2 White House Officials Helped Give Nunes Intelligence Reports

[wjboyer1]

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[Rockyrd]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/us/politics/devin-nunes-intelligence-reports.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

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All true, and if nothing to hide, why such a colossal attempt at cover up.

Watching Spicer today tip toeing was something to behold.

It's not the act that gets you, it's the coverup.

[Reiver]

Where's the newest Comey/Obama Russian hacker link?

[Rockyrd]

Where's the newest Comey/Obama Russian hacker link?

Please explain

[Rockyrd]

Just breaking....

Mike Flynn will testify in [B]exchange for immunity

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[Rockyrd]

"WASHINGTON — Mike Flynn, President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign’s potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution, according to officials with knowledge of the matter."

Ex-Trump adviser Flynn offers testimony if he gets immunity - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ex-trump-adviser-flynn-offers-testimony-if-he-gets-immunity-2017-03-30)

[ColdNoMore]

All true, and if nothing to hide, why such a colossal attempt at cover up.

Watching Spicer today tip toeing was something to behold.

It's not the act that gets you, it's the coverup.

The coverup is almost always worse than the act.

In this case though, the coverup AND the act (Trump's lie about being 'wiretapped' and all of the other lies he just makes up) is so bizarre and amateurish, as to be comical...if it weren't so damned serious. :oops:

We need to forget the fact that Putin was so scared of Hillary that he pulled out all the stops to keep her from being elected...and concentrate a minute on the clown show in the White House.

If Chump and his peeps are so inept that they just keep stepping in it and making everything they touch turn to $hit...WTH is going on behind the scenes with our country and the rest of the world? :ohdear:

The ramifications of the amateur hour show we are witnessing...is downright scary.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least, if all of a sudden we were involved with a 'conflict/war' somewhere soon...because Trump thinks that might take the spotlight off of him and Putin.

Scary indeed.

[Reiver]

Please explain

The fact that everyone knew about Russian hacking last summer. Well before Trump became the candidate.


Comey wanted to go public with Russia info last summer: report - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/comey-wanted-public-russia-info-summer-report-article-1.3013212)

[Rockyrd]

The fact that everyone knew about Russian hacking last summer. Well before Trump became the candidate.


Comey wanted to go public with Russia info last summer: report - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/comey-wanted-public-russia-info-summer-report-article-1.3013212)

I want to understand what point you make.

Comey came to Obama about the interference. Obama would not go public with that information. Imagine what the Trump campaign would have said about that.

But, then, we knew only about them hacking DNC.

Since then, as the investigation continued, there is now a criminal investigation into ties between Trump campaign and Russia. That was verified during the hearings last week.

So, not sure if your point. Also, since then added to this is Trumps claim if wiretapping. That takes it up a notch.

[Rockyrd]

All of his life, Trump has embraced conspiracy and had no problem publicly stating them. This is just one of the reasons I, personally, am so sensitive to these quirky websites, etc. I have watched Trump for many many years, well before The Apprentice and I really know his style.

This makes sense...the Russians knew they has a fish who would bite.


"Donald Trump’s willingness to embrace Russian disinformation was one of the reasons Russia’s interference in the 2016 election worked, the Senate panel investigating the president’s alleged ties to the country heard on Thursday.

Decades of Russian covert attempts to undermine confidence in western institutions, including planting or promoting false news stories or spreading doubt about the integrity of elections, will accelerate in the future unless the US confronts so-called “active measures”, several experts testified to the Senate intelligence committee."

Russian deception influenced election due to Trump's support, senators hear | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/30/trump-russia-fake-news-senate-intelligence-committee)

[Reiver]

When Trump was just one of 16 candidates, no one cared about the Russians hating Hillary.
It became an issue only when Trump won the election.
Perhaps if Obama and Comey had released the info when they had it, Trump might not have won the primary.

[ColdNoMore]

When Trump was just one of 16 candidates, no one cared about the Russians hating Hillary.
It became an issue only when Trump won the election.
Perhaps if Obama and Comey had released the info when they had it, Trump might not have won the primary.

While Obama probably should have, he would have then been viciously attacked...as trying to manipulate the election.

Comey's action one week before the election, albeit possibly benign in intent...had exactly that effect.

By Obama taking the high road however...America is certainly now traveling the low road. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Reiver]

If ignoring it was the high road, why isn't it ignored now?

[wjboyer1]

When Trump was just one of 16 candidates, no one cared about the Russians hating Hillary.
It became an issue only when Trump won the election.
Perhaps if Obama and Comey had released the info when they had it, Trump might not have won the primary.
Perhaps you did not hear HRC during their debates.....most Trump people did not listen to what she said.....

