicked in and grunge was cool. it carried to the office where corporations were, much to my chagrin, pressured to causal attire.
With that change came a change in thinking. I spent the remaining years of work in part policing what my employees wore and making a determination if it met the company's dress code. Believe me when I say some folks simply have no common sense .
A person's attire in part reflects who they are, as does the manner in which they maintain their property, their conversation, etc.
One of the benefits for me for now being retired is that I no longer have to play clothes monitor.
Personal Best Regards:
justjim
03-27-2017, 04:36 AM
What is worst is when a person takes their sweaty hat off
and sets it on the table.
Nothing wrong with leaving it on your hat during causal dining.
Or what about this, the other night at Cane Garden 2 couples
were sitting at a table next to us having dinner.
One lady receives and Face Time call from the family and
carries on a conversation as if she's in her own home.
About 15 minutes later she receives another phone call
which she answers and carries on another conversation
for 10 minutes . . . Now that is rude.
This thread is about wearing hats especially in restaurants but you just hit upon one of my "pet peeves" regarding cell phones. Worse IMHO are dog owners who put their dogs on restaurant tables----especially outside patio tables. No manners and no thought for others.
jblum315
03-27-2017, 04:43 AM
More than men wearing hats, I hate seeing women playing with their hair in restaurants. Loose hairs flying everywhere, into my food maybe. If a woman needs to fix her hair she should go to the ladies room otherwise keep your hands out of you hair
rubicon
03-27-2017, 04:44 AM
This thread is about wearing hats especially in restaurants but you just hit upon one of my "pet peeves" regarding cell phones. Worse IMHO are dog owners who put their dogs on restaurant tables----especially outside patio tables. No manners and no thought for others.
justjim: you are stepping on sacred ground here:D
rustyp
03-27-2017, 06:28 AM
Chicken or the egg ? Remember when restaurants had hat racks ?
Bay Kid
03-27-2017, 06:40 AM
Times sure have changed. I was taught to remove my hat when entering a building and always when eating at the table. Same as opening a door for the ladies.
Reiver
03-27-2017, 07:02 AM
I'd rather see a cell phone than a waiter carrying a silver tray with a phone on it, dragging the cord around the tables.
Anyway, after it rings, it's just another conversation.
Aren't you REALLY annoyed at them, because it's harder to eavesdrop?
Dogs are a safety/cleanliness issue.
As for the hat issue, be glad you're on the east coast where people keep their hats on in restaurants.
You could be in California where people want to take their pants off in restaurants...
Luckily, chickens and eggs are BOTH appropriate restaurant fare!
amr6681
03-27-2017, 07:11 AM
I, personally, don't like to see men wearing hats in restaurants. However, after a day of golf or some form of exercise, people should feel free to cover their unruly locks. On the same note, I can't seem to criticize men wearing hats in restaurants when I, as a woman, enjoy wearing hats, especially cowboy hats. For women, it's part of the outfit.
We taught our son to take off his hat when he eats at a restaurant. He then asked me why I didn't take my hat off. How do you answer that?
Taltarzac725
03-27-2017, 07:11 AM
Should I Take My Hat Off at a Restaurant? - Chowhound (https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/86342/should-i-take-my-hat-off-at-a-restaurant/)
I like this article about wearing hats in restaurants. I usually wear a baseball cap in places like RJ Gators but take it off at Bonefish Grill. It is needed because I do not like showing off my big bald spot. And I do longer have enough hair to even try a feasible comb over.
Barefoot
03-27-2017, 08:44 AM
Ok ? Not Ok ? Opinions ?
My opinion is ... it's not important to me .... I'm not my brother's keeper. :ho:
Taltarzac725
03-27-2017, 08:48 AM
My opinion is ... it's not important to me .... I'm not my brother's keeper. :ho:
How about really bad comb overs? Which kind of look like the man has a lobster on his head?