During the third presidential debate, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump squared off for the final time leading up to Election Day. Ultimately, Donald Trump pulled off an Electoral College win (despite losing the popular vote by millions of ballots), and since his victory, there have been numerous questions about Russian involvement in the election process.

According to the CIA, Russian involvement was deliberately designed to help Donald Trump win.

Hillary Clinton said that very thing while debating Trump for the last time. She accused Russia of helping propel him to victory, and she called on Donald Trump to rebuke Putin and the Russians for their alleged involvement in the 2016 election cycle. Donald Trump refused, and despite multiple reports that the CIA has uncovered credible evidence that Russia manipulated the election, he is still refusing to condemn Russia or even concede that the CIA is — or, at least, could be — correct.

[ColdNoMore]

If ignoring it was the high road, why isn't it ignored now?

Seriously? :oops:

Go back and read my post again, slowly this time (you can move your lips if necessary)...and then tell us how Obama is involved with this investigation. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[rubicon]

Progressive linguistic constructivism, MSM and a spot light three of the tools in a progressive's propaganda utility pack. Meantime they continue in all areas to misbehave in the shadows.

Personal Best Regards:

[ColdNoMore]

Progressive linguistic constructivism, MSM and a spot light three of the tools in a progressive's propaganda utility pack. Meantime they continue in all areas to misbehave in the shadows.

Personal Best Regards:

You've outdone yourself this time. :oops:

Your gibberish doesn't even rise to the already low bar you've previously set...of pseudo-intellectualism. :ohdear:

Good job. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[dave harris]

Progressive linguistic constructivism, MSM and a spot light three of the tools in a progressive's propaganda utility pack. Meantime they continue in all areas to misbehave in the shadows.

Personal Best Regards:

Gibberish

[MDLNB]

While Obama probably should have, he would have then been viciously attacked...as trying to manipulate the election.

Comey's action one week before the election, albeit possibly benign in intent...had exactly that effect.

By Obama taking the high road however...America is certainly now traveling the low road. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:


So Obama took the high road?

SO, if Obama saw a law or treason being perpetrated and did not report it, then he would have-IS an accessory to or after the fact. Obama has therefore committed a crime. If Obama spied on an American, then he broke the law if he used the NSA or the CIA. Only the FBI may "spy" on Americans. Intelligence agencies are restricted by law from spying in America or on Americans.

So, either the information that Obama had on Trump was illegally obtained and non-criminal or illegally obtained criminal which makes Obama culpable in the crime. Either way, Obama may be involved in criminal activity. But, Trump may NOT be involved in anything criminal. No one knows until the information is revealed. IF it can be revealed. The information may be classified and not releasable to the public.

It really doesn't matter because Hillary got away with committing felonies and no one cares in D.C. I imagine that fair play means that if anything untoward involving Trump or his team is found, then he should receive the same professional courtesy. A complete pass like Hillary received for all her felonies. All of them worse than anything Trump could have been involved in BEFORE he was in office.

[Reiver]

Seriously? :oops:

Go back and read my post again, slowly this time (you can move your lips if necessary)...and then tell us how Obama is involved with this investigation. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

FBI Director James Comey wanted to go public (in June or July) with information about alleged Russian attempts to influence the 2016 election but was blocked by the Obama administration, according to a report.

[ColdNoMore]

FBI Director James Comey wanted to go public (in June or July) with information about alleged Russian attempts to influence the 2016 election but was blocked by the Obama administration, according to a report.

What "report?"

Link?

[Reiver]

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[ColdNoMore]

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But many in the room didn’t like the idea, and White House officials thought the announcement should be a coordinated message backed by multiple agencies, the source says. “An op-ed doesn’t have the same stature. It comes from one person.”

A wise decision, perfectly exemplifying the difference between professional adults...and the middle-schoolers running the White House now. :thumbup:




"The house is on fire, Trump is running around with a box of matches, and the GOP demands to know who called the fire department." ... Garry Kasparov

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[Reiver]

"The house is on fire, Trump is running around with a box of matches, and the GOP demands to know who called the fire department." ... Garry Kasparov


The Russian who was the first world chess champion to lose a match to a computer under standard time controls?
You choice of people to quote is, at this time in history, amusing, ironic, boggling, and immaterial.

[ColdNoMore]

The Russian who was the first world chess champion to lose a match to a computer under standard time controls?
You choice of people to quote is, at this time in history, amusing, ironic, boggling, and immaterial.

Your tacit, albeit reluctant, admission that Kasparov's description of the truth is perfect and struck bone...is much appreciated. :thumbup:

Thanks. :ho:



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