A Gallery Of Ridiculously Bad Comb Overs (19 Pics) - Ned Hardy | Ned Hardy (http://nedhardy.com/2013/07/17/a-gallery-of-ridiculously-bad-comb-overs-19-pics/)
LI SNOWBIRD
03-27-2017, 09:28 AM
Exactly. :thumbup:
mine too. My dad wore what he called a "kopf cover" which is a blend of German "kopf" (head) and English "cover" for a hat. He wore all the time but my mom forbade me form wearing a hat at the table. And you did what she said!
LI SNOWBIRD
03-27-2017, 09:32 AM
I'd rather see a cell phone than a waiter carrying a silver tray with a phone on it, dragging the cord around the tables.
Anyway, after it rings, it's just another conversation.
Aren't you REALLY annoyed at them, because it's harder to eavesdrop?
Dogs are a safety/cleanliness issue.
As for the hat issue, be glad you're on the east coast where people keep their hats on in restaurants.
You could be in California where people want to take their pants off in restaurants...
Luckily, chickens and eggs are BOTH appropriate restaurant fare!
I always take off my hat when sitting down to a meal
rustyp
03-27-2017, 09:33 AM
I see a compromise here - men remove your hats when ladies stop bathing in perfume.
Rapscallion St Croix
03-27-2017, 10:06 AM
Chicken or the egg ? Remember when restaurants had hat racks ?
You must be very young. I remember hat check girls.
Rapscallion St Croix
03-27-2017, 10:11 AM
This offense pales compared to ladies wearing white shoes after Labor Day. Times change. Customs evolve. When I want to be culturally enhanced, I'll eat some yogurt.
Nucky
03-27-2017, 10:13 AM
I think I remember Tony Soprano and Artie Bucco having difficulty with a young man wearing a hat in a restaurant. Youtube-The Sopranos. Take Your Hat Off. Check it out.
spuds51
03-27-2017, 10:29 AM
This must be nothing else to complain about Monday.
graciegirl
03-27-2017, 10:35 AM
I like to see folks in military ballcaps that says they served. I so much enjoy shaking their hand and thanking them.
ColdNoMore
03-27-2017, 10:36 AM
I always take off my hat when sitting down to a meal
:thumbup:
Boomer
03-27-2017, 11:12 AM
I think I remember Tony Soprano and Artie Bucco having difficulty with a young man wearing a hat in a restaurant. Youtube-The Sopranos. Take Your Hat Off. Check it out.
Just watched it!
Luved it!
(Guess that shows where I stand on this one.)
Thanks for the laugh, Nucky.
Chatbrat
03-27-2017, 12:20 PM
In the Navy clubs anyone who entered a club and was caught by the bartender's ringing of a bell ,had to buy the bar a round--it was a tradition & you swore the bartender's arm was 8 foot long--plenty of new Ensigns & Chiefs got caught in their respective clubs
Taltarzac725
03-27-2017, 01:07 PM
I think I remember Tony Soprano and Artie Bucco having difficulty with a young man wearing a hat in a restaurant. Youtube-The Sopranos. Take Your Hat Off. Check it out.
Interesting. Probably would not work in the Villages very often unless your were as imposing as Tony Soprano.
RickeyD
03-27-2017, 04:10 PM
There is a tribal dress code. Ignore it at your own risk.
Simply because coat & hat check rooms are mostly non-existent does not deter from the fact that hats should be removed before entering a restaurant and placed on the lap when sat.
rustyp
03-27-2017, 05:17 PM
Customary for men to take hats off and women to leave theirs on. It apparently is also tradition for a man to place his removed hat on his lap.
"Baby take off your dress
Yes yes yes
You can leave your hat on"
Joe Cocker
Now I understand why I should place it on my lap.
Rapscallion St Croix
03-27-2017, 05:32 PM
Customary for men to take hats off and women to leave theirs on. It apparently is also tradition for a man to place his removed hat on his lap.
"Baby take off your dress
Yes yes yes
You can leave your hat on"
Joe Cocker
Now I understand why I should place it on my lap.
Let's give credit where it is due. Randy Newman wrote and sang those words 15 years before Joe Cocker recorded them.
Chi-Town
03-27-2017, 05:33 PM
Not really; we lived in the South and weren't uppity folks. I grew up on a cotton/soybean farm and with a cotton gin, grain elevator and a fertilizer distributorship in the mix, most of the time we rarely had time to sit and eat like you citified folk.
Jed Clampett used to take his hat off at the fancy eatin' table.
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Chi-Town
03-27-2017, 05:49 PM
Let's give credit where it is due. Randy Newman wrote and sang those words 15 years before Joe Cocker recorded them.
That is true. But Cocker's version was made famous by Kim Basinger stripping to it in "9-1/2 Weeeks". Hence the hat on the lap reference.
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Chi-Town
03-27-2017, 05:57 PM
I think I remember Tony Soprano and Artie Bucco having difficulty with a young man wearing a hat in a restaurant. Youtube-The Sopranos. Take Your Hat Off. Check it out.
Heres the link:
The Sopranos - Take your hat off - YouTube (https://youtu.be/Hqp1bGuiHHs)
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kcrazorbackfan
03-27-2017, 08:22 PM
To each their own. That's the great thing about America - within the law, people are free to do what they please. I've never seen a city, county, state or federal law regarding wearing a hat or cap; maybe a suggestion, but never a law.
rustyp
03-27-2017, 08:32 PM
That is true. But Cocker's version was made famous by Kim Basinger stripping to it in "9-1/2 Weeeks". Hence the hat on the lap reference.
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waterlily
03-27-2017, 08:41 PM
If I find a fancy eatin' table like Jed Clampett found, I might take off my hat as well. I have yet to find one of those tables in TV except when dining at friends houses. I would never wear a hat at a friends, but I am more than comfortable at any of the restaurants on campus.
Great post Chi-Town! I got a big chuckle out of that comment.
Nucky
03-27-2017, 09:13 PM
Interesting. Probably would not work in the Villages very often unless your were as imposing as Tony Soprano.
I think I could pull it off. No problem. Forgetaboutit! :$: It's just a common sense item, respect for those around you is all it is. Hat off and put on your knee not on the table. Oh and don't ever speak back to your elder's ever.
big guy
03-27-2017, 10:04 PM
Didn't your mother always tell you to take your hat off at the dinner table?
I grew up in a small town in south Texas and the men were still told to take their hats off at the table. It wasn't "uppity", it was just good manners to remove them. My husband was raised in a small western Pennsylvania steel mill town and they had the same rules......no hats at the table whether it was breakfast, lunch or dinner. I am amazed at how many men wear their hats indoors and in restaurants, as if they are not removable.
big guy
03-27-2017, 10:09 PM
To each their own. That's the great thing about America - within the law, people are free to do what they please. I've never seen a city, county, state or federal law regarding wearing a hat or cap; maybe a suggestion, but never a law.
It is an etiquette rule, not a law. One of those things that makes it pleasant to be around people.
SFSkol
03-28-2017, 04:42 AM
SQUAWK OF THE VILLAGES
(Home of TV Fake News)
TOP HAT STORY! Controversy over the wearing of hats in restaurants have finally come to a head. Women during Easter are calling fowl, where Men after golfing are saying it's par for the course. Hefty attire wearers are often seen carrying a spare one. Some say there should be a cap on it. Advocates say hat hair responsible. Men Without Hats Club president Helmut Chapeau at their spring hard hat safety dance pithily replied saying the Villages needs a serious hat check. His Panama wife is fez up to the brim, where his son Ushanka, an avid bowler, hasn't heard anything about it. Stay tuned as we cover the roots of this hair razing issue.
rustyp
03-28-2017, 05:41 AM
:BigApplause:SQUAWK OF THE VILLAGES
(Home of TV Fake News)
TOP HAT STORY! Controversy over the wearing of hats in restaurants have finally come to a head. Women during Easter are calling fowl, where Men after golfing are saying it's par for the course. Hefty attire wearers are often seen carrying a spare one. Some say there should be a cap on it. Advocates say hat hair responsible. Men Without Hats Club president Helmut Chapeau at their spring hard hat safety dance pithily replied saying the Villages needs a serious hat check. His Panama wife is fez up to the brim, where his son Ushanka, an avid bowler, hasn't heard anything about it. Stay tuned as we cover the roots of this hair razing issue.
RickeyD
03-28-2017, 06:04 AM
Customary for men to take hats off and women to leave theirs on. It apparently is also tradition for a man to place his removed hat on his lap.
"Baby take off your dress
Yes yes yes
You can leave your hat on"
Joe Cocker
Now I understand why I should place it on my lap.
Last sentence, very funny.
ColdNoMore
03-28-2017, 06:23 AM
It is an etiquette rule, not a law. One of those things that makes it pleasant to be around people.
Nailed it!!! :thumbup:
graciegirl
03-28-2017, 06:25 AM
:BigApplause:
:eclipsee_gold_cup::beer3:
mgjim
03-28-2017, 06:25 AM
Military veterans will remember that one doesn't wear headgear indoors unless he or she is under arms. So if you're carrying in a restaurant, you should keep your hat on.
Boomer
03-28-2017, 10:31 AM
............
Chatbrat
03-28-2017, 11:01 AM
What about fat guys wearing sleeveless shirts and sitting at the bar--really gross
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-28-2017, 11:02 AM
I personally find it distasteful. I was taught from the time I was a little kid that hats are to be removed inside public buildings. This whole hat wearing thing these days puzzles me anyway. IMHO, we have lost to many of the little niceties in society.
Kahuna32162
03-28-2017, 11:13 AM
How can a thread this stupid get to 8 pages long? BTW, Graciegirl has started a competing thread about women wearing hats in resturants.
rustyp
03-28-2017, 11:40 AM
How can a thread this stupid get to 8 pages long? BTW, Graciegirl has started a competing thread about women wearing hats in resturants.
Thinks this is stupid? Wait till we get to the why am I forced to look at your ugly vulgar tattoos in an establishment that doesn't sell hot dogs or have bleachers. I was raised to not deform my body out of respect just like removing your hat.
Nucky
03-28-2017, 11:47 AM
What about fat guys wearing sleeveless shirts and sitting at the bar--really gross
Why are you lookin? Your supposed to be rating the service and the food and drink.
big guy
03-28-2017, 12:19 PM
Thinks this is stupid? Wait till we get to the why am I forced to look at your ugly vulgar tattoos in an establishment that doesn't sell hot dogs or have bleachers. I was raised to not deform my body out of respect just like removing your hat.
:a040::a040::clap2:
Rapscallion St Croix
03-28-2017, 12:35 PM
I am no good at etiquette. I sometimes use the same fork for salad and entree, have been caught with my elbows on the table, often pass the salt without the pepper, and there's that thing where I get the grandkids to pull my finger.
fred53
03-28-2017, 12:57 PM
I was brought up that men removed their hats when going indoors(a mall doesn't count). That means when going into someones home, a theater, a church, a restaurant, etc. In not doing so it was considered to be of low class and to me still does. If you have character and respect for yourself and others you remove your hat when going indoors.
Some folks are just lazy, some were not taught proper manners, some are vain, some could care less(joe****theragmen) and some think they're above such things when in reality are really below the rest of us. :-)
twoplanekid
03-28-2017, 02:17 PM
Whatever floats your boat. Judge lest ye be judged. My hat’s off to you. Women are always right. I love it down here. :laugh:
simpkinp
03-28-2017, 08:43 PM
I am no good at etiquette. I sometimes use the same fork for salad and entree, have been caught with my elbows on the table, often pass the salt without the pepper, and there's that thing where I get the grandkids to pull my finger.
You are so funny. I always read your posts. Keep 'em coming
doran
03-28-2017, 08:49 PM
Why do you care? Live and let live. non issue
kcrazorbackfan
03-28-2017, 09:50 PM
It is an etiquette rule, not a law. One of those things that makes it pleasant to be around people.
Just like it's an etiquette rule to fix ball marks, fill divots, rake bunkers, stay a minimum 15' away from greens/bunkers (those with R/A tags), keep up with the pace of play, etc., etc., etc.; those etiquette rules make it pleasant for golfers to enjoy playing. If those guilty start practicing that etiquette, then I'll start practicing the etiquette of removing my Titleist, Mizuno, Cane Garden, Evans Prairie, Paradise Pointe, etc. golf caps when I venture indoors. I'll probably never have to because no one else will want to........
Cedwards38
03-29-2017, 06:39 AM
I can think of no practical reason why men should not wear a hat in a restaurant. Anyone have one to share? And tradition is not really a practical reason.
Taltarzac725
03-29-2017, 07:08 AM
How about at movie theaters? Ever sit in back of someone with a large cowboy hat in a movie theater who keeps it on for some reason?
I do get a group of Red Hat Ladies in front of me once in a while at theater and if I can I just move because they usually leave all their hats on even inside a movie theater.
NYGUY
03-29-2017, 07:24 AM
I can think of no practical reason why men should not wear a hat in a restaurant. Anyone have one to share? And tradition is not really a practical reason.
And what would be the practical reason to wear one...keep your head warm?....keep the bugs off?
Taltarzac725
03-29-2017, 07:26 AM
And what would be the practical reason to wear one...keep your head warm?....keep the bugs off?
I use it to hide my glaring & gleaming bald spot. Which a number of men I know also do.
rustyp
03-29-2017, 07:35 AM
Florida health code:
2-402.11 Effectiveness.
(A) Except as provided in ¶ (B) of this section, food employees shall wear hair restraints such as hats, hair coverings or nets, beard restraints, and clothing that covers body hair, that are designed and worn to effectively keep their hair from contacting exposed food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles.
Would it offend you if I wore my torque blanche or is it only my baseball cap that's an issue ? What if my baseball cap exhibited a branch a of military service ? If it really truly offends you I can take it off and put it on my dog that I brought to the restaurant.
DeanFL
03-29-2017, 07:35 AM
IMO, much ado about nothing - esp in Country Club restaurants and quick-serve etc. As long as the cooks wear headwear, if you know what I mean...
We live in a casual-wear locality, and I appreciate that. One less matter to clog the mind and enjoy our surroundings.
NYGUY
03-29-2017, 07:50 AM
I use it to hide my glaring & gleaming bald spot. Which a number of men I know also do.
If the purpose is to hide, many would be wearing bags.
graciegirl
03-29-2017, 08:10 AM
ball caps with military logo - Bing images (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ball+caps+with+military+logo&qs=SC&sk=&FORM=QBIR&pq=ballcaps%20with%20military&sc=4-22&sp=1&qs=SC&sk=)
I like to see these hats wherever they are worn and I like to shake the hand of the wearers. I think most of us know the rules of society but I think those rules can be bent a little here in The Villages where casual and comfortable rule. If you think it isn't nice to wear a hat, don't wear one. If you are wearing the kind of hat I have shown, you have my respect wherever you wear it.
Keep calm and carry on.
Taltarzac725
03-29-2017, 08:19 AM
Florida health code:
2-402.11 Effectiveness.
(A) Except as provided in ¶ (B) of this section, food employees shall wear hair restraints such as hats, hair coverings or nets, beard restraints, and clothing that covers body hair, that are designed and worn to effectively keep their hair from contacting exposed food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles.
Would it offend you if I wore my torque blanche or is it only my baseball cap that's an issue ? What if my baseball cap exhibited a branch a of military service ? If it really truly offends you I can take it off and put it on my dog that I brought to the restaurant.
Hair in your food is not a good thing.
Shimpy
03-29-2017, 04:06 PM
And what would be the practical reason to wear one...keep your head warm?....keep the bugs off?
Who cares? What is practical for a man to wear a tie?
jbconnolly1969
03-29-2017, 04:53 PM
Really...does it really matter?
Rapscallion St Croix
03-29-2017, 05:00 PM
And what would be the practical reason to wear one...keep your head warm?....keep the bugs off?
I can only speak for myself, but I wear mine to self-identify as a vulgarian.
600th Photo Sq
03-29-2017, 05:25 PM
Florida health code:
2-402.11 Effectiveness.
(A) Except as provided in ¶ (B) of this section, food employees shall wear hair restraints such as hats, hair coverings or nets, beard restraints, and clothing that covers body hair, that are designed and worn to effectively keep their hair from contacting exposed food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles.
Would it offend you if I wore my torque blanche or is it only my baseball cap that's an issue ? What if my baseball cap exhibited a branch a of military service ? If it really truly offends you I can take it off and put it on my dog that I brought to the restaurant.
The issue is wearing a Hat and or Cap while dining out. Not if your Baseball Cap has a Military Logo or any other Logo on it.
rustyp
03-29-2017, 05:58 PM
The issue is wearing a Hat and or Cap while dining out. Not if your Baseball Cap has a Military Logo or any other Logo on it.
Now I have a real problem! This afternoon I played golf at Hacienda. Afterwards we occupied two tables on the patio for refreshments afterwards. Several couples were having a late lunch/early dinner. We were drinking and the sun was in my eyes distracting me from seeing the bathing beauties at the pool. I had to put my hat back on. What should I have done ?
Reiver
03-29-2017, 05:59 PM
I tend to only wear a hat for shade, but I am going to endeavor to cultivate a more permanent affectation.
600th Photo Sq
03-29-2017, 07:55 PM
Now I have a real problem! This afternoon I played golf at Hacienda. Afterwards we occupied two tables on the patio for refreshments afterwards. Several couples were having a late lunch/early dinner. We were drinking and the sun was in my eyes distracting me from seeing the bathing beauties at the pool. I had to put my hat back on. What should I have done ?
Since the Bathing Beauties were soaking up the " Ray's ' they weren't going anywhere soon...trot out to your golf cart and get your Sunglasses..One or two lessons you gain from this.
1) You will be less conspicuous while your admiring the view.
2) Call the waiter over and send over drinks. Naturally me being experienced I would ask the waiter what are they drinking..and
3) Bonus lesson: Always be prepared....:spoken:
EPutnam1863
04-03-2017, 03:24 PM
My husband and our three sons wear caps to cover their bald heads. I have to say they look better with them on.
Sandtrap328
04-04-2017, 04:25 PM
I just returned from a Caribbean cruise. At dinner in the Main Dining Room (Moonlight Sonata), a Villager was at his table with his ball cap on. The Head Waiter asked the man to remove his cap. The Villager got irate, yelled a few choice words, forcibly grabbed his wife by the wrist, and stormed out of the dining room, dragging his wife behind.
Glad I was not sitting at his table. Actions like that give The Villages a worse name than the imaginary sexual wonderland that so many have of our community.
Guys, leave those ball caps at home when going to a restaurant!
rjm1cc
04-04-2017, 06:02 PM
Ok ? Not Ok ?
Opinions ?
Why is the question only about men?
rustyp
04-04-2017, 06:05 PM
I just returned from a Caribbean cruise. At dinner in the Main Dining Room (Moonlight Sonata), a Villager was at his table with his ball cap on. The Head Waiter asked the man to remove his cap. The Villager got irate, yelled a few choice words, forcibly grabbed his wife by the wrist, and stormed out of the dining room, dragging his wife behind.
Glad I was not sitting at his table. Actions like that give The Villages a worse name than the imaginary sexual wonderland that so many have of our community.
Guys, leave those ball caps at home when going to a restaurant!
I have been raised to always remove my hat before sex.
Barefoot
04-04-2017, 06:11 PM
Why is the question only about men?
Perhaps men have more bald spots; and they are therefore more inclined to wear baseball hats when dining? :shrug:
I'm still laughing about RSC's comment about self-identifying as a vulgarian.
600th Photo Sq
04-04-2017, 07:31 PM
Perhaps men have more bald spots; and they are therefore more inclined to wear baseball hats when dining? :shrug:
I'm still laughing about RSC's comment about self-identifying as a vulgarian.
I would think that having, Etiquette, Manners, and Pride in one's Personal appearance out weighed bald spot(s) while dining out. Those who do for that reason is showing excessive Vain in how they may look to others. Pity
Out of curiosity when invited to lunch/dinner to an individuals home, is it OK to wear a Baseball Cap while dining...or are the bald spots conveniently " Ignored ".
Most caps that I have noticed being worn are Filthy, Bearing Sweat Marks etc. hardly sanitary.
The consensus of opinions in this poll are Caps/Hats should not be worn.
Time to put this poll to rest.
RickeyD
04-04-2017, 08:20 PM
I just returned from a Caribbean cruise. At dinner in the Main Dining Room (Moonlight Sonata), a Villager was at his table with his ball cap on. The Head Waiter asked the man to remove his cap. The Villager got irate, yelled a few choice words, forcibly grabbed his wife by the wrist, and stormed out of the dining room, dragging his wife behind.
Glad I was not sitting at his table. Actions like that give The Villages a worse name than the imaginary sexual wonderland that so many have of our community.
Guys, leave those ball caps at home when going to a restaurant!
Redneck Villager, I wouldn't worry about him. Oops, there I said it. Only rednecks wear ball caps at a dinner table. [emoji52]
Bonny
04-04-2017, 08:41 PM
Why is the question only about men?
There was a separate thread about women.
Reiver
04-05-2017, 12:10 AM
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600th Photo Sq
04-05-2017, 05:36 AM
I just returned from a Caribbean cruise. At dinner in the Main Dining Room (Moonlight Sonata), a Villager was at his table with his ball cap on. The Head Waiter asked the man to remove his cap. The Villager got irate, yelled a few choice words, forcibly grabbed his wife by the wrist, and stormed out of the dining room, dragging his wife behind.
Glad I was not sitting at his table. Actions like that give The Villages a worse name than the imaginary sexual wonderland that so many have of our community.
Guys, leave those ball caps at home when going to a restaurant!
The guy obviously showed his ignorance by not obeying the rules on what is acceptable to wear while dining.
All Cruise Ships have a Dress Code...All
It clearly states that Baseball Caps are " Not Allowed " along with a whole laundry list of restrictions on what is acceptable, and more important Not Acceptable.
Worse though is when Adult Child showed his cowardly behavior by grabbing his wife and hauling her away. A cruise from Hell for her.
600th Photo Sq
04-05-2017, 05:49 AM
There was a separate thread about women.
Your right there is. I will make a comment on this. There are different rules for Ladies on what is acceptable to wear while dining.
The one that sticks out loud and clear is Baseball Caps are " Unacceptable " for Ladies to wear while dining.
So Ladies you fall into the Men category on this.Leave the Cap in the Garage.
Actually I see very few ladies wearing caps or visors in a restaurant..
ColdNoMore
04-05-2017, 06:49 AM
11 pages now on what I previously believed, was a universal acceptance on what is appropriate...and a display of simple manners. :oops:
I guess you just never know. :D
rustyp
04-05-2017, 07:53 AM
11 pages now on what I previously believed, was a universal acceptance on what is appropriate...and a display of simple manners. :oops:
I guess you just never know. :D
Going for 12 pages - that's some hat trick.
RichardWalker
04-05-2017, 11:14 AM
Since when was it considered rude or disrespectful to wear red lipstick? Actually red lipstick is considered more formal, for evening. Men's hats are removed out of respect but personally I don't care.
graciegirl
04-05-2017, 11:24 AM
Since when was it considered rude or disrespectful to wear red lipstick? Actually red lipstick is considered more formal, for evening. Men's hats are removed out of respect but personally I don't care.
Most men I know wearing black tie go with a more natural look, like chapstick.
Reiver
04-05-2017, 01:21 PM
Going for 12 pages - that's some hat trick.
lol
... and yet not one person can say WHY it's rude.
Sandtrap328
04-05-2017, 02:50 PM
lol
... and yet not one person can say WHY it's rude.
Did your mother allow you to wear a ball cap while eating dinner at the table? Would she have ever allowed you to eat dinner in a restaurant or at family friend's dinner table while wearing your dirty, sweat stained ball cap?
As far as why it is rude - just common courtesy! Is picking your nose at the table rude? Is a loud burp in a restaurant rude? Is a loud fart in the elevator rude? Is taking off your shoe and smelling the inside of it in church rude? Is passing the shoe to your wife in church for her to smell rude?
Answer to all the above is YES. Common courtesy is WHY. How did your mother raise you?
rustyp
04-05-2017, 03:28 PM
Did your mother allow you to wear a ball cap while eating dinner at the table? Would she have ever allowed you to eat dinner in a restaurant or at family friend's dinner table while wearing your dirty, sweat stained ball cap?
As far as why it is rude - just common courtesy! Is picking your nose at the table rude? Is a loud burp in a restaurant rude? Is a loud fart in the elevator rude? Is taking off your shoe and smelling the inside of it in church rude? Is passing the shoe to your wife in church for her to smell rude?
Answer to all the above is YES. Common courtesy is WHY. How did your mother raise you?
That's a trick question. Is there anyone else in the elevator?
spuds51
04-05-2017, 06:34 PM
that's a trick question. Is there anyone else in the elevator?
lol....:
ColdNoMore
04-05-2017, 07:06 PM
Did your mother allow you to wear a ball cap while eating dinner at the table? Would she have ever allowed you to eat dinner in a restaurant or at family friend's dinner table while wearing your dirty, sweat stained ball cap?
As far as why it is rude - just common courtesy! Is picking your nose at the table rude? Is a loud burp in a restaurant rude? Is a loud fart in the elevator rude? Is taking off your shoe and smelling the inside of it in church rude? Is passing the shoe to your wife in church for her to smell rude?
Answer to all the above is YES. Common courtesy is WHY. How did your mother raise you?
:thumbup:
If you actually have to explain that being 'rude' is primarily ignoring (or maybe not knowing) what has been accepted as societal norms of decency and courtesy...then you're probably wasting your typing. :ohdear:
graciegirl
04-05-2017, 07:55 PM
:thumbup:
If you actually have to explain that being 'rude' is primarily ignoring (or maybe not knowing) what has been accepted as societal norms of decency and courtesy...then you're probably wasting your typing. :ohdear:
Bob!!!
joldnol
04-05-2017, 08:30 PM
Wow so many of you need to get over yourselves. Why worry about what others wear. Something really objectionable is the stench some spray on themselves. Obvivious to the fact some are scent sensitive.
Rapscallion St Croix
04-05-2017, 08:39 PM
To be honest, I am distracted by people on cell phones, loud talkers, and unruly children and never give much thought to people in caps or hats. I suppose I would take notice if someone was wearing a a loin cloth and a tinfoil helmet, but I just don't even notice the folks in ball caps.
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